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Rough season for Hawk talk

... to stop ruining his pearls of wisdom!

It hasn't been a good year for Hawk Harrelson phrases. It started with the venerable, harmless "can of corn," which has been under assault since Juan Pierre's first few rough weeks in the field. His play forced Hawk to provide himself an out -- "should be a..." -- on lazy flies hit to left field, which saddens me more than it should.

The becorned can isn't alone, because two others have also suffered under the weight of this most unusual of seasons.

No. 1: "Your offense is only as good as your bullpen."

This one is good for plenty of jokes on a game-to-game basis, but I know what Harrelson is trying to say. When a relief corps leaks oil, it keeps moving the goalposts farther and farther back. A bad bullpen can make even great offenses insufficient -- but that's too wordy, which makes it sound less black-and-white. Harrelson does like his absolutes.

But with the 2011 White Sox, it doesn't even apply in any way because the pitching staff is carrying the offense. The White Sox bullpen has the fifth-lowest ERA in the league, which is impressive when remembering how the season started.

Star-divide

 

The ERAs have been trending downward, along with the damage the White Sox bullpen has allowed in terms of triple-slash lines:

  • April: .281/.347/.441
  • May: .231/.328/.342
  • June/July: .208/.277/.303

Compare the relievers' general effectiveness to the offense's runs per game:

  • April: 3.89
  • May: 4.41
  • June/July: 3.69

For comparison's sake, the pre-Dick Allen 1970 White Sox, the last team to lose 100 games, scored 3.90 runs per game. Good luck getting your bullpen to coax victories out of that kind of support.

Conclusion: When Harrelson says, "Your offense is only as good as your bullpen," he's either insulting the efforts of seven fine individuals, or he's lying to us.

No. 2: "The more pitches you see, the more dangerous you become."

Harrelson has introduced this bromide recently, and this doesn't sound right to me, either. I formed a hypothesis before looking into it, thinking that the numbers would reveal the following:

No. 1: Long at-bats have lower batting averages in general (due to two strikes on the hitter), but OBPs will probably be higher (due to the increased likelihood of a walk).

No. 2: The White Sox aren't nearly as good in deep counts as the rest of the league.

So I ran Baseball-Reference.com's Play Index until smoke poured out of its figurative ears, and both are true. When running the Play Index for all plate appearances with seven or more plate appearances, the White Sox's resulting triple-slash line was well below the league average:

  • White Sox: .170/.357/.293
  • Rest of AL: .212/.386/.351

What I didn't realize was how hit-or-miss the entire offense was in deep counts. Breaking it down individually for all White Sox starters, and you get haves and have-nots:

Pos PA BA OBP SLG OPS
C A.J. Pierzynski 21 .211 .286 .211 .496
1B Paul Konerko 30 .318 .500 .591 1.091
2B Gordon Beckham 19 .176 .263 .365 .498
SS Alexei Ramirez 25 .235 .480 .353 .833
3B Brent Morel 10 .100 .100 .100 .200
LF Juan Pierre 18 .333 .444 .333 .778
CF Alexis Rios 15 .111 .467 .111 .578
RF Carlos Quentin 32 .050 .375 .200 .575
DH Adam Dunn 41 .161 .366 .516 .882

 

Now, when seeing Paul Konerko dominating his teammates in this category, I thought, "Of course! You'd see more fastballs with full counts!" But that doesn't explain the whole thing, because the second-best fastball hitter on the 2011 White Sox is the guy batting .050*. Meanwhile, Alexei Ramirez is the worst hitter in the league against fastballs, and he's quite respectable in this case, and the similarly struggling Juan Pierre has the highest batting average of anybody. So ... forget that theory.

(*Thanks to BuehrleMan's dogged documenting, Quentin's abysmal performance in long at-bats should catch few by surprise.)

Conclusion: I'm guessing Harrelson believes this due to some kind of memory bias. When a batter sees eight pitches and grounds out to short, that's just another at-bat. When a batter fouls off four straight pitches before smoking a double to the gap, that's incredibly joyful or painful, depending on who's hitting.

Based on how few Sox become "dangerous" after making the pitcher work -- especially in terms of slugging percentage -- I think we can write this one off. If it accomplishes anything, it just makes you jealous of the Red Sox (who hit .283/.452/.490 after seeing seven pitches or more).

Speaking of which, I tried looking up how well Yaz did under the circumstances, but the pitch-by-pitch data wasn't available during the Triple Crown season. I think we can safely assume that he's the best-ever at it.

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i always loved the first pitch. Its a fastball more times than not, and its usually a strike as the pitcher is going to try and get ahead of you. the more you stood up there the better the chance you were going to see breaking pitches. Unless it was hung like tommy lee, i wasn’t hitting a breaking pitch.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 7:07 AM CDT reply actions  

3-0 fastball...

I don’t understand why so many batters take all the time on 3-0. I understand you don’t want to help the pitcher out and doing what is best for the team, but I nothing pisses me off more than seeing a major league hitter watch an 85 mph fastball straight down the pipe. It is probably more complicated than I realize, but seriously, it bothers me as much as watching Dunn take that third strike right down the middle.

GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!

by hoosier3 on Jul 14, 2011 7:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree. as a coach i would always green light my top hitters on 3-0.

i assume most of the problems stem from some ball busting high school/college coach that would make them do 100 pushups if they popped up on the 3-0 or something.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on the goal.

If it’s leading off an inning, sure, take the pitch. If it’s with 2 outs and no one on, swing away.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

and the hitter, pitcher, score, etc.

what burns me with the Sox is it really depends on what is the best possible pitch to hit in the AB. If you’re a high strikeout guy (ahem…Dunn) and the pitcher you’re facing has great offspeed stuff, then you damned well better be looking FB 1st pitch or when ahead in the count.

On the 3-0 count with my HS players, again, it depends. Most HS pitchers will come with a FB when behind in counts. With that in mind 3-1 should bring another hittable FB. If behind in count, I tell hitters to make contact if the pitch is close with 2 strikes. Keep battling and maybe you see a hittable pitch. It doesn’t always work but I believe it makes a better PA given each experience.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aside from sliders, iirc, Dunn swings through

fastballs about as often as he does other offspeed stuff.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 11:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's true. can he hit anything?

Seriously, is there a pitch he’s making regula contact with? very confounding indeed

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's always done that.

that’s just who he his. it’s an approach that’s regularly made him ~30 runs/150 games better than an average hitter.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm speaking in terms of this season

I know he’s a high SO guy for career but he looks clueless to all pitches in the AB I’ve watched this year.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's swinging and missing at the same rate as ever

his BABIP is a full 60 points below his career avg.

it’s worth mentioning that he’s chasing on more pitches than his career average. and he’s getting more first pitch strikes than ever. but i really don’t think that matters more than his balls put in play.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on a lot of stuff.

Especially the score, and the hitter. If Juan Pierre or Morel is up there, if they hit the ball they’re not getting more than a base. You might as well take the pitch. Plus, 3-1 isn’t exactly a bad count. It only infuriates me when someone like Konerko or Quentin takes it.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 14, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't speak to the exact math

But the idea is a good one: don’t make an out when you don’t have to. The rough outline is: any pitch that isn’t a really good chance for a double or better and definitely a single should get a take. That goes until 3-2 where you take unless it’s definitely a strike.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 10:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You can't walk off Blue Island.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 14, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

This!

if a reason for the routine 3-0 take is don’t-help-the-pitcher-out, wouldn’t more green lights result in more walks overall?

by tommyjoepeters on Jul 14, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love these pieces.

Thanks, Jim. I liked to take a pitch, ala Wade Boggs (though not as anal as Wade about it). If you see more of what the pitcher can throw, you can read him better, I would guess is the reason he says it. It’s why theoretically you might hit a pitcher the 3rd time through the lineup (though that may be as a result of fatigue). I’m sure Tom Tango or someone has done work on this.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

wade boggs huh?

stop it. he was in his daddy’s nut sack when you were in your prime.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he was my hero.

He’s the first example I thought of as someone who without fail took the first pitch.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boggs

Once hit close to 400 in scenarios with him having 2 strikes. I forget the year but the guy was a beast.

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by Tdogg on Jul 14, 2011 8:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i always took the first pitch too, wu.

i hit lead off most of the time, so that was part of it.

Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun

by e-gus on Jul 14, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

usually i would take the first strike

not just pitch

Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun

by e-gus on Jul 14, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I used this line on a coworker the other day.

It remains one of my favorite stories shared on SSS. Thought you ought to know.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 14, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol thanks

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who is Yaz?

I remember Winningugly and Hoodlight always being the good guys.

by hoodlight on Jul 14, 2011 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

In the religion of Hawkerooism, Yaz is a powerful god of old. During his reign, all was far and just

Hawk fondly remembers this time to escape from the dark reality of our present age which is ruled over by charlatons such as the western demon Bean and his minions who lurk in underground lairs beneath their mothers’ homes.

by joewho112 on Jul 14, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!!

I assume hoodlight is a very young person. I recommend trying searching for greatest redsox players of all times or Triple Crown winners…

If you chase two rabbits both will escape!

by JofpGallagher on Jul 14, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

He lives across the pond and probably doesn't know the history of baseball as well as we do

Yaz is Carl Yastremski. Hall of Famer of the Red Sox. Hawk played with him and would just assume lick his nuts everyday of the week. Yaz can do no wrong in Yaz’s book.

by Rhubarb on Jul 14, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

80s electronic group, did the songs Situation and Don't Go.

Although I think they’re known as Yazoo in your neck of the woods.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 14, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawk

“Aj is still the best baserunner on this team, maybe in the league, possibly all time”

What drives me crazy about hawk besides how he picks out his favorite players and is brutally bias toward them, is that every week or so he says something along the lines of “in all my years in baseball I have never seen this….” and its usually something about the best catch ever, the worst slump, best young staffs ever in the AL, ect ect….

The over exaggerations just arent engaging in his broadcasts

by Knoxfire30 on Jul 14, 2011 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

He overexaggerates and is always so definative. For example, I’ll just make something up here hawk will say “Michael Cuddyer is the best at hitting a breaking ball to right field in baseball” when really in front of that phrase he should say “if you ask me” or “in my opinion” but no. Because what hawk thinks is a fact and that just gets on my nerves

by nsam93 on Jul 14, 2011 9:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm a bit biased towards Hawk ...

but I don’t mind the absolutes, definitives, and all time proclamations. Once somebody establishes themselves with that kind of personality, you can just dial it down yourself and know when he says “All-time Best” he means “He was good.” I know people like this at work; I have friends like this: its just the kind of personality they have.

However, for all his quirks, Hawk brings a lot to the table in entertainment value: my fiance’s nostrils hilariously flare whenever he’s talking, you get to wonder how far away from him Steve will be sitting when they turn the cameras on the both, you get to hear somebody seriously use the word “dagnubbit,” you get to watch him fall in love with phrases that he obviously thinks are very insightful.

Ever wonder how Hawk comes up with his phrases? He’s eating dinner at a fine bistro. Suddenly, he drops his fork, sending it clanging against the plate. Looking up, a sheen of brilliance is radiating from his eyes. Lips pursed, ready to explode: Don’t … stop … NOW … BOOOOOOYS!!! The restaurant erupts in applause, another winner.

by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 14, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haha. You've got the right attitude, I think, when it comes to Hawk.

I always notice the distance between him and Stone, too. While he can be unlistenable during brutal losing stretches, I still value the guy. He’s fun for the most part.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Jul 14, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i love the hawk.

its going to be a sad sad day when he calls it quits and there is some random 40 year old white dude doing the play by play like every other team. hawk is a legend.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

in his own mind maybe

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 14, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

nonsense.

ever listen to the other play by play guys? they are all alike, they are all boring. id take hawk over any of them in a heartbeat.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's starting to lose it.

if the team continues to be this bad he is going to be certifiably unlistenable.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Jul 14, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

aren't we all starting to lose it?

if the team continues to be this bad they are going to be certifiably unwatchable.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

he already is. has been for the last few years.

DJ and farmer are better then he is, and they are fucking mind blowingly horrible

"I wonder if converting Peavy to a closer role would be best? Help keep him healthy and help solidify the pen a bit." - Bent Over Beckham

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

DJ is the most unfortunate thing that happened to broadcasting ...

we’re all victims of his nice guy who stuck around and they put him somewhere status.

by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 14, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

If I have to listen to a series due to blackout or whatever, I can only make it through the first two with Ed and DJ before I start to feel like I’m going insane. Like if I don’t listen to the other team’s broadcast for the last one I’ll wind up sitting at stoplight and hear someone ask me “You think he should run here?,” or at a meeting discussing how we’re going to fill a budget gap and blurt out “They got some wooork to do!”

Ugh.

by Shinons* on Jul 14, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

the only thing DJ and Farmer do better than Hawk

is put me to sleep. If I’m listening on MLBatbat I always listen to the other team’s feed.

by Barold on Jul 14, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind the comedy value of Farmio and DJ.

The “work to doooo…” and any attempt at singing (or the harmonious “Four Seasons,”) are crimes against puppies and children.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Jul 14, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, they're not all like that.

i think we can at least agree that vin scully is way better than everyone else. there are others who are good, too. but many are not. hawk isn’t great, but i’d rather have him than a lot of others. complaining about broadcasters is just something fans do.

by larry on Jul 14, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

well i agree with scully obviously.

but he’s not in the cookie cutter mold either. it will be a sad day when chris rongey is doing play by play for the white sox.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

You never know what you’ve lost until it happens. Hawk is a very unique announcer, there isn’t another like him. Once you learn to not take him totally serious than it becomes much easier.

also, even my Cubs fan friends will drop “hawkisms” into everyday speech

by 815Sox on Jul 14, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

word up.

watching MLB.tv replays for other teams, it’s amazing how completely nondescript most of the other guys are.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 11:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Im fine with Hawk

but at this point he is just kind of a joke to me. His greatest strength is everyone hates him. I LOVE that. lol. Otherwise he just says the same nonsense and blabber every game. I could honestly do a whole telecast from tape edits without him in the booth after 4-5 games worth of material tops.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 14, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've said for a long time that a Hawk soundboard could seemlessly replace the actual Hawk.

Think about Madden football games. I haven’t played one in more than 10 years, but it would be easy to accomplish with Hawk.

Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?

by SkanchoDanza on Jul 14, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Hawk

but he can get mind-numbingly repetitive, and his self-conferred franchise for coining nicknames produces a lot of duds.

by tommyjoepeters on Jul 14, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

i always compare him to the crazy uncle

i love him to death. i know he’s crazy. but if you’re not a sox fan, you cannot talk about how he’s crazy

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 14, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

i luv it when you analyze.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Jul 14, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

First rule of Hawk Is Crazy Club:

You can’t talk about Hawk Is Crazy Club. Unless you are in Hawk Is Crazy Club.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

good or bad, he's ours

I usually find him hard to listen to, but I guarantee, when he’s moved on, there will be shrines built for him (and not just because the Sox do that for anybody).

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Jul 14, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love bitching about Hawk,

But I really do like Hawk. He’s a solid play by play, and at least he’s interesting. After listening to the Twins announcers, I wanted to kill myself from boredom. He’s definitely interesting, even if he is brutally bias and monstrously exaggerates. I also love that all other fans hate him.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 14, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

a typing error, Jim:
When running the Play Index for all plate appearances with seven or more plate appearances, the White Sox’s resulting triple-slash line was well below the league average:

I assume you meant pitches seen not plate appearances there.

Nice analysis as usual, though.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 14, 2011 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Power just came back on

Was off since monday… so much to catch up on

by 815Sox on Jul 14, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

In my over 50 years in baseball....

Why I never…….
Nice to see the facts Jim. Nice piece.

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by phastphil on Jul 14, 2011 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

hahahaha

"I wonder if converting Peavy to a closer role would be best? Help keep him healthy and help solidify the pen a bit." - Bent Over Beckham

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

sig'd

"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

to further detail quentin

he has seen more than four pitches in a plate appearance 120 times. that is 33.9% of his plate appearances. in those plate appearances he has 16.67% of his extra base hits. (2 homers and 5 doubles, but one of those doubles really should have been an out. on april 25th granderson butchered a fly to center and turned an out into a double. if he had caught it only 14.6% of quentin’s extra base hits would have come on the 5th pitch or after.)

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Jul 14, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

if you replaced hawk I would be ok with it

otherwise hes fine in the booth

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 14, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have my issues with Hawk

but generally speaking, I’m fine with his homerisms. Recently Fox had the Sox on & frankly it was boring as hell to me. I like the home announcer feel. I love it when Hawk & Stone talk baseball strategies even when I might not agree with them.

I may be in the minority, but I like Farmer. I like the way he adds color to radio broadcasts. I listen to games on the radio more times than not (Honestly, it’s because I don’t get as pissed when watching). DJ is just weird.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

comparing anybody to carver, they will be gods at announcing.

"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree on Carver, not a fan. He's too pompous for me.

I don’t recall who it was announcing the game, but it wasn’t Carver.

I had to look this up & it was Dick Stockton.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

its mccarver

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

not good enough for the mc

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

In 2005 I would have paid major league baseball 100 dollars (probably more)

to listen to hawk call it instead of berman and buck for the playoffs. and i’m not joking.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 14, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

we're all with you.

hawk still blows donkey balls. for free.

"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never had a problem with Farmer as a color guy, but play by play is not his calling.

And when DJ switches to pbp, it’s garbage.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jul 14, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

sigh

I miss John Rooney

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Jul 14, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

mistrial for the Rocket

Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun

by e-gus on Jul 14, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Fixed
Rough season new millenium for Hawk talk

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!

by ballyb on Jul 14, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

would love to see the triple slashes or wOBAs or something

to compare the results of PAs that reached a 3-0 count and the pitch was taken vs put into play.

too bad I haven’t given BRef any money

by Barold on Jul 14, 2011 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I am a lifetime Sox fan

and I have hated Harrelson form Day 1, along with his partner in suckage at that time, Don Drysdale.

That hillbilly schtick does not work in Chicago and saying that he is preferable to the corporate suits does not make it, because they are not the only choice. He is an embarrassment and I would like to ask any of his fans if they would like him if he was putting on the same hick act for the Twins or Cubs. No fucking way.

by bangkokhoosier on Jul 14, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

"I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine."

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Jul 14, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's your opinion.

Take a poll of Sox fans re. Harrelson. Very surprised if more than 30 – 40 % +.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!

by ballyb on Jul 14, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong, IMHO.

Reinsdorf values “family” to extreme as we all know.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!

by ballyb on Jul 14, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your hate has blinded you. YHO is wrong, IMHO

Millions of deluded tinley parkites, bridgeportians, and Poseners would flock to his memorial service. He is more loved than hated.

"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 14, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim,

we need an SSS vote.

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!

by ballyb on Jul 14, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel JerryOwens about Hawk.

He’s omnipresent and insignificant, all at once.

Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?

by SkanchoDanza on Jul 14, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

well isn't that kind of the job of a home announcer?

harry carey was loved on the south side. then sox fans decided to hate him when he was the babbling buffoon doing the cubs call. absolutely the same would happen for hawk. and i’m sure a lot of sox fans would have circle me burt signs if blyleven replaced stone.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, has anyone here ever watched a Bulls game?

Johnny Red Kerr was Hawk without the accent and more pro success. Stacey King is more of a mascot than Benny the Bull.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it's a problem

The depth of Funk’s analysis is saying ‘wild shot’ when an opposing player doesn’t make it, hating on foreign players (“Yi didn’t even look at the hoop there”), or just straight up saying strictly negative things about the other team. King, possibly, is worse. He’s more of hype-man than Flava Flav. “Hot Sauce”??? People use tired catch phrases when they aren’t quick enough to announce. Tell us why Korver was so open (downscreens, etc.) not scream ‘too fast, too good’ overdone nonsense.

LeBron James: Which of His Blessings would you deny?

by ProfessorEmmer on Jul 14, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i love stacey king

of course i was always a big fan of the flava too.

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by e-gus on Jul 14, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Len and Bob are actually a pretty decent tandem, IMO.

I’m surprised Brenly hasn’t gotten another chance to manage a team.

AJ Pierzynski: You have to want to catch.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 15, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

What the viewing audience resonates with is his 'genuine-ness' for lack of a better word.

I like hawk- he is candid, true to his warped sense of self-aggrandizement, entertaining, loves the game and the sox, and makes bad games better, and great games memorable. He is Foghorn Leghorn in living flesh.

Whadday’all think of the Hawk on Facebook? Seems a bit over-the-top to me… but I loved his road trip to Dollywood with Stone, Jackson and Farmer.

"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 14, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I have no problem with Hawk

He has entertainment value and is more interesting than any drone they may replace him with.

I do have a problem with this horseshit-thus-far season, however.

We’re All In…indeed!

"Yeah, it would be nice to get it going a little before the All-Star break." - Adam Dunn on his less-than-stellar year thus far (7/7/11)

by tailgater on Jul 14, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawk on facebook is officially the funniest thing I have ever seen on facebook

I demand the SSSer who created it reveal himself so I can congratulate him

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 14, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is hysterical.

I love that Chet Coppock talks as if it’s really Hawk.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

yah i got a chuckle out of that too

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does this fail to surprise me? Chet has been oblivious for decades.

But I did love him on George Michaels Sports Machine…. oh- wait. that was George Michaels.

"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 14, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

even money on Rhub

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not me

I can tell you that with enough truth to matter.

by Rhubarb on Jul 14, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is obviosuly someone who loves his work

not someone like me, who doesn’t. If I were running that page I would be putting him through hell. “I was golfing with Karko at Pebble Beach and I accidentally teed up my nutsack instead of the ball, since my balls drag on the floor. Damn those boxers.”

by Rhubarb on Jul 14, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

So kind of like @nothawk.

When Mauer’s knees gave out:

This wouldn’t have happened if Mauer could go 5 minutes without a mound visit.

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by mikecws91 on Jul 14, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

thats pretty good

Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun

by e-gus on Jul 14, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

he comes up with gems daily

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 15, 2011 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

in that case i think it’s someone you know

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 14, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I know who it is just based on who hawk was friends with when I got him.

I’ll never tell.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Jul 14, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

link?

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Jul 14, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

hawks profile

here

Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun

by e-gus on Jul 14, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Jul 17, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thom Brennaman is absolute horseshit.

Tampa games are horrific with him. Marty, his Dad, was good. Just like Joe Buck sucks and his Dad was great. Just like Skip Caray was OK and Chip is horseshit. Wonder if Vin Scully has a son, and if he also sucks as a broadcaster.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

wow i dont know about the last one.

i think chip is better than skip. skip is one of the most boring announcers i have ever heard. its clear the carey’s fell off after harry.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a poll.

The most misinformed announcer in all of recorded history is Chip Caray.

And, yes, there was a rather cliff-like fall-off after Harry.

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

"The most misinformed announcer in all of recorded history is Chip Caray."

Someone begs to differ.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 14, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least he had good years.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Jul 14, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're becoming difficult to remember.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 14, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I despise Thom Brennaman.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 14, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

When's the Famer expose'?

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!

by ballyb on Jul 14, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Farmer

My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.

LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!

by ballyb on Jul 14, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

more jaw-dropping incompetence, this time more directly related to baseball
Francisco Rodriguez’s recent change of agents helped hasten his trade to the Milwaukee Brewers, a critical deal that at least marginally enhances the Mets’ ability to re-sign Jose Reyes.

Rodriguez hired Scott Boras to represent him this month, which for the Mets was a signal to trade Rodriguez as soon as possible before any constraints arose. Once the deal was made late Tuesday night, the Mets could more realistically think about re-signing Reyes, who can be a free agent after the season.

The contract Rodriguez signed with the Mets before the 2009 season includes a limited no-trade clause, meaning he could list 10 teams to which he could veto a deal. But according to two baseball officials with direct knowledge of the situation, Rodriguez’s previous agent, Paul Kinzer, never submitted the list of 10 teams.

The Mets thought that once Boras assumed representation, he would scrutinize Rodriguez’s contract and either try to submit a list or perhaps file a grievance that might allow him to do so.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/sports/baseball/mets-traded-rodriguez-because-of-money-not-manpower.html?_r=1&ref=sports

by larry on Jul 14, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

shoulda been up long ago.

they probably read my post and realized “shit we do have him”.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

finally

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 15, 2011 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

THIS

and I will rec it because everything that is exactly a paragraph goes green around here.

by Rhubarb on Jul 14, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jul 14, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 14, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah he did fine that game

he and stoney pretty much shut up near the end until it was over and let the game do the work

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 15, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

like it or not, all those things make Hawk the Hawk

Do you want Ed Farmer and DJ to replace them? I am already far more tired of “We got some work to doooooooooo” than anything Hawk says.

by 815Sox on Jul 14, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

DJ might be the only thing worse.

Therefore, I’ve begun to mute my TV and call the damn game myself.

The Great Ballparks Tour 2011! Rogers Centre August 29, Yankee Stadium September 2, Citizens Bank Park September 5, Nationals Park September 6!

by mikecws91 on Jul 14, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

just read bm on the gamethreads

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 15, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN Sweet Spot preview

link

Chicago White Sox (44-48, -17)

What needs to be fixed or accomplished in the second half?
The Sox have suffered from incredibly disappointing offensive showings by Gordon Beckham, Brent Morel, Juan Pierre, Alex Rios and Adam Dunn, none of whom have an OPS+ over 82. They need to find their bats, and fast, or get out of the way because, despite being four games under .500, the Sox are still just five games back in the terrible AL Central.

Top item on shopping list?
It sounds like the Sox are getting ready to move Edwin Jackson, if they can find a taker. And why not? He’s frustratingly inconsistent, and the team has five other pitchers who can start. It’s unclear, however, whether there’s any interest around the game for Jackson, who is making more than $8 million. He’s not likely to bring back the kind of outfield help that this club needs, and the club doesn’t have the elite prospects to land an impact bat, either. The best they can probably do is to improve around the margins, by picking up a player like Coco Crisp from the A’s.

Player to watch.
Cuban import Dayan Viciedo, 22, is killing the ball at Charlotte (.325/.374/.535 with 16 homers). He could be a big help if he takes over for Pierre in left field, or the Sox could take a defensive hit by playing him at third over the atrocious Morel. But Ozzie is on record saying he does not want to move any of his veterans to accommodate the youngster.
— The Common Man, The Platoon Advantage

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by Tdogg on Jul 14, 2011 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

jackson and rios for crisp

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 15, 2011 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aww geeze we aren't gonna get anyone good are we
Two Braves scouts watched the Sox in Minnesota on June 15-16 and in Colorado on June 29-30, and Phillies representatives have watched the Sox throughout this season, including last week against the Royals.

Gonzalez: Decision time approaching for Sox (via)

by mechanical turk on Jul 14, 2011 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

brandon allen promoted

fuck you tony pena

"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Youdaman.

And read the Fangraphs piece – most of the posters in the PCL area say he’s overrated, just like all hitters in the AZ air are overrated (BA, anyone?).

by winningugly on Jul 14, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd take a half eaten deep dish pizza over Tony Pena.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 14, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

that was dropped on the sidewalk.

that’s how little I want Tony Pena.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 14, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

twas what i read prior to comment.

as for being the man, i strive to be da best

"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i felt that hawk's 'more pitches you see' thang

was also the idea that you’ll be able to hit the pitchers better in the later at-bats having already seen their full repertoire.

by craigws on Jul 14, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

yeah, my thoughts were not that he says that for the at bat

but for later in the game, or as more pitches are throw the fatigue sets in. who knows. i still hate hawk

"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza

by BoeJouma on Jul 14, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

why are we so bad at everything?

glaring problems all the time

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by Czheck on Jul 14, 2011 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

mlb channel game is yankees-jays

jeter just did the jump throw, bautista was safe by 5 steps. woo!

boxcars boxcars boxcars

by soxshenanigans on Jul 14, 2011 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

gold glove worthy

doesn’t matter if he makes outs, just needs to look good

where the white women at?

by parkernutws05 on Jul 14, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

that second phrase is quite awkward

because when a pitch count is high:

1. the pitcher has one pitch he’s sticking to(thats obviously working) and plays around in the strike zone to get the guy out otherwise he’s:

2. struggling with his command and is tossing meatballs more than a few occassions which in that case you should be lighting him up without deep pitch counts or keep plate discipline and take the BB’s which you wouldnt be able to do if:

3. the pticher has an array of pitches and is confusing the hitters every inning and they are fending off K’s every at bat.

if he’s walking you and has no command it doesnt matter. if he’s striking you out and you cant guess his pitches by the 6th inning then it doesnt matter.

it only matters if you go up there first-pitch swinging and have 1 or 2 pitch outs. I know hawk is trying to say work the count and work his arm but if you cant guess his money pitch at the right time and get on base it really doesnt matter

for me if i saw too many pitches then i get nervous because then its like i have to try and look for a pattern in my next at bat for the NEXT at bat after that. and if i just fouled everything off its not like i did a good job reading his pitches because i am just hoping it stays in the zone for me to make contact

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 14, 2011 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, welcome. That sounds about right. We can just shelve it as just another Hawkism.

With no snark, what makes you a White Sox fan? Do you often get to watch Hawks’ broadcasts?

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Jul 14, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the Hawk.

Gives you something more to talk about with your friends or family while watching the game. I also like that he’s a homer.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 14, 2011 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Hunter Thompson died Feb 2005.

I’m not saying he somehow got right in with the baseball Gods to make the White Sox win that year as to be able to party incorporate again using the Hawk as his medium. I’m just saying.

Nobody goes to Dollywood with Stoney without being on some serious Thompson level drugs

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Jul 15, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

where did he take it? Straight into the Hawk!

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Jul 15, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a little upset they're coming back. The break was nice.

"I have no patience for the homeless. Get your old, stinky ass out!" - Terry Boers

by RWShow on Jul 15, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think the word that should be in quotation marks

is “baseball”.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Jul 15, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Jul 15, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bahahaha,

Colon got LIT UP yesterday. Awesome.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 15, 2011 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Upon first reading I put the accent on the wrong SYLLable

and thought you were sharing about a visit to your favorite Thai restaurant.

White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.

by greenlight on Jul 15, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

on a related note...

I almost hurled when I say replays of Bautista’s ankle go “STRETCH!”

White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.

by greenlight on Jul 15, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

at first I thought you said Colin

and that is awesome. fbcatnnyite

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 15, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

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