Minoso denied, and this better not be the reason why
Like every other Cooperstown snubbing he's suffered, Minnie Minoso took Monday's Golden Era ballot rejection in stride, saying, "Even it hurts on the inside, I will always be smiling on the outside."
But that's part of the problem! At least if I can understand Dan McGrath's point correctly, anyway.
I linked to his column on NYTimes.com on Sunday, where I noted I was thrown off by the end of it. He'd spent the first 85 percent of his column building Minoso's case, but dismissed it with his last sentence because of this:
Bill Veeck owned the Indians when they signed Minoso in ’48. He brought him back to Chicago in 1960, after buying the White Sox, one of several dubious trades that mortgaged the future of the ’59 pennant winners. Veeck loved Minnie, but using him as a prop in some of his stunts, like pinch-hitting him as a 54-year-old (or a 58-year-old) in 1980, no doubt diminishes his ballplayer bona fides.
Can you imagine the fierce warrior Jackie Robinson or the defiantly proud Roberto Clemente going along with such a gag? But that was Minoso, almost childlike in his love for the game.
Cooperstown? I’m not seeing it, and I’m sorry to say it.
I re-read these paragraphs several times in an attempt to fully comprehend this twist, and every pass turned an increasing amount of my confusion into disgust.
Specifically, this part:
Can you imagine the fierce warrior Jackie Robinson or the defiantly proud Roberto Clemente going along with such a gag? But that was Minoso, almost childlike in his love for the game.
Let's list everything that's wrong with this.
No. 1: Where is it stated that one minority ballplayer is required to act like others, besides The Handbook to The 1950s?
No. 2: Jackie Robinson was hired as a draw when he was the GM for the "Brooklyn Dodgers" of the ill-fated Continental Football League, as Larry noted. Willie Mays was a greeter at a casino. Hell, so was Mickey Mantle, if you want to eliminate the race component. Back then, it wasn't unusual for famous players across all skin colors and sports to do unusual things to stay in the limelight after their athletic careers ended.
No. 3: Clemente doesn't have any of these "blemishes" on his legacy, mostly because he died in a plane crash at age 38. It's pretty difficult to compare Minoso's after-career to a guy who never had one.
No. 4: Wait, how did Clemente even get involved? I can just barely understand bringing Robinson into the equation -- pioneer peers and all -- but what's the point of bringing up a player for whom Minoso blazed a trail?
This wouldn't be the first time a comparison to Clemente hasn't benefited Minoso, though. Clemente stands out for being himself and expressing the full range of human emotions when the mostly white press only wanted to see a couple. Throw in his humanitarian efforts -- including the one that claimed his life -- and it's easy to see why his legacy looms large, and why Ozzie Guillen calls him "the Jackie Robinson of Latin baseball."
But when Minoso broke into the majors, he was basically on his own. Clemente used the word "double minority" to describe the black Latino ballplayer, due to color and language barriers. In his biography, Orlando Cepeda recognized Minoso's efforts:
Believe me when I say that Minnie Minoso is to Latin ballplayers what Jackie Robinson is to black ballplayers. As much as I loved Roberto Clemente and cherish his memory, Minnie is the one who made it possible for all of us Latins. Before Roberto Clemente, before Vic Power, before Orlando Cepeda, there was Minnie Minoso. Younger players should know this and offer their thanks. He was the first Latin player to become a superstar.
If you read about the initial discussions between Branch Rickey and Jackie Robinson, the focus isn't on Robinson's ballplaying ability, but rather his ability to handle the massive amount of garbage that would come his way. Minoso faced those challenges. He succeeded immensely, and in the process, he gave the next generation of Latin ballplayers, including Clemente, a strong foundation to improve upon.
Sadly, neither Robinson nor Clemente lived long enough to see Minoso return to the White Sox in 1976 and 1980, although McGrath somehow knows how disappointed they would be. That's a helluva trick.
Minoso's legacy is a rich one. It also has a quirk that should be awesome at best and innocuous at worst. Alas, it can apparently be twisted into some kind of shaming device.
Which reminds me...
No. 5: If I'm reading it right, McGrath is essentially punishing Minoso for liking baseball. This'll teach him.
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Joe Louis was a greeter.
This is racist bullshit. Reminds me of the same subject matter in “A Soldier’s Story”. “We got to get rid of the Step ’n Fetchits.”
Absolute BS. It’s always easy to dismiss the nice guys. Especially dark ones with accents. Furious with this.
Tim Tebow doesn't fight the law, but if he did, the law would surely win. Okay, maybe not.
by winningugly on Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
the man who wrote this garbage heads a high school
If I was a parent of a St. Leo student, I would be calling McGrath’s office asking why he thinks such ignorant bullshit is acceptable to spout in public.
excellent write-up jim
not every trade partner has to be a rape victim. by larry on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 5, 2011 4:11 PM CST reply actions
Couldn't have said it better
Well done, Jim. Rec’d so hard.
Ranting about all sorts of things that are on my mind in 140 characters or less
Everytime I see someone write "childlike love of the game", I'm amazed at how this thinly-veiled racist phrase still perpetuates sports jounralism
by moroots on Dec 5, 2011 4:32 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I *thought* that was a loaded word.
But a few Google searches didn’t turn up a true reference point.
does it need a reference point (e.g. wiki) though?
not every trade partner has to be a rape victim. by larry on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 5, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Not necessarily
I just wasn’t 100 percent positive, and when it comes to these kinds of topics, I’d rather be as certain as possible before using it against him.
McGrath's favorite movie is 'Birth of a Nation'?
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
"house n-word". Served Ernie well enough.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
childlike love of the game is just plain condescending
i don’t know if it’s racist, but … let’s see the pukes who write stuff like that play ball. most of ‘em couldn’t wipe up a big leaguer’s spit.
It just makes me think of Jon Gruden talking about Brett Favre.
by mechanical turk on Dec 5, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
"This guy, this guy right here..."
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
You have to admit, though, he has a point-
Favre really does lead the league in being like a big kid, just having fun out there.
by mechanical turk on Dec 6, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Childlike enthusiasm for the game.
Tim Tebow doesn't fight the law, but if he did, the law would surely win. Okay, maybe not.
Like it was said in the earlier thread
Minoso will get in the Hall after he dies and it won’t get near the public slobbering that Santo got
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Santo stayed in the public eye and had stat heads campaigning for him for years.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
I'm going to be pissed about this vote for a while.
Yes, Santo was a worthy player. But dammit, so’s Minoso. And he’s still fucking alive to enjoy the moment.
But I feel like McGrath represents a lot of people’s opinions. A lot of people’s stupid, stupid opinions.
Dan McGrath, from July 2011, on "the writers’ proper role"
Absent guidelines from the Hall of Fame Board of Directors, voting members of the Baseball Writers Association will make the call on whether three of the most dominant, decorated players in baseball history are Hall of Fame-worthy. That’s a guardian-of-the-game responsibility that seems to go beyond the writers’ proper role. Do they truly know who juiced and who didn’t? Does anyone?
Yes. Bonds juiced. He was breaking homerun records when his career should have been in decline. I guess McGrath missed the publicity surrounding 70+ homeruns. It was more than a couple games.
Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?
His career path actually follows the McGwire jealousy story pretty well.
Being one of the greatest players in baseball but losing the spotlight to a less talented guy who hit more home runs in 1998. Getting injured in 1999 and coming back in 2000, only to have arguably the greatest four-year stretch in baseball history 2001-2004, his age 37-40 seasons.
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
good for santo
but you know, he said having #10 on the pole at Wrigley was his hall of fame. and part of you kinda wishes his next of kin would tell baseball to shove it. Wait till a guy’s dead to honor him? He deserved it 30 years ago.
Minnie’s hall of fame is the White Sox. The schlubs who do the voting can pound sand.
The HOF has become more and more meaningless. And not cuz guys like Perez or Rice got in. It’s because people have confused fame and greatness with certain cumulative stats.
Just because someone wasn’t one of the top 5 all-time greatest at his position doesn’t mean he’s not a hall of famer. And until they start kicking out some people, they ought to have a lot more guys in there.. like Minoso.
Maybe when Frank Thomas gets in he can bring Minnie along, or pull a Marlon Brando on his behalf.
by ruffster on Dec 5, 2011 5:12 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Now I'm worried for Frank
They’re going to hold Un-D-Nyable Entertainment and Big Hurt Beer against him.
I'd be surprised if Frank got in easily
The DH stuff is going to hurt him in the eyes “purists”.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 5, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
frank was a hall of famer after his first 7 seasons and he didn't dh in any of them.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Agreed
I just expect the fact that he DH’d to “diminish” him in the eyes of the voters….
by hitlesswonder on Dec 5, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to see who doesn't vote for a DH, but does vote for a closer.
by Jim Margalus on Dec 5, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
your offense is only good as your bullpen
not every trade partner has to be a rape victim. by larry on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 6, 2011 7:23 AM CST up reply actions
Yep (HOF point).
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
I think HOF criticism is one of those areas where baseball gets flak just because it's baseball
I’m sure there have been some fringy choices for the Pro Football HOF, but I don’t recall people being bothered by it the way they are about baseball. But in baseball it’s an affront because of whatever mystical public trust people imagine around the game.
The HOF voters rival HOA board members when it comes to entitlement.
Wanna know why “legendary” players did a lot of stupid shit for a buck after they retired?
BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T MAKE ANY MONEY WHILE THEY WERE PLAYING BASEBALL!
The writers view baseball through this haze where baseball players didn’t make money, got jobs during the off-season, or bid competitively for their services. That’s good. But doing things to supplement your income after you retire? That’s bad.
That’s also bullshit.
Minnie did goofy things for Bill Veeck, Willie Mays was banned from baseball for being a casino greeter, great actors from TV’s golden age were guest stars on the Love Boat.
The lesson for you big league players who are on the bubble…spend a couple of decades in the booth. Ron Santo may have played the role of addled ex-jock on the air, but he was a savvy businessman in real life…and he knew that the power of WGN TV and Radio were a tremendous asset.
As for Minnie…Cooperstown would be nice. But he had a long-line of well wishers at the clubhouse sale on Saturday, and that included fans who are young enough to be his great grandchildren. That’s a pretty good legacy too.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
by 67WMAQ on Dec 5, 2011 5:13 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Mays and the Mick were later reinstated by Peter Uberroth
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What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
Joe DiMaggio sold coffee makers.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
But he was a Yankee during the Greatest Years of Our Lives (TM)
Mickey Mantle was a fall down drunk, and a first-class scumbag. He got the lifetime pass for the same reason.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
I think Joe D got the pass for boinking MM.
Or maybe that’s just me.
;-)
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
If that's a criterion
Shouldn’t Bill Melton be in the Hall for his “time” with Barbara Eden?
That is, if WU’s stories from White Sox fantasy camp are to be believed….
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
MM was a goddess. Barbara Eden only played a genie on tv. Now if you want to talk Xena...
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
You still employed? I heard they made some changes.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
They changed the call letters. It's a bad day to be a W or an N
I’m fine.
My daypart is doing pretty well. We’re picking up audience with no outside promotion. We can isolate the ratings by day and hour. We’ve come close to ’BBM several times…and we outdrew them several times during the Thanksgiving weekend.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
Cool. For you personally.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Thanks!
They are small steps. But it’s a sign that people are starting to realize we exist. The ads start in a couple of weeks.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
I tried it a couple of times and never went back. Not enough you to make up for the rest.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
yeah, im not in the car at that time of day
i know mrs. e-g has it in her rotation on both commutes though.
I DON’T KNOW I GOT IT FROM MY NEE-NAW WHEN I WAS BUT FIVE
I'll admit...the first six weeks were horrible
I don’t blame you. They hired a bunch of experienced news/talk people and asked us to be Oprah. Turns out only Oprah can be Oprah.
Did a complete course correction around October 1st.
Now it’s a lot like the old WMAQ.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
I'll try again. Thx.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
not to mention all the "fantasy camps" these guys go to annually
my preacher threw out Lou Brock at the Card camp last year… on a grounder to 2nd.
Hey Jim— maybe we should make a list of all the stuff HOF’ers have done for a few bucks after they retired. Got a good start on it in this thread.
burn it down
Hall of fame that is, they tried to set one up here for football and no one gives a shit about it, that’s because we can appreciate what players have done in the past without giving them some arbitrary award.
by hoodlight on Dec 5, 2011 5:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I dunno.
Kinda on the fence about that. The guys I grew up seeing don’t need to be HOF members for me to know they were great. But the guys I never got to see? Without the HOF, all I have to go on are leaderboard stats from fangraphs, baseball-reference, etc. I think it’d be cool to go to Cooperstown someday.
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 5, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Tough to explain HOF to people here.
Because no such thing exists. I think Cooperstown is a great historical keeper of the game (without which, Jim couldn’t write his fine articles about past Sox players.). However the the HOF idea can get carried away (Rock-n-Roll HOF, Cowgirl HOF, many more I don’t care to mention.). While these can be trivial, the Baseball HOF seems more like a historical museum for me. And if you think of it that way, then more good players should get in. In other words, HOF voters are a bunch of turds for waiting so long for Santo and eventually Minoso.
by ParisSox on Dec 6, 2011 12:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, it's the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum.
It’d probably be better to switch the order, because the museum is really the more crucial part.
That said, upstate NY is the king of HOFs. Within two hours’ drive of me, we have: Baseball, basketball, boxing, dance, horse racing, harness racing, professional wrestling and US soccer. Might be more.
by Jim Margalus on Dec 6, 2011 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
National Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame
is one I remember from driving on the Kennedy (I-90?) out to the burbs. It’s in Arlington Heights I think.
I'm fascinated by this idea
so many questions ..
Horse racing and harness racing are separate HOFs?
Dance – All dance types? Have they progressed to include “hip-hop”?
Professional Wrestling – which kind?
US Soccer – Alexi Lalas?
Dmcgrath@chicagonewscoop.org. (if you want to ask him to explain himself.
Dan McGrath brings three decades of journalism experience to the Chicago News Cooperative, including more than 12 years as sports editor, associate managing editor and senior writer for the Chicago Tribune. Before joining the Tribune, Dan worked for newspapers in Freeport, Ill.; Reno, Nev.; Sacramento, Calif.; San Francisco; Philadelphia; and New York. While he has worked most of his career in sports, he also has been a media critic, national correspondent, metro columnist and book reviewer. Sports sections that he has edited have won more than a dozen top-10 awards from the Associated Press Sports Editors Association. He was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for spot news coverage in 1992 and for commentary in 1993. A Chicago native, he is the co-author or editor of five books on the city’s sports teams, including the best-selling “Out of the Blue” on the 2003 Chicago Cubs.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Btw, emailed Dan to point him to this thread. Even if he doesn't post here, he can certainly find Jim's email addy.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Quick question:
I know I’m old and feeble so may have missed the answer:
Santo clearly deserved the vote. Is it that clear that Minnie did? Besides the pioneer aspect?
I think Bill James ranked Santo as 6th best 3B ever. Where did Minnie rank? Is the “slight” as egregious?
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Btw, Minnie was my favorite player when I was a kid. But still asking...
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
As part of the campaign the Sox had a great statistical look at him
Between that and looking at the “appearances on leaderboards” part of his B-R page, I came away feeling like he’d have to be on the short list for best non-Mantle player in the AL in the 50s. Which has to count for something.
Here:
Bill James’s assessment
In The New Bill James Historical Abstract (The Free Press, 2000), James, the leading pioneer of baseball analytics, ranks Minoso as the 10th greatest left fielder of all time, ahead of Hall of Famers Billy Williams (11th), Ed Delahanty (12th), Joe Medwick (13th), Jesse Burkett (14th), Lou Brock (15th), Goose Goslin (16th), Ralph Kiner (18th), Fred Clarke (22nd), Zack Wheat (23rd), Jim Rice (27th), Joe Kelley (28th) and Heinie Manush (30th)
James rates Minoso as the 91st best player of all time, writing:
“Minoso didn’t get to play in the Majors until he was 28 years old, but had a better career after 28 than almost any Hall of Fame left/right fielder. He had a .389 on-base percentage — better than any of the other outfielders in this part of the rankings except Paul Waner (better than [Tim] Raines, Clemente, Al Simmons, [Willie] Stargell, [Al] Kaline, Ken Griffey Jr. For that matter, better than Willie Mays or Henry Aaron). Minoso hit for power, drove in 100 runs like clockwork, was a Gold Glove outfielder and one of the best baserunners of his time. Rate that group of outfielders in terms of power, defense, baserunning, batting average etc. and I think you’ll see that Minoso more than holds his own. He led his league at various times in hits, doubles, triples, total bases, hit by pitch (in which he led ten times), sacrifice flies, stolen bases, stolen base percentage, on-base percentage, and slugging percentage. He never won a batting title, but was second in hitting twice, in the top five, five times. He was a hustling, aggressive player, immensely popular with fans in both Cleveland and Chicago. Had he gotten to play when he was 21 years old, I think he’d probably be rated among the top 30 players of all time.”
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 5, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
So yeah, I'd say he's a Hall of Famer.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
I recall Jim's friend Neyer saying "Hall of Very Good", but James assessment is fine.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
But wait!
So in the absence of real support for guys like Buzzie Bavasi (who’s on the ballot) and Bill James (who was not), I suspect our energies might best be applied to Miñoso. I’ve gone back and forth on him over the years, and just this fall I concluded that he fell just a bit short. But lately a lot of smart people have been writing about Minnie, and now I’m back on the other side. If you believe that baseball’s color line cost him two or three (or more) seasons in the majors, he’s got a great case. If you believe that his efforts allowed a number of Cuban players to play in the majors in the 1960s — and argument I’ve seen, though not explored in depth — that’s another marker.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/12/5/2612659/ron-santo-bert-blyleven-hall-of-fame-who-to-support-next
I remembered his fall column conclusion. I guess a guy can change his mind, right?
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Thank you. 10th best LF is good enough for me.
I always thought an arbitrary decade was cherry picking, but this works.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
beat me to it
f that committee
I DON’T KNOW I GOT IT FROM MY NEE-NAW WHEN I WAS BUT FIVE
by e-gus on Dec 5, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
More reading:
Excellent. Bookmarked, thanks.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
thats the literature they gave us at the forum
i dint realize it was online too, I should have linked to it.
I DON’T KNOW I GOT IT FROM MY NEE-NAW WHEN I WAS BUT FIVE
If I was Pete, I'd take the under.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's not Catholic?
Huh.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
my mistake
the ban is for keeps. I thought that calling it a ‘lifetime ban’ meant only for the duration of his life.
No. You can't gamble on baseball. Period.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
putting someone in posthumously...
I just don’t like it. Vote the guy in when he’s alive. If you don’t vote him in when he’s alive, and you vote him in when he’s dead, are you really able to honor him? It’s not like giving someone the congressional medal of honor posthumously. The man was eligible for years and you didn’t vote him in. He’s the same guy, same stats 20, 30, 40, 50 years later.
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 5, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
If nothing else, it's good for the family.
Being a Hall of Famer adds value to that player’s estate.
But for the people involved, it’s still mostly disheartening.
It's always better to vote someone in (even posthumously) than never
but seriously, I don’t get all the bullshit.
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 5, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
As a collective, especially entitled ones
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
That's just BS
Are explicit expletives (as opposed to acronyms) allowed on the blog anymore? Because that piece of trash masquerading as writing by McGrath calls for it. It reeks of that smug “guardian of the game crap” with a twist willful ignorance.
Minnie is a Hall of Famer to anyone with any sense.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 5, 2011 8:07 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Kenwo
Francona has signed with ESPN for next season. I think that is a wash on our bet?
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
He doesn't pay anyway.
At least you don’t owe anything.
Tim Tebow doesn't fight the law, but if he did, the law would surely win. Okay, maybe not.
Cowleys latest article has a logical inconsistancy
Normally I would comment on him but in his article he says ozzie was sentenced florida by the white sox but then quotes Ozzie (still perpetuating the lie) that he was a free agent and could have gone anywhere. I picture Ozzie and Cowley in a Dallas hotel room, drunk, developing this article. I regret feeling compelled to comment on this and win’t give a link, you know where to find it.
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
Yawn
I expected responses like this. I know
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
Cowley and a logical inconsistency?
Nooooooo, never.
Seriously, Rhub… the man is a walking logical inconsistency.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I really don't understand why he thinks that we are infatuated with the marlins.
i never cared for guillen. but i don’t care what the marlins do. i’ve liked the marlins ever since the bartman game. hell even before that. i thought they were cool for having chuck hough pitch the first game in their history. good for them! i like seeing teams step up and make signings.
but cowley and his kids drive me nutsy on twitter. i know i shouldn’t follow them. then, ozzie jr. who i’ve always liked… but is starting to sound like a turd like the rest of them… claims that he will be at sox fest. why?
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Because Cowley himself is infatuated with Ozzie
Cowley has no connections within the White Sox anymore. He has to write about Ozzie and the Marlins. If you have seen his attempts at writing other sports (he even tried to write about the Hawks) you would realize how screwed he is.
Did anyone catch Ozzie on the MLB network last night? It was weird to see him talking about another team, it was weird seeing him and knowing he isn’t the manager of our team. He was dressed very south beachish, no idea if he took his talents down there with him. The guy won us a World Series and I will never forget that. I know you have said you would not be surprised to see him come back in some facet at some point, and I would agree, in his heart he is a White Sox, no matter how hard he is trying to deny it now.
Anyways, unfollowing Cowley was a good decision for me. After his comments about Japan right after quake I just couldn’t take him anymore. I knew he was a huge fucking sociopath dbag, but only a total piece of shit with no soul would make a comment like he made.
It takes a very brave thing to do what Minoso did.
Very few people have the ability to overcome adversity like he faced with a smile on his face. The entire game of baseball is better today because of him.
I am sure many of us have met him, especially those of us who live in the area. I have an autographed helmet in my room right now. I am actually thinking of giving it to my soon to be born niece/nephew.
Does your helmet look like this?
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Tim Tebow doesn't fight the law, but if he did, the law would surely win. Okay, maybe not.

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