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Sultans of Swing: Looking at the AL Central First Basemen

In this space a mere week ago, I took a look at the men who gallantly stride to and from the dugout three to five times a game, and then spend two to three hours sitting on the bench: our AL Central DHs.  This week, and every other week following, I will slide my attention one rung higher up on the ladder that is the defensive spectrum.  Yes, today we break down the five first sackers we shall be seeing most often.

The White Sox received good production from Paul Konerko last season, with the only negative production coming from the offensive drain Mark Kotsay replacing Kong when he needed a rest.  As any baseball fan would expect, the division's first basemen are a powerful bunch.  The three veterans should hit at least 25 homeruns each (with two easily passing 30), while the two younger hitters have shown power potential in the minors.  The current candidates for each team are Kila Ka`aihue for the Royals, Matt LaPorta for the Indians, Miguel Cabrera for the Tigers, Justin Morneau for the Twins, and Paul Konerko for the White Sox.  Continuing my recent trend, we'll start with the two who can already make vacation plans for early October.

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Kansas City: If you couldn't tell from this comically useless comparison graph, Kila Ka`aihue hasn't received very much playing time despite the fact that he will be entering his age 27 season.  Despite posting OBPs above .390 in the minors since 2008, Kila has been stuck in Omaha while Dayton Moore was busy paying Ross Gload, Mike Jacobs, and Ryan Shealy (the former Colorado Rockies version of Kila Ka`aihue) for worse results.  It finally appears that the Hawaiian will get his chance this year, though it will most likely end with him playing for a different team or back in the minors.  Eric Hosmer is coming to Kansas City soon and projects to be a better hitter over the long run.  If given the full season, Ka`aihue could realistically have an OPS slightly above .800 with 20-25 homeruns.  He'll never be a superstar, but the Royals should have been using him the past two seasons instead of overpaying for trash.

Cleveland: Mark Shapiro really seems to have gotten hosed in the CC Sabathia trade.  Matt LaPorta was the key piece in that deal and he hasn't even come close to turning out as planned.  LaPorta absolutely crushes the ball in the minors, as his 4 stints with wOBAs over .400 show.  The problem is that his power seems to abandon him when he is called up, and like our old friend Josh Fields, he cannot hit fastballs.  It's too early to call him a complete bust since he's still just 26; but unless he figures out how to hit the most common pitch in baseball, the odds aren't in his favor.  Onto the big three.

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Detroit: Now that is a much prettier graph.  Other than his 2008 season (during which he dealt with various personal issues), Miguel Cabrera hasn't been worth less than 5.5 WAR since before the White Sox won their last World Series.  And now that it appears the chances of Cabrera eating and/or drinking himself out of the majors have passed, Detroit has a potential Hall of Famer in their infield.  Simply put, he's a monster.  Since becoming a full-time starter, he has never hit lower than .292.  His OBP has never been lower than .349.  His lowest SLG?  .512.  The scary part is he is only entering his age 28 season, meaning he is just now in his peak power years.  Cabrera will hit around .320 with a homerun total in the upper 30's with a chance at cracking the 40 homer plateau.  His only negative is his poor defense.  Get used to seeing him, he's signed through 2015.

Minnesota: Here is the unfortunate wild card in the division.  Justin Morneau was destroying American League pitching last season, somehow amassing 5.3 WAR in a mere 81 games.  And then the side of his head was introduced to John McDonald's knee.  Morneau hasn't taken batting practice since.  Obviously, it is to our great advantage if Morneau is not ready to start the season or if he comes back a spectre of his former self, but I hope that isn't the case.  That being said, even if he comes back completely healthy, he has no chance in hell of repeating last season's magic.  No power hitter maintains a .385 BABIP.  An OPS in the around .880 with about 30 homeruns seems perfectly reasonable though.  And he has the plus of actually being good defensively.

Chicago: Kenny and Jerry decided to postpone the farewell for at least another three seasons this winter and it seems more likely than ever that the Captain will retire a White Sox.  Whether or not that sentimentality will bite us in the ass or not remains to be seen.  Paulie had a career year last season and it isn't too often that 34 year old players happen to do that.  While it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that he puts up numbers similar to last summer's, it is highly unlikely.  Expect his final numbers to fall in with his career .850ish OPS and 25-33 homeruns.  And while he may lack range, few first basemen are better at scooping up low and short throws than Paul Konerko.

Conclusion: Miguel Cabrera is easily the best first basemen of the five.  Morneau comes in at second, assuming he can play this year.  Paul Konerko's dependability and the fact that the remaining players are unproven at best land him the third spot.  Personally, I like Kila Ka`aihue more than Matt LaPorta.  I simply think he has a better chance of his minor league numbers translating to the bigs, though I will be happy if I never have to type his last name again.  The next time any rival SBN blogger bitches about typing "Mark Buehrle", they deserve to spend the rest of the day typing Kila Ka`aihue in Comic Sans.

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Cabrera is the best without question.

man i wish we could have gotten him a few off seasons ago.

Konerko had an amazing year last year and even got me to put my personal feelings about him aside to enjoy the ride… here is to hoping he remains good and doesn’t crap the bed like in 03 and 08.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

After the 2008 season

I thought Cabrera would be another example of hitters going to Detroit to die (see: Gonzalez, Juan). Sadly, he’s pretty fucking awesome.

"The Sox have a better home record than the Twins, but...we're not at home right now." -DJ

by Joist on Feb 3, 2011 1:47 AM CST up reply actions  

No question about it.

I didn’t say it was logical. Stupid Tigers and their money.

"The Sox have a better home record than the Twins, but...we're not at home right now." -DJ

by Joist on Feb 3, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

and its the Mets.

Hitters go to the Mets to die.

Would that be jack cheese? ~RWShow

by e-gus on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't Danks part of that package?

Danks WAR 2008-2010: 12.4

Cabrera WAR 2008-2010: 14.7

The galling part about that deal was that Kenny had the Marlins on the hook – and then they pulled that catcher/Dontrelle Willis bullcrap that knocked the Sox out of the running.

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by 67WMAQ on Feb 3, 2011 6:54 AM CST up reply actions  

yah i remember they wanted us to take willis- which is great that we didn't do that.

but i woulda went danks for cabrera no questions. heck they could take the other danks too :)

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Miggy is the only non-Sox AL Central player I root for.

He’s one of those guys whose ABs you just stop to watch. Would have killed to have gotten him in ’07. FTM.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 3, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Always been a fan of Miggs.

Agree he’s one of those right hand hitters (Big Frank, Manny, Both-Alberts) that I stop what I’m doing to watch him swing the bat.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Ka'aihue's career AAA line of .286/.425/.522

only translates to .238/.350/.415 per Minor League Splits

pretty crazy. that’s still like a .350 wOBA. comes to a nearly average player if he’s an average defender at first. fwiw, ZiPS has him at .244/.355/.412, so MiLS isn’t the only one.

Matt LaPorta actually comes out very similarly, with a .263/.331/.448, though he’s had 600+ terrible major league PA compared to Ka’aihue’s 200+.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:03 AM CST reply actions  

i remember seeing him when he first came up... 2 or 3 years ago...

the dude takes a monster cut. i liked watching him swing the bat.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 2:50 AM CST up reply actions  

he looked too small to me

like Ryan Garko 2.0

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

So who fell in love with him, and why?

I have in my head that he was hyped like Dunston with the Scrubs and has delieverd nothing close to even Dunston’s actual numbers. Why do you who like the signing like the signing?

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Why do you who like the signing like the signing?

you bet.

he was a guy ranked about #25 or #30 on prospect lists. i wouldn’t call that particularly hyped but obviously he was well regarded. and that was because he raked in the minors.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

TY.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

check out his minor league numbers

i think most people (myself included) forget just how hard it is to make it in the big leagues, even if you rake in the minors. that’s why doing it at a young age and playing defense is important. gotta have room to grow.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, TY.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I think LaPorta is going to have a good year.

I recall seeing him toward the end of last year. Looked like he was finally getting a clue at the plate. He still plays for Cleveland, so it’ll be a grind.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 6:44 AM CST up reply actions  

no offense

but your eyes may have deceived you

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Must’ve caught a one or two game snippet. Those numbers are awful.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

it's just hard to keep faith in him at this point

at least Kila still has a legit chance to be league average

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I love the splits by "games team won"

In 49 games he played when the Indians won, he OPSed .936.
In 61 games he played when the Indians lost, he OPSed .434.

.434. OPS.

That’s amazing. I don’t know/think this stat means anything tangible, but it’s still hilarious.

by Pander on Feb 3, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

that's a bit on the drastic side, but most all players have big splits between games won and lost.

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by MarketMaker on Feb 5, 2011 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Cabrera

I still think Miguel has a good chance of him eating into a less than stellar performer. He also will take some chances with performance enhancing stuff a la Manny. Just a couple of predictions.

by soxfan50 on Feb 3, 2011 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

well at least your first prediction has some sort of factual basis

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by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cabrera

I still think Miguel has a good chance of being on a routine expedition and meeting the greatest earthquake ever known, and being plunged a thousand feet below to the land of the lost. He also will be on a three hour tour aboard a tiny ship and be stranded on a desert isle. Just a couple of predictions.

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by mechanical turk on Feb 3, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

why would he take performance enhancers?

i’m actually interested in hearing what your thought process is.

by craigws on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

the same reason jeff bagwell did

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

clearly

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

"I’m still working out. I’m still in shape. I’m still motivated," Dye said. "If nobody wants to put me on a team, I can’t do much about that. But I’m not going to go for a minor-league contract.

"The thing I don’t get is, I’m not even a bad guy. I thought I had a good reputation in baseball."

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jermaine-dye-talking-retirement-020211

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

It is kinda sad.

He obviously had a terrible terrible TERRIBLE 2nd half 09, but I think the fact he’s been out of baseball for a full year now is a bit mind-boggling. He’s done some of the damage himself for sure, setting unrealistic conditions for his signing like no DHing and no MiLB contracts, but I’m having a hard time believing no team has thought “I bet Dye could help us”.

Kinda sad. He was great for us.

by Pander on Feb 3, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

he had major league contract offers last season and refused them.

there isn’t anyone who is going to offer a 37 year old who didn’t play last season a major league contract.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

this

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Feb 3, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Pride got in his way.. he could have a job right now if he wanted one.

Freddy Garcia is younger, a more valuable commodity and had a pretty good season last year and yet he took a minor league deal.

If Dye’s made enough money in his career that he doesn’t feel the need to play on other people’s terms, then that’s his choice. I don’t feel bad for him.

by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

i do.

mark kotsay just got a major league job, for fucks sake.

by SARS on Feb 3, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.. that is some bullshit.

But Dye was apparently offered major league jobs last year, I believe by that team that just signed Kotsay actually.

by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't mind him being picky and stubborn about the job he'd take. guy has $75M in career earnings.

that’s plenty of cash to do or not do whatever the hell you want.
just sucks that he’s complaining about not being given what he wanted.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Feb 5, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Good assessment.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially with that sig.

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by Jim Margalus on Feb 5, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Wish we could pick him up cheap...

TCQ insurance.

We have no answers in the minors for this season if Carlos can’t keep it together, do we?

by Pander on Feb 3, 2011 10:19 AM CST reply actions  

mark teahen.

he’s better than dye. he’s better than what the vast majority of teams have in the minors.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

mark teahen has never been or will never be better than dye.

i don’t know what you have against the dude but he was a pretty solid player on the sox for about 4 years.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

dye hasn't played in over a year

and the last half season of baseball we saw out of him was worse than mark teahen’s

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

it was one half of baseball

maybe he just struggled mightily that half. If we were going on guys that suck for half a year konerko would’ve been off the hall of fame ballot in 2009.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

struggled mightily is an understatement

the difference between the two is jermaine dye did that as a 35 year old right fielder who refused to accept that he can’t play in the outfield anymore and wouldn’t take a paycut or position change.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

i never brought money into the equation. obviously he was very unrealistic

in his demands/approach to last offseason. All that being said, if he did play last year he would have had a better year than teahen. no doubt about it.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

doesn't really matter what would have happened.

37 year old who didn’t play last year and is not exactly hungry to play this year. that doesn’t sound like a recipe for success to me.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

look at the first half of 2009. he should have been an all star that year.

i highly doubt he fell off from All Star to Done that quickly. His business sense and his hunger have to be questioned but i think he’d still produce at the plate. He for damn sure would have been better than mark kotsay

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

"Was".

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd hate for that crap to end Justin's career

even for the enemy. At the same time I agree no way he hell he comes close to that production rate again.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 10:23 AM CST reply actions  

I'd be fine never seeing Justin Morneau play baseball again for anyone, but I'm a bad person.

I’ll never forgive him for the ‘anyone but Chicago’ quote a few years ago.

Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 3, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I love that quote

I hate fake ass love.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep.. at least he's genuine about it.

And it also makes my hatred of the Twins seem more rational.

by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Remember the Indian

who said he threw up on opening day 2006? He was disgusted by the WS celebration. Who was that?

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

uh, who was that?? sizemore, pronk?

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Feb 3, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe it was Pronk

seems to ring a bell.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

It was Pronk

Joke’s on him.

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by 67WMAQ on Feb 3, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Because he's a good guy,

I’d rather he have an off-year, have the Twins trade him for another crappy NL closer, and then resume his ass-kicking ways.

"The Sox have a better home record than the Twins, but...we're not at home right now." -DJ

by Joist on Feb 3, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

worst case scenario

Konerko’s offensive stats drop well below his career norms… would management even consider a Plan B at 1B?

If management does consider a Plan B at 1B, what is it?
Dunn? Teahen? The Cuban Tank?

Let’s hope Plan B doesn’t happen within the next three years but, what if it does?

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by greenlight on Feb 3, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

Tank.

He’d be a serviceable 1B/DH for some other MLB teams.

"The Sox have a better home record than the Twins, but...we're not at home right now." -DJ

by Joist on Feb 3, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Konerko's been the most consistent producer we've had on this team (outside of AJ and maybe Buehrle)

Short of injury, I think he’s a lock to be good enough to be our 1B.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

True, but he's got a much smaller sample size, too.

Look at that graph up there. In the past 11 seasons, Konerko’s had only 1 bad season and 1 amazing season. The rest have been pretty much in line (2008 wasn’t even that terrible)

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

And explained by (for him) a freak injury.

Konerko will be fine. 280(ish) and 25ish home runs.

Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 3, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

KEY-A (Kila) Ky-uh-HOO-A (Ka'aihue)

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I want to see Hawk say that

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Does anyone know the extent of Morneau's concussion history?

All I’ve heard is that he has had issues in the past, without much specifics. For him to still be experiencing after-effects at this stage, to the point where he can’t even take batting practice suggests he’s had a few.

Bright past, checkered future

by WSO on Feb 3, 2011 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

I had heard it was hockey-related

I guess the heart of my question is:

Is Morneau uniquely beaten to hell, and that’s why he’s missing months and months of time, or is this really the proper level of precaution for someone who has had a few concussions (3-5ish), and NFL players being allowed to return just a few weeks later is extremely insane?

I’ve had two concussions and I can’t recall being ill for more than a day or two afterward

Wait….“can’t recall”…OH GOD WHAT YEAR IS IT?!?!

Bright past, checkered future

by WSO on Feb 3, 2011 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

Sigh...reply fail

Bright past, checkered future

by WSO on Feb 3, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

well shit, look at what happened to his old teammate corey koskie

got hurt in early july 2006, never felt healthy enough to ever play again

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

scary shit these brain injuries

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

this

plus I have an unfounded theory that baseball is more of a finesse and strategy sport and a concussion is more damaging to baseball skills then football, where all you have to do is knock the other guy over

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I would be inclined to buy into that theory

But the reports I heard made it sound like it Morneau couldn’t exercise without headaches and dizziness, I don’t know if he gets cleared to go to a curling rink with Mauer with those symptoms

Bright past, checkered future

by WSO on Feb 3, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait

Are we talking about, a few weeks later, it’s harder to get your timing back

Or

Presently concussed, as in “I just got hit three minutes ago, I’m hearing dead relatives speaking in my ear, but I think I can play”.

Because yes to the former, the latter…not so much

Bright past, checkered future

by WSO on Feb 3, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Lastings Milledge is finally in the plans

Minor-league NRI.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Feb 3, 2011 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

KW always gets his man.

Seems like he was pretty serviceable last year, surprised he couldn’t find a spot on a team like the Royals or Pirates.

What are the odds he takes the job over De Aza / Lillibridge?

by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

really?

guy can’t play center and his career batting line is rooough.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

his advantage is that he's right-handed.

you mention his defensive disadvantage. he’s also useless on the basepaths.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

2/3 of our OF is RH

and there’s like 2.5 times the right handed SPs in the league compared to LHSP. is that really an advantage? i want my 4th OF to be LH and able to play center.

i like him as an insurance piece, but there’s no way he’s breaking ST with the club. right?

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

it’s an advantage when you’re competing for a spot on a bench that currently only has ramon castro as a legitimate right-handed hitter. i’d say de aza has the edge over milledge. this hurts lillibridge more, methinks.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

i guess, but it's still a pretty RH-heavy lineup

not super worried about hitting lefties. i really like Brent, but i was thinking De Aza had a leg up on him.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

true, but i side with de aza

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

de aza is an injury guy too though.

at least milledge is another option.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

it's definitely a good signing

gotta like the depth there. if Q goes in the crapper or ends up hurt, Milledge/Teahen is a nice platoon.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I just puked in my mouth

Then that Ray Lamontagne song came on the radio- ‘Trouble’

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2011 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

which would be why you would use de aza until he got hurt

and then you can call up milledge from the minors. milledge doesn’t have to pass through waivers if he doesn’t make the team. de aza does.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

pretty ideal set up

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

of course.

this assumes that milledge has a contract that doesn’t give him an out. it probably doesn’t, because he’s not really in a position to demand something like that. but you never know. of course, i doubt he could be stashed for more than a few months.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I like De Aza

I think he will take it

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah why not.

I mentioned him in december after his fake gernade, stolen base, brawl day.

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by e-gus on Feb 3, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

the game is afoot.

brent and alejandro should be very concerned.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice signing. He still has all the tools.

"I don't give a flying f**k who you think I look like"

by soxrule!35 on Feb 3, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

to be 4th OF that can only adequately play defense in left field

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by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

so you think he has no upside anymore at 25 years old?

"I don't give a flying f**k who you think I look like"

by soxrule!35 on Feb 3, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

that is exactly what i think

there is a reason he had to sign a minor league contract at age 25

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That's cool

I’m more optimistic. Not OMG we should start him, but better than bringing back Jones or Kotsay.

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by soxrule!35 on Feb 3, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

better than kotsay, yes

jones? no.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

little to no defensive value

and bad on the basepaths. if he were to platoon with a left-handed outfielder, he could be useful. juan pierre isn’t going to be platooned.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Quentin/Milledge would be a useful platoon.

Quentin has reverse splits, Milledge’s wOBA vs. LH is notably higher. Milledge would provide better defense when out there. And limiting Quentin’s time a bit might be beneficial in keeping him from hitting the DL again.

by 3E8 on Feb 3, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't buy quentin having reverse splits.

at least to the level he’s shown. i wouldn’t rate milledge markedly better, in any event.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

damn you.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

eh, i'm not sure that will hold up over the course of Quentin's career

it’s 500 PA and his BABIP is below .200, his walk rate is much higher and his ISO is about what it is against RHP.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Milledge / Teahen platoon might work

In the event of a Quentin trade or extended DL trip.

More than anything this move seems to buy Viciedo time to develop further.

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by big_fun on Feb 3, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

for who?

that teahen thing is….

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS DON'T ASK ME!!!!!!!!! ONE IN A MILLION!

by pierzynskirules on Feb 3, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Teahen is not bad against righties

Did some back-of-the-envelope math and figured a Milledge/Teahen platoon would OPS something like .750, which is pretty close to league average. Not a contending team’s first choice, but could be the best internal option the team would have if Quentin went down.

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by big_fun on Feb 3, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

word.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

okay i'll give you that

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS DON'T ASK ME!!!!!!!!! ONE IN A MILLION!

by pierzynskirules on Feb 3, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

and only hit left-handers.

his only potential skill at this point is hitting.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

And a guy for Q! to tag in his corner after the 30th HBP

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2011 5:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like it also

Folks seemed to have a predicted the death of Jones just 1 year ago. This is easily a pretty decent low risk move. High reward? Maybe not but he wouldn’t be the first 25 year old to actually do something even with so many previous abs.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know...change of scenery, maturity, who knows...like you said "low risk"

I’m not saying he is a future All-Star but lets see what he’s got. 1700 AB’s yeah…but was he rushed? Maybe the game slows down for him.

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by Rhubarb on Feb 3, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Also so he's not exactly slow

So speed is a skill that he still currently owns. Unless he has an impairment or just doesnt want to you can become a better base runner. Im not saying he will but certainly its possible.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't get where all this optimisim is coming from for all the people on here

the guy is a 4th OF at best

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay should we have pessimism for him instead?

I think we all know the guys short comings. The guy has a career OPS of .723
He’s 25. We have Juan freaking Pierre in LF. Its not like we are stacked. I don’t know what this guy will do but like I said, last year Jones was buried on this site.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

wern't you the one who thought Jones would have a comeback year at DH?

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by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

yes I did.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i usually subscribe to the tdogg optimistic point of view

but im not holding my breath for this guy to break the starting lineup

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Im not suggesting he will

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

pierre at least has two legitimate tools

milledge does not

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't understand this at all

Do you mean skills? Milledge certainly still has more than 2 legitimate tools.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

fine, skills

yeah, milledge is fast. he does nothing with it.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

thats what it sounds like to me. you guys are acting like we gave him 5 million or something. I’m with tdogg on this one. The guy could be useful.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

he's joey gathright

but slower and without the ability to use that speed on defense or to be good on the basepaths.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

lol get the f*ck out of here

Dude OPSed under .600 a couple times and career is .630

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry i'm not bouncing off the walls with exictement

that we signed another 4th outfielder to a minor league deal.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Who the hell is U-god?

Because folks said good pick up? How is this any different then any other minor league deal we say good pick up on?

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

we can't all playa hate with your passion

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

gotta impress the new boss.

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Feb 3, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

he's projected above replacement

and he’s in Charlotte. that’s a pretty good move.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

it's not a bad move

but the thoughts that he can change and become something more useful than a backup when Q gets hurt seems unfounded to me.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

youre nutsy.

he’s better than joey gathright.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

in 14 more career games

gathright has been worth 1.1 more wins

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

well then that whole worth more wins system is fucked

because milledge is a better player than gathright. I am pretty certain i can hit better than gathright.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

no

you can’t

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

KenWo is a multi-tool player.

"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."

by RWShow on Feb 3, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Im pretty sure I freaking could

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

he also made it to the pros

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

metal bat.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

ive hit a few bombs with the wood too.

actually i didn’t find much of a difference between the metal and the wood. my brother could rake with the metal but if you gave him wood he couldn’t hit it out of the infield. i didn’t have that problem.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

There is a huge difference.

You must not have been turning around anyone’s heat.

"One thought driven home is better than three left on base."

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been hitting in the cages with a maple bat recently.

Much closer to the weight and sweet spot of metal than ash bats in my opinion. Tell your bro to give maple a shot if he hasn’t retired.

by 3E8 on Feb 3, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

i used maple a few times.. they are good. just too expensive

if you really want a nice bat- try a bamboo one! the ball flies off of those.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

let me rephrase that sort of.

there is clearly a difference if you don’t square it up. I could hit some bombs with the metal even if it wasn’t squared up. if you didn’t square it up on the wood there is a good chance you’d break the bat.

I was a guy that never struck out and never walked… using a wooden bat actually helped me with my eye (if you break your wooden bat in semi pro leagues you are the one paying for another one- gets pricey after a while)

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

in 2006

he hit one 399 ft in the majors.

hittracker unfortunately doesn’t look into the minors, so i can’t see his one from those days.

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by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

400 feet is not a fucking bomb.

Lilbridge hit one 420 to dead center last year, you twink.

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Feb 3, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

And no matter what, that was cool as shit!

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by South Side Expat on Feb 4, 2011 2:53 AM CST up reply actions  

absolutely.

he crushed the shit out of that ball. If he never makes it back again he has that one moment.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 4, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

if the white sox drop him

someone else will give him a shot.
probably the royals.

by craigws on Feb 4, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I defended Pierre as a known quantity

not that he was freaking irreplaceable. Cmon now.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

there's like a 20 run difference per 150 games

between Pierre and Milledge in defense/baserunning and they have very similar career wOBA. LM is a nice hedge for Quentin/De Aza. you don’t think he should be the 4th OF do you?

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I expect Pierre to remain the starter.

If you are asking who I would rather have De Aza or Milledge for me initially its Milledge. I’d like to see them in the spring though. And no I wouldn’t be floored if the guy made the team and actually played his way into decent playing time by years end.

Of course he could wash out in ST.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

i think their numbers are about a wash

unless Milledge is truly terrible at D, so i’ll take the lefty who can play a good CF.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

2011 Zips for Mills

276 .330 .398

defensive
lf-AV/87 c-FR/121 rf-AV/107

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

De Aza

262 .325 .387

defensive
VG/131 AV/146 VG/131

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

defense takes it!

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

he'll throw in the pinch running for free

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by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

baserunning, too.

not to mention attitude and milledge can be sent to the minors.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I certainly would not have a hissy fit if De Aza won the job.

My own personal preference is Lastings but that easily can change. I think its a good low risk move.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

be honest

you would have a hissy fit.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

I’d have a hissy fit if killibridge won the job or Teabag was the starting 3b.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

that's like 1 win/150 G right?

not too shabby. i was perhaps hating too much.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

his defense and SBs suggest otherwise

or at least that he doesn’t know how to use it.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

suggest what?

That he doesn’t have any speed? You know the answer to that.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

he's bad on the basepaths.

he’ll be 26. meaning his “speed” has probably peaked already. expecting him to get noticeably better is not the place you should be banking on improvement.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

His speed is a skill he owns is all I said.

Will he become a better baserunner? I’m not arguing that. But that isnt something that is drastically impossible. Slow ass runners? Yeah that’s a wrap.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

no. speed is a tool he has.

if it were a skill, it would actually translate into something – good defense, good stolen base percentage, good at taking an extra base. he doesn’t do have any of that.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Apologies

I agree. Our differences is in terminology as I look thru a fantasy prism.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

baseball IQ.

that’s the skill he’s missing.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't argue there

I just find it laughable that there was an attitude of like this has no possibility of happening. The guy still has some raw tools, some experience and is not 27 yet. Superstar dreams are over. Average MLB player? Im not ready to call that one yet.

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

can't see him ever being average.

maybe he’ll learn to hit enough to be useful.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

just on the maturity point.

he kind of incited a fight in the venezuelan winter league in december. but, of course, he’ll be 26. still has room to put it all together in the maturity skill.

by larry on Feb 3, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't know that but I don't see any further attitude regression, it can only be up from here

His attitude may be able to get above replacement level, especially with Ozzie as his manager…(I threw that last one in there just to incite a riot)

Two rights make one wrong

by Rhubarb on Feb 3, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

what? we dont have one already?

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Alexei's contract
White Sox make Ramirez deal official. He will receive $5 million in 2012, $7 million in 2013, $9.5 million in 2014 and $10 million in 2015

http://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/33229576473673728

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Feb 3, 2011 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

Even with the backloading he should have surplus value in those last two years.

Yeah, it’s a payraise, but it’s still cheap.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Reply fail

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah that's nice.

though i can see knoxfire’s point more clearly now. but even with very little inflation, he’ll only have to be worth like 3 wins over those 2 would be FA years.

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

good news for Freddy

Pettitte announces retirement

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by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

I assume it's because

the prospect of competing with Freddy for a rotation spot left him intimidated to the point of crippling panic-attacks.

Bright past, checkered future

by WSO on Feb 3, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Bad news for the Yanks

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by Tdogg on Feb 3, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

very bad news for the yanks

that rotation is looking really bad

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Feb 3, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Until he's back in August.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Feb 3, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

ANDY PETTITE IS IN HANK'S BOX

AND ANDY PETTITE IS COMING BACK!!

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 3, 2011 1:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If I hear one more goddamned yankees fan try to say that they have a top rotation this year

I am going to punch a yankees fan

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

severely tempted to flag

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC

by blackoutsox on Feb 3, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who clicked the fake play button like 5 times?

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 23 Oct 2005. Yes, I have had the date wrong for this long.

by mikecws91 on Feb 3, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

Would that be jack cheese? ~RWShow

by e-gus on Feb 3, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Omar Blastings de Millibridgehen*

*Fixed.

The most fearsome DHydra yet: Omar Vizquel, Mark Teahen, Lastings Milledge, Brent Lillibridge, and Alejandro de Aza.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

that's actually my nom de plume

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by colintj on Feb 3, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure beats Colin _______, that's for sure.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 3, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Blastings Millibridge. Awesome.

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 23 Oct 2005. Yes, I have had the date wrong for this long.

by mikecws91 on Feb 3, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

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