The Marquez Redemption is under way
Maybe Jake Peavy's injury has overshadowed it, maybe it's the lack of compelling competition, or maybe it's just me, but I'm befuddled by how easily Jeff Marquez has snuck onto the 25-man roster.
In the words of Lee Elia, the layers of surprise are multifold. (Everybody pays attention to the cursing, but I'm most impressed that he found "multifold" in the middle of all those f-bombs.)
For one, I'm surprised it's happened at all. I would've bet on a DFA at the end of the spring. Everything about Marquez says he's the newest Lance Broadway or Jack Egbert - a pseudo-sinkerballer with neither the grounders nor strikeouts to make a difference in the majors, especially in a bullpen. The only difference is that the Sox drafted Broadway and Egbert - they weren't the centerpiece in an underwhelming return package for a very valuable player. The stink of Nick Swisher trade amplifies the scorn.
Moreover, it's startling how quietly Marquez passed through the final pitching cuts. His lack of options certainly helped, because Mike MacDougal and Nick Masset benefited under similar circumstances in previous years.
But options or no options, Marquez actually deserves to be on the roster. That's the weird thing. His spring line is nuts:
| IP | H | R | ER | HR | HBP | BB | K |
| 13.1 | 16 | 7 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 13 |
Sure, it's a small sample, but Marquez hasn't been good in any previous small samples, either. He's been thoroughly unremarkable in every way during his White Sox career, even in terms of health.
Of course, you don't have to look far to find a White Sox reliever who turned in a shockingly good spring, then got spanked in the big leagues. We all remember Randy Williams, right? Not only did he maintain a 0.00 ERA through 13 1/3 innings last spring, but he didn't even walk a batter. Then the season started, and he couldn't throw strikes. Such are the vagaries of spring training stats, but hey - maybe the vagaries of reliever stats won't abandon the Sox this time around.
Right now, I'll give credit to Marquez. He couldn't have picked a better time to look good, and he's looked better than the rest, too. That's a result of the dearth of depth as much as anything, and a thought worth keeping in your back pocket should injury strike.
That's not Marquez's fault. He's taken care of everything he's responsible for, and now he has a chance to improve that 18.00 ERA, and maybe put the Swisher package's cumulative WAR in the black (Marquez, Wilson Betemit and Jhonny Nunez are at -0.7). We're not shooting for the stars here, it could be worse. In fact, it was supposed to be worse.
Speaking of worse, the Sox finally cut ties with Kyle McCulloch, sending him to the Cincinnati Reds for future considerations. I imagine the deal being hammered out like this:
Kenny Williams: "We'll give you McCulloch, but we need something back."
Walt Jocketty: "I'll think about it."
Williams: "You've got yourself a deal!"
The McCulloch trade just about closes the book on the Duane Shaffer era of White Sox drafts. That pick effectively got Shaffer fired - McCulloch was pegged as a poor man's Broadway when the Sox selected him, and that's exactly how it shook out.
Selecting McCulloch in the first round set the tone for a truly abysmal draft. I've mentioned this off-hand before, but of the 50 players selected, only one has even made the big leagues, and he didn't even do it for the Sox.
I'm sure you guessed it right away: Kanekoa Texeira, whom the Sox selected in the 22nd round and later shipped to the Yankees in ... wait for it ... the Nick Swisher trade. At this moment, he's the second-most valuble player in that deal, and now we've come full circle.
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"His lack of options"
Is it out of options or low on options? I’m assuming low since the poll referenced a demotion and a player can’t be demoted if they don’t have options. Are my assumptions correct?
although the word i use most often from the lee elia tirade is "disheartening"
the word i’m most impressed that he fit in the middle of all those f-bombs was “playground”.
also, if you could stop mentioning nick swisher it would be much appreciated in the buehrleman household.
"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona
now that i think about it, the word(s) i use most are the f-bombs
but next most would definitely be disheartening.
"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona
Is 'The Marquez Redemption' anything like 'The Bourne Identity?'
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Mar 24, 2011 8:12 AM CDT reply actions
Not quite.
“Kenny simply didn’t notice. Neither did I. I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a man’s ERA? Jeff pitched to freedom through five hundred innings of shit-smelling foulness I can’t even imagine… or maybe I just don’t want to. Five hundred innings… that’s the length of five Mike MacDougal stints, just shy of half a 2007.”
"We know where your thumb is." - winningugly
by RWShow on Mar 24, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Out of options ????
Can’t teams just fake an injury for a guy, then send him indefinitely to AAA to rehab, isn’t that a way to get around the out of options thing… or do players not go for that sort of thing
If Marquez continued to pitch like he has..
I don’t think the White Sox would have really cared to lose him.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 24, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you read the above article by Jim?
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Mar 24, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I imagine the players wouldn't go for it considering it could depress their value elsewhere
And the league would surely take an issue with it too
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
It would be nice to get anything from that disaster of a trade
but I ain’t holding my breath on that one.
He has pitched well this spring though.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Betemit was something!
If you count 50 PA’s and a .200 clip for hitting. Truly the poor man’s Teahen
by CredesLuvGlove on Mar 24, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I still believe if Kenny had held out a month longer he might have been able to get something more for Swisher...
I don’t know why he was so anxious to get rid of him in a hurry…. I mean I know why, but sometimes you have to do things from a business perspective like it or not. And if holding out for a bit longer gets you a slightly better return then you should do it.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 24, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He gets the other side so allow me to spread him a bit of love
The timetable for Peavy originally was thought to be a June or May return to the rotation, until Peavy had other ideas.
His intense offseason work program and focus put him months ahead of schedule, and it showed as Peavy steadily climbed in pitch count and effectiveness from Cactus league start to start.
You know what the guy takes a lot of shit. Most of it brought on himself and talking too much. We have high and currently unmet expectations from the trade. I do however appreciate the fact he knows he’s paid a lot of money and worked his ass off to get back.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Agreed.
He might be stubborn to a fault, but at least he gives a damn and isn’t sitting on his ass waiting to find out if the team is in it or not come July.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 24, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Zzzzzzz.
“Know thyself.” He needs to learn his body and not let his emotions override the rest. A bull in a China shop has great energy but is no help. Unless you hate China.
Jared Mitchell: GAMBARIMASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by winningugly on Mar 24, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I am aware of people's capacity to change.
Which is why I left the therapy business. He is not one of the 33% who get “self-awareness”.
Jared Mitchell: GAMBARIMASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by winningugly on Mar 24, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If you are referring to the post above,
it states “he needs to”, not that “he does”, or “he will”.
Sell Japan. There. I have now told you to do something.
Jared Mitchell: GAMBARIMASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by winningugly on Mar 24, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
no. he doesn't "need to". the white sox "need to" keep him on a shorter leash. your comment is pissing into the wind.
This should not surprise you.
It is called “blowing off steam”, as I am tired of hearing about Peavy.
Jared Mitchell: GAMBARIMASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Know thyself"
It’s like you’re letting your emotions override your ability to write posts!
"We know where your thumb is." - winningugly
by RWShow on Mar 24, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
After 46K posts you guys are going to get on me about writing superfluous crap?
Should’ve nipped this in the bud 5 years ago.
Jared Mitchell: GAMBARIMASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, I enjoy them. I'm just amused that larry seems bothered by it.
"We know where your thumb is." - winningugly
larry must have some non-$400/hour billed hours on his hands.
Wasted billable hours makes him cranky.
Jared Mitchell: GAMBARIMASU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my standing on this site really must be diminishing if these posts get me labelled as "bothered" and "cranky"
by larry on Mar 24, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the asian photos were all you had.
you’re a one-trick dead pony.
by craigws on Mar 24, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
that's kinda funny.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow
White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 24, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Pierre lf, Vizquel 2b, Dunn dh, Konerko 1b, Rios cf, Quentin rf, AJ c, Ramirez ss, Morel 3b, Humber p
Fukudome rf, Castro ss, Byrd cf, Ramirez 3b, Pena 1b, Soriano lf, Barney 2b, Hill c, Garza p
excellent write up Jim
I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
When the Swisher trade went down...
My bud called to laugh and tell me that the White Sox just traded Swisher to the Yankees for some scrap and the Columbian coffee guy (his name is Juan Valdez, btw). I’m not sure if he was comparing Valdez to Nunez or Marquez. I laughed and thought he was joking. Playing a trick on me. Then I saw the news, and I was peeved. Now I’m just a little bitter. When I think of the trade, I try to picture the Columbian coffee guy (the only funny part of the trade memory I have) and this usually brings me back from the darkness.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow
White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox
Mr. Valdez

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow
White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 24, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to live somewhere...
where every morning Mr. Valdez is at my window with lana, ready to hand me a hot, just-brewed cup of coffee.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow
White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 24, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That ain't coffee.
"We know where your thumb is." - winningugly
by RWShow on Mar 24, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

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