Stage is set for changes
by Jim Margalus on Jul 21, 2011 6:01 AM CDT
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PrintIn a way, it's almost good that the White Sox offense failed to help John Danks and the bullpen during Wednesday's 11-inning, 2-1 loss.
Had Matt Thornton and Jesse Crain been able to preserve the shutout, the story would've been Danks' triumphant return, a second straight series win inside the division, both of which are great.
But it would have overshadowed the critically flawed offense, which scored just eight runs over three games against Kansas City pitching -- and only five runs by their own doing (two runs scored after an Alcides Escobar error, and another after a blown call).
They faced the staff with the second-worst ERA in the American League. They faced three different pitchers -- a hard-throwing lefty, a soft-tossing lefty, and a historically awful right-hander. They managed just four hits and one cheap run off the Royals bullpen over 8 2/3 innings. Plainly put, the offense didn't experience any real kind of success against any one member of the second-worst pitching staff in baseball.
This would've been a problem even if they won 1-0, and thanks to the frustrating nature of the loss, Ozzie Guillen made everybody aware of it.
Now the question is whether anybody is going to back up the talk.
It's well past the time for action, because this has been the team's biggest problem all year. With their "effort" on Thursday, the White Sox are now averaging under four runs per game (3.98), including a cool 3.44 runs per game in July. Nobody can pin this one on the weather.
On Tuesday evening, Guillen offered the weakest support for Adam Dunn this season, which I called a figurative cry for help. On Wednesday, Jeff Passan shared a literal one, telling us that calling it quits has crossed Dunn's mind.
Then, following Wednesday's game, Guillen says:
"That’s the team we have all year long. … I talk (trash) because what I see. That’s all I see. Very bad. Nothing against Chen. Nothing against the Kansas City pitching staff. They’re good. They got a young ballclub. The way we go about our business here, horse(bleep). They can say whatever they want to say."
This would seem to signify that this off day could be an eventful one. Then again, when Guillen doesn't refer to anybody by name in his rants, it usually results in minor changes at most.
And if A.J. Pierzynski's attitude is reflective of the clubhouse's perspective:
"I thought we played well, we just didn’t get any hits," said Pierzynski, who was 0-for-4 and grounded into his 17th double play. "Chen pitched pretty well, and their bullpen has been strong for them all year.
"We didn’t have a whole lot of chances, hit into some double plays and scored one run. When you get five hits in 11 innings, it’s going to look that way."
... I would place my money on more of the same.
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I like Daryl van Schouwen's tape recorder better than Gonzales'
"Nothing more painful than losing the f—-ing game against Bruce Chen once again,’’ Guillen said. "That’s more painful than this one. F—-ing pathetic. No f—-ing energy. We just go through the motions. We take the day off instead of [today, a day off].’’
oh indeed
thanks for posting that
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 21, 2011 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Just 8 more losses in a row
and they’ll realize how much this teams sucks. BLOW IT UP.
This quote is a little bit more concerning
"No team is going to have energy every single day. You need to figure out how to get wins on those days. It’s tough. That’s the way it is. It’s not Opening Day every day, and you have to figure out on those days where you’re dragging how to get through.’’
Who gave this gem?
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
aj?
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 21, 2011 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
In doing my own research (gasp!) this was from Konerko.
Wow. That’s your team leader saying, “Weeeeeell…….” while shrugging. Wow.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
He said you still need to win.
It is what it is, no one is going to be 100% at any job they do every single day, when it’s 100 degrees out no less. He didn’t make excuses, he said they still need to win anyways. I’m fine with it.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
when i coach i know my team will have good days and bad days. the difference between good and .500 teams is that the good teams still find ways to win on their bad days
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Jul 21, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
My point is
It seems everyday there is no energy. I understand not being gung ho everyday, but going through the motions is different. And it’s not just because I think they are lazy. This is a defeatist quote.
This is a fucking excuse; "you have to figure out on those days where you’re dragging how to get through.’’ There are 64 games left. It looks as though they are at peace with where they are given everyones comments (except Ozzie). That doesn’t sit right with me.
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
For this "And it’s not just because I think they are lazy"
I meant to say “It’s not because I think they are lazy”
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
How does that suggest they are at peace?
He said they still need to win. He didn’t say it was OK to lose. He seemed to say the exact opposite. He was not OK with losing. He was saying, even on days when you feel like shit, you still need to get the job done, and they aren’t.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it's because he sounds like Eeyore
This quote, with AJ saying how he thought they played well just rubbed me the wrong way. And PK never said anything about winning in here or that he wasn’t ok with losing, just that they have to find a way to get through.
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
What?
You need to figure out how to get wins on those days.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering you didn't even read the quote, I don't know how to take you seriously.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just pissed off
There are 64 games left, this shit should be figured out by now
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
you'll be saying that same shit when there are 30 games left and we are still 4-5 games back
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Exactly
At best we are going to be two games below .500 after 100 games played. Hell, we could be in 4th after the weekend.
The Twins have been through hell this season, and yet, by playing NEW and YOUNG talent, they are crawling back.
Just sayin’.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
De Aza is an option, consider how awful
Pierre/Rios have been. He’s not young, but he’s at least new.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
You know what you could be right
but I am sick of having you people tell me this. Let me hold on to a shred of hope. Don’t ruin my summer. Do you people think you are bringing an original thought on this?
really?
i cant believe you, of all people, are succumbing to his, of all (unknown)people,’s comment.
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
I am succumbing to nothing
I’ve been hearing this garbage all season from misinformed idiots, whose twisted and fucked up thought process may actually get them to the truth in the end, despite the many detours around logic and reason.
by Rhubarb on Jul 21, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Much like the game of baseball.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
No, its not new
But the gambles haven’t paid off. I know KW won’t lose his head for this debacle, but, I as a fan surely do hope this changes his thinking.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
to which gambles are you referring?
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
I would guess
Peavy, Rios and Dunn. In that order.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
i wanna know what he thinks the gambles were
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
In a way, every free agent signing is.
You’re gambling that they’re going to continue their career stats, improve on them based on input from your own people or have a predictable decline. If something goes wrong, injury or horrendous slump, then you’ve kinda lost your gamble.
I’m arguing semantics, I will admit.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Peavy was CERTAINLY a gamble!
Hurt when you traded for him, had been hurt, moving from the NL to the AL and from the biggest/best pitchers park in the majors to a home run haven?! That’s totally a gamble.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
all true
but he was hurt with a not pitching related injury, was a proven pitcher with great stuff, former cy young. at the time it was a low risk high reward. to me, it wasnt a gamble
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Fair enough.
I was squarely against the Peavy trade from the first rumor.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I didn’t like the fact that he was injured, but his motion had me believing in 2008 that he was going to get hurt. Then there was the money. And yes, he won the Cy Young, but I’m going to be very weary of any pitcher other than Halladay, Verlander or Hernandez moving from a pitcher’s park to a hitter’s park.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
i was daydreaming about what it would be like
had they traded for doc as opposed to peavy. it was a nice five minutes.
the Sox' best gamble:
I shant be misled a second time
by Nordhagen on Jul 21, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
No, the Twins are playing AAA players
Revere is 23, but that is about it. They have had alot of injuries so they are forced to play people you have never heard of. That does not mean they are young though.
Casilla = 27
Plouffe = 29
Tolbert = 29
Butera = 27
Hughes = 26
Also, the Twins fucking suck. They are not a good team this year. Feel free to go become a Twins fan though.
just think what their record would be if we even split our games vs them
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
yeah it sucks
I just don’t want to hear about the how good the Twins are right now. Because they are not. The meatball flag has been flying high all year in Sox nation.
It is more obvious than ever that the Sox freak out whenever they play them. The majority of this team have (on the offensive side) been absolute head-cases this entire year.
no, what im saying is dont lose all your shit until we know what happens in the next 11 days
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Why 11 days?
We’ve been having the same problems since Game 4.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
trade dealine. emphasis was on ALL your shit
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
If you want to be mad.. so be it.
I just don’t know why you’d be mad about this.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
With all due respect, you are being a liiiiiiittle overdramatic here.
There is nothing wrong with Paulie’s quote. What do you want him to say? “We need to do a better job of going out there and kicking some ass, no more pussy shit, lets do this!” while he puts on a rambo bandana. You are being dumb about this.
he lacks da fiyah n da pashun!
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
I don’t want to see yelling and screaming. I don’t think that does anything. I’d prefer to see things happen.
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
That is not what you were saying
you took issue with the Paulie quote because you are pissed at the outcome last night.
I never said I wanted to see yelling or screaming
I would prefer to see something different happen. This quote, with AJ saying how he thought they played well rubbed me the wrong way. There is a big disconnect to between AJ saying they played well and PK saying they need to figure it out.
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
jesus christ.
look at your original post
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
I'm not backtracking
My rant was based off of PK’s quote.
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling all of you are Twins fans
and Cheat created this site just to piss me off. It is all an elaborate hoax isn’t it. My brother put you all up to this right? It has been in the works since 2004 right?
busy creating multiple SBN accounts
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
i decided yesterday its my response to anything absolutely denarded
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
As Stone Pony says:
“great hitters never give away an at-bat”. We have to many guys flailing away at the first or second pitch. Not working counts. Trying to hit pitcher’s pitches. That quote explains that it is a long season and of course somedays you aren’t going to have the energy, mental or physical, like you do on others. But, when you are playing against your division in crucial games and series that need to be won, you better get some focus. I’m not sure if the coaches aren’t getting through to these guys, or if they just aren’t doing their job. But, I will stress in my opinion, when teams or individuals appear to be going through the motions or losing focus, one way to correct that is a shakeup. Now more than ever, this team needs Viciedo.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 21, 2011 8:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Look at Bruce Chen's pitch count thru 8.
83 or something, iirc.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
and danks was 110 at least
against the freaking royals
when did bruce chen become the dragon? i dont watch this team everyday but i have seen enough to see these guys have 0 plate discipline and just swing at anything not over their head
not once last night did i see a guy willingly lay off a pitch and try and draw a walk. nope the dragon had taken over kauffman last night and the sox were his first of 1 victim
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 21, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
It seems to me that Ozzie Guillen needs to keep his mouth shut a bit more tightly. When you go off and insult people during a rant, especially by name, you’re going to make a huge amount of people angry.
Halloween World
by cartersally21 on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
jim id love to believe that they will make some moves
but for whatever reason they seem content to let these guys absolutely suck. i dont get it. they should have made a move june 1st. then i figured it would happen july 4th because of the service time crap. now its july fucking 21 and they still haven’t done anything. if there is a worst executive of the year award kenny williams should win in a landslide. how can he sit on his hands while rome burns? worse yet- the cubs will probably hire hahn at the end of the year. that will be a great fucking kick in the nuts.
i wish i could ban them. they aren’t worth watching. unfortunately i’m a dickhead and will tune in tomorrow.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Battered and abused wife syndrome?
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Jul 21, 2011 8:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We can share icepacks.
Cause you damn well know I’ll be putting the game on at least two screens at the restaurant.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Maquiavelic theory
KW is doing it on purpose to get rid of Guillen.
If you chase two rabbits both will escape!
by JofpGallagher on Jul 21, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
crazytalk, but there are probably people that think that.
if ozzie was to say he wanted the fighter of the nightman up, he would be up.
Part of me says "if not now, when?"
when it comes to the potential moves that can be made to improve the team. But then the other part of me remembers its almost deadline time, which means its time for Kenny to trade away a useful part for another reliever.
So on balance, I say stand the fuck pat. Because given how they’ve responded to the troubles of the offense, I’m not trusting them to do any bold moves.
I shant be misled a second time
by Nordhagen on Jul 21, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
should get make internal moves; somehow get de aza and dayan up
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
guess what
they aren’t going to win us the division either. It would be nice to see them but the people here now have to go through the motions of getting better.
thats a bunch of bullshit too.
if viciedo was up maybe he hits a home run yesterday and we win 2-1. its better than constructing a lineup with cocksucking omar vizqeul in it.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
it just pisses me off because there is no reason that he isn't on the team. its so stupid.
i just don’t get that it is THAT difficult to send down morel or dump lillibridge or vizquel. its insane!
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
probably... but at least they will have done something.
look what buster posey did for the giants last year. not saying viciedo is as good as posey is but christ if he could put in a little bit of life maybe others will wake up.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
im shocked he wasn't up 2 months ago.
or july 4th. or after the all star break. it just seems like they are content with doing nothing. it is really strange. this has been the teams problems since mid april. it isnt new. i hope he’s up tomorrow. i highly doubt it though.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
judging from their decision making lately
apparently they should.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I tend to trust what I read and hear from respected posters around here.
Jim, larry, JJ, the other editors on this site, all seem to think that trying at least one of those two up here in the minors would be a good move. Especially considering that we have players doing absolutely nothing up here holding them back. They are not going to carry the team though, that is for sure. At the very least it will give them some experience up here.
well, clearly the offense didn't lose the game last night.
the bullpen did. Great job, juicing the bases, Sale. Nice pitch there, Santos. This team clearly needs some better relievers to hide the awful offense.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
My favorite part of this Guillen rant
The bruise under his eye. We had to watch that crap too, but at least we can drink, eat burritos, and not get hit in the face with foul balls. Poor bastard.
Wut?
A manager who’s team isn’t hitting deserves to get hit in the face with a baseball as much as a billionaire who’s company hacked the phone of a murdered 13 year old girl deserves to get hit in the face with a cream pie? Ok…
trust no one, young grasshopper
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
don't forget, possibly conspired to commit murder
The key witness in the UK case was found dead two days ago. Odd timing.
yeah, but 815's spin is more tabloid
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 21, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
they killed the working man
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
I haven't heard anything about witnesses being present when he died
The police have said “no suspicious circumstances” but color me skeptical of that, especially considering that the Head of Scotland Yard (who are conducting the investigation) just quit because he was intercepting phone calls and accepting bribes for Rupert Murdoch.
But we are veering of course, agree to disagree.
I meant witnesses to the phone hacking, not the death
The dead guy isn’t a key witness because there are lots of witnesses. His claim to fame is blowing the whistle.
I'm with Ozzie. "Vamosa vino tinto" via twitter.
Which basically means I’m gonna go get drunk with red wine. He’s just acknowledging the fact that this team can’t be watched without booze.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 21, 2011 9:41 AM CDT reply actions
Vino Tinto is the Venezuelan Soccer National team
He was rooting for them. However, they lose the game vs Paraguay
by Gerry0587 on Jul 21, 2011 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the teams name is Red Wine?
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
Ozzie's finally applying the whip for the stretch run.
Benching Dunn.
Calling out the team.
We’ll see if they respond.
His statement that “I’m done protecting players” might mean he’s ready to agree to some of the roster moves Kenny has wanted to make.
Dunn to DL, goodbye Lilli, hello Tank and De Aza?
Baseball is life.
holy fuck
dunns not going to the dl
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
The Dunn to the DL has been given so much legitimacy by some of the Chicago media
people are speaking of it like the only reason it hasn’t happened is because the team is refusing to do so.
I'm unable to quantify
but it seems to me that he “calls out the team” at least once a year.
#shitmyteamsmanagersays
I shant be misled a second time
Don't stop there, Dunn-to-DL crowd
If we’re going to cheat, poison Jason Kubel’s food. Kidnap Matt Treanor’s family. Shoot Jason Verlander in the face. I don’t know, think big.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
*er, Justin
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
shooting his cousin will distract him too,
and it’ll look less conspicuous.
by craigws on Jul 21, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
There was something about Dunn's knee this morning on WBBM
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
I heard this on the Score as well.
Then there is also…….this……http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_adam_dunn_slump_quitting_072011
i think ballantini summed that thing up best
Passan’s “Dunn quitting” piece is written beautifully, like a prose poem. But the mettle of it, as Ozzie might say, is horse@($*
by larry on Jul 21, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I watched last night's game
And other than the pitching staff, it just looks like we don’t give a fuck or the players on this roster got bad in a hurry.
I say its time for a youth revolution. No more Omar, AJ, Rios (for the love of freakin’ God can he just go away) and I’m sorry to say, it’s time to trade Q!
Bring on the new guys. If they create any spark, we can still win this division.
WHAT NEW GUYS!?!?!
I can agree with not resigning Omar at the end of the year but there is no possible realistic method to get rid of Rios. AJ has been carrying alot of the hitters and we owe him a kings ransom for next year. We can’t fucking drop people. This kind of shit is getting ridiculous. Our minor leaguers will not inspire anyone either. Give it up.
There's been an invasion of stupid as of late.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
eh, i've seen worse.
also, i blame the dew point. wait until you see my rantings by the end of this week.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
I'm ranting
I thank all you people for bearing the brunt of my woe. Early this morning I came to peace with my woe, then I woke up.
Change needs to be made
You can’t just simply keep playing players that are underachieving. Its bad baseball, bad business. Right now everything within the White Sox organization makes zero sense AND we might be looking at an overhaul anyways come 2012 if Ozzie seriously considers making the move to manage the Marlins.
If you are fine with this team heading to a 79-83 record, cool.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I take it that the popular opinion is that we are eventually going to turn this around
Well, I will check back in after our home stand against Detroit, Boston, and New York.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
are you going to on a "I told yah so!"?
This team is four games back, they are not going to “blow it up” right now. I’d suggest you spend some time reading Larry’s posts on our minor league teams before you suggest a “youth movement”
*larry
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
I don't think dynamite could blow up this team anyway with the way our contract situations are
The only people who are tradeable are mostly the one you want around anyway.
just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they think things are fine and dandy.
could just be that what you are suggesting is asinine.
ill give your face a 7 and your asinine
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
...not that theres anything wrong with that
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
So you are fine with blowing it up and heading to a 69-93 record?
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not suggesting a blow up
If the Tank is hot right now, then you have to bring him up and see if he can create a spark.
We can win this division, I truly believe that, but the offense is a mess. We need some boost and hopefully this weekend we can look like the team we started off as on Opening Day, than this past series.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Or
Addition by subtraction.
Okay, don’t trade Q!, and AJ can hang around. But Rios needs to go.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
bench
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Jul 21, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
To the wavier wire
Hey, if Toronto did it, we can too.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Is telling this guy he is dumb considered a personal attack?
by joewho112 on Jul 21, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I won't take it as a personal attack, really
I know we are all pissed and everyone has their own idea of how to improve this team.
So its fine, you can call me dumb.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
youve been quite stupid for a long time today
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
dude, this isn't fantasy baseball.
you can’t just click “drop” player and see him gone on his merry way. Some team would have to be even more fucking retarded to claim Rios now than Kenny was since Rios is older and playing even worse now, for a longer period of time, than he was then.
If you want to cut him and eat his entire salary, so be it. Jerry and KW will never do that unless Rios goes on a murdering rampage, starts molesting children, or begins throwing out ethnic and racial slurs left and right to the media.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Blow-up sex dolls in the locker room seems to work too.
Win It For WU!
by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I saw a documentary on the Cleveland Indians and they used a cardboard cut out of their owner to motivate them
by joewho112 on Jul 21, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
is their owner a 12 year old cancer patient?
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
No, she's a bitchy lady that inherited the team from her husband
She wants to move the team to Florida
Let's change the subject to the third baseman and his psychic detective son
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
no-one will pick him up now, then you're left with a pissed off player
you still have to pay a shiteload of money too.
I know - the money thing
I get it. Seriously, I do. But in a good business just because you invested in something doesn’t mean you see it go to ruins. Cut your losses, take what you can, move forward.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you do though
Because putting him on the waiver wire will result in nothing but negative consequences. It is a dumb idea.
but do players even know when they are put on waivers?
I don’t think they do.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
i would imagine so
and a team can revoke the waiver right?
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
all players go through waivers.
also, there are different types of waivers.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Then bench him.
There has to be better options.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
That would be hilarious.
I don’t want to, but maybe we can trade Ozzie to Florida for prospects.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
even your jokes are utterly denarded
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
bench
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Jul 21, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I make the same face when I have balls in my hand
by joewho112 on Jul 21, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
thats a lot of balls
and I’ll take him
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
sounds like a mini-blowup
Omar, AJ, Rios (for the love of freakin’ God can he just go away) and I’m sorry to say, it’s time to trade Q!
So you’d dump a a bench player and three starters. You’re left with Flowers and Lucy at C, De Aza, Lillibridge or Jordan Danks in CF, Viciedo and Bridge in RF. Doesn’t sound like an improvement to me.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Have you seen Rios's line?
.212/.258/.307
Really? How can anyone NOT want Rios to get out of town.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Dude, Rios is a 10-ton albatross hanging around the organization's neck.
If the organization gets rid of him they’re going to have to eat most of his salary. So they’d be paying 10’s of millions of dollars for a player to play for someone else.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
im fine with that
we can win this year without that turd
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Jul 21, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
if it happens I'll take a dump in my Gamecocks hat signed by George Rogers.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Currently -
Waive Rios. Move Lillibridge to CF. If Dunn is truly going to get out of this slump, you need to play him everyday whether its DH, 1B, or RF. Or bring up Dayan and put him in a rotation with Q! and Dunn.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
jesus christ. they can't waive rios. its not going to happen.
and lillibridge is worse than he is anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Well they both suck
And I’m taking the guy who kinda sucks less right now.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Why are defending Rios?
Seriously, there is no angle that you can approach his play without saying it sucks.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
No one is defending Rios' play, but the idea that you can just
‘get rid of him’ is ludicrous.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yea-ah
Rhubarb loves Rios and his poor play.
Rhubarb and Rios sittin in a tree….
I shant be misled a second time
by Nordhagen on Jul 21, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
F-U-C-K-HAVE-ING-SEX
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
by BoeJouma on Jul 21, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
monkey sex
gimme them toes sand dancer
by Rhubarb on Jul 21, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
listen bro...or chick... or whatever you are...
they can’t cut rios. he makes too much money. they also can’t trade him because of said money. its not like fantasy where you can just say eh fuck him and dump him. it isn’t going to happen. its not that we don’t think rios blows. he absolutely does. but its unrealistic to dump him.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
True
Money rules all things. But just because you pay the guy, doesn’t mean you have to play him.
I know its horrible business, but at some point you have to cut your losses and move on.
.565 OPS – ugh
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
(Sigh). It was a miracle that the Blue Jays found someone to take Rios off their hands
in the first place. No GM in baseball is going to take on Rios’ deal. Unless the Sox were to pay most of it, which doesn’t get you anywhere anyway.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Well - The Pirates are looking for players
#nochanceinhell
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Rios for McCutchen.
Steak dinner. Boom.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
If that happened
McCutchen would jump the shark and start batting .230
But hey, it would be an upgrade.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Rios can play LF, RF,...
Pinch Hitter. Whatever.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
playing him is another story. you can bench him.
but if you’re going to bench him for lillibridge it doesn’t do you any good. might as well stick with rios and see if he can capture any of his old magic.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
ok fine. sounds good to me...
but if you think de aza is going to set the world on fire you are mistaken too. hes dwayne wise.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
dwaynes career ops is 628. that would be a welcomed addition to this club. lol
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
so sad yet so true
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
oh yeah right
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
slydernelson
Even if you think the chance of Rios bouncing back is fairly low, you cannot cut him. He’s a 30-year-old who has played plus centerfield defense and hit decently in his career. He is owed 40-some million dollars. Even if there is only a small chance of him rebounding, that chance is worth waiting for.
Even if you’re pessimistic about his chances, you absolutely cannot cut that much of the investment just yet. If it was 2013 or 2014, it might be on the table. But not now.
Just bench him. All you gain by cutting him is a roster spot. A roster spot is not worth that much money. There are cheaper busted investments they can drop first.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Okay.
Then bench his sorry ass. I would rather see Dunn in the lineup, than Rios.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
viciedo
duh
Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun
i saw the high comment count and could smell the carnage so
I took a different road through the internet this morning to save my piece of mind.
Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun
I just said the same thing above you. hrmph
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Tigers DFA Inge
The guy played 11 years for the Tigers. Still plenty of Inge jerseys. I am sure the organization didn’t like doing it, but they did it to improve the team. If only the Sox could do something similar.
I want to say he is hitting like .166
Also, before anyone posts anything, we do not need to be reminded of Dunn’s avg and its similarity… we know
only player with worse stats that inge is figgins
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
inge provided one of the biggest jokes of any home run derby I've ever seen.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
imagine if figgins had been there instead!
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
brutal
but he had mono this year. That is very tough to come back from. I had a hard time working after I “recovered”. I can’t imagine playing baseball everyday with zero energy. I actually feel bad for him.
hmm maybe he could dh for us. he's hitting 20 points higher than dunn
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
this news will make mrs. buehrleman very happy.
she despises him.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Hardest team in professional sport to cheer for
The whitesox really are, they wont give us the satisfaction of being good or bad they will just linger in the middle constantly teasing never pleasing and always frustrating the hell out of everyone of us.
I would like to take the next 7 or 8 games and hope for all wins or all losses so by the deadline this team has an idea of what to do, but who are we kidding they will continue to play mediocre close to 500 ball in a division where its justified to stay in the race while playing that way and do a whole lot of nothing.
Disagree
It’s way worse if yours is a POS team. You’d really rather cheer for the Pirates, who get one season of .500 ball in a decade?
cubs and pirates fans
they know what their in for, we dont, if you know your never going to win its not that hard to deal with, the sox occassionally convince us they can win then tear that hope and feeling away
I don't buy that. Fans don't cheer for their team with resignation.
They want their team to win every bit as bad as we do, only with less of a chance to do so. That sucks far more. I’ve had friends since childhood who were Reds or Pirates fans, the step-family all cheer for the Royals. Almost every year we get to give a shit about baseball in July, August, even if it’s frustrating – it’s way more frustrating basing your hopes around the LaRoche family.
No.. they really don't. This year, possibly.
They knew the team would be terrible, but going into the year the last decade, each year they’ve had just as good a chance to win the world series as we have.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
statistically speaking, no they havent
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
What? The Cubs are nothing like the Pirates.
They went to the playoffs multiple times in the last decade.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 21, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
in that case
they’ve been eliminated every year for a hundred and two and counting.
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 21, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
C'mon
We’re not even the hardest MLB team in Chicago to cheer for right now…
Baseball is life.
by elgonzo4sox on Jul 21, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'd much rather be a sox fan than a sacramento kings fan
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Jul 21, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Coop hung up on a radio show today when they asked about Dayan
by Bent Over Beckham on Jul 21, 2011 10:41 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Just the link. This is where I found out.
by Bent Over Beckham on Jul 21, 2011 10:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
why would he answer a question about a AAA hitter he will never coach?
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Mully's actually a somewhat optimistic Sox fan
Hanley is a depressed Cubs fan who wants to continually drag the Sox down to the Cubs level so he will have company in his misery.
Baseball is life.
any of you hear cooper get pissed and hang up on the score?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/coop-follows-suit-goes-on-his-own-rant/
the audio is on there
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I have nothing to add about the offense other than expletives and spittle-flecked rants, so I made this for everyone, merry christmas
by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 21, 2011 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 12 recs
Insta-rec
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
i posted this yesterday
only it was too big so it was cloaked
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
yyyyyyeeessssssssssss
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Can't belive we're not talking about Greg Walker right now.
Fire him, and we’ll get above .500.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 21, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
Put him on the DL and bring Viciedo up as the hitting coach.
Little Bighorn. Classic small sample size. -Skancho Danza
by keystone connection on Jul 21, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
HEY. LOOK DOWN HERE.
NO ONE IS GOING TO CLAIM RIOS OFF WAIVERS.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
That crazy GM on Chicago's South Side might!
…..wait….what?
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm very confused about where this thread is headed, or we talking dewpoint?
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.
Back Up The Truck
Kenny should load up the truck: Peavy Dunn Rios Pierre Jackson and drive off the cliff with him in it!!
.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
looks like another wasted 75-85 win season
bloated payroll with a bunch of lazy bum vets. the recipe for disaster. mediocrity at its finest. a couple more injuries and bad seasons and we become the knicks of baseball during their dark days with isiah thomas
good thing we dont give away 1st round picks for nothing though. oh wait what was that Mr. “I feel like retiring right now”?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 21, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions
Can someone shine the Larry light?
This thread needs him, stat!
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.
*larry
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
way to go, fellas.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 11:09 AM CDT reply actions
you know, i really do love this site
not only can a group of educated baseball fanatics come and discuss, argue, hang out, make friends and share toughts, but it houses many different types of people. those who are snarky, witty, dumb, or just people wanting to learn and talk about white sox baseball. even on days like today, after a loss so horrible that we all want to cunt punch each others mothers, it a place where people can vent out their frustrations, shed light on situations or just plain bicker back and forth. i dont know about you but even though i want to slap a few bitches in this particular thread, i am truly grateful for for having the ability to want to do so.
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
by BoeJouma on Jul 21, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You still going to go out and slap some bitches though?
Keep yo’ pimp hand strong, son.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Last 30 Days from MLB.com
Pierre .333/.381/.787
Beckham .316/.349/.742
AJ .270/.341/.720
Q! .263/.329/.737
Konerko .256/.357/.735
Teahen .244/.279/.694
Morel .224/.258/.482
Ramirez .216/.278/.631
Rios .216/.250/.511
Vizquel .214/.241/.456
Lillibridge .200/.250/.450
Dunn .099/.190/.401
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
this team is slugging the fuck out of the ball
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
That has to be OPS and not SLG
by Bent Over Beckham on Jul 21, 2011 11:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I have no idea what half the acronyms in this place mean.
by Bent Over Beckham on Jul 21, 2011 11:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The meme glossary on the right rail is available for perusing at your leisure
And TTJ = “that’s the joke” and it is a sucky meme
You sarcastic bastards
by Bent Over Beckham on Jul 21, 2011 11:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It is a sucky meme. I detest it.
It’s pre-meditated whoshing. Whoshing in the first degree. That’s TTJ.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
dunn's hits seem to have went a lot further than i remembering them doing.
must’ve hit those homers at least 800 feet to earn the bonus slugging points.
When I look at Dunn's line I can't help myself and laugh
Poor guy.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
dude has an IOS of .403!
the fuck is wrong with that???
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
am i getting whoshtrapped?
the fuck is going on?
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Career Lines (3rd line is OPS-I didn't clarify)
(including this season)
Pierre .297/.346/.710
Beckham .258/.325/.726
AJ .284/.324/.745
Q! .253/.349/.840
Konerko .282/.357/.858
Teahen .266/.329/.741
Morel .240/.263/.583
Ramirez .280/.323/.749
Rios .276/.325/.759
Vizquel .273/.338/.691
Lillibridge .212/.281/.629
Dunn .245/.376/.885
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Help me again shoeless!!!
(honestly) I’m sorry for the suckyness of this post. I still haven’t figured out how to make spaces in order to make legible.
I had intended on having both lines in the same post. I suck at this!
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
career vs last 30 days
Player OBP SLG OPS vs last 30 days: OBP SLG OPS Pierre .297 .346 .710 .333 .381 .787 Beckham .258 .325 .726 .316 .349 .742 AJ .284 .324 .745 .270 .341 .720 Q! .253 .349 .840 .263 .329 .737 Konerko .282 .357 .858 .256 .357 .735 Teahen .266 .329 .741 .244 .279 .694 Morel .240 .263 .583 .224 .258 .482 Ramirez .280 .323 .749 .216 .278 .631 Rios .276 .325 .759 .216 .250 .511 Vizquel .273 .338 .691 .214 .241 .456 Lilli .212 .281 .629 .200 .250 .450 Dunn .245 .376 .885 .099 .190 .401
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no, OBP SLG OPS.
it says so right above, lol.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
oh. right.
wait, what numbers did he give me?
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, BA OBP OPS.
I wasn’t really paying attention either, just formatted them. Fail on my part.
Who gives BA, OBP, and OPS anyway? Why do that? If you’re going to give a triple slash line give BA, OBP, and SLG or OBP, SLG, OPS
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhhh...dammit
post fial
it is AVG/OBP/OPS. I meant to state AVG/OBP/SLG but I ’d read in previous posts OPS is king.
Here’s the MLB.com link
I swaer I geet bttr…
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
just giving you some flak.
in the future, type <"pre"> and <“/pre”> around the area you want charted, without the quotes, obviously. You’ll just have to space the numbers out and click on preview to get it right. Space out, preview, space out some more, preview, etc. When you’re satisfied, click post. If there’s an easier way, I don’t know it.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, BA OBP OPS.
I wasn’t really paying attention either, just formatted them. Fail on my part.
Who gives BA, OBP, and OPS anyway? Why do that? If you’re going to give a triple slash line give BA, OBP, and SLG or OBP, SLG, OPS
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
there, better?
Player AVG OBP OPS vs last 30 days: AVG OBP OPS Pierre .297 .346 .710 .333 .381 .787 Beckham .258 .325 .726 .316 .349 .742 AJ .284 .324 .745 .270 .341 .720 Q! .253 .349 .840 .263 .329 .737 Konerko .282 .357 .858 .256 .357 .735 Teahen .266 .329 .741 .244 .279 .694 Morel .240 .263 .583 .224 .258 .482 Ramirez .280 .323 .749 .216 .278 .631 Rios .276 .325 .759 .216 .250 .511 Vizquel .273 .338 .691 .214 .241 .456 Lilli .212 .281 .629 .200 .250 .450 Dunn .245 .376 .885 .099 .190 .401
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
thanks once again shoeless
you need to educate me on how to do this.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
nice
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
Ummm I'm gonna read the directions completely next time
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
would it help if I tell you I work for IKEA?
(I don’t, but it could help with the confusion)
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Since ba is the most important stat, clearly...
the best course of action is to DFA everyone but Pierre and Beckham.
Little Bighorn. Classic small sample size. -Skancho Danza
by keystone connection on Jul 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Take away of thread so far...
WSox offense is putrid,
WSox are satisfied with being putrid,
several WSox players need to be driven off of a cliff in a truck with Kenny driving,
Rhubarb loves Rios,
Ozzie is pissed, but maybe not pissed enough,
Coop is pissed and really hates The Tank,
and the dewpoint is “6” but someone else thinks it’s “7.”
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.
by greenlight on Jul 21, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
He's The Prisoner, damnit.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
wont happen
pimptank will be here for a while.
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
We're all StringerBell, waiting for Avon to get out.
We got a weak-ass product and them towers is startin’ to slip, yo’.
Plus, given WU and mine’s summer droughts, we ain’t even got no shorty to mack on.
Damn.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i feel like i just got skull fucked
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
lets not forget
wallace(dunn) and d’angelo(rios) aint standing tall for the organization. luckily for string he was able to do away with both of them. reinsdorf: i dont know how drunk KW will be when he tries to crack the news to him
then cocksuscker omar(twins) keep lurking around ready to jack the stash everytime we meet up
We need a hamsterdam in here ASAP. and anybody that starts to play good and gets traded wont be able to claim no entrapment either
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 21, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, the offense sure is playing like Number Two
by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 21, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's your second rec from me today.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
scatalogical Prisoner reference
way to lay a McGoohan.
So I see I have to do actual work this morning
and everyone has lost their mind.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Sup WSI I just wanted to share with you how the White Sox could fix their current problems: My 100% Fool-Proof Strategy
The White Sox need to outright cut the following players for the following reasons:
Alexei Ramirez: He is lazy and makes bad errors that cost the team, plus he can’t bunt.
Carlos Quentin: He is streaky and unclutch. Time to give him the boot.
Paul Konerko: He is too old and his career is over. He just did nothing against the Royals. It is just time to part ways with him.
AJ Pierzynski: He just doesn’t call a good game anymore or the White Sox would be winning.
Gordon Beckham: He is a bust, he was supposed to hit .350 and he can’t even manage .250, get rid of him now.
Brent Lillibridge: He doesn’t even play shortstop anymore, what is the point?
Tyler Flowers: He doesn’t even have a hit, he will never be any good.
Mark Teahen: What is his deal, he was supposed to be the answer at 3B. Get him gone.
Brent Morel: If this is his rookie year I don’t want to see his sophomore slump. Bye bye, Brent.
Juan Pierre: When we got him I thought he was going to be a center fielder but he mostly plays left, which is lame. Plus he’s also terrible at stuff. Gone.
Omar Vizquel: He never should have worn Aparicio’s number. That’s just wrong.
Alex Rios: He has only ever cared about money and he doesn’t even try. When he took that hammock out to center field and took a nap during the game it was just too far.
Adam Dunn: He sucks now and he always has, his previous numbers were just inflated by the inferior national league. You can’t trust anyone who has been on a team where pitchers hit.
Edwin Jackson: His pitching isn’t very precise for someone who claims to have been born in Germany. What else is he lying about?
Phillip Humber: There’s a reason he was on waivers, he sucks. He’s stopped winning already, get rid of him before it’s too late.
Mark Buehrle: When he wins 30 games he can do whatever he wants in the offseason, he needs to spend less time playing with animals and more time buffing up. At his salary he should look like Atlas.
Gavin Floyd: Everyone keeps saying he’s good but I think he looks goofy. Not a competitor, get him gone.
Jake Peavy: His many unrelated injuries show that he’s probably going to be paralyzed within three months. Let someone else deal with it.
John Danks: He doesn’t know how to win, and he has a southern accent which is a strong indicator of laziness and incompetence.
Sergio Santos: We need someone who is lights out all the time, not most of the time. Plus his name is too close to Ron Santo. Try him at shortstop again I guess.
Jessie Crain: Crainwreck. Enough said.
Matt Thornton: Not closer material at closer money. Cut him.
Chris Sale: He’s too skinny to pitch in the majors. If our food isn’t good enough for him he can walk back to wherever he’s from. Probably california, everyone out there has one of those body image things.
Will Ohman: Even the Cubs didn’t want him. Get out, Ohman.
Brian Bruney: He looks like he wants to be on one of those stupid tv shows about alaska. Step it up a notch and ship him to siberia.
Cut all the coaching staff and front office too, they hired this junk team. Can Jerry for funding it. Replace everyone with players from the twins and royals, clearly they are far superior to our team. Meanwhile I am going to pursue my true calling and become a fan of the yankees. I suggest you all do the same.
by mechanical turk on Jul 21, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 18 recs
What about Castro and Pena?
Don’t let those bums on the DL off the hook. They oughta be the first ones gone!
because you are goofy
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
the only ones out of line are ramirez, konerko, santos and crain.
the rest are about spot on.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Needs more murder
by Bent Over Beckham on Jul 21, 2011 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This was my favorite
Chris Sale: He’s too skinny to pitch in the majors. If our food isn’t good enough for him he can walk back to wherever he’s from. Probably california, everyone out there has one of those body image things.
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
i liked the 'sup WSI' best
Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun
by e-gus on Jul 21, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You, sir
are a damn genius.
Little Bighorn. Classic small sample size. -Skancho Danza
by keystone connection on Jul 21, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
"Brent Morel: If this is his rookie year I don’t want to see his sophomore slump. Bye bye, Brent."
classic
who is he talking about
or, who is talking?
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
wow.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it means,
“We’re All In Deep Doo-Doo.”
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!
I prefer,
“We’re All In Derp Derp”
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 21, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
It's hard to be all in
When all you have is 50 cents
by notoneyguillen on Jul 21, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
And you can't get a dollar
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
Follow me on twitter @michaelcaserno and read my blog, it sucks but its fun
"neck-deep"
keeping the chin up for those last gasps of air before the chest caves in and the lungs collaspe
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 21, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
U-God might flag this under the "no sexy pictures" rule.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jul 21, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Why is he sticking his hand thru that fur coat?
I’m willing to bet it cost a lot.
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
i had a horse picture too for mine
but i dont think 17 inch horizontal pictures can fit
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 21, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Few things are more fun.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Jul 22, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just want everyone to know, this thread provided most excellent material for my morning constitutional.
Thank You all. Especially you, slydernelson.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jul 21, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions
You're welcome
Guess what, the Milwaukee Brewers are looking for a CF.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/nl-central-notes-gomez-hendry-pence-wandy.html
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
give em 15 million and rios for one race of rick hahn as the bratwurst.
Andy Sisco has spent the last four years in a hospital bed with liquid fire shooting through his veins and small-town malcontent Jim Margalus has nothing to offer him but scorn. ~ big_fun
Done and done.
I just had a co-worker (Huge Brewer fan) ask how Rios has been playing this season.
I guess when the Pirates are on your tail, you get desperate.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the Brewers are more "All In" than we are
They have mortgaged their future and the children’s future for this season. I don’t think they can get Beltran, but maybe good ole KW can relive the glory days of that Scotty P/ Carlos Lee trade.
Instead this time it will be Rios/tons of Cash for prospects to be named later.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the Brewers are fresh out of prospects
Not that they’d even want Rios and the required extra player Stacks O’Cash.
by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 21, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
White Sox Baseball:
Alex Rios is so bad, we won’t even ask for beer in return for taking him.
Matter of fact….we’ll buy you a beer.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 21, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
If you were a GM would you pay 40 million for Alex Rios right now?
I wish you were right, but they are just not going to do this.
We would have to eat the cost
Like the deal they made with K-Rod. At least he would be out of our hands.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
If you were a GM would you pay 40 millions for Alex Rios right now?
I wish you were right, but you are not. You are just going to have to accept that Alex Rios will not be going anywhere… denial is a stage of grieving… I understand, its okay.
What is the last stage again?
Denial – Someone will pick up Rios from the Wavier Wire
Anger – Why the fuck is he still starting?
Bargaining – “We trade Rios, plus 15 million for Craig Counsel”
Depression – “Doug Melvin says the price is too steep”
Acceptance – “We are fucking stuck with him”
Okay, I should be good now.
And while playing GM with my fellow Brewer fan co-worker, I offered Rios + 15 million for Counsel, Nyjer Morgan, and prospect to be named later. He wouldn’t bite.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Someone said insanity means you keep doing the same thing and expect a different result
It’s OK for us fans to keep cheering on the same team considering they are only 4.5 back.
But its not OK for the team to not do anything about the current situation.
-Adam Dunn should quit if he’s going to talk like that
-Don Cooper should be more respectful of radio hosts doing their job
This season has been a tough one. Its not like 07 where the team sucked the majority of the year. It’s like we waiting in line to get inside the club with all the hot women, but the line outside doesn’t move. And once we get in the club, the hot women don’t want us. So we have to leave, but for some reason we get back in line again.
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
Follow me on twitter @michaelcaserno and read my blog, it sucks but its fun
you are insane for saying "insanity means you keep doing the same thing and expect a different result"
by Rhubarb on Jul 21, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cheech and Chong on insanity
BALIFF: “You are hereby charged that, on the night of September 14th, you did willfully, with malice and forethought, sexually assault a 14 year old girl. How do you plead?”
LESLIE HORWINKLE: “Insanity”
BALIFF: “Insanity?”
LESLIE HORWINKLE: “That’s right, insanity….I’m just crazy about that girl…”
"Yeah, it would be nice to get it going a little before the All-Star break." - Adam Dunn on his less-than-stellar year thus far (7/7/11)
Yes but I am correct
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
Follow me on twitter @michaelcaserno and read my blog, it sucks but its fun
Nope I'm not correct?
Well friend, that’s just insane
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
Follow me on twitter @michaelcaserno and read my blog, it sucks but its fun
My take is I want the Twins in the mix. They have too many games with Detroit
and Clev for me to want them as scrubs. If you look at each team’s roster and its potential replacements its still the White Sox roster I’d rather have. Find a way to get Dayan and De Aza up, while adding a modest bat. Tweak tweak and then tweak again.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
the WHOLE thing?!
"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 21, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Start holding back paychecks
like the Lake County Fielders and you’ll start seeing a performance improvement:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-lake-county-fielders-players-20110721,0,417499.story
"Yeah, it would be nice to get it going a little before the All-Star break." - Adam Dunn on his less-than-stellar year thus far (7/7/11)
by tailgater on Jul 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You don't need a link.
Best idea of July.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!
The play by play guy went off yesterday
Basically said that they players were not being given money for food, hotels, extra baggage charges. Coaches were having to pay for players out of there own pocket because the team was going hungry.
He thought he was CM Punk!!!!
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
Follow me on twitter @michaelcaserno and read my blog, it sucks but its fun
sox run scoring distro this season
15- 1 (opening day)
10- 3
9- 3
8- 8
7- 3
6- 10
5- 10
4- 12
3- 45
2- 13
1- 14
0- 7
I can't believe I read this whole thing.
What the hell is wrong with me?
~~~ 1/3 of the games two runs or less.
Putrid.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!
to ruffster
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!
who'd a thunk that the top # (by far) would be 3 runs... half the games-- sox score 3
tempted to compare to 1967 Sox….
Something is wrog w/ those #'s rs.
too many hgames.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!
Something is wrong w/ the spelling bb..
not enough n’s.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO YOU WHITE SOX!!!!!
doh, my mistake
here’s the right table with wins and losses as my act of penance
Runs total w l
0 7 0 7
1 14 2 12
2 13 1 12
3 15 7 8
4 12 6 6
5 10 7 3
6 10 9 1
7 3 2 1
8 8 7 1
9 3 3 0
10 2 2 0
15 1 1 0
total 98 47 51
huh, whodve thought the fewer runs you score the fewer games you win
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Last 30 days in Other areas
24 games
12-12 record
74 RBI’s
82 runs scored
82 runs against
14 HR
46 extra base hits
41-193 w/RISP
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Well, we are at least breaking even.
.212 BA RISP is alarming.
by slydernelson on Jul 21, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
this team is so unclutch
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
insofar as being unable to hit ever
makes them unclutch
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
also true.
but i do believe there is such a thing as a clutch hitter. i was one in little league for christ sakes.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
there is, it's just a crazy small effect
such that it takes heaps and heaps of data for it to show up consistently. i’ve linked a bunch of times to that post about Omar being a clutch hitter. but being clutch just means he hits better in those situations than he normally hits. that’s not to say he’s suddenly a good hitter.
which is my point.
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
I'm stating average & that's all.
This team is about what the lines say. Too bad the pitching has been solid for most of the year. If most the Sox players could hit above their lines, it would be a different race. That is what is frustrating us all.
Take a look at this link from Yahoo if you have time. Most of the lines with hitting are around average with the rest of the league except when you select situational.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
they're significantly below average in the American League
they’re not one of the 3 truly wretched outfits, but they are still definitely bad.
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
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