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Bad vibes abound with Sale's rocky start

I've had a thought rolling around in my head that I've been too frightened to put down in words, both because it could both lead me to ridicule and/or unnecessarily inspire further dread. But given that the similarities haven't ceased, it's time to workshop this idea:

Chris Sale is reminding me an awful lot of the 2008 version of Boone Logan.

Both pitchers are tall, wiry left-handed with odd arm slots and big fastball/slider combinations that left-handed hitters should find unhittable. "Should" is the operative word -- to use the parlance of Gameday, when lefties put the ball in play, outs aren't being recorded.

The overall numbers are much closer than everybody would like:

Year Guy
W L ERA G SV IP H HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2008 Logan
2 3 5.95 55 0 42.1 57 7 14 42 1.68 12.1 1.5 3.0 8.9 3.00
2011 Sale 2 0 7.15 11 1 11.1 15 3 5 13 1.765 11.9 2.4 4.0 10.3 2.60


And against lefties, they aren't much better.

Split PA AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip
2008 Logan vs. LHB 110 103 30 5 1 5 5 30 6.00 .291 .324 .505 .829 .397
2011 Sale vs. LHP
21 16 5 2 0 0 3 7 2.33 .313 .450 .438 .888 .556


Now, obviously there are major discrepancies. Sample size is one, if Sale's BABIP didn't tip you off. Pedigree is the other. Sale's a consensus first-round pick that probably should have gone higher, and Logan was a run-of-the-mill A-baller who parlayed spring training B-game success into an up-and-down major-league career (don't let your babies grow up to be right-handed).

And really, I wouldn't have drawn any connection between the two, had it not been triggered by a Brett Ballantini post from last week. That Sale has lost two ticks off his fastball so far hasn't helped, either.

Star-divide

Here's the paragraph from Ballantini's piece that stopped my brain:

Chris Sale has suffered a disastrous 2011 campaign so far, both on and off the field. Already embroiled in Stormwatch ’11: Closer Edition back on April 13, manager Ozzie Guillen was enraged at Sale for telling pitching coach Don Cooper he was ready to pitch after a career-high outing mere hours earlier (earning the win). Given that a key element of managing a successful staff is placing trust in your pitchers—without ignoring the blame Ozzie and Coop have to take for trusting a 22-year-old with more "stuff" than experience—it wasn’t a wise dip into bravado by Sale.

Just two weeks later, Sale’s woes on the mound had mounted, to the point that after nearly blowing a six-run lead in the ninth and forcing Guillen to call out closer Sergio Santos to nail a win down last night, the manager is calling Sale out as the disaster he is, injecting into his postgame comments a lecture about guys with great arms needing to learn how to throw strikes.

This took me back to 2008, when Boone Logan seemed to get it (1.05 WHIP, 1.95 ERA over 32 1/3 innings), before plummeting into Earth so hard, he could taste mantle. Prior to his demotion in August, he gave up 20 runs in the time it took him to record 24 outs.

There were numerous gut-check moments during Logan's plunge, from Don Cooper telling him to "get his head out of his ass," and Ozzie Guillen criticizing his body language.

Guillen gave him one last chance to prove his worth against Boston on Aug. 9. With the game tied at 1 in the seventh, he called for Logan for three consecutive matchups -- Jacoby Ellsbury, Jason Varitek and J.D. Drew. He gave up two singles and a walk to load the bases. When righty Dustin Pedroia came to the plate, Guillen came to the mound.

He didn't pull him. Instead, he gave him the ol' what-for on the mound, then went back to the dugout. Pedroia singled. Then the left-handed David Ortiz came to the plate, and he doubled. The Red Sox led 5-1, and Guillen pulled Logan all the way to Charlotte.

After the game, Guillen said about the situation, "'This is a pennant race. I want men on the field.''

The straits aren't that dire for Sale right now, but he's not on a good course. His relationships with relievers can deteriorate in a hurry if they fail him on two fronts:

  1. Lying about health or readiness otherwise.
  2. Failing to throw strikes when throwing strikes can't hurt.

And in the two appearances referenced by Ballantini above, Sale has been guilty of both. Guillen didn't chew out Sale for going to three-ball counts on every Oriole hitter while working with a six-run lead in the ninth, and that was a mild surprise. I had kinda expected him to slug him in the stomach after taking the ball.

Given the investment the Sox made in Sale and his relative inexperience, I think Guillen will go easier on him than the others. Guillen didn't lose anything by losing faith in Logan, who has had spurts of decency among lots of mediocrity since the Sox traded him to Atlanta in the Javier Vazquez deal. Locking Sale in his doghouse, on the other hand, would be a disaster on so many levels -- talent evaluation and deployment, player procurement, and even the draft.

At the same time, it makes sense for give Guillen and Sale a break from each other. Jake Peavy's return will force the Sox to shed a reliever, and with three non-closer lefties on the roster, there's no use for Sale in his current form. The results bear that out -- Sale has pitched less than any reliever in May, and Will Ohman is outperforming him handily.

It's a difficult decision, and I have no idea what truly makes sense. It's still early in the season in terms of sample sizes, but it's not "early" for the White Sox, thanks to the hole they've dug for themselves. And while knee-jerk demotions usually create more problems than they solve, anybody who is an affront to Guillen's bullpen honor code might require unusual means of protection. Bullpen situations have soured in a hurry before, and Sale's talent is worth preserving at all costs.

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can probably take this with the usual pinch of salt, but he & coop have been watching video from last year to try to fix things.

“My main focus is not about lighting up the radar gun,‘’ he said. "Everybody in this league can hit 98. That’s no secret. It’s a matter of where the pitch is, not how hard it is.‘’
“I’m just trying to get back into a rhythm and figure out what’s the reason behind what’s going on.’’

http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2011/05/chris-sale-white-sox-velocity.html

by craigws on May 9, 2011 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

when they're not all in anymore next month

i guess they can easily send him to the minors to be a starter.

by larry on May 9, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

What will they say??

Well, we are officially not all in anymore. But we are moving to be all in down in re dominican republic next year.

You think Sale has the tools to start in the bigs? That frame of his stand up to a full season?

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on May 9, 2011 5:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blessing in disguise?

With Buehrle and Jackson almost certainly gone after this season, they will need at least one new starter. Chris Sale anyone? Isn’t that why they drafted him?

With Thornton no longer in the closer role, there’s really no need for three lefties in the pen. Make the smart call and send him to AA to build up his arm strength and hone his change.

by polodude017 on May 9, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Mike Bertotti comparison would have been funny

Boone Logan is just plain mean.

sideways frowny face

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on May 9, 2011 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Jim= bearer of bad news

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on May 9, 2011 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Very negative posts today

We finally won a series and he slams us back down to earth. Jim might be my boss, who is a huge sox fan but also has these keeping it real qualities to his employees.

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on May 9, 2011 5:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jim hates a winning streak.

Gets his hopes up too high.

Sale needs to be a starter. We’re OK without him in the pen. Get him to Charlotte.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bridgeport to be born?

by winningugly on May 9, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was the post about Sergio negative?

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on May 9, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on

since you acknowledge that the caveats (sample size, babip, pedigree, etc) outweigh the substance of this post, perhaps your fear of posting it was justified.

by spengler on May 9, 2011 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I apologize for your dissatisfaction

Please see Debbie about a refund.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on May 9, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

better

would prefer this on the front page rather than that drivel about boone logan. sample size still not really usable, though.

by spengler on May 9, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where the hell is "Douchebag Idea of the Day"?

I mean, really, spengler? MT, big_fun and knoxfire need to see your talent in full bloom.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bridgeport to be born?

by winningugly on May 9, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

so 100 pounds?

I hope Kotsay gets hit by a dump truck and slips into a coma where he is stuck forever in Baseball purgatory having to bat against a three-headed, six-armed Lefty Hydra consisting of Billy Wagner, Damaso Marte, and Randy Johnson. - Shoeless In SC
It's like trying to sneak the sun past the rooster. - Hawk Harrelson

by blackoutsox on May 9, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

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