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Big Time Matchup Factor: Jake Peavy vs. Cubs

Real Jake Peavy takes exception to his imaginary counterpart's Boutonesque approach.

Welcome back to Big Time Matchup Factor, where we've never heard of a seamless segue.  Jake Peavy is back on the bump again tonight against the hated Northsiders after yet another stint on the DL.  As much as everyone else will presumably be caught up in the Across Town Oil Cup, it's watching Peavy out there that makes those of us here at Big Time Matchup Factor most concerned.  Outside of his one truly great start--the complete game, 8 K Wundergeworfen against the Indians--he's consistently bothered BTMF producers and key grips alike with a lack of strikeouts.

See the thing that really made Peavy great over the course of his career had been the lack of contact batters made with his pitches.  That's to the tune of nearly 9 K's per 9 innings since he first took to the mound as a major leaguer.  His control has always been there too, but the ability to get whiffs made him special.  Worryingly, his K rate has really fallen off since leaving San Diego.  From just about 8 in '09 to just below 8 in '10 to now not even cracking 7 strikeouts every 9 innings so far in '11, he's shown the kind of decline that suggests a real change in stuff from his days as an ace.

Troubling indeed for White Sox partisans, whether behind the mic or out there in Chicagoland.  Here hopefully to raise our spirits and give us the low down in today's Attack Zone Interview Challenge is Fake Jake Peavy.

Star-divide

BTMF: Glad to have you here today, Fake Jake.

FJP: Glad to be here at Big Time Matchup Factor in the Attack Zone.

BTMF: Thoughts on your performance so far in 2011?

FJP: Well it goes without saying I'm disappointed with the way things have gone so far this season, both as a team and an individual.  I really expected to be able to bulldog and hard nose my way through this season with nary a consideration for my long term health coming back from a totally novel and unprecedented injury.  

BTMF: And it seems that the White Sox have been similarly surprised that your Achilles' heel has been every last bone, muscle and tendon in your body.

FJP: I don't think that's fair to my coccyx.

BTMF: Granted.  I should say that though your relative lack of stuff has been somewhat disheartening to behold, you do seem to have a good grasp on what it takes to be a successful pitcher as a junkballer.

FJP: To succeed in this league without a dominant fastball you'd better be able to spot it.  I've never been a guy who made his living throwing 93-94.  I've got a lot of pitches, all of which I'm comfortable throwing anywhere in any count.

BTMF: So what's the deal with the falling K rate then?

FJP: Y'know I was going a little overboard there with that bulldog and hard nosing stuff.  I've been pushing myself, but I still don't totally trust my arm.  I'm only 30, my velocity isn't going to just evaporate.  Trusting your body when it's falling down around you is a challenge itself and eventually the Sox staff and I will find the groove.  We're obviously not there yet.

BTMF: So concerned BMTFers may be indulging their neuroses somewhat in worrying about your lack of strikeouts?

FJP: Maybe not?  $17M a year is a lot of money and I'm more than worth it one of two ways.  Option the first I'm not as good as I was in San Diego, but Herm keeps me healthier.  Possibility two, I'm as good as I was in San Diego but with various health issues.  Either way, that gets me in the 3.5+ WAR range.  In that case, I'll be in the neighborhood of what I was worth in 2009.  Meaning my contract plus a bunch of pitching prospects.

BTMF:  That's awfully adroit for a ballplayer self-assessment.

FJP: Half-assed parody opens a lot of doors.

BTMF: <coughs>...So thoughts on how you'll approach batters in your reduced capacity?

FJP: Against right handed batters, I'm still very much a fastball-slider pitcher.  And in the past, I've had a good enough heater with excellent location and a put-away slider.  Get up early and get the whiff on 0-2/1-2/2-2 with the slider low and away.  Against lefties, it was more of a use-what-works approach.  Between the change, cutter, curve, slider and a fastball that i move in and and out, I could usually put an unexpected pitch in an unexpected location.

BTMF: But now?

FJP: But now I'm struggling to put hitters away even when I get up early in the count.  Even against lefties, I throw my slider a lot and I'm used to getting very good results with it.  But now the bite is really not there in the same way so it's a lot more mix-and-match to both sides of the plate.  I can still get a lot of weak contact, but before I would get whiffs and weak contact.  I'm a lot more dependent on location and so far so good.  But there will be days when my location isn't there and you'll wonder what exactly the difference between me and Phil Humber is.

BTMF: What can you buy with 17 million dollars anyway?

FJP: Adam Dunn?

BTMF: Never heard of him.  Any thoughts on your opposite number starting for the Cubs tonight?

FJP: Doug Davis is kind of a poor man's Mark Buehrle.  He's got the same repertoire but nibbles a lot more and doesn't have the pinpoint control.  So he's had a few more K's over his career and a ton more walks.  Whereas Mark has outperformed his peripherals his entire career despite pitching in homer-happy US Cellular, Davis is what his FIP says he is.  He's turning 36 this year and his fastball sits 84-86 mph.  He moves the ball in and out and tries to keep hitters off-balance, but it's not that hard to sit on a location.  Because he's a nibbler with less than stellar command, he'll put you on base if you let him.  He'll also come to your spot if you're patient enough.  A good number of our hitters are capable junk-handlers.  Look middle in and you just might get it.

BTMF: And Cubs hitters?

FJP:  You read southsidesox.com don't you?  U-God already gave us the 411. For me, the worry is lefty power hitters.  It's true that either handed batters can take me yard, but I'm a lot more comfortable moving in when necessary against righties.  Against lefties, that spot up and in is tough to hit for most pitchers.  If you've got a strikeout pitch, it's no big deal, but that's not me right now.  If you see me throwing good strikes with the fastball, that's as much as I can do right now.

BTMF: 411?

FJP: It's your fantasy, man.

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That's all the time we have with Fake Jake Peavy.  Tune in next time to Big Time Matchup Factor and our special guest in the Attack Zone, Fake Adam Dunn's Escaped Appendix!

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Nice, Colin.

I got a job offer today. First 3 SSS’ers to make it to Lou’s tonight get their beer on me.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

You going to accept?

Do they need anyone else? colin’s looking, IIRC.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 22, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only if it's the second shift.

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jun 22, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The offer is from my real job.

I’m moving from training to annuities. I haven’t officially accepted yet, but I will. I want to leave the food service industry.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Internal wholesaler?

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 22, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

(I'd get to quit working at Lou's).

I’ve been a contractor with an insurance company since September doing internal corporate training development. I was offered an annuity specialist position today. I kept both jobs to give me the most income possible.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good job.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 22, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

congrats

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

GD, this is perfect.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 22, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

NW Mutual?

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 22, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also:

My favorite line: “Half-assed parody opens a lot of doors.”

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

K rates confuse me a bit:

The drop from SD ‘09 to WS ’09 (3 starts, SSS) is expected, right? Not pitching to pitchers?
But even granting you the 3 ’09 starts as his " ’09 stats", is it that much of a drop from 8.1 to 7.8 in ’10?
And yes, a major drop this year. But isn’t that cxl’d out by the huge improvement in BB/9?

Other than that, much better than the Ventura intterview. But not as good as the Tommy John one.
Hee.

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jun 22, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

i was being a bit imprecise for the sake of the conceit

it’s always easier to get worse than it is to get better. my theory is basically that he’s not as healthy as he was in ‘09 prior to getting hurt and that he’s been getting lucky in a small sample size in the walk department. no real reason to think that he would dramatically improve his command/control with lesser stuff. worse stuff means you’re more hittable, have less room for error and you have to make more pitches since any one pitch is less likely to be an out. if anything, if his walk rate stays about the same we should be impressed.

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he truly now has anywhere near the control he's shown this year

I won’t mind the lack of k’s at all.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course not

but you gonna bet on that?

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what?

This year I will. I know its a small sample between the minors and the show but it just seems like he’s gung ho on it. I’m guessing he does 1.5 or less for the rest of the year.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

well now it's just a question of stakes

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well what are you guessing?

And then stakes baby!

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice try

That’s just me bidding against myself. I’ll do that if you are giving me odds. I’m the one taking the leap of faith from his career numbers.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you don't really guess he'll do 1.5 or better?

what do you guess? i think he’ll be around his career average give or take a bit.

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

No I do. But that doesn't mean I'll take a wager at that level.

It’s a negotiation. Lets say 2 or less.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

fewer.

sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.

by BuehrleMan on Jun 22, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

can i get 1.75?

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

1.85 and its a deal.

That a full walk less than last year.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

his career is 2.88 iirc

and it’s from here on out that he posts that, right? as in starting tonight until the end of the season, his walk rate must be less than 1.85 per 9 IP for you to win.

yes no? stakes?

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

2.5

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jun 22, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

AL only

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jun 22, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You were right:2.9

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jun 22, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you did

Yes

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 5:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

so what's on the line then?

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can create stakes you feel comfortable with

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was thinking a sixer of something pretty decent?

Michigan beer preferably for e of course. Bell’s or Founder’s or something for me. you have a micro preference?

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take one of the Goose Island beers

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matilda

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jun 22, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

*for me

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is some bullshit

lol

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read your own post man

Back out if you need to

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 9:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Im guessing it has something to do with FJP

thinking he can’t strike everyone out anymore.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome:
And it seems that the White Sox have been similarly surprised that your Achilles’ heel has been every last bone, muscle and tendon in your body.

the giraffe has struck Adam Dunn out. -South Side Expat

by Uribe Down on Jun 22, 2011 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, I know.

the giraffe has struck Adam Dunn out. -South Side Expat

by Uribe Down on Jun 22, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

ty the both of you

i was not at all sure this would come off.

He was lookin’ for the Express and got the Local

by colintj on Jun 22, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No need to question yourself

It was a fine post. I didn’t know you could turn out an interview like this; not like your usual excellent, but quite different, stuff.

"Great things have been effected by a few men well conducted" - George Rogers Clark

by Carthago Delenda Est on Jun 22, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has every reason to question himself

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jun 22, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

the white sox, if they win today, will have won their 17th straight interleague series. however, al is too much of a douche to let that fly:

There’s also a small asterisk around the “winning series” fact; in 2009, they split a pair of games with the Cubs at Wrigley Field — the third was rained out. When it was made up on September 3, 2009, both teams were floundering around .500 and the Sox called up Carlos Torres from Triple-A to start the game. The result, as it often seems to be for Cubs teams facing a pitcher they’ve never seen before, was a 5-0 White Sox victory.

by craigws on Jun 22, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those sneaky White Sox!

But seriously, how the eff does that scenario garner an asterisk?

by homesickalien on Jun 22, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Babe Ruth's record stands!

the giraffe has struck Adam Dunn out. -South Side Expat

by Uribe Down on Jun 22, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is on a subset of my list

where i put people who i can’t believe get paid to do what they do. he is slightly below john sterling.

sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.

by BuehrleMan on Jun 22, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is still amazing to me

Come to think of it a lot of things have been amazing to me lately.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

such a small asterisk that it can actually fit up al's tight ass.

what a cheeto-dick.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jun 22, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gonna need a lot of

silicon-based lube too.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was still laughing about this comment in the shower

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jun 22, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

since you put it that way

yes

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jun 22, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

cheeto-dick...

interesting…. thanks I will use that in the future.

by 815Sox on Jun 22, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

regular, puffs, or flamin' hot?

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jun 22, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

so the White Sox beat them

but it doesn’t count because they lost to a triple-A pitcher… fucking logic, how does it work?

by 815Sox on Jun 22, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

if true,

the White Sox have been a dynasty!

NISFW (now it's safe for work!)

by greenlight on Jun 22, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

hrmmm........ no facebook login, no 24hr wait

so far only moroots has taken the plunge: link

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jun 22, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT Question

Will be in Chicago tomorrow….

Does US Cellular have stores near the park like up at Wrigley where they sell merchandise?

by backtocali on Jun 22, 2011 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

This, This, This.

Best Sox stuff ever.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

So if I take the Red Line from downtown, get off on 35th, just walk 3 blocks past the park?

Is that still a pretty rough neighborhood, or has it ben gentrified?

by backtocali on Jun 22, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

*Englewood, my bad.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't let it happen again

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jun 22, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry boss.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 22, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try stopping at 35th street redhots along the way

By looking at it, you’d have no way of knowing, but they fry up a mean batch of shrimp

by moroots on Jun 22, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, I'll probably go for a Vienna Beef somewhere

I used to live in the Gold Coast, so when it comes to food and coming down to Chicago, I always like to stop for a Hot Dog.

I have a few Cub things already, but Id like to get a Sox shirt of hat. Hoping they have t-shirts with the older players on them like Aparicio or Nellie Fox.

by backtocali on Jun 22, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

1/2 block past the viaduct (just past the park on your way to the grandstand )

on the right (northwest corner of 35th & Normal) is a very good hot dog stand with fresh cut french fries.

  • recommended

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jun 22, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, in fact the neighborhood is really turning into something cool

still has local flavor, not gentrified bars and restaurants created for white boys

by 815Sox on Jun 22, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Silk.

Sow’s ears.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jun 22, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome, colin.

FJP has me in the mood, Hoss! The 2011 BP Cup is so close I can taste it!

Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?

by SkanchoDanza on Jun 22, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

damn you, ginger.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jun 22, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

tastes like gumbo.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jun 22, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

With the warmer temperatures

the pig lat should hold up just fine.

NISFW (now it's safe for work!)

by greenlight on Jun 22, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

O/U # games before back on DL?

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jun 22, 2011 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

F-I-F-T-Y T-W-O A-N-D A H-A-L-F.

O-U-C-H.

sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.

by BuehrleMan on Jun 22, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

N-O W-A-Y

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Jun 22, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good work, Colin. I like some levity paired with analysis.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jun 22, 2011 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

CYMB.

Colin, you Magnificent Bastard. “Half Assed parody opens a lot of doors” May be my new sig.

"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 22, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

They must have threatened your job

If you didn’t write something decent for once the axe would fall. Job secure, carry on!

by Rhubarb on Jun 22, 2011 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

me and all sane people. anyway, he has said he was misinterpreted about the part about fans being the worst.

what’s your feeling on the subject?

sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.

by BuehrleMan on Jun 22, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i get the arguments both for and against and have stayed out of it as 'let he who has never booed cast the first stone'.

as somebody that emptied my spleen on jenks last year in oakland, i’m no saint. but if somebody (or 40K somebodies) sat outside my cubicle and gave me the business every damn time a bug report came in, i’d think that guy was a complete asshole.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jun 22, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

so, this the gamethread?

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jun 22, 2011 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

not quite

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jun 22, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is great colin

a shame i’ve been too busy to keep up lately.

by Trooper on Jun 22, 2011 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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