White Sox 8, Diamondbacks 2: Humber holds 'em
For as long as this game was a pitchers' duel, Philip Humber was up to the task.
He gave the White Sox time to get used to Josh Collmenter's unorthodox, exaggerated overhand delivery by baffling the opposition himself. Given one run in the fourth inning, Humber made it hold up the way he has all season -- by attacking the strike zone.
The Sox ushered Collmenter off the field with solo homers by Paul Konerko and Alex Rios in the seventh, and they needed no time adjusting to the Arizona bullpen. A five-run eighth gave Humber a suddenly comfortable seventh victory of the season.
Give credit to the top of the order, where Juan Pierre and Omar Vizquel worked effectively in tandem. Each time Pierre reached base, Vizquel moved him to third. Pierre scored the first run of the game by going from first to third on Vizquel's single, and scoring on an Alexei Ramirez groundout. The eighth started in similar fashion -- this time on a hit-and-run -- and the rout was on.
Intentionally walking Konerko, who looked exceedingly at home in Arizona, didn't help. Brent Lillibridge shot a single through the right side to score Vizquel, and Alex Rios reached when Melvin Mora couldn't come up with his hot smash (called an error -- it was a tough error).
That brought A.J. Pierzynski to the plate with the bases loaded, and he foiled another Kirk Gibson maneuver. Gibson called in LOOGY Joe Patterson for a lefty-on-lefty matchup, and the latter lefty won. Pierzynski roped his first pitch to the right-center gap to clear the bases.
The White Sox had an 8-0 lead, and that was plenty for Humber. Maybe it was too much, because he didn't look nearly as sharp after the long layoff. He gave up the only two runs of the night on three hits, and issued a four-pitch walk before Ozzie Guillen pulled him. It was his only walk of the night.
Konerko allowed the bases to be loaded when he bounced an off-balance throw to Will Ohman, his third error of the single. So Guillen went with Brian Bruney, who fell behind 3-0 to Kelly Johnson before getting an inning-ending groundout to second.
Sergio Santos pitched a 1-2-3 ninth with two strikeouts to wrap it up, and hopefully that's a sign of better things to come.
Notes:
*Adam Dunn played right field for the first time in a White Sox uniform, and escaped the game unscathed. He even made a running catch in right-center.
*Mark Teahen made a great barehanded play on a bunt.
Record: 34-38 | Box score | Play-by-play
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there was a widely held belief that pedro would fall apart after 100 pitches.
dunno how true it was, but he did it in an important post-season game which fuelled the idea.
Sit Pierre for a game
and he comes back and gets a couple of hits. A pattern? Hope Ozzie notices. Even so, most on this blog want him to sit permanently.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Perhaps not permanently, but very often.
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
by JofpGallagher on Jun 19, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
This
AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 19, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how someone would come to possess a 16,000 sq. ft. home in Scottsdale, but if I were to guess...
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Wait for Konerko to get divorced and marry his ex?
(sorry for the misfire)
by FlyingSpaghettiMonster on Jun 19, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey guys, Twins fan here
Nice win today. Always nice to see AL Central teams win in interleague. Should be a competitive rest of the season.
Good luck!
Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?
I just got off the phone with John Danks,
he suggests you may have suffered some sort of blunt force trauma to the head. Hmm, yep, there’s a call from Herm insisting you get a CT just in case. May have to put you on the 7 day DL, you’re clearly disoriented and not thinking straight.
by mechanical turk on Jun 19, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck to you too......hopefully the Twins will lose more often.....they are winning quiet too many games lately for my taste.
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
by JofpGallagher on Jun 19, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
by the all star break the twins will have passed us
RECENT BOX SCORES
ADAM DUNN DH/1B
7 1/3 1HR 2K
60 0/4 4K
by Chicago Pride 2005 on Jun 19, 2011 8:03 PM CDT reply actions
The WSox team bus IS notoriously slow
NISFW (now it's safe for work!)
by greenlight on Jun 19, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
pointless factoid time:
humber become the first white sox pitcher to go at least seven innings in six straight starts since garland did it seven straight in ’07.
didn’t actually ever see all that much of garland, or maybe i did and he was just forgettable, but would that be a decent comparison to humber? at least results-wise?
Hopefully Humber stays and won't follow Garland's steps in 2007 to bring us a cry baby SS....
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
by JofpGallagher on Jun 19, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Humber has been pitching better than garland ever did.
I am a lutheran simpleton fuckwit - bobpuller
Garland's first 20 starts in 2005:
15-4, 3.09 ERA, averaging seven innings a start. That’s basically what Humber’s done, plus five starts.
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by Jim Margalus on Jun 19, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
that's what i was getting at. that, like garland, he has quietly been a lot better than anyone gives him credit for.
who hasn't given Humber credit?
and if the answer comes back “you” then y’all can blow me.
He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local
you.
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
by BuehrleMan on Jun 19, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you :)
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 19, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Jun 19, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
your dick's going to look like a prune
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Jun 19, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
So - normal.
IIRC.
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
wasn't referring to you colin, don't worry.
just making a generalisation in that he is having a very good season without much notice from the press or media. seems like he should get some for the whole ‘comeback’ thing alone.
well the thing is
his ERA’s fantastic so he’s not going to go unnoticed. it’s mostly that the Sox just don’t rate right now. if only they could get above .500.
He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local
you must have missed the caller to the score a couple days ago
that said humber should be starting the all-star game.
of course the next day someone calling the score asked why konerko isn’t playing third base.
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
this is just too easy
lol.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
So what your saying is that Humber is gonna bring us to the World Series this year, right?
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 19, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a decent comparison
The chief commonality being that they both took off when they cut their walk rates dramatically.
Where they differ is that Humber has a signature pitch. Garland never had one. He didn’t get strikeouts, and while he got a fair amount of grounders, he wasn’t a sinkerballer. So there were always people waiting for the bottom to drop out, and while he’d suffer through an annual dead-arm period, he delivered solid numbers over a lot of innings at the end of it.
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by Jim Margalus on Jun 19, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
Although fastball velocity became an issue, so there were concerns about how long he could hack it beyond anything peripheral-related.
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by Jim Margalus on Jun 19, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i always thought garland gets hosed on this site. he was pretty good for a long time.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I wasn't aware that he got hosed.
He was good. He gave up a lot of hits, but he held runners and fielded his position well. He did everything he could with his skill set. Very nice career.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jun 19, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
And all it took
To get him was Matt Karchner. One of the more lopsided trades in the White Sox favor. FNS
by southsideirish on Jun 19, 2011 10:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
who speaks ill of Garland?
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
4.36 as a full-time starter.
106 ERA+.
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by Jim Margalus on Jun 19, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
a tick above average in the Cell?
so like a 3 win pitcher? that sounds about right.
He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local
having just checked FG, i get 6 full seasons adding up to 17.3 wins ~ 3 WAR
He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local
i wasn't counting the ones when he wasn't any good yet.
figured him at his best was what we were talking about.
doesnt era+ take the cell out of the equation though?
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
i remember hearing that ERA+ is a crappy stat
but i don’t remember why it’s not just the pitcher version of OPS+. if it is that and i’m not remembering properly, then yeah it would be park corrected.
He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local
another quick question for a debate with a cubs fan
do you value WAR or era+ more? and which overall pitching stat do you like best for team comparsions?
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Jun 19, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
if you're talking about 6+ seasons, plain ol' ERA is fine iirc
i use a modified WAR usually though. take a normal FIP WAR that fangraphs uses and then adjust for whether or not you think he’s a good or bad BABIP guy and whether or not he’s a good or bad groundballer. xFIP can help you there, but it uses fly balls rather than ground balls. and there are real stringer issues determining what’s a fly and what’s a line drive.
you can’t be that exact until the sample size really gets going, so the things i care about are strikeouts, walks and grounders.
He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local
I can't use era and win because of the cell obviously but thanks
for the other info!
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Jun 19, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
but he didn't care.
you could tell by looking at him.
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
Yup. Californitis.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jun 19, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Humber has one 6-inning start in Oakland on May 13 keeping that streak from reaching 10 today.
And what’s funny, Humber started the 7th inning that day having allowed zero runs over just 69 pitches. But that’s the one game where I distinctly remember Humber being the kind of lucky those suggest when they cite his season BABIP and HR/FB. The A’s lined out hard those first six innings because Phil left everything up. His fastball locations that day:

yeah didn't have good command that game
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
So, what are the chances we lose Joey Cora......
McKeon is 80 years old and has been named manager of the Marlins…that’s got to be temporary. Is anybody here believe Cora could be a candidate?… I mean he was rumored to be on the Mariners list, and on the Brewers…Maybe Marlins now?
I am of course speculating a lot here…. nothing to base on.
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
Do you believe Thomas has a desire to work as a coach?
I think Jeffrey Loria is a terrible owner. I hope Cora does not end up there.
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
by JofpGallagher on Jun 19, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
he's 80 who knows what his brains are made of now
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
by Tdogg on Jun 19, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'll take it.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 19, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
your only requirement is to blow it against us
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Jun 19, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Mr. Yellon was squawking earlier that Florida would make a run at Ozzie next year.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jun 19, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
In the local paper here Ozzie is mentioned as someone
they should “take a run at” this offseason.
(KenWo perks up.)
And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.
At this point I am truly Humbered
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
no its not
i would never say that
Just second best.....
by pierzynskirules on Jun 20, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Watching Soriano fielding Alex Rod fly....and I thought Pierre was awful!!! Pfffft
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
more importantly
why did i not get a badge for granderson?!?! i have gameday open and he hit a triple. his badge says triple. BS.
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
fuck bud selig.
sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.
by BuehrleMan on Jun 19, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
at first i read this as communist selig
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Jun 19, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff Marquez pitching.....two batters....both reached bases
I am bored….
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
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Freamon: You give yourself too much credit.
Moreland: Okay then. I ain’t that humble.
Easy chief
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