Reading Room: Santos needs to settle down
Sergio Santos is in the midst of his first rough stretch as a high-leverage reliever. He took the loss against Seattle on Wednesday, blew the save against Oakland on Friday, and put his team in a precarious position again on Sunday before a Brian O'Nora call bailed him out.
On The Score's "Hit and Run" program Sunday morning, Santos talked about what exactly happened, one day removed from the debacle:
"The past couple of days I've kinda been fighting against myself on that slider. Usually I just go on feel, and it just didn't feel that great, didn't have that release point for it, and I think it just kind of affected me a little bit, and I kind of sped things up instead of really slowing things down ... I kind of let the situation dictate what was happening."
Santos goes on to say that he had to resist attempting to power through his struggles and overthrowing instead of stepping off the mound, finding a happy place (my words, not his) and trusting his natural ability.
The good news is that he didn't look nearly as frazzled on Sunday. On Friday, there was one moment where it looked like A.J. Pierzynski didn't like the way Santos was looking in. He responded by standing up, flagging his arms and jogging to the mound for a powwow, like a corner man trying to drill instructions into his boxer's punch-drunk head. Santos appeared a little more composed, so ... there's that.
The problem is that Santos is only working with a fastball now. J.J. goes into greater detail about his pitch selection here and here, and I'm not certain that high-leverage work of any nature -- whether it's in the ninth inning or the seventh -- is where he'll rediscover it. He strikes me as somebody who is a little bit high-strung, and susceptible to getting caught up in the moment. That's not his fault, because this is only his third season as a pitcher, and he doesn't have a wealth of experience to draw upon.
But now that Matt Thornton is locating his fastball better, there might be an opportunity to work him into the ninth inning again, along with Jesse Crain. There is no elegant solution, but this ain't an elegant season, so it all fits.
Erik Johnson, the White Sox's second-round pick, pitched six quality innings in a victory over Dallas Baptist, ensuring a College World Series Appearance.
I watched Johnson pitch his last four innings, and there was a lot of stuff going on. He could ramp up his fastball to 94, and he hit 93 on his 95th and final pitch of the night, and he also used a two-seamerto run it away from lefties. His slider appeared to have two modes -- one with a downward break, and another one that acted like something cutterish. He snapped off maybe 10 looping curves, and also threw a few changeups, though he left them up in the zone.
Evidently his fastball was lagging in the first couple of innings, and command betrayed him here and there throughout the evening, as the scouting reports say, but there seems to be a good base of talent to work with.
James is back from vacation, and notes that John Danks has figured out the cutter that didn't do all that much in his rough outing against Toronto. Ramon Castro described it as "unbelievable" on Saturday.
In talking about his captain, Guillen either praised Paul Konerko by taking up his Hall of Fame case, or insulted everybody else:
"He will be in the Hall of Fame," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said Sunday. "And by the way, PK did it clean, there's no doubt he did it the right way." [...]
"The Hall of Fame can be too picky, there's not that many good players out there anymore," Guillen said. "You're not going to see the 3,000 hits, the 500 home runs and 300 wins."
Juan Pierre describes his problems on the basepaths as "a mixture of things," but Reason No. 1 never comes up.
The second segment is a great read, as Jesse Crain holds court on Ed Hickox's squeezy strike zone to thoughts on closing.
Brent Lillibridge says he never imagined playing the outfield as much as he's playing it this year, much less making Web Gem after Web Gem, and he credits Harold Baines with helping his positioning.
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Good work, boss.
Crain, please. We’ve done the Thornton thing. Maybe put him in with a 2-3 run lead, but that’s it for now.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
No need to designate anyone as closer
Go with the situation, who’s batting, which reliever is rested, who has the hot hand. It not like we have a guy that is pitching lights out like Santos was in April and May. I say you mix n match Santos, Easy Heat and Jesse the Body.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 13, 2011 7:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
Your turn.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
by winningugly on Jun 13, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I'd say the point about Thornton is he wasn't pitching well at that time
regardless of what inning it was.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
Agree, WU.
He doesn’t seem to have the makeup.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Pitchers are robots. There is no emotional variance between closing the game and not closing the game.
You must’ve learned this by now.
"we are going to have a skirmish" - pierzynskirules
If it improves their chances of winning, I'm all for it.
Sign them up for Cyber Controller Bill James’ upgrade.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
"you won't see 3,000 hits, 500 home runs, or 300 wins anymore"
As Jeter closes in on 3000 hits, Thome closes in on 600 homers and Buehrle is knocking on the door of 300 wins (only 146 to go). Perfect timing Ozzie.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 13, 2011 7:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
#1 reason for JP's decreased stolen base total...
Che tipping JP’s jump by yelling “RUN, you OPOS, RUN!!” at the top of his lungs just as the pitcher begins his wind-up.
NISFW (now it's safe for work!)
by greenlight on Jun 13, 2011 8:01 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
it'd be even funnier if it was Vizquel saying that.
We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT
I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 13, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
A hypothetical:
Let’s say Adam Dunn is OK. From this point forward, we get the Adam Dunn Kenny paid for last December.
If Dunn says “Greg Walker fixed me,” will you reconsider ol’ Number 29?
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
If both Dunn and Rios really start producing,
and then if both of them come out and swear on a stack of bibles that it was Walker who “Fixed” them, then yes, he finally gets a pass.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 13, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
What about Lillibridge saying that it was Walker that helped him adjust?
Rios also stated that he has been working with him to change up his swing. And we all know Konerko gives the guy lots of credit. I really don’t understand how people can feel he has had a negative effect on this team.
by 815Sox on Jun 13, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
have you been paying attention at all for the last five-six years?
it is easy to understand how people can feel he has a negative effect on this team.
the point is whether they are right or wrong to feel that way.
yes some people make no sense
I can understand people wanting a scapegoat, but its very short sighted. I don’t think its because they feel he failed Anderson and Fields.
Has anyone said he has a negative effect on the team?
What is being called into question is whether or not he has a positive effect on the team.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
plenty of people have
Suggesting that firing him and bringing in somebody else due to the struggles of the hitters is putting blame on him. What we do know is that he has had a positive effect on several players.
Overall he is a hitting coach, not that big of a deal when it comes down to it. Sounds like he helps the people that ask for it.
looking ahead over the next 9 games
a HUGE FU to the broadcasting schedule. minnesota series— tues june 14 and wed june 15 on WCIU. thurs june 16 on comcast. hurray!! a broadcast i can see!! oh wait, what time is that game on? AT FUCKING NOON. cubs series— mon june 20 and wed june 22 on WCIU. tues june 21 on comcast.
disheartening-o-meter: 7.9
Well, the first two Cub games are also on CSN and WGN respectively with the Cub feed
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
Whoops, meant to say the Cubs finale is also on CSN
So the schedule:
20: CSN Cubs, WCIU Sox
21: WGN Cubs, CSN Sox
22: CSN Cubs, WCIU Sox
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
ah, right. thanks.
i’d still rather see the games against the twins though.
disheartening-o-meter: 7.9
You're in Urbana right?
My parents told me that WCFN (channel 3?) started picking up some WCIU games
thanks.
i actually just made a fan shot about it. hopefully it helps those in rockford as well.
disheartening-o-meter: 7.9
As one who only gets to see games if they are OTA in Chicago, I have no complaints.
Sucks that WCIU doesn’t get down that way though.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 13, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
extra frustrating is when the game is on espn or mlb network
and i get blacked out of those even though i’m not within the WCIU broadcast range.
disheartening-o-meter: 7.9
So is it pretty likely that the obligatory deadline trade will be Tyler Flowers for a reliever, regardless of need?
The rotation is fine and they’re not going to do anything about the couple spots in the lineup that could arguably be upgraded, so it has to be a reliever, right?
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
I may come to accept my boys fate as a backup catcher (still have hope for better)
but I’ll shit bricks if they trade him for a freaking reliever.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
how much is a righty backup catcher worth
when he’s average at best on defense and may not hit very much, either.
Yes if he's truly a back-up catcher than that's his value.
But you still have some time left for Flowers. There have been catchers similar or worst then him succeeding in the show now. I’m not ready to cash him in for a freaking reliever. Its worth the risk of getting nothing for him.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
I'd prefer Andy Capp.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
by winningugly on Jun 13, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
hot fries!
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Jun 13, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Andy Dick is currently seeking employment....
"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 13, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Andy Weiner might be, too.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
by winningugly on Jun 13, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Your mother blows?
(From Urban Dic.) Your mother’s basement? Help an OPOS here, Troop.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
Yuneisky's My Bitch
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Jun 13, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah.
I like that one.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
Well, I'm talking about what Kenny Williams is likely to do, not what he should do.
Even if the team is doing well I can’t see Williams just sitting tight.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
No I understood.
That’s why I said I’d shit bricks. It also why I asked this question a few days ago in regards to a rebound of Rios or Dunn. I didn’t see any gaping holes and it surprised me.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
I've been on vacation for a week
Did I miss anything? New memes? Bannings? Actual baseball type things?
One scout said he blames all the White Sox losses in the last week on joewho
This sig is fantastic -winningugly
by Rhubarb on Jun 13, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to der Twain game on Tues,
I could take some pictures and do a write up of the Target Field experience, if you’d like Jim.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 13, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions
I'd like it if you responded to yer freakin emails!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Hehe, oops/
Replied
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Humber
All jokes aside Humber has now been worth a Bwar of 2.0 and fwar of 1.7 with about 1-2 less starts than the avg SP.
WTF?
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
My theory: Don Cooper is a vampire
He has been feeding on Pierre, Dunn, and Rios all season while imbuing Humber with the vampiric germ thus giving him great physical abilities.
I mean what other explanation is there for Coop’s ability to turn guys around?
by joewho112 on Jun 13, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Begs the question
Is there some kind of fundamental difference between a pitching coach and a hitting coach in general (ie, is what a pitching coach does somehow simply more amenable to success stories) or is there just a fundamental difference between Don Cooper and Greg Walker?
Two things
1. It raises the question. Begging the question is a type of logical fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begs_the_question
2. Being a souless undead monster that feeds on the living is as fundamental a difference as there is.
OK, but then why doesn't Humber have a day/night split?
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
by big_fun on Jun 13, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Not a full vampire yet
I am not sure how Coop’s vampirism is in question. Has anyone here seen him eat a head of garlic? QED
When Humber starts to sparkle, lookout.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 13, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank god for Kenny his buy low pitchers work out..
Makes his big money acquisition failures a little easier to swallow.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 13, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
"But now that Matt Thornton is locating his fastball better, there might be an opportunity to work him into the ninth inning again, along with Jesse Crain."
Yep screw a closer.
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
The whole WCIU mess with the Twins means living in Iowa is useful for once baseball-wise
The Twins are considered a local team here so I’ll get the Twins feed, and will just have to live with Bert circling half the stadium.
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
Nice piece, Jim.
This upcoming Twins series makes me nervous. Come on, you bastards (White Sox). They are still bad. Give me a nice bday present and kick their ass. Thanks.
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 13, 2011 10:53 AM CDT reply actions
They are whipping people's asses lately.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
by winningugly on Jun 13, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love for us to stop the Twainer momentum
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
looked back at the bridge highlight reel and found myself in the first video
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
i know, his work in the outfield brings me to a state of epiphany too.
he’s guiding us down the road to damascus out there.
by craigws on Jun 13, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nothing wrong with that.
Not at all.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
don't worry guys, it is going to be alright.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/6/13/2221500/minnesota-twins-news-al-central-race
al thinks the twins are still in it.
Al probably thinks the Cubs still have a chance this year.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 13, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
The national media is just itching for the Twins to keep playing slightly better
The Twins were supposed to be the little media darlings this year ala the Rays… plus Mauer needs to sell the Shampoo
oh yeah
‘Elysian Field Quarterly" had a monster piece in it’s Winter 2010 Edition on how the Twins were now America’s Team, which was covered on Minnesota Public Radio and was even mentioned in a late afternoon piece on NPR. Also, if Joe Morgan had a media outlet that would publish his baseball intellect, he’d tell you the same thing.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 13, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd look at the # of mentions on ESPN
about Mauer, Target Field, etc., the number of commercials featuring players in a God-forsaken state that no one pays attention to except Walter Mondale, and the number of televised games via ESPN. I’d say at least ESPN was rooting for them. Seems for awhile to me that the cheerleading was almost as bad as for the Heat.
FESPNITA.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
ESPN only roots for Yankees/Red Sox - everything else is secondary.
I really don’t remember that much media whoring for the Twins.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 13, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
On ESPN, sure.
No one else gives a damn.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
by big_fun on Jun 13, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
They always have a little scrappy grindy "team doin it right" that they sell
It has been the Twins recently
And I also did not suggest that they were anywhere near the Yankees/Red Sox/Heat/Cowboys/Lakers/ level
Those teams are on another level. The Mavericks beat the Heat and its all about the failure of the Heat. Last year the Rangers beat the Yankees and its all about the failure of the Yankees
This is AP quality writing.
They still had a solid bullpen — oh, wait; no, they didn’t, because several of last year’s solid relievers (Jesse Crain, Matt Guerrier and Jon Rauch) are all pitching for other teams in 2011.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 13, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Al tried to make a "not" joke
He thinks he’s people, how cute
by moroots on Jun 13, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha
We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT
I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 13, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
picking up on the pie in the sky realignment idea
Over the past 15 years this new system would have made the AL almost twice as competitive and the NL about a third less competitive. Overall an extra 0.3 teams would be in a competitive race per year. So the realignment would have slightly, but not drastically, increased number of teams in playoff hunt. Although it would change which teams were in the hunt; the new system would make it easier for teams from good division, e.g. the AL East, to make the playoffs.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-would-realignment-affect-playoff-races/
where does the other 17% competitiveness go?
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 13, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a nice blurb about the Sox in the power rankings
Juan Pierre has been a dreadful hitter (75 OPS+ entering Monday) and base stealer (his nine CS lead the majors), yet he has led off in 65 of their first 68 games and leads the AL in plate appearances. — Bill Parker: The Platoon Advantage
Free Dayan! or Lilly! (I can’t believe I just typed that……)
"Do you guys think you know more about sports than MJ or Kobe?"
Free Lilly indeed. Guy's earned it.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 13, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he's pretty much been freed, tje guys playin like 5 days a week
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
So you'd like to see Juan and Lili switch roles, with Lili getting all the starts in left and Juan spelling Alex and Carlos in the outfield?
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
or trading him for a rhp
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
From a playing time standpoint, yes.
From a positional standpoint, no.
You’d shift Bridge to CF or RF when you rest Rios or Quentin.
"we are going to have a skirmish" - pierzynskirules
I'd probably rather see Teahen out there, on the day's CQ is out.
But Lillibridge, Rios, Q! as your starting 3. Then let Pierre / Teahen get a start in there when the match up makes sense or someone needs a day off.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 13, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
like Carter
Richard hasn’t been too spectacular this year either. Makes me feel a little better about the deal – less all the d*mn money.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 13, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i would take him in a heartbeat
where the white women at?
by parkernutws05 on Jun 13, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I might be da man, but if not, good recap (not as good as larry though!)
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/6/11/2218832/2011-mlb-draft-review-chicago-white-sox
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
Kornheiser hatin' on the Sox on PTI
FTKITA
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
Awww Ton, why? I like you, and you go and do that.
It’s only because Ton has to disagree with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING Wilbon says, it’s how the show works.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 14, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
That we have no chance of catching Detroit.
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
Did the White Sox have a team captain before Paulie?
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
We'll be in first place by the AS Break
Look at the schedules. Cleveland has it tough and if Detroit plays about .500 ball, we’ll pass them.
Follow me on Twitter: @rmensch53
Both the Indians and Tigers have a one run lead
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
Swisher just lined out to 2nd on a 3-0 count with a runner on 1st and 1 out in the 6th.
Not the time to be swinging away. Inning over.
Joe Maddon just got tossed arguing a call at the plate to end the top of the 7th
It looks like he may have been right
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
Whoa, it was bad enough even the Detroit announcers are shaking their heads
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
While we are on the subject of Posada abuse....
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 13, 2011 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, it is:
Abuse enough just to look at him, let alone be him.
"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 13, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I consider it justice
but your point is well taken
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
oh, well then F that guy... had it coming.
"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 14, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Italian.
Probably beats his wife and all. Agreed.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
by winningugly on Jun 14, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The flopping in baseball is getting nearly as bad as basketball and soccer
by moroots on Jun 13, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
you think he is faking to earn a red card for the batter?
"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 13, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough crowd, mymanmo.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
Well crap, Detroit just had a walk off hit
Oh well. Two weeks ago we were 9.5 back, now we’re only 4.
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.

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