Reading Room: Six-man rotation gets reinforcements
Because it takes some 3 1/2 hours to play a nine-inning game with 10 total runs in Boston, I ended up getting home at roughly 2:45. Therefore, today's Reading Room will be a rather quick jaunt.
The Six Pack: Do Bruney, Marquez save six? - CSNChicago.com
After using Lucas Harrell as a human shield in Toronto, the Sox rewarded him by demoting him to Charlotte. In his place, they called up fresh meat Jeff Marquez in the event of multiple-inning work. However, they also tacked on roster pork to this transaction, as Brian Bruney joined Marquez on his way to Boston. Dallas McPherson was designated for assignment in order to make room.
The Sox now have a 13-man pitching staff, with six starters and seven relievers, but it's a temporary arrangement. Mark Teahen will need a roster spot when he returns from his rehab stint, so the additional pitcher is merely a way to help get the bulllpen's five-man core back onto a regular rhythm after the 14-inning game in Toronto.
Ozzie Guillen hasn't made up his mind on whether he will stick with six starters, but Phil Humber is no longer the obvious choice for a demotion:
"We will do whatever it is that’s best for the ballclub," Guillen said. "A lot of people point at Humber [but] that’s kind of tough to do that. This kid is throwing the ball well every day he comes out. To make that decision [to bump Humber], it’s hard. We are going to give a couple more games to see how that’s going to work."
A day later, Guillen's anger subsides - ESPN Chicago
It's convoluted to try to figure out exactly how Ozzie Guillen's comments on Sunday weren't about the fans, but he told reporters that the fans are the last people he can blame when the team is playing as poorly as they are (or were?).
If you lash out in every direction, your luck will turn - White Sox Observer
James does a nice job of summing up how the Sox went from being humiliated to stealing a win against one of the American League's best pitchers.
Benched Dunn trying to figure it out - Inside the White Sox
Adam Dunn's worldwide coping tour continues in Boston. There are a couple of interesting new details, like Greg Walker talking to Dunn's previous hitting coaches to figure out if he has altered his mechanics. Apparently, that's not the case.
Mike Colbern, other players find peace with MLB's decision
I'd mentioned this a few days ago: Before Brent Morel drew his first walk of the season on Monday, he had already broken Mike Colbern's record of the most walkless plate appearances to start a season.
As it just so happened, Colbern was in the news. He was one of approximately 900 short-term major leaguers who received a payment from Major League Baseball to fill in a gap of pensionless players who received no restitution in any form. Colbern's story in particular is a sad one.
He has lived off social security and disability for the past three years and is grateful for the help from the Baseball Assistance Team, an organization that support members of baseball's family that have fallen on hard times. Twice he was homeless, so he lived out of his truck and slept near a Circle K in Tempe.
"The asphalt wasn't too hard," he said.
He takes 22 pills a day, some for the bipolar illness he was diagnosed with in 1997. He suffers mostly from the manic side, and sometimes in conversations he'll go a hundred directions. He has great self-awareness of this trait, though, and can be quite self-deprecating about it.
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No more Struts
Much has happened since the extra inning disappointment on Saturday. It would seem Ozzie has kicked his patented “big mouth” diversionary tactic into full gear.
At what point does Ozzie decide that AD is ready to come off the bench? How can a manager know that a struggling player has got his head on straight? I suppose that’s why Ozzie gets the big $$$.
NISFW (now it's safe for work!)
At what point does Ozzie decide that AD is ready to come off the bench?
Just a guess, but the next righty starter?
And that Colburn story is a sad one. Jeez.
Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease
Though understandable I guess. I couldn't even spell his name correctly.
Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease
I think he was just benched b/c of his horrendous lefty splits.
It’s not so much a punishment. More of a “strategic move”. Chiburb is right, he’ll prolly be back tonight against Aceves.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
This means I can snag a sweet game-worn McPHerson jersey for $25 later this summer!
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Pretty obvious Danks needs to be skipped a turn
He needs a few days off down to costa rica, a slump buster or two before he leaves town, and upon his arrival back in the states he needs a three show tour with Phish to open his mind. Then back to the rotation. I guarantee he won’t be leaving pitches up after that week.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on May 31, 2011 7:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sounds good, but
Danks is instead scheduled to start Sunday against the Tigers who have an A.L. best 12 – 4 mark against Lefty starters, and then for dessert he should get a start against the A’s who have the second best mark in the A.L. against Lefties at 10 – 5.
As for the slump buster, any chance Edwin Jackson could make that trip also. I’m sure he would really enjoy a three-day Phish bender.
I did a four show run last year and was exhausted at the end
The spirit of my early 20 year old self was laughing at me and called me old
Oh, totally not baseball related, but Colin: HIGH-FIVE!!!!
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on May 31, 2011 8:25 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Gig?
And you didn’t tell me???
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
They're celebrating the Ohio State thing.
I think they might be under the impression that it isn’t the same way at EVERY MAJOR SCHOOL!
"I was up at 3 a.m., racking my brain trying to figure out a play, and I hit a huge word, 72 points. He came right back with ‘Pleiades.’ What the hell is ‘Pleiades?’ Someone plays ‘Pleiades’ on me, I’ll punch him in the throat." - Adam Dunn
they're just celebrating
because michigan hasn’t been caught yet. in football. if my memory is correct i seem to recall they had some sort of irregularities in their basketball program though.
disheartening-o-meter: 9.2
When a sanctimonious, holier-than-thou, Bible-on-his-sleeve POS who has kicked you
in the balls flat out for 10 years gets caught with his pants down and a 2-inch long pecker, you’re damn right I’mma celebrate. FOSU, FJT, FO and FNCAA.
Does this go on to some degree at every school? Yup. Do student athletes deserve more compensation than they get? Yup. Does every big name program descend to THESE levels? Nope. I said it on facebook and twitter earlier, it’s a damn shame that SI provided Michigan’s biggest win over OSU in a decade, but a win is a win is a win, especially over those assholes. To quote Trey Songz, “LOL :-)”
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on May 31, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Bobby Jenks should be back tonight!
I’d love to see us give back one of his blown saves…Jenksgiving does not wear a Red Sox hat.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions
I prefer to interpret Jenksgiving in a Red Sox hat as
he gives up a 3 run bomb to us.
The spelling may be terrible right now and the memes hit or miss, but the concepts have been pretty goo... Imagine what this guy can do when he is posting well
thats right about where i'll be sitting Sunday.
I’ll be slightly closer, but thats the same vicinity.
I get to see Lester, too. Unfortunately it will be against Oakland.
(Brett Anderson though, so thats good)
The seats faced towards dead center
Fortunately I was on the aisle, and could angle myself towards home instead of having to use only my neck.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on May 31, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
that pretty much sucks, is that the right field box?
im in sec/box 4-B2. row D.
its a little confusing as to what that actually means though.
apples

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 31, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're actually around the corner, towards the bullpen.
So your seats will face towards the Monster, if I have it right.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on May 31, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
i wasnt sure if i was in the 4 or the 2 section
but you seem to think its 2 then?
either way, its going to be fun.
see if you can get any in the section in straight away center. its pretty nice
of course if you are there for a day game those will be blocked anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Going to catch the game tonight
Hopefully Humber has held on to whatever lightning in a bottle he captured.
The spelling may be terrible right now and the memes hit or miss, but the concepts have been pretty goo... Imagine what this guy can do when he is posting well
vince-
do you live out there?
i was wondering where the best place for pre-gaming might be.
Im sure there are a ton of options out there, but some inside information would be appreciated.
(from anyone really)
This will be my first trip to fenway
since I’ve moved out here, so sadly my knowledge of pre-gaming spots is lacking. I’ve heard there is a lot of bars around fenway, but they tend to get crowded. Although that’s the Boston bar experience in general – too many people, not enough bars.
The spelling may be terrible right now and the memes hit or miss, but the concepts have been pretty goo... Imagine what this guy can do when he is posting well
i imagine they will all be similar
jowly fucks with that annoying accent drinking sam adams all over the place.
by e-gus on May 31, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have come to enjoy sam adams
I think it might taste better here, being closer to the brewery.
But not the accent. Never the accent.
Also, I have on good authority that wearing the opposing team’s colors is no big deal as long as that team is not the Yankees.
The spelling may be terrible right now and the memes hit or miss, but the concepts have been pretty goo... Imagine what this guy can do when he is posting well
That's because neither Yankees nor Red Sox fans are even aware that any other teams exist.
Fuck them all. ITA.
"I was up at 3 a.m., racking my brain trying to figure out a play, and I hit a huge word, 72 points. He came right back with ‘Pleiades.’ What the hell is ‘Pleiades?’ Someone plays ‘Pleiades’ on me, I’ll punch him in the throat." - Adam Dunn
by RWShow on May 31, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am no fan of food that comes with sand in it.
The spelling may be terrible right now and the memes hit or miss, but the concepts have been pretty goo... Imagine what this guy can do when he is posting well
That's a risk you take with muscles too,
But I love ’em.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey I didn't say that.
PS, just finally looked at your indie Peavy pic. Hilarious.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
busted.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on May 31, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
"The Baseball Tavern" on boylston (and yawkey way)
about a block and a half from the park. (I’ve been there a couple times with a UW alum group.)
good chowda’, good sammiches. (Not an extensive beer list but not a Sam Adams to be found.) link
by gar ridge pride on May 31, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
yep. this is right.
dammit i love boston. such a great city. i wish i could have been at the games this weekend.
i stayed at the same hotel that the craigslist killer began his onslaught… the westin copley place :)
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
projected elias FA rankings
for those of you already considering the offseason.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/05/elias-rankings-update.html
pierre clinging to type B, castro in the vicinity. MB and jackson both comfortably there.
Letsgotribe.com seems to have forgetton the losses we have handed them
This was as complete a loss as the Indians have had this season. A pitcher who hadn’t won in 28 starts threw a complete game, Fausto Carmona was taken apart by the Toronto offense, and there was a bone-headed defensive play to add to the misery.
Interesting to watch Ozzie's perspective evolve on Humber
Humber clearly has it out for Colin….
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
A most excellent subplot, no?
"I was up at 3 a.m., racking my brain trying to figure out a play, and I hit a huge word, 72 points. He came right back with ‘Pleiades.’ What the hell is ‘Pleiades?’ Someone plays ‘Pleiades’ on me, I’ll punch him in the throat." - Adam Dunn
Yes, but it's under review
Apparently, ESPN has filed a petition with MLB. According to their simulations, Boston should have easily won last night, and Lester should have pitched a complete game, allowing only 2 ER. If MLB doesn’t reverse Boston’s “loss”, ESPN has threatened to remove the Phillies from any future television coverage, therefore reducing the entirety of MLB to the Red Sox and the Yankees.
If I were Kenny Williams and Ozzie
Call up Tank. He plays twice (maybe three) a week in left. DH’s with every lefty starter. Why not play him at third once a week?
Move Danks to the pen. It’s the easy call, sure he’s been a tad unlucky with the long ball, but that’s really about it. He hasn’t been very good for a month now and even with some regression Humber has still been very good. Spot start Danks once in a while against teams like the Rays (though I think we’re done with them) who can’t hit lefties.
Also...
As we all know the Sox schedule finally is going to get a tad easier after Wed. So if they can some how split the next two games, they finish the toughest part of the schedule 6 under .500. Not great… but I (we?) can deal with that as fans seeing that the only team they play that’s kind of above .500 until the Break are the D’Backs and I’m shorting that stock (I guess the M’s and Tigers are above .500 too, whatever). The goal over this next stretch is go go like 22-14… which would be two games above .500 at the Break.
Tad easier?
Much much easier. We play the Cubs, the Nationals, The D-Backs and The Rockies at the end of the month. We also have three against the Mariners and three against the Twins
July is even better.
I think the Tank is done with trying to play third
and we are done with the Rays (who are starting to cool again after we jumpstarted them in Tampa)
It's going to take more than 1 month of bad pitching
to throw your best starter over 3 years into the bullpen.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
Not to mention he would give the bullpen four lefties.
When a third reliable right-hander is the weak spot.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on May 31, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
people have short memories and still put huge stock in wins. clearly.
it was suggested at least once in the toronto gamethread.
Danks is pretty clearly
The worst starter on the Sox this year. WAR, ERA, FIP, xFIP, etc etc etc.
I’m happy he was good in 2009. Scotty Pods was pretty awesome for half a season in ’05, anyone want him back?
I'm open to other suggestions
And reasons why Jackson, Floyd, Peavy, Hums or Buehrle should go to the pen over Danks. I’ve presented my case…
yeah. that's what you should take from my comment.
as should be fairly obvious, when teahen is back on thursday or whenever, they will have 12. whoopie.
I believe the old larry had a better answer for a post like this.
by Grinder in Training on May 31, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
send him to the pen
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 31, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
That post was my sole reason for joining SSS a full 5 months later.
This space is available.
That may have been one of the greatest posts in SSS history.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I also liked his follow up
APB to all SSS residents THERE IS A SERIAL KILLER/RAPIST ON THE LOOSE. LOGIC HAS ALREADY BEEN KILLED. IT IS FEARED THAT GRAMMAR AND RHETORIC ARE BOTH TARGETS OF THIS KILLER.
KILLER WAS LAST SEEN IN A RED 1993 CAMARO IN MARKAM, ILLINOIS, WHERE HE DISCARDED HIS CLOTHES STAINED WITH THE BLOOD OF LOGIC AND PUT ON BLACK JEANS WITH TEARS IN BOTH KNEES AND A YELLOWED WIFEBEATER. HE IS CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO APPROACH OR ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE. CONTACT YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.
This line got me on a spiral hunting down the saga of WTGTD.
Ahhhh I loved the one of WTGTD vs Physics
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
wow. the more things change...
i agree with ozzie’s comment, too
but when did it become acceptable to not blame the hitting coach for over a year of bad hitting? if walker is immune to any blame, then isn’t this a profound indictment of the product that kw has payed S100M+ for? i know the vast majority of the blame goes on the individual hitters not getting the job done. that being said, what exactly is the point of a "hitting coach" if there is no accountability for the team’s hitting? is it ceremonial? the criteria for keeping a hitting coach has to be results based, right? so even if walker is just the fall guy, someone has to take responsibility for the sox lack of hitting. you can’t fire the whole team. this is about the largest shake-up that can be done in season. the players have been quick to defend walker, but there is no defending the numbers if we are to believe in the ‘talent’ kenny has brought together. doesn’t this seem like exactly the time when ‘a new perspective’ or ‘a fresh point of view’ or ‘a different philosophy’ would make sense? or do the sox have to wait until the season truly is lost before there can be some admission of failure with the team’s offense?
i wish someone had told me that sss had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 5, 2008 12:43 AM CDT actions
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on May 31, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You have become HSA digging on yoiur owm material.
Just “like” it, already.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
my numbers are the same as fields.
that’s the sad thing.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Pitchers are volitile. Drawing conclusions about performance going forward from a handful of starts is silly
"has been better"
over what timeframe are you referencing.
and the better question is how do you think everyone will perform going forward. i certainly would never base that on just the past month, though obviously you are fine with that.
2011
Look I love Danks too… his Brit Burns performance in 163 is one of my top three Sox moments. But the guys is the 6th best pitcher on the staff right now.
Plus if we think strategically a bit… this could hurt him in arbitration no?
So you are advocating pissing off a potential valuable free agent?
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
what you are using to qualify him as the ' 6th best pitcher on the staff' is spurious.
i’d be inclined to call him the best pitcher on the staff.
i'm fine with expecting dunn to come around too.
what would you do with them?
pierre has never been very good. rios hasn’t been that good for a while and beckham no.
not this.
if i was going to the game tonight id rather see anyone other than danks pitching. therefore he is currently the 6th man of a 6 man rotation :)
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
neither would i, i'd pick humber or floyd if it was tonight.
however, if i had to pick someone now to win me a game two months down the line i’d happily pick danks.
You're wrong, he is all the sudden horseshit
AND his recent horseshit will inevitably continue into a downward spiral. We should throw him in the bullpen so we can miss out on his regression.
Okay otter this is an utterly ridiculous comparsion
Again Danks has been bad for 1 month.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
Weird thing to say
I’m happy he was good in 2009.
He was equally good / better in 2010 (by fWAR/bWAR).
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
viciedo hits righties better than he does lefties.
in fairness, he does at least hit them, but still, they really need dunn to do it.
alert.
konerko is going to be on the mlb network at 3:15 central time. hazel mae has threatened to ask him why the white sox have had so much success against the red sox in boston and she has promised konerko will provide the answer.
i literally cannot wait.
disheartening-o-meter: 9.2
Pierre - LF Ramirez - SS Quentin - RF Konerko - 1B Pierzynski - C Rios - CF Dunn - DH Beckham - 2B Morel - 3B Humber - P
Final Exam Phil
You pitch well today and I’ll buy in for the year.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
What makes you think we can buy into him as legit after only 10 starts?
j/k
by Rhubarb on May 31, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For me it would only be a for a year right now.
At some point you have to. If you want to go half a year that’s fine. I wanted to see a third of the year and going thru NY and Boston with success.
Of course he could still crash and burn.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
I should also add season developments have also convinced me
If offense is truly suppressed this year and this guy insist on not walking people he’s a fair bet to limit extreme damage. Its what I love so far about Peavy’s start. No fucking around.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
So he's now on a one game test?
Talk about SSS. Birthday boy or not that you are, your boy E-Jax deserves less rope than Philly H.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
What does Jackson have to do with Humber?
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
and draft positions
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
My statements have nothing to do with bullpen decisions
I am merely talking about my own warped opinions.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
Defensive, aren't we?
I’m merely stating that you are giving E-Jax more latitude than the guy who hasn’t had but one bad game all year.
That wine is gonna be tasty, Dogg.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
It's over.
Double or nothing at the ASB?
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
by winningugly on May 31, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunn's gonna have 3 BB.
He won’t see many pitches.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're right, he'll see at least 12.
Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease
by Chiburb on May 31, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
For some reason Chiburb,
I picture you as Groucho Marx on about 70% of your comments.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on May 31, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

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