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2011 MLB Draft: White Sox Day 2 draft picks

College graduates entering the job market have been hammered by dismal employment rates across the board.

But if you at least went to some college, you stood a good chance of getting a job offer from the White Sox on Wednesday -- at least if you pursued a major in baseball. If you stand at least 6'2" and pitch, all the better.

Doug Laumann and Co. selected 29 players on the second day of the MLB Draft. They didn't pick their first position player until the sixth round (shortstop Marcus Semien, one of three Cal player taken) and they didn't take their first high school player until the 29th round (outfielder Dustin Hayes).

In between, the White Sox selected 16 pitchers and four catchers, leaving only nine picks to spread around the rest of the diamond.

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One of the other picks from Cal was Erik Johnson, whom the Sox selected with their first pick of the day. Like first-round pick Keenyn Walker, Johnson found his way onto John Sickels' "Who Is That Guy?" list:

Johnson is ranked 97th on the Baseball America prospect list and 74th on the Perfect Game list, which would put him on the bottom fringes of the supplemental round or in the second. However, he has the power arm (90-95 MPH fastball, good slider) to go somewhere in the middle of the supplemental round for a team that believes they can refine his mechanics and polish his changeup.

Which jives with the Baseball America report:

Johnson has a big, 6-foot-2, 240-pound frame and sometimes has trouble maintaining his mechanics. His delivery can get a little rigid and he loses his arm slot at times, though he's been better about getting it back than he was last year. Johnson is quick to the plate and sits in the 90-94 mph range with his fastball and tops out at 95. His best secondary offering is a hard slider that he can throw for strikes or use as a wipeout pitch and he also mixes in a slow, show-me curveball and a changeup that is inconsistent, but shows flashes of being a quality pitch. Johnson sometimes tries to be too fine with his fastball instead of trusting that he can overpower hitters with it. While he needs to sharpen his fastball command, Johnson has shown a good enough feel for pitching to get by and go deep into games without it.

The pick is a nice complement to the second pick of last year's draft, Jacob Petricka. Petricka had a bigger fastball, but was struggling to harness a secondary pitch, whereas Johnson seems to have 2 1/2 pitches in the arsenal. That makes him a better bet to stick in the rotation, but his slider is indeed a "wipeout" pitch, he could have a second life in the bullpen if his changeup never comes around. That's a departure from years past.

It might be a while until we see him, as Johnson told CSNChicago.com, "I don't think I'll sign right away."

While on the subject of big fastballs and Sickels' list, introducing third-round pick Jeff Soptic. He, too, got a write-up by Sickels (did the Sox just print out his list and go from there?), and he's this year's biggest arm:

This 6-6 right-hander scrapes 100 MPH with his fastball and has a promising slider. Although somewhat unrefined as a pitcher, his upside is huge and his arm strength is as good as anyone else's in the draft. He could easily go in the supplemental round to a team looking for a high-octane arm to harness.

He has the University of Missouri as a backup plan, so either way, I win.

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As for the rest of the picks, FutureSox has a sentence or two about every pick. With the Sox selecting big pitcher after big pitcher, they kind of blend together, but here are some things that stand out to me:

Seventh round, Kevan Smith (Pitt): At 6'4" and 240 lbs, he's a big backstop with a power bat (he hit .397/.465/.637 this year), and BA says that he receives well. Miguel Gonzalez faces more low-minor competition after Michael Blanke passed him by.

Eighth round, Ian Gardeck (Angelina JC, Texas): He has a big arm, but he's relatively new to pitching and doesn't know exactly what to do with it. His slider comes and goes, and that'll be the key to his success, as BA says: "With two pitches that grade at 70 on the 20-80 scouting scale at times but command that rates a 35, Gardeck's pro future also is in the bullpen. He'll attend Alabama if he doesn't turn pro." He went to Crystal Lake High School.

14th round, Mark Ginther (Oklahoma State): Stop me if you've heard this one before: an athletic Oklahoma State third baseman who also played quarterback in high school.

17th round, Collin Kuhn (Arkansas): No apparent relation to Tyler.

20th round, Martin Medina (Cal State Bakersfield): One scout said his throwing motion was funky, and his bat was cold.

22nd round, Blake Drake (Indiana State): A teammate of Petricka's at Indiana State, and a helluva name.

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One notable player who went undrafted during the second day: Ozney Guillen. On one hand, this vindicates Kenny Williams, who was ripped by various members of the Guillen clan for waiting until the 22nd round to take him last year.

It might also explain this tweet from Ozzie Guillen:

Iam in very very bad mood stay away from me the most you canless than a minute ago via txt Favorite Retweet Reply

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Blake the Drake!

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jun 8, 2011 1:33 AM CDT reply actions  

anytime you can get someone who throws 100 is a good pick in my opinion.

hell look at kyle farnsworth. as much as he sucks he keeps getting jobs.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jun 8, 2011 2:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Ozzie is probably thinking

Onzey can at least hit .200 so he’s better than Kenny William’s CF and DH.

by striker on Jun 8, 2011 7:13 AM CDT reply actions  

by professional services do you mean prostitution and janitorial work?

We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT

I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 8, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

It means that people who went to school, received a degree are getting hired

The unemployment numbers are up because people with high school and vocational degrees are getting royally fucked. If you have 3+ years experience in whatever industry and are good at what you do, you are not going to have too much of an issue finding a job.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think the job market will ever really recover for those people?

To me it seems like the problem is not taxes or whatever political thing people want to bitch about this week, but the fact we just need a lot less people to do the same amount of work we did 30 years ago.

Computers have made people so efficient, that we just require a much smaller labor force in my opinion. Maybe I’m off base here, and new industries will make up for people losing their jobs, but I just don’t see it being enough.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 8, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The same thing was said when shoemakers were replaced by machines, typesetters replaced by machines, when the cotton gin was created...

That is why people are Luddites, that is why the movie Terminator exists. There will always be a place for laborers despite efficient machinery.

I think the problem in America is people dick around too much and don’t get trained in something useful and some say fuck college. The baby boomers are starting to feel more comfortable retiring or will get forced into retirement sooner than later and there will be a dearth of opportunities if you have a degree. If I were to counsel kids in high school I would say get an Electrical Engineering degree.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing, people today seem to think they are entitled to some great job

you have to work your way up the ladder. Ask WU, I’m sure he didn’t think he would be where he is today but hardwork got him to where he needed to be professionally.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

TY.

Agreed. And agree about the retirees. Many are leaping at the chance to take whatever pensions are available to them now (including Soc. Security) while the money’s there. Stupid, yes, but folks are exhausted and scared.

I see it in private co’s and public workers (teachers, cops, etc.) here. There is going to be a tsunami of retirees. And people are going to need to be hired to replace at least some of them.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity,

Why do you think seniors who are taking their social security and pensions now is not a good choice?

by moroots on Jun 8, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I imagine he thinks that crutch won't always be there.

and they will die poor and dependant on their children or grandchildren.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

SS isn’t broke. However, in 2039 the benefit under current assumptions will be 78% of what it is now because of underfunding. It won’t be bankrupt.

Medicaid/Medicare – ah, now there’s a different kettle of fish…

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because at the present rate

their SS grows 8%/year in benefit until they reach full retirement age. Too many folks are taking it right at 62 (and are still working, so they often pay some of it back because they make too much money!).

Unless folks have a history of non-longevity in their families I tell ’em to wait.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see

You’d have to accept a greater degree of risk to earn 8%+ on investments than would be appropriate for someone that age, right?

by moroots on Jun 8, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

There is nothing close to an 8% return out there that is US govt. guaranteed.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 3:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

there's a great future in plastics

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you mean "wealth" of opportunities.

“Dearth” is basically “death” – not positive.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes that is what I meant

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about for people with no experience coming out of college with 4 year liberal arts degrees?

We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT

I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 8, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go back to school for an advanced degree in something useful.

Teaching as a career has obviously been devalued almost everywhere.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's what i did

was working a bullshit factory job on nightshift with my BS, eventually starting taking part time classes for my MPH at UIC….

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

and if you're in a master's or doctoral program at a state school

you’re likely to find a 10-hr/20-hr stipend that waives tuitiion..the stipend is not much, but tuition is waived*

*with exception to MBA and similar programs

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

those positions are few and not available to everyone.

but yes, they do exist.

We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT

I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 8, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

See and now you're in Switzerland and not in a factory.

Good for you. The people who bitch about not finding a job either have to go find one and be serious about it or get trained in something useful. Reading Chaucer qualifies you for nothing except teaching it.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Digging your coaching today.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also this.

But SC, it was the same 30 years ago. I was one of them.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll tell you one thing

Don’t go to law school. Our summer program this year is like 1/5 the size it was at its largest, and probably about 1/3 of the size it was when I was a summer (which was actually a year where hiring was lower than it had been due to the post-9/11 economy swoon). There’s a lot of “the industry has permanently changed” talk as opposed to thoughts that it might fully come back to where it was in 2005-2006 or so.

Although if you get a full scholarship to law school it’s probably worth it. Then you don’t have to worry about the crushing debt most people have when finishing law school. I found law school to be quite interesting (and considerably easier than my chemical engineering undergrad degree had been).

by Yinka Double Dare on Jun 8, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I spent a large part of my career recruiting patent and IP attorneys

And it was 2008 went it went to shit. Now I am more of a generalist recruiter with a legal bent in my marketing efforts. First-year associate salaries were out of control and the partners were billing to cover those salaries but had the associates doing all the work. Corporations figured that out and started bringing mid-level associates in-house to lower outside legal fees. People with pedigree are still getting picked up but noting like the rate they used to. The legal profession is real tough right now. There are so many good people with years of experience who are jobless.

This sig is fantastic -winningugly

by Rhubarb on Jun 8, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that

My father works as an IP damages expert; he was laid off around then.

by moroots on Jun 8, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

guillen family

olney is the one i hate but its funny to see the family karma bite ozney, haha undrafted after 30 rounds, awesome

by Knoxfire30 on Jun 8, 2011 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

You usually recommend drowning someone in front of their children.

So I’m glad to see you’ve diversified your “hate” portfolio.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit.

I mean, HOLY SHIT!

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had not seen the humor in this,

but now I do. “Life long goal.”

Better to get it out of your system early than waste 30 years.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I suppose at 20.. "life long" goal is a stretch. (or however old he is?)

The point stands though. I’m not going to laugh at a kid for failing to reach his goals, just because his relatives are obnoxious.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 8, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, of course.

I only enjoy schadenfreude when politicians and attorneys get cornholed. Oh, and the Yankees and Cubs, too.

And despite his prodigious, powerful display,Battling loneliness, rage, misery
There really isn’t much else left to say.

by winningugly on Jun 8, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

BCB is getting REALLY good these days.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Jun 8, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

BCB.. is just, I don't know where that collection of people comes from.

But it’s unfortunate.

If you ever wanted to show a non-sports fan how different the two fan bases are, just send them there, and then have them come read our posts. It’s night and day.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 8, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

is the BCB community plotting to overthrow al?

i’ll gladly support the rebels

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

as wu said it's better to go ahead and get it out of the way at an early age

We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT

I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 8, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you have a real job?

I’d take failing in the minor leagues for the first 10 years after high school over my desk job any day of the week.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 8, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

And selling insurance after?

Seriously what do these guys do after they wash out? Most don’t have a degree and I would assume all of them have a blank resume in terms of job experience. Tough go of it in this economy.

by polodude017 on Jun 8, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

if they or their agent is smart

they will have negotiated for the team that signs them to pay for their college.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/scholarship.jsp?content=guide

by larry on Jun 8, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like larry said.. why can't they go to college when they're done?

The president of the rather large company I work for is a minor league washout.

Lasted a few years, got hurt, so he gave it up and went back to college, like I’d guess most minor leaguers do who would have gone to college originally. I don’t know why that’s a hard concept to grasp.

Sure, some of them won’t go to college, but do you think those people would have anyways? It’s not like you’re banned from a college campus once you reach 25.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 8, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention, their resume isn't empty.

They played baseball professionally.

If they want, as long as they were half-decent people, they should have no trouble finding a job as a coach somewhere. Being a pro athlete, even a bad one, opens plenty of doors.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 8, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

so would I

I’d gladly take flailing around in the minors as opposed to what I’m doing.

We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT

I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 8, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

it is hilarious to watch a spoiled rotten child fall flat on his face after turning his nose up at a class organization that apparently REACHED to draft him where they did and offer the money they offered, instead of being courteous and mature he and his father took the opposite approach and gave a big F U to the sox and their organization, so yea when this kid laughs off 50K plus at a time when unemployment is at 10 percent and families are struggling to make ends meet working hard ass jobs, not playing a damn game, sign me up to be the first one laughing in his face!

by Knoxfire30 on Jun 8, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, ozney's dad and brother are loose with the lips

but by most accounts, ozney seems like a nice kid so i don’t know why you’re referring to him as spoiled and rotten, and that he ‘laughed off’ 50k.

i would go as so far to say that no team would even sign you up for $5, unless you’re kenwo maybe

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

ozney

maybe i am unfairly assuming he is brash and pompus like his bro and father if so, i feel a little bad about ranting on him… but typically the apples dont fall far from the trees, and he did not handle getting drafted by the sox last year with any sense of class or appreciation

by Knoxfire30 on Jun 8, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

'he' did not handle...

are you serious? link some quotes specifically from ozney (i.e. not ozzie, oney, or his agent) before you continue on with your agenda

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha, dude, we all know you would have been drafted ahead of ozney

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 9, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

im all for the sox using sickels as a source

But, like, who cares right? Sack up and such. ~ colintj

by e-gus on Jun 8, 2011 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

me too yo

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

and don't take the bunk for granted this week

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 8, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I graduated from college.

Perhaps I’ll get selected today.

We all make mistakes wu.. I’m sure there has been a few times I was drunk enough that I forgot to put the booze in - GiT

I pulled a little something out of my ass. i’m feeling somewhat better - colin

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 8, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not the biggest MLB draft guy...

but after reading a little about most of the second day picks, they at least look like they have stuff/potential, which is a welcome change from the McCulloch/Broadway days. I couldn’t tell if you were taking a swipe at them with those first couple sentences or not.

by polodude017 on Jun 8, 2011 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

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