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KenWo's Corner- Quit Being Stubborn

I see it.  You see it.  Kenny Williams even sees it.  This team needs Dayan Viciedo up here immediately.  You can't have a lineup that has three legitimate threats and expect them to come all the way back and outlast the other 4 teams in an increasingly tight division race.  Thats right, we are now closer to last place than first after the Twins yearly run that coincides with dominance over us.  We are one game up in the loss column on the Twins and the new blood Royals, while 7 games back in the loss column of the first place Indians.  

Yet Ozzie Guillen continues to send out a variation of his same stale lineup he has thrown out there since Opening Day.  Meanwhile, you have a guy down in AAA that hit .308 for the big club last year, and according to all accounts, has improved his approach at the plate since then.  Viciedo is hitting .324/.369/.538 with 11 home runs and 47 RBI's in 64 games for Charlotte.  He also has received good reviews for his defensive play in the outfield.  

I'm not an anti- Juan Pierre guy...at least not as much as some people.  However, when Pierre isn't running wild on the basepaths- and he isn't (10 SBs, 9 CSs)- and he is surrounded by struggling players like Alex Rios, Adam Dunn, Gordon Beckham, Brent Morel and AJ Pierzynski, a change is needed.  Obviously Dunn is going to stick in the lineup on most occasions.  Pierzynski is the catcher 6 times a week.  Morel is a youngster who is finding his footing in the Majors.  Beckham had a lot of promise and deserves another year to try to live up to it.  Rios is the only true everyday center fielder on the club.  Pierre is the guy that is most easily replaced.  I have the feeling he would have been replaced a month ago if he wasn't Ozzie's guy.  Pierre is also struggling mightily with the glove and has never had an arm.  If you bring up Viciedo, you gain a better hitter for average and power, an outfield arm and the glove isn't going to be any worse than what Pierre has given you.  The only thing you lose is speed, which Pierre isn't using anyway.  It needs to happen soon and should have happened already.  Viciedo can play left on most occasions, DH against tough lefties and give Quentin a day off when needed.

If the rest of the lineup was doing what they were supposed to do, maybe we could live with Pierre.  They aren't though, so something needs to happen.  That something is Pierre to the bench, or given his release.  Pick one.

Star-divide

The votes for the SSS official third baseman has been tabulated.  Adrian Beltre gets the call with 37 percent of the vote.  Alex Rodriguez was 2nd with 26 percent and Evan Longoria managed 21 percent.  Brent Morel had a few homers give him the nod (11 percent), and Maicer Izturis managed 5 percent.

In the National League, Ryan Zimmerman narrowly beat out Placido Polanco in our closest race yet.  Zimmerman totaled 40 percent, while Polanco netted 35 percent.  Zimmerman has played in 12 games this year.  Way to go SSSers.

Next up is the backstops.  Here is the ballot for the catchers.  

In honor (?) of me getting the boot at work yesterday, I decided to take a look at the Managers of the White Sox since I have been following them, and how they have either landed on their feet or faltered.

Tony LaRussa- LaRussa got canned from the White Sox in 1986, 3 seasons after leading the White Sox to the playoffs for the first time in 25 years.  He immediately went to Oakland where he led the A's to much success in the late 80s and early 90s.  From there it was on to the Cardinals, where he has been since 1996.  LaRussa has been to 5 World Series since leaving the Sox, winning 2 of them.

Jim Fregosi- Fregosi took over for the final 96 games in 1986, and led the White Sox through some of their most trying times since I've been alive.  He was shown the door following the 1988 season where the Sox went 71-90.  He resurfaced in 1991, taking over the Phillies.  In 1993, he led the Phillies to the World Series, where Joe Carter ended their dream.  After 1996, he took a 3 year leave from the managerial ranks, but returned in 1999 and 2000 to manage the Blue Jays to a .515 winning percentage.  He currently serves as the top advance scout for the Braves.

Jeff Torborg- One of my all time favorite White Sox managers was forced out the door by Ron Schueler following the 1991 season.  He landed in New York for just over a year, before getting the boot 38 games into 1993.  He went on to broadcast for Fox and CBS, before taking over the Montreal Expos in 2001.  It was there where he gave Ozzie Guillen his first taste of coaching.  The tandem then went down to Florida during the Jeffrey Loria deal, where Torborg managed the Marlins for the 2002 season and the first 38 games of the 2003 season.  Torborg was fired after starting 2003 16-22 and replaced with Jack McKeon, who eventually guided the Marlins to the 2003 World Series Championship.  Torborg has done some limited broadcasting since then.

Gene Lamont- Mean Gene was the manager of the great White Sox teams of the early 90s.  He led the Sox to 86 wins in '92, 94 and a division championship in '93 and 67 and a first place finish in the strike shortened '94 campaign.  After the strike, the Sox were a shell of their former selves and started out '95 11-20, when the ax fell on Lamont.  In 1997, he took over the Pirates for 4 seasons, where he compiled a 295-352 record.  He has since been a third base coach for the Red Sox, Astros and now the Tigers.

Terry Bevington- Often considered the worst White Sox manager of all time, Bevington took over for Lamont in '95.  He went 57-56 the rest of the way.  In 1996 and 1997, the Sox finished 2nd each year but had the talent to exceed those marks.  Bevington ended his Sox managerial career 222-214, surprisingly over .500.  He was most known for calling to the bullpen for a relief pitcher when nobody was warming up.  He then was found Coaching 3rd for the Blue Jays from '99-'01, and has also managed several minor league teams, the last one in 2008.  

Jerry Manuel- Manuel took over the Sox in '98 and stayed through '03.  He compiled a 500-471 record for the Sox.  His tenure produced the last rebuilding season the Sox have had, '99, where the club went 75-86 with a lot of young players.  In 2000, the Kids showed the could play as Paul Konerko, Magglio Ordonez and Carlos Lee joined Frank Thomas in leading the Sox to a 95-67 record and a 1st place finish.  He was then terribly out managed by Lou Piniella and never reached the Playoffs again.  He was replaced after the '03 season with current skipper, Ozzie Guillen.  Manuel went on to coach and eventually manage the Mets where he led them to a 204-213 record in parts of 3 seasons.  He now can be found doing some analysis on the MLB Network.

Hopefully I am a little more LaRussa and a little less Bevington as the future plays out.

* Sox vs. Cubs is this week.  I know its the "cool thing" to say that the series is played out and overhyped.  Screw that.  I love going to those games every year.  The Cubs have been playing a little better over this last week, while we have been floundering.  Maybe the Crosstown Classic is just what we need to kick these guys in the ass and get them going again.

* Lets get these last 2 games over the Diamondbacks.  John Danks has been pitching well of late and we are facing Zach Duke.  Time for the bats to show up.  Philip Humber takes the hill on Sunday against Josh Collmenter.  Collmenter has been very good this year, but so has Humber.  

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thanks.

i figure i’ll end up being all good. jesus if terry bevington lasted to 2008 in baseball i should be able to catch on somewhere. lol

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 18, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's to better days ahead.

For you and the White Sox.

What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!

by 67WMAQ on Jun 18, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh man sorry to here that

Always amazes me when they let people go who work with the type of situation you work in. They really don’t understand what it takes, they will be missing you soon.

by 815Sox on Jun 18, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I voted for Zimmerman, and I stand by that vote.

I was well aware of his injury, and when he was coming back (last Tuesday) when I voted. When the AS game rolls around, he’ll be the best third baseman in baseball. Last season he was, this season he is, and next season he will be again.

Besides, you can’t vote for all stars after just two and a half months of games. It’s less than half the season! I am a proponent of looking at last season too, at least. If I didn’t I’d have to cast my catcher votes for Alex Avila and Miguel Montero. Instead, I’m voting for Mauer and McCann. They may have not been worth as much so far this season, but when all is said and done they’re the guys you’d want on the team.

by mechanical turk on Jun 18, 2011 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

wrong

id rather have JC or montero

"I wonder if converting Peavy to a closer role would be best? Help keep him healthy and help solidify the pen a bit." - Bent Over Beckham

by BoeJouma on Jun 18, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is 2 and a half years

through a 4 year 10 million dollar deal – does this mean he is a free agent after seaon 2012? if he is then they really ought to get some use out of him.

by hoodlight on Jun 18, 2011 12:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

they would never get away

with such restrictive employment practices in the EU – see Bosman

by hoodlight on Jun 18, 2011 12:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Viciedo isn't a citizen.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Jun 18, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like how you don't view this
it’s almost impossible to sack a teacher here – even when they fuck 15 year olds they are usually back in employ after a year or so. the teaching unions in the uk are very strong and do a very good job of defending their members.

as restrictive labor practices.

by larry on Jun 18, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wo, you are a teacher right?

Curious to know what you teach. Also know that the last few years have been a tough time for teachers. It really is amazing how little we have complained.

by affiniakw on Jun 18, 2011 12:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

i taught at an alternative school- i am certified in special ed and social studies.

yah its really been tough. my school merged with another and cut off 50 percent of the high school teaching staff. we didn’t have a very big staff anyway but 8 of the 16 teachers are out.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 18, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds tough

it’s almost impossible to sack a teacher here – even when they fuck 15 year olds they are usually back in employ after a year or so. the teaching unions in the uk are very strong and do a very good job of defending their members.

by hoodlight on Jun 18, 2011 12:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yah they were strong here too until very recently.

my school was private though and didn’t have a union.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 18, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

story all around the country

Illinois is receiving cut after cut and its the same in Wisconsin.

by 815Sox on Jun 18, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here in AZ

Teachers have never had unions seeing as it is a right to work state, but we have associations. Education is always the first thing to get cut in times of budgetary shortfalls. Especially now with the leadership that is in place. We have seen massive falloffs in enrollment as a result of the immigration laws that have been put into place. Of course less students means less funding which means less teachers and less technology. Sorry to drone, I know that this shouldn’t be a political message board. Peace.

by affiniakw on Jun 18, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chessfu drops some knowledge on yer ass:
I have seen enough of…..1:47 pm Jun 18, 2011
! Edwin Jackson, Juan Pierre, Alex Rios and Gordon Beckham to know. 2-3 of these players should be moved. Juan, Alex and now Gordon have turned into automatic outs , even worst then keep hitting into double plays. TRADE’EM, TRADE’EM!

by 815Sox on Jun 18, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

That's awful....

About your job…I hope your situation sees better days. That Viciedo is still in the minors is also awful. Guillen always preaches that he puts in the line up the players that gives him a better chance to win a game. He is not doing that.

If you chase two rabbits both will escape!

by JofpGallagher on Jun 18, 2011 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

My wife got pink-slipped last year

Worked some bullshit title one and 21st century grant contract garbage all year. Can’t wait for the current school age generation to be a bunch of misguided cretins. Think bos but times 100. Nice article

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by Rhubarb on Jun 18, 2011 7:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

haha thanks for that

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by blackoutsox on Jun 18, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is hilarious

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jun 18, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Viciedo...

my only question is, in this scenario, who hits leadoff? Hold off for a second on ripping me, I’m not insinuating in any way that this should prevent a switch, just wondering who the best option would be. I’d be ok with rolling with Alexei or someone there for the rest of this year, but I would prefer not to go into next year with someone like that in the leadoff spot. And honestly, after this year there’s really nowhere to put someone. Assuming Viciedo comes in and locks down a corner, the lineup is pretty much set for next season.

by polodude017 on Jun 19, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Whoever is getting on base the most at the time between Rios, Beckham or Ramirez.

On days Lillibridge or Vizquel play, they can lead off too. It really doesn’t matter, anyone will be an improvement over Pierre.

by 25or6to4 on Jun 19, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

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