Third base shift gums up roster further
In his typically inelegant fashion, Mark Teahen has grabbed control of third base from Brent Morel, thanks to a recent sorta-surge that has propelled his line all the way up to .228/.310/.347.
This is not the doomsday scenario it looked like it might be during spring training, because Teahen's defense has been quite acceptable. The fielding metrics give him a fairly wide range for the amount of playing time he's had -- Plus-Minus says he's just a tick under average (-1), while UZR pegs him at 1.4 runs above average -- but we can say he's shed the invisible sandwich board that plagued his defense last season.
His competition has plateaued. Morel had typical rookie problems early in the year (.475 OPS in April), followed by a better May (.686 OPS). Instead of progressing onwards and upwards, he's settled into the mid-.500s since.
That puts him in the same boat as Juan Pierre, where he's not the biggest problem on the team, but he is the easiest to solve. Ideally, you could steer a good-glove, soft-bat rookie through his first season by putting him on a course for 120 starts, with the rest of the team picking up his slack. But Alex Rios and Adam Dunn are really, really big bags of well-paid cement, which means Ozzie Guillen has to play up the margins and hope it adds up to something significant.
"I want to be in there, but I understand," Morel said. "For the way we were playing before the break and for us to play as well as we have the last couple of games, why would you switch anything up? I get it. I’m just rooting for those guys, and as long as we’re winning, why change anything? Teahen is playing well."
Unfortunately for Morel, really solving the problem would have the greatest adverse effect to him.
Aside from a mandatory backup catcher, it's hard to find room on a 25-man roster for a one-position bench player - at least when said roster is carrying 12 pitchers. It's even more difficult when Morel doesn't profile as a platoon bat.
He's hitting just .191/.214/.250 against lefties, which is surprisingly poor considering his minor-league track record. We can probably chalk some of it up to sample-size, but he hasn't shown much when he's had the chance. With the Sox facing two lefties this series (Danny Duffy and Bruce Chen), he might get a couple more cracks to right those numbers.
If Morel doesn't deliver and ends up as a kinda-platoon third baseman, he'll join Omar Vizquel and Brent Lillibridge, whose limitations have limited them to two July starts apiece. When the bench can't find playing time while the starters misfire this badly, well, that's a little bit of a personnel problem.
And now we're back to wondering why the Sox are sitting on their hands instead of promoting Dayan Viciedo (and maybe Alejandro De Aza, too), but that's well-worn territory. Keeping the focus on Morel is reason enough to refresh the discussion.
Demoting Morel wouldn't just be the easiest way to open a roster spot (he's the only guy with options), but it could very well be productive. His one flaw -- lack of selectivity at the plate -- never bit him in the minors, but it's undermining his game now. The Sox could send him down saying, "We know you can hit there, so we won't hold it against you if you strike out looking a few times."
That could very well be simplistic, but he can't be expected to hammer out a more professional plate approach sitting behind Teahen. And when the lineup has two gaping holes and three more players with an OPS+ below 90, having a bench with three glove-first guys makes even less sense.
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this has to be the longest stretch with the same lineup this season no?
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Correct.
Tonight will be the 5th game in a row it has been used, also making it the most common lineup of the season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/2011-batting-orders.shtml
Wow- our worst hitter in the # 4 slot. Recipe for Winning!!
Today’s lineup brought to you by Charlie Sheen!
"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 18, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Rios has been worse
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
I inferred hitter = offensive contributor in that context
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
i suppose a bad joke like that deserved to be walked all over.
“inferred”. christ.
by larry on Jul 18, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not that he can play the position
I was under the impression that was just so he and Viciedo could both get ABs
I submit they are not bags of cement- they are bags of mulch.
smelly, get spread everywhere and quite useless.
"I am an idiot Jackhammer" - WU
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 18, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BM is gonna be sooooo happy to read this article.
FMT. He’ll regress.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 18, 2011 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
Regress to his career averages?
Good enough for me, considering where he’s at right now.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 18, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
teahen's going yard tonight.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
since i called for teahen to get regular playing time
he has an OPS of .816 including at least two hang wiff ’ems that i can remember.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
oops. looks like i was wrong.
teahen did not look very hitterish tonight.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
SSS.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
(he did drive in the winning run though!)
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Sending down the brutal Morel
Makes too much sense since why would you want to replace a guy who isn’t producing when you’re All In? This is the most stubborn Sox team I’ve ever watched… at least the 2002-2004 teams you could hate the players and then get hopeful when one of them was replaced or moved around. This year it’s all front office/managerial hate, and it’s like hating your boss… nothing is gonna change and you’re stuck with what you’ve got.
As Jim pointed out...
he shouldn’t be sent down because he is struggling with the bat. He should be sent down because:
-He has options left.
-Dunn, Rios and (to a lesser extent lately) Pierre are making his struggles unbearable, whereas they would able to live with them were those guys producing.
-Viciedo’s bat is sorely needed.
-The other bench guys are out of options.
-He can only play on position.
Hey I've got a better reason for sending him down
.243/.259/.294
Then all the reasons you and others have listed. To put it another way, Morel is basically a better fielding 2007 Andy Gonzalez only with less power and doesn’t walk.
BTW, can someone can find a worse hitter with 200 PA’s in the majors this year?
Morel is basically a baseball-playing Frugal Gourmet
Only he doesn’t have facial hair and he’s alive.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jul 18, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
i'm going to rec that
even though i have no idea what it might mean.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
i'm assuming Jim wasn't talking about the male sexual harassment allegations. but who knows what goes on in the club house
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Oh. That.
Now my comparison is less valid.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jul 18, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
why were you making the argument for frugal gourmet in the first place?
there’s seemingly better comparisons to be made. Comparing Morel to an old, widely popular cooking show on public television formerly hosted by an eccentric, bearded old man (later accused for sexually assaulted a half dozen men) who finished each show with, “I bid you peace” is a wacky comparison, no?
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 19, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
TTJ
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Jul 19, 2011 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions
ya damn right it is
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 19, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
While that line is certainly horrid...
it’s doesn’t differ much from Dunn or Rios. Again, the reasons he should be sent down are remaining options and his ability to only play one position. But yeah, he hasn’t been able to hit the broad side of a barn, or at least hit it past the pitcher when he does.
and, with that defense, morel is more valuable (or less damaging) than them. certainly more valuable than dunn.
the option thing is obviously important. the fact that you have another replacement level player in teahen to slot in, too (and a player who is also not likely to be leaving the 25 man roster).
At this point...
sending him down to AAA really does make a lot of sense. Honestly, I thought he was rushed a little bit to begin with, so some seasoning at AAA could do him some good and open up a spot for Viciedo.
im not watching another game until viciedo comes up
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
dew point in ECI:
77.
:(
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Pretty sure I started sweating the moment I walked out my door this morning
I miss the days earlier this month where the temps would be in the 80s but with dewpoints in the 40s or even 30s. Now that was some pleasant weather.
by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 18, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at options
and yes Morel is logically to go down for 1 spot. But how about another. Do the White Sox really need 12 pitchers???
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
The fact that Morel is still on this team with a healthy Teahen, Lillibridge, and Vizquel while Viciedo and De Aza roast in AAA...
really gets my goat. This is the worst all-in hand I’ve ever witnessed. The White Sox have essentially gone all-in on Seven-Deuce off-suit.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 19, 2011 1:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
nice comparison
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

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