Time for Beckham to take the lead
The calls for Juan Pierre's job are growing so loud, his last name may as well be "Weiner."
(And now I find out that there isn't a .gif of Kevin Eubanks laughing. Internet, you have let me down.)
Of course, there's one big problem with replacing Pierre with Dayan Viciedo. It's not our problem, and in a perfect world, it wouldn't be anybody's problem. Alas, there's one person who has this problem, and he happens to fill out the lineup card:
If Pierre were gone, who would play the Leadoff Position?
After all, the nontraditional leadoff hitter paralyzed the South Side back in 2008, and clearly everybody's still coping with the aftereffects. Nick Swisher led off for the Sox for a little more than a month. He carried a .400+ OBP for the first three weeks of the season before suddenly realizing he couldn't hit leadoff. Or maybe he's just a naturally streaky hitter who stopped hitting. You tell me.
Orlando Cabrera, who said he didn't like hitting first, made the jump from the No. 2 spot and didn't hurt the team. A.J. Pierzynski, who doesn't even set the table at home, hit second the rest of the year. Was it ideal? No. Did it prevent the Sox from reaching the playoffs? No.
What everybody should have learned is that there are only two real requirements for hitting first:
- Be a credible major-league hitter.
- Be able to go from first to third on a single once in a while.
But Guillen's definitions are still more restrictive. It seems like he only considers three White Sox capable of hitting in the top two spots, and one of them squandered his opportunity even worse than Pierre. Perhaps if he made a stronger case, Guillen might be up for a game of Musical Chairs.
And that's why I'm looking at Gordon Beckham.
This isn't really about batting Beckham leadoff, because Beckham doesn't want to bat leadoff. This was well-established in the days leading up to and after the Juan Pierre trade in December of 2009. His reaction:
"They probably didn't want me to run or bunt a bunch," said Beckham of the difference in leading off, a responsibility he never discussed with the White Sox during the offseason. "I don't think they wanted me to be a guy I'm not.
"Even though I think they were OK with me leading off, I thought for sure they were going to get somebody. I was willing to do it if it was the last option we had, but I just didn't fit really well there.
"Now, it doesn't matter where I hit," Beckham said. "If they want me to drive in more runs, they probably will hit me lower in the order. If they want me to get on base more, they probably will hit me second."
If I cared about trying to convince Beckham that he could be a good leadoff hitter, I'd print out this article and meet him at a Starbucks to over it together with a highlighter. Reviewing the way history has unfurled since could assuage many of his concerns, like:
- They aren't getting much running from Pierre at the leadoff spot now.
- They aren't getting much out of bunting from Pierre at the leadoff spot now.
- Beckham probably bunted way more hitting second than he ever would batting first.
- Beckham is hitting lower in the order, all right -- low enough to drive in all of 49 runs in 2010.
- Pierre had 47 RBI batting leadoff in 2010.
At this point in our imaginary kaffeeklatsch, I would tell Beckham, "Congratulations, you and your awesome run-producing skills drove in two whole runs more than Captain Mister Bunts-All-The-Time." And then I would ask Beckham if he knew how many RBI he was on pace for in 2011. I imagine that he wouldn't know.
And here's where I would drop the bomb and tell him: 49.
This bit of news catches him off guard. His eyes drift down to the packet of Equal in his hands. He begins rotating it, folding and unfolding it, saying nothing. After a few beats, I pull my chair away from the table, and say, "If this is the guy you are, maybe it's time to be the guy you're not." Then I stand up, drum my knuckles on the table twice, and leave Beckham alone with the coffee I paid for.
And sceeeeeeeene.

But once again, this isn't about demanding that Gordon Beckham bats leadoff. Here's what it is about.
Beckham bottomed out on April 30, as an 0-for-4 day sent his triple-slash line plummeting to .194/.238/.296. While his overall numbers may not reflect it, Beckham has been fine since. He's hitting .283 since the beginning of May, with an OBP of .364. But because he once again crapped the bed at the start of the season, he's still hitting eighth.
At this moment, that batting average is used to drive in guys who haven't got on base (Adam Dunn and Alex Rios). That on-base percentage sets the table for noted run producers Brent Morel and Juan Pierre.
We can talk about how Pierre could be marginalized or moved, demoted or defenestrated, but Beckham's situation plays a big part in any subsequent plans. Right now, it's like the Sox took their rhythm guitarist and made him their roadie. Instead of providing a bridge between the front of the stage and the back, he's relegating to working when nobody's paying attention. As far as anybody cares to know, he's just more or less along for the ride.
Batting Beckham eighth is a doubly poor use of talent -- it's a waste of his production, and he's still using a handicapped tag when he stopped limping weeks ago.
On paper, he probably should hit leadoff. But this isn't about him batting leadoff, because that scares too many people. He just needs to do more. He could hit second, with Alexei Ramirez moving up to the top. Or he could bat fifth instead of A.J. Pierzynski, or sixth instead of Alex Rios. It really doesn't matter, as long as Beckham isn't being hidden among the glove-first guys and rookies attempting to hold their own.
Guillen might be gun-shy about placing more on Beckham's plate, because Beckham has fumbled his two previous opportunities at a greater role. But there's no use in protecting him anymore. Half the lineup is in a fragile state, and Beckham might be sturdier than the rest.
Either way, it's time to discover once and for all what Beckham truly can do. Maybe he sinks, maybe he swims, but even in the worst-case scenario, the Sox get more out of watching him gurgle and blub instead of what Pierre's doing now. He's one of the few guys on this team that could be considered a fixture of "the future," and while it's quite possible that he shouldn't be that high a priority, the Sox need to find out one way or another.
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id be shocked if they move pierre. nobody wants viciedo more than i do-
but pierre is ozzie’s guy and ozzie will fight to the finish with him. our only chance for any of this is if pierre hurts himself.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Or if someone hurts him for us.
Surely ONE of you must know “a guy.”
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Very nice piece, Jim.
I hadn’t thought about moving Beckham before, and agree. It couldn’t hurt, so, really…give it a shot. But KenWo’s right, Pierre is only out if he gets hurt.
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 7:50 AM CDT reply actions
Should be retitled: Beckham take the wheel
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
You are ready to be taught the new way.

by dr. lingerie on Jun 16, 2011 7:53 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
The new ... way?
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jun 16, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
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by U-God on Jun 16, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Wet Hot American Summer.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jun 16, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
most definitely must see.
not much of a plot, but that’s kinda the appeal. Kind of like Dazed and Confused.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 16, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the only reason Ozzie would consider the move
Is due to how many games Pierre lost us with his glove. He doesn’t offer us a damn thing out there at this point. I called for his removal before the season, so I’m biased, but what the hell does he bring to the table at this point? Lillibridge, Vizquel, Viciedo, I don’t give a shit who it is, Jordan Danks, anybody but Pierre out there in left is fine with me.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 16, 2011 7:54 AM CDT reply actions
Good piece, Boss.
Becks needs to grow up, and grow up fast. He is the logical choice to set the table. I’d like to see him hit the fastball more consistently, but whatthehell.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
I vote defenestrated. Maybe deloused. And deported?
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 16, 2011 8:26 AM CDT reply actions
In that order, yes.
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
No Eubanks

But if Pierre could run that well, we wouldn’t need the defenestration.
"What do you mean?" he answered. "I love the Outfield!"
wtf is this?
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 16, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
He almost Pierre'd it, hitting a part of the window that didn't give.
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
btrw, what do you think of my sig?
I guess more importantly… what do the mods think of my sig? :)
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 16, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I was going to comment, but I figured that would just be too self-aggrandising.
I like it.
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Decapitated.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Here's some good news:
We got a special guest for tomorrow.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
Kurby?
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
MPD
I am a lutheran simpleton fuckwit - bobpuller
by Rhubarb on Jun 16, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Forgive my ignorance...
huh?
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
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AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 16, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
razor shines?
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
maria bartiromo?
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Jun 16, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
FMB.
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
yep. i do not like her fatass.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Jun 16, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The thug we hired out to break JP's legs, and Jessy's S fingers?
Did it cost extra for him to give us a play by play?
by Grinder in Training on Jun 16, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
The white sox irritate me
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
by Tdogg on Jun 16, 2011 10:15 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
tell me all about it please
I would like to play the role of psychiatrist today. One warning, I will probably prescribe you cocaine.
I am a lutheran simpleton fuckwit - bobpuller
the white sox make me feel like i did a bunch of shots last night and am hungover today.
also making me feel that way: the shots
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Jun 16, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Anybody but Pierre!
Why nor Morel? How about Paulie, after all he has the best OBP – Oh! -I forgot that speed thing. If Rios were to be lead-off at least he wouldn’t hit into a double play once a game.
I vote to bring Viciedo up, start him in left and lead-off with whoever.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
F this, I'm playin hooky.
Leaving work to go to the game right meow.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 16, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
Beckham seems to be the only real answer
unless Ozzie could be convinced to go Tom Tango on us and run out Alexei, Q!, Rios, Konerko, and Dunn in that order
Fifth or sixth best hitter is supposed to hit third IIRC
Something like that. What Barold is suggesting is probably not too far from what The Book would recommend, depending on how bullish or bearish one is on Beckham.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
I guess 3rd is the spot you fill after 1, 2, 4 and 5
BtB article about lineup optimization
so assuming Rios is 5th best? could be AJ or Beckham instead i guess
a .654 OPS this month.
He’s making progress.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 16, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
in re: Alex Rios
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 16, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Put out an APB for ABP
It’s not robbing Peter to pay Paul — it’s bludgeoning Peter to death, and then realizing on the way back that you forgot to grab his wallet.
Pocket race cards
One of my passions in life is defending Mr. Pierre from racism. At first he was just another black American ball player inexplicably booed out of wrigley, but for whatever reason the hatred of him seems to go beyond even the expected cubby racism. Unlike LaTroy, Jacque, Dusty, Milton, etc, JP is hated by fans he’s never played for. Maybe it’s b/c he’s such an unimpressive physical specimen and has to work so hard to be where he is that white americans resent him for being . . . a white athlete? I dunno, not what I’m concerned with here.
This post and the comments show Sox fans are no stranger to unnecessarily focused and overly harsh criticism of JP. First of all, Becks’ 364 OBP since May is only .41 points higher than JP’s for the season. If the leadoff gets 400 more PAs (JP is at 300 now), that’ll equate to 16 more trips to/past first for Becks if they keep at this pace. Of course to bet that an inconsistent youngster will keep up numbers above his career avgs and bet that a pretty consistent vet will perform below his career avgs would be two bad bets, or together one stupid bet. So in the end we’ve got a stupid bet that putting Becks at 1 will give you 16 more baserunners. Why this stupid bet is worth a post is beyond me. If I were Ozzie Bonerko would be leading off. That is an argument. Becks would probably self-destruct at leadoff.
As if that isn’t enough, there have been multiple jokes about putting a hit out on JP and “anything but JP” comments. How many jokes have their been about putting a hit out on Dunn? Anyone but JP? You want Dunn leading off? Why is there so much JP hating? What did he so to you that countless other athletes haven’t done before and/or aren’t currently doing? Leadoff isn’t in the top 20 for problems with this team.
by jermainesjerman on Jun 16, 2011 3:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
if you want to be accurate, you should distinguish them as a youngster that should be improving and a veteran nearing the end of his career.
i think you are reading too much into it and you are not using decent comparisons. why would white sox fans want a hit on dunn? the man has to produce for them to win. if pierre produces to career norms it really doesn’t make much difference. dunn isn’t blocking anyone in the minors. juan is blocking viciedo.
the main reason he is drawing so much ire is because he blew two games at the start of the season and the team slumped heavily thereafter. you can argue the fairness of that, absolutely, but i think you are looking for something that (hopefully on the whole) isn’t there.
let's do some quick math.
juan pierre’s wOBA is .281. gordon beckham is at .303. let’s assume no improvement from either the rest of the way. let’s assume league average wOBA will be .320. and let’s assume 400 PA for each going forward.
juan pierre would be 13.5 runs below average. gordon beckham would be 6 runs below average. that’s a 7.5 runs difference, or .75 wins, in favor of beckham.
i’d note that their respective career average wOBA is exactly the same. adjusted for run scoring environments, beckham’s is better. i’d further note that pierre has exceeded his career average wOBA once in the past seven seasons. seems like that bet would have paid pretty well over that time period.
that's a racist argument.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
There's been a looooot of comments calling for Dunn's head too.
You’re not looking at all, and seeing what you want to see.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 16, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Last year's Pierre was Mark Kotsay.
So I’d put that race card back in your pocket.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jun 16, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Case in point
Thanks Mr. M. (btw I love ur work otherwise).
The fact that JP is the target of anything remotely similar to the hating campaign brought against one of the worst sox players in history is ridiculous. JP actually plays the field (well).
But I’m not getting into his merits or lack thereof with any specificity. I’m arguing proportionality here, racists. The anger is way out of proportion to the suck. You aren’t writing posts about every way the sox could gain .75 wins. Nor have their been death threats against everyone standing in the way of a .75 win improvement. If the SSS comments contain more death threats for JP than Gardenhire…you have a problem.
Usually when someone is accused of being racist without realizing it they immediately agree with the accuser and are apologetic. Oh wait, that has never happened ever in the history of racism. It isn’t easy to admit that you irrationally treat someone differently because of the color of their skin, but you probably do it all the time so you might as well start small. What is smaller than JP?
by jermainesjerman on Jun 16, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
not sure how you can say pierre has played the field well.
he’s been bad this year. his main skill is stealing bases. and he’s been really bad at that this year. i don’t know what level of anger you think is proportional but juan pierre is, by at least one recognized measure, the worst player in baseball this year. seems like that would warrant a rather high level of anger.
also, mark kotsay had 358 PA in 2010. pierre had 304 as of yesterday. kotsay’s WAR was -1.0. pierre’s is -1.1.
pierre is absolutely horseshit this year, worse than “one of the worst sox players in history”. and he’s getting treated the way he is because of that.
by larry on Jun 16, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you're absolutely correct. clearly that's why there's been a massive drumbeat to replace JP with another melanin-gifted player.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Jun 16, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
"What is smaller than JP?"
Your argument that we are somehow racist?
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 16, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
this is all a joke, right?
if not, this is one of the funniest non-intentional jokes I’ve read on here.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 17, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for your opinions. I wish you safe travel back to your home planet.
"we are going to have a skirmish" - pierzynskirules
by RWShow on Jun 16, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Also, "via mobile" is far and away my favorite part of this post.
I can envision you tap-tap-tapping out this tome on your (ironically) smart phone.
That vision almost makes this post worth it. Almost.
"we are going to have a skirmish" - pierzynskirules
That's an oddly specific life passion.
It’s not robbing Peter to pay Paul — it’s bludgeoning Peter to death, and then realizing on the way back that you forgot to grab his wallet.
I have to imagine the Pierre hate is very similar to the Podsednik hate.
Both their games are based on things the stats community doesn’t value yet they are beloved by old school types.
And I challenge you to find one player who dropped easily catchable balls that blew two winnable games in a week that hasn’t had scorn heaped upon them until they made that value up.
don't be so ridiculous
yeah effin hell – he’s black
by hoodlight on Jun 16, 2011 4:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pierre et al
Well Sox fans after today’s pathetic response in support of Mark B against the Twins its time to wake up and shake up this team! Forget Beckham at leadoff! Its time to bring the “Bridge” in full time in center and replace Alex Rios in center. Bat the Bridge in the leadoff spot. Dump Pierre and bring up Viciedo put him in left. Bat Viciedo third in the line up in Rios old spot. He’s tearing up Triple A with 10 f…n homers)
Paulie should stay in 4th spot. (Obviously) and Q should bat 5th not Pierzynski. Let Rios and Adam Dung platoon at DH and bat them 7th behind Pierzynski. (Either that or have Lillibridge playing second and bench Beckham who is sucking at the plate, in case some of you think Rios will rebound this late in the season.
Wake Up Ozzie and Kenny!!!! The season is on the line. Can’t wait for the slump artists to recoup any longer!

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