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A's 7, White Sox 4 (10 innings): Three pitchers lose three-run lead

That's Ozzie Guillen, and he's out of ideas after this one.

With another three-run lead, Guillen went away from Matt Thornton ... until Chris Sale gave up three hits to the two batters he saw, and Jesse Crain walked his first batter to load the bases after the A's narrowed it to 4-2.

Crain struck out Kurt Suzuki (and he still might not have thrown a single strike), but when Bob Geren came at Crain with Ryan Sweeney, Guillen went back to Thornton. It almost worked. Thornton struck out Sweeney, but the next batter, Cliff Pennington, delivered a two-run bloop single to center to send it to extras.

That would be the pattern for Thornton, who also started the 10th by retiring the first batter he faced. Then he walked two batters and delivered the game-winning single. Oakland tacked on two more runs, and left Guillen beside himself after the game.

The lesson, as always: John Danks doesn't know how to win.

Star-divide

Sure, it seems like Danks did nothing wrong. He threw eight innings of one-run ball (a solo shot by Hideki Matsui), and pitched out of the other jam he faced. He walked a batter in each of his final three innings, but he was far more efficient than he had been in his first two starts, and ended up needing just 108 pitches on the day.

He allowed the Sox time to figure out the always-tough Brett Anderson, and they eventually got to him for four runs - with a lot of help from the A's, Anderson included.

Anderson started it. Juan Pierre reached with one out in the fifth when Anderson looked completely frazzled trying to handle a routine tapper back to the mound. He whiffed on it, and Pierre reached. Pierre was picked off by Anderson the first two times he reached, but this time he stayed at home, and it paid dividends. Gordon Beckham drove him home from first on a double to the left-center gap.

Anderson created his own mess the following inning by hitting Carlos Quentin in the shin with a two-strike pitch. Like Beckham, Alex Rios smashed a double; unlike Pierre, Quentin only got to third. After Alexei Ramirez broke his bat on a groundout to third, Ramon Castro chopped another one at Kevin Kouzmanoff.

And so began the burst of a sequence of excellent fundamental baseball. Quentin got a great read of the speed and direction of the chopper and broke immediately towards home. Kouzmanoff backed up behind the bag, and had no angle to try to get Quentin out at home. His throw forced Suzuki to jump, and Quentin slid under the tag attempt for a 2-1 lead.

Rios moved to third on the play, and he came home on a beautiful safety squeeze executed by Brent Morel, who didn't square around until late, and still pushed the bunt perfectly up the first-base line. That gave the Sox a 3-1 lead, and Rios scored again on a Morel hit in the eighth. This time, it was a grounder Kouzmanoff couldn't handle cleanly, and he ended up throwing the ball away.

Notes:

*Pierre committed another error, failing to come up with a ball cleanly and allowing Pennington to stretch a single into a double. Danks pitched around it.

*Morel had a fine defensive day at third, making  a couple tough plays along the line.

Record: 7-5 | Box score | Play-by-play

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I'm sorry, what was Thornton doing pitching into the 10th?

He generally is not good the nexst inning, IIRC, after coughing up the lead.

Bring up Carter!

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2011 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like Peavy did well

Maybe he can bring some help with him

by 815Sox on Apr 13, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't have a problem with any of Ozzie's 9th inning choices,

but leaving Thornton to rot in the 10th was inexcusable.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

who else?

Santos threw two innings last night and we saw the effect that had on Sale.

Would you really have rather seen Tony Pena or Jeff Gray out there in the top of the 10th? I guess Ohman may have done okay, but I understand trying to see if Thornton can get in a rhythm in the top of the 10th. I think they were probably screwed no matter who Guillen went to in the 10th.

by Wayne Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

santos actually threw less pitches than sale last night.

so if sale was an option by the logic of pitch counts, then santos would be too.

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised he went to Sale, too.

Going straight to Thornton or Crain would’ve made more sense, I think.

Especially given how young Sale’s arm is and un-used to pitching on consecutive days.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

sale said he was good to go.

i guess ozzie will be less inclined to trust him on that front in the future.

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree...

I was surprised Sale got the call there. Seemed like a perfect opportunity to get Thornton back on the horse with a three run lead.

by polodude017 on Apr 14, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

fewer.

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

this.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't have been the first time he went to a long man in extras after the closer blows a save.

And how about maybe after the first walk? Or the second? Or the first single? No, he pulls the guy after four reach base. If you can’t try somebody else there, they shouldn’t be on the roster.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it should have been Santos.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

from what I have garnered from other posters, "Santos was not available tonight"

I agree with all your points though. Ozzie left Thornton out to dry, while he is still making adjustments.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh oh.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

remove yourself from the gene pool immediately

its the only way to prevent the spread

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Jim needs to make a certain adjustment.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

you didn't want ozzie to bring in thornton to start the 9th?

i still don’t understand why ozzie started the inning with sale.

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess because of thornton's struggles and wanting to give him an opportunity to work it out before throwing him right back out there.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

so instead of throwing him out there with a three run lead to start the ninth inning

he throws him out there with one out, a two run lead and the bases loaded?

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

To me, the choice between leaving Crain in and bringing in Thornton was a toss-up.

Thornton is still Thornton, and even though Juan Pierre hates him, there was still reason to think he could handle that spot.

At this point, there no longer is.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 14, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

why would you leave crain in?

he looked terrible. he couldn’t throw strikes. suzuki saved him by swinging at garbage.

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because your other option is a guy who had three blown saves recently.

Neither were great options.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 14, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

i guess what i'm saying is the only option that made any sense to me at the time was to bring in thornton to start the ninth.

once ozzie didn’t do that the whole thing was a ham and jam. i don’t have any comments about any moves ozzie made subsequently.

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was speculating as to why he would NOT go to Thornton immediately...

as to why he brought him in after Sale shat the bed and Crain walked and struck out one, I guess because Sweeney is a lefty and he didn’t want Crain pitching to him and Pennington (a switch hitter).

I don’t have a problem with him going to someone other than Thornton in the 9th, but I don’t agree with him going to Sale. Easy to say that now after the mess he made, but given what I said a few posts up, Sale didn’t look the best choice.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

He felt like the lead was big enough that he didn't need to use his "best" reliever.

As the leverage went higher, he brought in the more appropriate people to handle the situation, which they obviously failed to do.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 14, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

how do you know that?

i hadn’t heard ozzie say anything about it.
(i’m not intending to be a jackass. i haven’t watched or read much post game stuff. are you just assuming that was ozzie’s reasoning or did he say that?)

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I definitely don't. I should have phrased that as speculation rather than fact.

That explanation is one that makes sense to me, and why I didn’t take issue with his moves that inning.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 14, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jake Peavy: The new white sox closer!
JK LOL ROFLMAO

by phan8787 on Apr 13, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

idk my bff Jill

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind it actually

It may lower the chances of him being injured again.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

bobby jenks would be 8 million cheaper

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

but, getting saves is better than getting nothing(DL) for all the money we spent on Peavy. If he is 100%, he is a starter for sure.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

im listening to the phillies v nats game on mlb at bat 11 app

because halladay is going for a cg shutout.
he got into a little trouble and they said ‘the big truck is getting up.’

jose contreras is the big truck.
i like that.

UZR: Oh the underwear I’ve seen.

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

sticking with the Doc!!

Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

he got it done too

UZR: Oh the underwear I’ve seen.

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

he really ripped them at the end

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a thought...

and I know work loads need to be monitored, but how ’bout a complete game opportunity after 8 gorgeous innings?

Like I said…just a thought.

Was the Stanley Cup actually a dream? It already seems like a lifetime ago.

by TrickyDickAllen on Apr 13, 2011 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

a little odd that he let Danks go 108 tonight and pulled Buehrle after 99

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is that?

Buehrle has a lot more mileage on his arm. And Ozzie has a pretty good “feel” for his starters. Except Peavy, whom none of us know.

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because of the reason you just said. No real worry about Buehrle breaking down.

And he’s in his walk year. We’re all-in.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will say, are you more concerned with Buehrle pitching 110 pitches or Danks?

And if you’re more concerned with Buehrle, does this fact that he’s proven to be durable and able to pitch 200 innings a year not factor into your thinking? Or are you just hung up on the total mileage?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Total mileage.

Plus, I tend to trust Ozzie more than some on this site re: being able to read his pitchers. Lastly, he’s had a better look at his pen than when MB pitched and surely saw the pen’s innings pitched when considering leaving Danks in for another 9 pitches.

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your second point I can agree with.

I can see him leaving Danks out there a little longer because of the pen’s usage and recent failures. However, if he’d let Buehrle finish the game the other night so much of that might’ve (we’ll never know for sure) been prevented.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

the good news

We’re still ahead of Minnesota and Detroit after all of this mess. We aren’t 2-9 like the Red Sox. Easier to fix a bullpen than a rotation.

Hopefully Santos is the one guy that can pitch as well in the 9th as in other innings. And Thornton can go back to being Thornton if he returns to his familiar role.

If that doesn’t work, move Sale to rotation and make Buehrle the closer. Just kidding…kind of…

by Wayne Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2011 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

couldnt agree more

even though its driving us crazy, the mess ups have them with a good record instead of a crazy good record and as you said, they are ahead of the other favorites for the division.

if cleveland and kc are still right here in two month then we will have some problems.

UZR: Oh the underwear I’ve seen.

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Santos

I still worry that its a little too soon to throw him into the closer role. I was banking on him being that next season, but I feel like he is still a little too green, completely losing control of his pitches at certain stretches. Unfortunately he looks like the best option.

by polodude017 on Apr 14, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie threw a recovering (not so well recovering) alcoholic into the role

in the middle of a pennant race in 2005. You got it or you don’t. Now is an excellent time to find out.

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

excellent

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Apr 14, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Went to the game today,

1. Danks was outstanding
2. If there is such a thing as a defensive slump, Pierre is in one. Though he didn’t seem to be letting it effect him emotionally, as he was joking around with Rios between pitching changes.
3. The crowd today was pathetic, I know its a Wed. day game, but comon! What a beautiful day for a ball game.

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2011 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

it's a wednesday day game in april

against oakland.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Apr 13, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

attendance at the equivalent of this game last season (4/22 against tampa)

18,207. so about 1,700 more. nothing worth worrying about.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Apr 13, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

If our attendance is less than or even equal to last year's

we’re screwed. Kenny will be forced to trade away some of the more expensive players.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

how will Jerry have the money to pay all our guys?

he has repeatedly stated that he is banking on much improved attendance this year.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

he'll let Buehlre and Jackson walk

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok yea

I guess we could just cut losses in the summer

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup, i can support the things i say.

We decided to make a bet that if we put this team together the way we have, that it’ll contend and that people will come out and support it. Otherwise, we are definitely going to lose money. Fortunately over the years we’ve made a little here, we’ve made a little there and we can cover it if we lose.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6093214

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

But yea, We would probably have to cut salary in the summer.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

??

I was agreeing with what blackout said b4 about letting Ejax and Buehrle walk.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course!

have you seen the truck Buehrle drives?

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

You are really fucking good at what you do.

I’m in love! i found a replacement for Freddy!
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 8, 2011

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

O_o

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, he's kind of an entry level troll.

I give him a 2/10 for all the responses, but he hasn’t produced anything interesting or funny yet. Been bored with this guy for a while.

"I'm the Chicago man. I'm vital in Chicago." -Willy Ohman, Act 1

by mechanical turk on Apr 13, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm just going to flag

every clear instance of trolling from here on in.

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i choose to believe that this is the kind of human being

that is produced when you can circle jerk with yourselves.

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by colintj on Apr 14, 2011 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bet they also disagree with this report:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_Chicago-White-Sox_334758.html

Oh hey! You snuck up on me there! I was just making some homemade pudding! It's me, Roger Maris, inventor of the asterisk. Son of a bitch.

by Jim Margalus on Apr 13, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

made a run for the AL West eh?

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

almost doubled in value since 05.

is that standard across the board for mlb teams?

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

White Sox management...

always tries to extort the fan base. 5-6 million tickets are sold each year to watch baseball in Chicago. They always want fans to commit before a game is played. Frankly, I’m tired of the act.

Was the Stanley Cup actually a dream? It already seems like a lifetime ago.

by TrickyDickAllen on Apr 13, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't know if it is fact but heard the

host on 670 Score say the Sox need attendance of 2.5MM this year in order to break even – fwiw.

by metasox on Apr 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard 3 million

and if the brewers can do it, then dammit so can we!

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

actually they’re all ryan braun jerseys now

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like the throwbacks better.

good chance i’ll be sporting the 83 jersey at the methup.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 14, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I live in CA so cannot do this but it would help

if Sox fans would help try to expand the fan base. Drag some friends from Naperville who never go to the city to a game. Let them experience it, maybe they’ll become fans.

by metasox on Apr 13, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahem

I always go to the city for games!

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one has friends in NaperVile.... it is a black hole where no one ever returns from.

I am more than capable of loving the White Sox like no other, while hating the rotting abortion at Wrigley. Hell, I can also fully hate the Twain, Yankees and Red Sox at the same time!

Emotional multitasking. It exists. - RW Show

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 13, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

address

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

address plz,

both of you

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

im actually kinda serious

I want to make sure neither of you are on my street

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

the good doctor

looks like Im safe

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep- my stalking list is full, thanks!

I could slot you in for 2018…

I am more than capable of loving the White Sox like no other, while hating the rotting abortion at Wrigley. Hell, I can also fully hate the Twain, Yankees and Red Sox at the same time!

Emotional multitasking. It exists. - RW Show

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 13, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You gotta get way more efficient with your stalking.

Ask wu for some tips.

I’m in love! i found a replacement for Freddy!
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 8, 2011

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am old school- that's just how I roll.

I am more than capable of loving the White Sox like no other, while hating the rotting abortion at Wrigley. Hell, I can also fully hate the Twain, Yankees and Red Sox at the same time!

Emotional multitasking. It exists. - RW Show

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 13, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Proper SSS etiquette is:

Address, Plz?

I am more than capable of loving the White Sox like no other, while hating the rotting abortion at Wrigley. Hell, I can also fully hate the Twain, Yankees and Red Sox at the same time!

Emotional multitasking. It exists. - RW Show

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 13, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was an article, or maybe a comment, recently about asses in seats versus ticket prices.

Turns out the Sox are more profitable with their low attendance/high prices than the Brewers with the reverse. I think.

If only I wanted to look that piece up.

Rhubarb's car smells like fried chicken.

by Uribe Down on Apr 14, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

just shy of 2.2MM last season

if the team stays competitive throughout the season it shouldn’t be a hard number to reach.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Apr 13, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't someone already...

Post that attendance is up about 10% already? I’d look up the exact quote but I’m on my phone and tired… I know I am so totally “all in”

Well, boys, it's a round ball and a round bat and you got to hit the ball square. ~Joe Schultz, 1969

by zevsenesca on Apr 13, 2011 10:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

you are correct

through the first 4 homegames, about 1,000 increase which resulted in 10 percent

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I rarely find myself agreeing with Ozzie, but he was right there at the end.

When the closers do a good job they get the pat on the back. When they do bad Ozzie gets some of the blame. He gets some of the blame and none of the credit.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Tough shit, he's the manager.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's no wonder these men go batshit crazy.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

boooooo!

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

"This is fucking fantatic." - winningugly

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

THIS

Does he want a fucking pat on the back? A cookie? Ozzie, you’ll get your credit when this team wins the division. In the mean time shut the fuck up and make the lineup. If the worst thing you have to do is try to explain a tough loss to a bunch of pencil neck new reporters then I’ll take your job in a heartbeat. And I sure as fuck wouldn’t have started the 9th inning with Sale, so you aren’t exactly batting 1.000 in the decision making process either. You put your closer (Thornton) in there for the 9th and live with the consequences.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis

by Servant2LordBeckham on Apr 13, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thornton is the closer. Or at least he was around 3:45 pm earlier today.

You can blame Thornton’s pitch location, but if Juan catches the ball in the past two save opportunities it can completely change how the rest of the inning plays out. They both get blame. I’m not rushing Santos into the closers role simply because he’s been solid lately. I read that as Santos is due for a bad outing, and this place will throw a shit fit if he has that bad outing in his first chance as closer.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis

by Servant2LordBeckham on Apr 13, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly,

I would just have a tryout. Give Sale, Crain, and Santos some time as the closer, and whoever performs the best takes the job. I agree that the defense has not helped the situation at all as well. For some reason we seen unprepared for the season every year. Some years defensively, and some years offensively.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't need tryouts. That's what spring training is for.

If they want to go with closer by committee then I’m all for that. If they want to stick with Thornton, then that’s fine too. And hopefully they can get him in there and have a decent lead and not have the defense botch plays behind him. But we don’t need to find out how each of these guys handles the 9th inning and then go “Aha! He’s the guy! And it only took us until June 17th to figure it out!” The time for making the decision on a single closer has come and gone. The regular season is here.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis

by Servant2LordBeckham on Apr 13, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

I guess the closer by committee could be sort of a tryout. If any of them are doing particularly well, then we can always just give him the job. But yea, I only wonder why our coaching staff did not sort all of this out in spring training, they should have gave santos/crain a chance to win the job.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously, why comment if u don't like my posts? Why read them?

I couldn’t care less what u think. At least lordBeckham is capable of having a reasonable conversation and he makes some good points.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Im going to flag that jerk from now on

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously?

Can’t I have a simple conversation with someone on this blog without your crucifixions? Did I offend you in any way with my comments?

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Put down the knife colin. It’s the Internet. ;)

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

wholly inaccurate.

he’s not welsh you know.

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Apr 14, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was talking about craigws

that joke doublebackfired

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

bos agrees with you. craig is the jerk.

if you can’t read the actual words, how will you be able to infer the sarcasm?

by Trooper on Apr 13, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you are going to say stupid things around here,

you should expect to be held to account for them.

the community is pretty well informed and when they aren’t, they are keen to learn (besides mick, but he’s funny). so when a great big slab of stubborn ignorance presents itself, it stands out somewhat.

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, there are some well informed people on this board,

but i would probably not count you among them as they actually give their opinions and thoughts about the team and are willing to discuss them, unlike you.

by SoxfanCT on Apr 13, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

.

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 14, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

wtf?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

incidentally,

you are a wizard of irony.

by craigws on Apr 14, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

not that you would know

having just escaped SBN exile. how is Majorca this time of year?

Original visitors' friend in the Lancaster County area!

by colintj on Apr 14, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

vin scully on the legend's batting stance:

“if he was wearing an 1890 baseball uniform, he’d be perfect”

by craigws on Apr 13, 2011 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

heeh

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's right across from the Red Sox's Triple-A ballpark in Pawtucket.

Free parking if you’re early enough, but that’s the only benefit I got from it.

Oh hey! You snuck up on me there! I was just making some homemade pudding! It's me, Roger Maris, inventor of the asterisk. Son of a bitch.

by Jim Margalus on Apr 13, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean you didn't get any benefit from the assrape?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Unplanned Pregnancy?

I am more than capable of loving the White Sox like no other, while hating the rotting abortion at Wrigley. Hell, I can also fully hate the Twain, Yankees and Red Sox at the same time!

Emotional multitasking. It exists. - RW Show

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 13, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear you can get those tests at Walgreen's

along with pap smears and breast exams.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

ASS; is and will always be the key word here

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Apr 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoosh....

I am more than capable of loving the White Sox like no other, while hating the rotting abortion at Wrigley. Hell, I can also fully hate the Twain, Yankees and Red Sox at the same time!

Emotional multitasking. It exists. - RW Show

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 13, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder what was there before assrape

spring break? not enough s’s

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am shocked this doesn't have about 30 rec's.

This is possibly the funniest sign in the history of Man.

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You would find an assrape joke the funniest thing in the history of Man.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Jenks school has a lot to do with it.

It’s all about highbrow humor with me.

don't worry
you’ve got plenty of time left by the tomb

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. Ian Kennedy. 9 ER in 3 IP.

Keeping pace with our bullpen, it appears.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 13, 2011 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

MISS ME YET?

The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!

by 67WMAQ on Apr 14, 2011 5:30 AM CDT reply actions  

look at those eyebrows! those would be mustaches on anyone else.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit. - RWShow

White Sox Baseball:
We’re so expensive, we force Christians to steal. - blackoutsox

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shocking that he became a fishmonger.

I’m in love! i found a replacement for Freddy!
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 8, 2011

by South Side Expat on Apr 14, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

denny lamp led the 83 white sox in saves with 15

which happens to be 15 more than matt thornton has at this point.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 14, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

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