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KenWo's Corner- Crosstown Heroes

Sergio Santos has been on a roll lately.  Especially against the Crosstown Rival Cubs.  (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

People like to say that the Crosstown Classic is just another series.  I don't believe it for a minute.  Very rarely do we remember someone as being a "Tiger Killer" or a "Rays Killer", but I am sure most everyone on this site can name the guys who are "Cub Killers".  Juan Pierre took a step in that direction with a huge two run triple yesterday to give the Sox the two run cushion they needed for the victory.  Sergio Santos is quickly becoming a Cub Killer.  This season, Sergio has thrown 3 1/3 innings against the Cubs and has struck out 7 of the 10 outs he's recorded.  He also hasn't given up a hit and has nailed down 3 saves.  Three guys stick out in my mind as the greatest Cub Killers of all.  Carlos Lee, Jose Valentin and A.J. Pierzynski.  

Lee's totals in the Crosstown Classic are .326 with 9 homers and 31 RBI's in 36 career games.  The game I remember most came on June 8, 2001.  David Wells started the game for the White Sox and after two bunt singles to lead off the game by Eric Young and Miguel Cairo, he walked Sammy Sosa to load the bases.  Ron Coomer and Rondell White followed with base hits to make the game 2-0.  Wells was lifted after going 0 innings.  Sean Lowe was brought in and left the bags loaded.  He went on to pitch 5 shutout innings out of the bullpen.  With the game tied at 3 in the 10th, Courtney Duncan walked Tony Graffanino with one out, gave up a single to Chris Singleton and intentionally passed Ray Durham to load the bases.  After Magglio Ordonez struck out, Carlos Lee hit a grand slam into the left field bleachers to send the South Side crowd into a frenzy.  

Jose Valentin's Crosstown numbers don't show much in the way of batting average, as he only hit .211 vs. the Cubs. However, he hit 6 homers and knocked in 14 runs in the 28 games he played against them.  Two homers stick out more than the others.  On July 13, 2001, the Sox were leading 3-0 going into the bottom of the 6th.  With one man on, Sammy Sosa bombed a Mark Buerhle offering over the left field wall to cut the lead to 3-2.  Sosa, never one to shy away from the cameras, did his patented kiss of the fingers and pound of the chest.  In the top of the 7th, Valentin lead off the inning with a homer of his own, off of current White Sox Will Ohman, and mocked Sosa by doing his maneuver- which pissed off Cub fans to no end.  Then on June 27, 2003, Valentin pulled off more heroics.  The Sox were leading 3-1 going into the 9th, but the combination of Tom Gordon and Billy Koch blew it and the Sox entered the bottom of the 9th tied at 3.  With one out, Valentin stepped to the plate facing Antonio Alfonseca and ended the game with a walk off homer.  

A.J. Pierzynski has had plenty of memorable moments in his Crosstown Classic career.  On May 20, 2006, Pierzynski ran over Cubs catcher Michael Barrett at the plate and took a punch as the benches cleared.  Pierzynski added to the scene by calling for the crowd to get louder.  Shortly afterwards Tadahito Iguchi hit a grand slam that put the game out of reach as the Sox won 7-0.  Fast forward  a little over a month.  The Cubs were leading 6-5 with Ryan Dempster on the mound.  He retired the first two batters before giving up a single to Ross Gload and walking Jermaine Dye.  Up stepped the number 1 villain, Pierzynski.  A.J. connected for a 3 run bomb, causing the Wrigley faithful to trash their beloved ballpark.  Bobby Jenks shut the door on the Cubs and the Sox won 8-6.  Pierzynski is still killing them, as he started off the big 4 run rally in yesterdays game with a base hit to center.

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It goes both ways though.  Aramis Ramirez has killed the Sox plenty of times.  Brant Brown made me want to throw up when he hit a walk off homer off of that no good bum Tony Castillo back in 1998.  About a month after Carlos Lee hit his walk-off grand slam, Ricky Gutierrez hit one in the bottom of the 8th at Wrigley vs. Bobby Howry to give the Cubs a 5-1 lead and the eventual victory.  

Starting in 1905-1942 the White Sox and Cubs played in a city series at the end of the season.  Here are the results of those games.  Then from the '40s- early '70s they played one exhibition game in the middle of the year.  It started up again in 1985 and lasted until 1994.  The Sox went 8-0-2 in those last 10 Windy City Classic games.  Here is a really cool highlight of the final one in 1994.  

So while others will say that the luster has worn off or that it is "just another game on the schedule"... I say to hell with that.  These games mean a little bit more than any other game in June.  It always makes for a great day when the Sox beat the Cubs or a terrible one if we end up on the short end of the stick.

* In the SouthSideSox official All Star Balloting, Michael Young was named the DH as he beat out David Ortiz by one vote.  Here is the ballot for the Outfield.  Please select 3 for each league.  

* Gordon Beckham, Juan Pierre and Alex Rios look like they are coming around at least a little bit with the bat.  Come on Adam Dunn, we are all waiting for you.

* The Sox bullpen has been absolutely amazing lately.  With Brian Bruney stepping up, they now have 3 dependable righties and 2 dependable lefties.  The most impressive bullpen might reside on the South Side of Chicago.  Who would have thunk that after the horrible beginning they had?

* After these final 2 games with the Cubs, we have 7 against the Royals and Twins before the All Star Break.  I want 6 of these next 9. 

* Have a safe Holiday weekend.  Remember, being careless with fireworks might adversely affect your SouthSideSox experience.  So be careful.

Poll
During the Interleague play era, who has been the biggest Cub Killer?
Carlos Lee
71 votes
Jose Valentin
12 votes
A.J. Pierzynski
105 votes
Paul Konerko
34 votes
Other
7 votes

229 votes | Poll has closed

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Nice article, I forgot about some of those

Valentin’s mocking of Sosa seems poetic in retrospect. Cub fans were so pissed and would always defend and revere their slugger. Now when you bring up Sosa they deflect the comment and bring something else up. I do have a memory of Sosa from old comiskey of him throwing out a runner on deep fly to the wall. His throw was never more than ten feet off the ground and it didn’t bounce once. He had a gun and alot of gold chains. Alot of people forget his arm

they’re all made with beef that probably has bits of that gosh darn cow feces in it, gosh darn it - bobpuller

by Rhubarb on Jul 2, 2011 8:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I was huge fan of Sosa early in his career

I was so excited about the trade that brought him and Wilson Alvarez even though it was Harold leaving.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2011 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thx for cleaning up my mess dogg.

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Jul 2, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I always liked Sosa.

Back in 1990 I thought he was the next great white sox player. Then he got into it with Hriniak and eventually got shipped out. He did have an amazing arm- it wasn’t always controlled though. I remember a few times him firing it off of the backstop. I liked him on the Cubs when he became Babe Ruth too. He was a fun villain for Sox fans. I find it ridiculous how Cub fans act towards him now a days. He was the guy that was solely responsible for the rebirth of the Cubs. He should have his jersey retired.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 2, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the article...

I always enjoy articles with reminiscences of the past…. killer Cubs was a fun read. Do you know what we need? A killer Twins… The Indians will kill themselves, and I am not afraid of Tigers. They need pitching now that they demote Coke. I still think the Twins are very dangerous. Once Mauer heats up, they get Span (A notorious WhiteSox killer), that team can lift off….

If you chase two rabbits both will escape!

by JofpGallagher on Jul 2, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

The mention of the upcoming schedule is very important

We need to go on a tear. We are better than the Cubs, KC and Minn.

Sabermetrics hurt my head, just give me the facts.

by CATDADDY47 on Jul 2, 2011 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

.

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton

by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 2, 2011 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

i'm sick of these close games.

 i want a blowout. i want to see santiago pitch.

by larry on Jul 2, 2011 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

yah i agree. maybe with his screw ball we can have Santiago-Mania

like the dodgers had with fernando.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 2, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh....Fernando... One of my favorite pitchers of all times

I almost became a Dodgers fan just because of him. What great stuff he had. Short ML career, but un-hittable. I welcome a Santiago mania.

If you chase two rabbits both will escape!

by JofpGallagher on Jul 2, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

He played about 10 years with the Dodgers that were fantastic

then he got hurt his shoulder and traded to the Orioles or Angels? and he never was the same. He played for various years but I don’t think he played full seasons due to recurring shoulder injuries

If you chase two rabbits both will escape!

by JofpGallagher on Jul 2, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

emotion from larry?

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jul 2, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

quentin needs a mental health day.

or five.

sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.

by BuehrleMan on Jul 2, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quentin a a hitter of a week in complete fire

…and a 3 weeks of merciless suckitude will follow. I think he is in his 3 rd week of his previous week streak. He will come around next week.

If you chase two rabbits both will escape!

by JofpGallagher on Jul 2, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i voted for mike caruso.

sunshiney craig's comment about me has had the effect of rendering me too self conscious to maintain my public exhibition of ennui.

by BuehrleMan on Jul 2, 2011 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I had a nobody on my BMO team named Mario Caruso

I kept him because I figured he might be a cousin

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jul 2, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice read

brought back some good memories

where the white women at?

by parkernutws05 on Jul 2, 2011 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Humber contractual status?

Does anyone know if Sox have any contractual rights to Humber for next year or is he a free agent?

by ThanksDye on Jul 2, 2011 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

How exactly would he be a free agent?

pre arb.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 2, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

500k this year

so it would be 500k for two more years after this too right?

I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Jul 2, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

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