Nothing healthy about White Sox's respect for Twins

Nice piece, Jim.

sums up my feelings about us and the twins perfectly.

im sharing this piece with family

after he clearly went out of his way to drill jamie burke. that was the first showing of ozzie bending over for the twins. the sox were .5 back behind the twins on july 26 2004 when that happened. by the end of the week they were 6 games back- which included a twins sweep (the hunter/burke play happened in the first game of the series).

we didn’t drill him. ozzie basically gave hunter credit for knocking out burke. that was the first sign of ozzie’s knob slobbing of the twin organization.

to hack into the phones of the Twains’ cell phones. Someone will have undoubtedly made disparaging remarks about Ozzie’s kids that we can post on the Tweeters. I should think this would snap Ozzie out of his Love Twain.

It’s okay to repect a team. It is even okay to praise a team publically when you have beaten them but heaping praise on the team that habitually takes you behind the woodshed is not right. The Sox need to face the Twinkies with a bit of anger. Hopefuly, it is not too late for this year.

I freaking hate them. I want my team to step on their fucking throats. Get medieval on those bitches. You can respect somebody and still want to wipe the floor with them. All Ozzie wants to do is give em a reach around.

….this is the best yet. Well, said.

Hopefully it takes root amongst the chattering classes.

While staying up for hours after the big brother like face slapping once again at the hand of the Twins last Friday, I pondered my misdirected hate of Minnesota. Why do I hate them? I like the way they have played ball in the past & it appears to my naked eye they do things the right way baseball wise. Really, the only reason I cannot stand the Twins is because Chicago cannot beat them.

I should hate the Sox because they’re the ones who bring about my insomnia over another disappointing loss. I’m ticked at Ozzy Guillen because he cannot beat the Twins. I’m mad at Kenny Williams because he can’t sign players that are immune to this cloak of defeat that Minnesota throws over the Sox’ heads while kidney punching them repeatedly.

Honestly, the last statement is absurd. It’s not on Kenny IMO. The players have changed on both teams over the years & this year it felt like little brother finally has a step on the slower, fatter, injured big brother only to psychologically succumb to his mystifying greatness.

There have been many coaches let go because they can’t beat their rivals (ref. OSU vs. Michigan in college football as an example). I have long been a fan of Ozzy because I thought he was a good manager. There are parts of me that still think so…But, I must say that given the White Sox record over the past couple of seasons vs. the AL Central, let alone the Twins, there should be consideration for replacing him at the end of this season.

I’m ok with respecting Minnesota, but the reverence is tiresome. I’m still holding hope that the Sox can turn this season around. And no, I’m not asking for Ozzy’s firing, yet…

Thanks, Jim, for the shout out!

you know they will be polishing their knobs in their brains. Almost time for a lobotomy but lets see what happens in the 2nd Half. It is so embarassing, I’ve never seen anything like it in sports.

how our players and manager would wax poetic about the Twains, sending verbal love letters their way. Meanwhile, after the 2005 WC Mourneau had done an interview basically saying that he hated the Sox and that he would rather see any team win but them. I’m sure his tune has changed these days, because you certainly can’t hate a team you’ve whipped and neutered. The Sox keep getting socked in the jaw and asking for more and that all started with Ozzie. I guess this is just a long winded way of saying I agree with Jim on this wholeheartedly and think this is a great article/post.

“Toxic” is the right word. The Thome move went beyond mentally knocking themselves down. Ozzie’s vision was actively toxic.

Isn’t it more of just Ozzie and the broadcasters? I mean, you don’t hear the players or anyone in the front office slobbering over them, do you? I’m genuinely asking. I can’t recall reading or hearing anything like that from them.

There is scarcely a single phrase entered on this site without an accompanying stat line to back it up. You guys are the real piranhas. And yet when the SSS king himself makes an argument that something other than stats can explain the sox ineptitude it’s met with a chorus of praise in the comments section. At least show me an Ozzie quote that isn’t 5 years old. If on air commentary from DJ and Hawk is seriously affecting the team’s clubhouse chemistry or mental prep or whatever it is you are implying then we are in deep, deep, trouble.
BTW, the I was in Boston when the Red Sox won it (both) and “Cowboy Up,” what they used to get over their inferiority complex, was excrutiatingly lame. It also didn’t work the first year it emerged. The creator(s?) later appeared on Queer Eye and Damon titled his book on the era “idiots.” Be careful what you wish for.

The Sox record agin Minnesota is a history of failure.

The Sox regularly whipped the Senators—until they moved to Minnie.

In the seven seasons prior to the Senators moving in 1961, the Sox record against them was 108-46. In the seven seasons after the move to Min, the Sox record against them was 54-72. It took the Sox eight years to fashion a winning a winning season against TC, and that one was a measly 10-8.

Now, in its 51st year, the Sox are 361-414, with a grand total of 15 winning seasons out of 50, the last one being 2005.

So, the Sox can decide whether they want to win the division or not by deciding whether they want to beat Minnesota or not. That’s the real “all in” here.

but only because its true