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KW: "Rios taking back seat"

Edit: LHP Trever Miller rumored to be coming to White Sox from St. Louis via Toronto. He's been really, really bad this year.

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I think its an ok move, depends on the prospect

got out from salary, but we shouldnt have had the salary in the first place

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Complaint!!!!!

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by soxrule!35 on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

rescinded.

I like Stewart.

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by soxrule!35 on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Trading for Jackson

Ranks right up there with trading for Swisher. Glad we could dump Teahen though.

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by rmensch on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

in 2010 was their top prospect according to BA, slipped to 5th this season
Background:The fourth trade acquisition among the first five players on this list, Stewart came to the Blue Jays along with Edwin Encarnacion and Josh Roenicke in a mid-2009 deal that sent Scott Rolen to the Reds. Cincinnati broke him into pro ball as a reliever in 2008, started him at the beginning of 2009 and shifted him back to the bullpen shortly before the trade in an effort to keep his innings down. Toronto kept him in the rotation to finish 2009. Stewart returned to the rotation in 2010, and he pitched well in Double-A.

Scouting Report: Stewart works with two plus pitches in his fastball and slider. His fastball sits in the low 90s and routinely reaches 95-96 mph, featuring above-average sink. His mid-80s slider has depth and misses bats. The slider sits in the mid-80s and is a good swing-and-miss pitch with depth. He commands both pitches well. Stewart also developed some feel for a changeup last season, and it has the potential to become an average offering. With a third effective pitch to go with his durability, Stewart could become a mid-rotation starter.

The Future: Stewart is in the mix to win a big league rotation spot in 2011. If he can’t cut it as a starter, he has the stuff and makeup to become a set-up man or a closer.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2011/2610894.html

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

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by RWShow on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

he pooty goo, no?

I woulda thought them taking on teahen money was the main sox benefit.

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

id say hes pretty freakin decent

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not a particular fan.

he was 25 and in AA and not putting up particularly impressive numbers. he’s a reliever, i guess.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

sorry, 24.

and he was repeating AA.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell yes!

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 27, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

sig'd

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by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

SkanchoDanza is a Sig machine.

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by keystone connection on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

true story

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what to think

Nobody knows exactly what happened with the STL-Rasmus deal. I guess the farm caught up with KW again and he didn’t have the ammo to pull off the deal. Toronto does, along with E-Jax.

I’m mad because we ultimately traded Hudson and Holberg for Fraser and a soon to be known prospect.

I’m worried that this is the first domino to fall and KW will gut the team. Worried because with his trading record lately, I’m scared that he will get fleeced for all our big trade chips.

by jimmyjr on Jul 27, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

perhaps jim should repost his hudson/holmberg posts

apparently not everyone got the memo the 6th time around

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it looks any worse than it did before.

Dealing Hudson for Jackson was stupid, but if anything Phil Humber made Jackson expendable. Who can say if this is the best Kenny could get for Jackson, but he managed to dump Mark Teahen, so I’m satisfied.

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by mikecws91 on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The original trade of Getz and Fields for Teahen was not a bad move.

The bad move was signing him to an extension.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

OH NO!!!

We lost Getz and Fields!!! They were going to be great I tell you! Great! Fields is having an amazing season this year (at AAA Colorado Springs).

It really hurts that we lost those two.

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by Hazymania on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

for Japan.

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by RWShow on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

he was the earthquake

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't know that

Just did a quick look at BR. I remain corrected.

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by Hazymania on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's big in Japan.

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by South Side Expat on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have no idea how much they cheered those bus rides from the airport

with their “100 bottles of beer on the wall” sing-a-longs.

That silence gets pretty thick.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why you keep saying this

wasn’t that a deal for Teahen? I don’t care about those players anyway.

by jimmyjr on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

in my Teahen memorial, I'm going miss how we never fully learned how to spell his name

doing site searches on Teahen/Teahan, I find he’s got a 10.6% misspell rate. I would have thought that was unsustainable, but no.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Jul 27, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i used teehans, dont forget that one!

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

balls!

That’s gonna throw it off.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

cockpot

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

teabag

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hilter

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by greenlight on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

we've all just been slapped in that face by the white sox organization.

so far. i have hope that this turns in to something useful, but im not seeing it

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

How? DeAza isn't an improvement over Rios?

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

how have we?

a salary dump shouldn’t exactly be a shock. and replacing rios with de aza is a positive thing

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by whitesoxmatt on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

finally! can’t win anything with him in there. plays with no heart.

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by rmensch on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

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by rmensch on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought...

Rios was already IN the back seat? He’s sure not driving this bus.

by talkendo on Jul 27, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey e-gus

Frasor is an OFHS alumni. Now the Sox need to trade for Tim Brydak.

by southsideirish on Jul 27, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah, thats pretty cool.

I believe he was friends with MacFarlane’s little brother.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is kind of weird

Toronto has to have a deal in place to send Edwin elsewhere, it makes no sense for them to take rental guy.

Don’t mind it from our end though, Stewart’s a solid near-ready prosepct and it’s abundantly clear that management wanted another righty arm in the pen who is better than Bruney, and they got it.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 27, 2011 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

kw just said hes putting in players to help win and that he doesnt care about salary

good trade then, kenny

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Its too bad when you have to make deals

to save a few bucks because you have already blown several hundred mil of the bosses money.

by stanfordron on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Jason Frasor went to Oak Forest high school.

So I like that part of it.
Getting rid of Teehans is ok.

Zach Stewart is even a pretty good pitcher.

From John Sickel’s “The Baseball Prospect Book 2011”:

I was very optimistic about Zach Stewart heading into 2010, to the point of ranking him one notch ahead of Kyle Drabek on most of my prospect lists. This was unconventional, since most experts liked Drabek better. It made sense to me at the time, but Stewart has slipped a little in my mind, enough to where I now agree with conventional wisdom, though I still like him a lot. Sterart gets his sinker up to 93-95 MPH on his best days, and mixes it with an above average slider. His main goal in 2010 was to improve his change up, and he had moderate success with this…. He didn’t get as many ground balls last year, his GO/AO going to 1.27 after sitting at 2.06 in ‘09. His home run rate also spiked up from his previous norms, and he didn’t pick up strikeouts at the same rate when used as a starter compared to his campaign in relief. I am still a fan of Stewart and continue to regard him as a B+ prospect, but there is enough uncertainty here that he drops down the top 50 list several spots.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

i live in oak forest and that doesn't do anything for me

i remember when everyone loved mackowiak even though he sucked balls because he went to oak lawn high school. i remember me yelling at him and someone turning around and saying “how can you yell at him he went to oak lawn high school take it easy”… and i said “what the fuck do i care where he went to fucking high school”

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

except ssi and i went to oak forest

BENGALS!

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jul 27, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

class of 93

but frasor probably struck you out.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol. only if he has a good curve ball.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm an al bundy/kenny powers love child.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

and hes a good reliever

i rather have him than Bruney out there, thats for sure.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok... but bruney has not been bad. so maybe he just does what bruney has been doing.

and is more likely to keep that up. thats fine i suppose. i just think if we were going to dump jackson we could have gotten someone better… though the main part of this trade is they took teahen.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

When the Sox were in SEA in May, Lilli was playing right field and some guy was heckling the crap out of him.

Other fans pointed out that he was from Everett and it shut him up.
I think there is something to be said about supporting your local guy. It doesn’t make up for extreme sucking a la Mackowiak, but it should at least get you a boo-free pass in the hometown.

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by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well next time we're in SEA

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by Kyle321N on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Goldstein doesn't think as highly of him

https://twitter.com/#!/Kevin_Goldstein/status/96249672477327362

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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

you consider this transaction alone as a white flag?

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 27, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kidding, right? Upgrade in CF, probable upgrade over Bruney (though I'm not convinced), No Teebag salary next year.

Doesn’t hurt this year as I see it.
Though I’d rather have Jackson than Humber the rest of the way.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

i agree w/ you on all points

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, in Humber we trust now

not too crazy about that.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

colin weeps in a corner

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by whitesoxmatt on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

good point

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is worse than trusting in humber.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Humber will be fine this year.

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

foreals

even if jackson would be slightly better, at least we know humber is more fun to watch.

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's King Humber to you, buddy!

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by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

so awful

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

What is?

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

hudson/holmberg

for 2 relievers

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

hudson/holmberg/Getz/Fields

for 2 relievers.

If you’re going to whine, whine correctly.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah. So this year means nothing to you.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

it absolutely does

jackson being gone hurts more than rios being benched.

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rios being benched doesn't hurt

That’s like saying Jax being gone hurts more than winning the lottery while Angelina Jolie fellates me.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

that's not quite how it works.

have to consider also the year of production we got out of Edwin while he was here. He cost more in salary, obviously, but it’s not like Jackson did nothing while he was here. And yeah, have to consider the money saved from not paying Teahen, etc.

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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KW: payroll less stressed, could be more creative

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think that was pretty clear here too

But who do we even have left to trade for guys who make money, unless it’s one of those deals where the Sox pay the salary and just send back some sort of org filler.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

who knows

I think that this is it for the White Sox. I think JR told Kenny to shed salary and he did that (and pretty well actually)

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be easier to be creative

If you have a good trading chip like Edwin Jackson around?

by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all the NFL news, plus this...

I’m getting no work done.

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by jcrave24 on Jul 27, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I like this trade

I’m glad Teahen is gone and EJax was going to leave after this season anyway. We got the other right handed reliever besides Crain (can’t really trust Bruney yet), and Humber can go back to starting (where he belongs). Adding a solid prospect never hurts, all while cutting some salary!

by keatos94 on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

it's a start

but they still owe us for taking rios off their hands!

by tommyjoepeters on Jul 27, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't like trading jackson he was starting to get it recently.

toronto is going to flip jackson for a better package than we got. at least we got rid of teahen… (did anyone check on buehrleman)…

dr. crane doesn’t impress me. neither does the prospect.

de aza in center? eh. we’ll see.

maybe we can look for a real 3rd baseman now.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

i agree.

i’m just hesitant to call de aza the next big thing. i hope he plays well

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats the nice part

he only has to be below average to improve things.

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

i suppose.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

i know.

but i don’t think its going to be that much of a difference. de aza isn’t going to come up and hit 300 with 10 homers the rest of the way.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks.

rios was worth -10 runs on the season. if de aza is worth zero runs on the season, he is one win better.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you write an article and use WAR

and then you regress to this shit? Kenwo you’re killing me!

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol what i said i understand it.

i’m kind of disappointed though. Rios was my guy and now he is replaced by alejandro defuckingaza? and i don’t disagree with doing it.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rios might not his .300 and 10 homers the rest of his career...

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by Hazymania on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

true

the sox should have asked for drabek and then show them a picture of rios in a jays uniform.

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you took all the hits he gets from here on

and divide them into the plate appearances it took him to get them, he still wouldn’t hit .300.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

.208/.255/.300 There is no fucking suppose about it

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have to be the next big thing. He just has to not be terrible.

If there was ever a better situation to walk into as a minor leaguer coming up to the bigs, I haven’t seen it — “here kid, just do better than the worst hitter in the majors at the position”

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 27, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for thinking of me. i'm fine. really.

i don’t even like teahen that much. it just seemed that way because i grew to dislike him less than everyone else did.

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by BuehrleMan on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

There, there, BM.

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by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

zack stweart on kw radar. kw always gets his man

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

^stewart

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

7 years from now

colby rasmus!!

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know we'll see Figgins here before that though.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

KW was eyeing Stewert's pregnant mama many years ago

dude’s like an elephant with laser-like…memory

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oney Tweet
I think the deals r good. What worries me is. U just lost Rios for this year and years to come

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

which is absurd

I think Rios needs the break. He is totally fucked right now, take the pressure off and try to figure it out. Two White Sox players need to work this offseason and he is one of them

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

i didnt know Rios was ever found

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jul 27, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

that was more of a swipe at his Sox tenure

the way its giong, id rather have him lost than found

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

really? i thought he only had 1 good month

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

He played in Toronto for a few years

Where they offered him a large contract that we are stuck with. They did this because he played very well, they were wrong but they didn’t offer the contract for the hell of it.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

i thought you were referencing his time on the sox

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

all good

yeah he has been pretty much a disappointment this year. I thought that last year indicated that he would have a good year this year. I still think that Rios has a chance (a small one) to put up okay numbers but its not going to be this year.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

But what if this is the ass kicking he needs to right the ship? has he ever been told no or demoted in his entire career? Although now that I think on this, being let go on waivers for nothing should have been it. Nevermind.

by jimmyjr on Jul 27, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey baby I hear the blues a callin

Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs
And maybe I seem a bit confused
Well, maybe, but I got you pegged
But I don’t know what to do with those
Tossed Salads and Scrambled Eggs
They’re callin’ again

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes!!

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by homesickalien on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

frasor *is* crain!

similar numbers, except frasor’s splitter instead of crains curve?

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rumors that Toronto trading jackson, dotel, rzepczynski for rasmus

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Certainly more than we were offering.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson admits he was told he would be flipped to Wash before

in USAtoday article.
Is this the first admission publicly by anyone?

by James Good on Jul 27, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Okay that's cool and everything

but was there somebody behind the grassy knoll or not?

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Three tramps.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay.

Lateral movement. Whatever.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah, agree. Or maybe a slight positive.

closing the door on the Teahen mistake is a positive. Maybe they could have gotten something more useful for Jackson, but only marginally so.

So we get salary relief, a useful-ish Frasor, and possible contributor in Stewart. We give up mostly spare parts.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

My co-worker just told me about the trade

and I can’t tell you how happy I am that Rios is sitting down.

by slydernelson on Jul 27, 2011 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I have to imagine that Kenny is not done yet this season.

I think we more or less know what the Sox think of Morel, at least for this season. It’ll be interesting to watch, at least, which is more than I can say about this team for much of the season.

by mechanical turk on Jul 27, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

if reports are true with this Tor/ StL trade,

Toronto is getting Rasmus for Stewart and three relievers, right? Hot damn.

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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

+1 - 1 = 0

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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

no

ultimately, they gave up Frasor, Stewart, Rypezinic(sp) and Dotel for Rasmus

by jimmyjr on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

not really

cash in the deal I think and plus they took on 7.5 million. Seems like way to much for a prospect in a slump

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have developed the ability to see into the future?

What makes you think he is going to be anything more than average?

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

His OPS from last season, his minor league pedigree...

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can you at least start spelling the word correctly

when just spouting out the same shit every day?

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

still nowhere near a sure thing

All that cash+Jackson and relievers is a hell of alot to give up (if the trade goes through)

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

i thought pratt was talking about Stewart.

lol

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'm talking about Rasmus?

And I don’t have to look into the future to know that he’s going to be more than average, because he already is.

by rcpratt on Jul 27, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you sure you are talking about him?

He is 23 and has had a big year. This year he has been benched for Jon Jay. My argument is that Toronto gave too much for him anyways. He will probably be a decent player but I doubt he is a perennial all-star. I am not going to sit and argue about the future of Rasmus with a lost tigers fan, we already did that here.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rasmus' OPS in this terrible no-good awful down year?

Still 111. He had a great April, a good May, a below-average June, and a shitty July. He’s benched for John Jay partially for struggling and partially because the manager hates him, and partially because Jon Jay has been an above average hitter in the majors.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

the elephant in the room is his defense.

some think he needs to move to a corner soon. that offense doesn’t look so good then.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah. fangraphs doesn't like his defense this year or last.

although they curiously liked his first year.

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

defense often peaks very early

as in, when most players are in the minors. the whole speed thing.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i should say

if it wasn’t implied, mostly affects outfield defense. reactions more important on the infield. those may be slowed some but experience makes up for it, as least for awhile. speed to chase down flyballs is more difficult to offset with better reactions.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes sense to me...

but would you see that of decline in range in such a young player?

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

prospect in a slump??

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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

what do you define as terrible.

because i’m not following

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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

so 2 bad months

equates to a terrible year? cmon now.

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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think he is going to become a decent player

And not worth all that dough and a decent SP plus relievers. Again, the Jays took on ALL of Teabags contract. That has to be included

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

In which case

we’ve weathered 5 long, horrible years of Rios!

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

i cant wait to read jim's article on this trade

and i hope larry writes up his summation of it too.

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

hopefully he will spend the money saved. what is that, about $6M for the rest of this season?

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aramis Ramirez!

woooh.

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

that would be nice. i could go for that.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh fuck that ramirez is a good ballplayer who is having a good year.

id take him in a heartbeat. i just don’t want to pay him 15 million for next year.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I shudder to think that there could be 2 A. Ramirez' in the wsox lineup.

Their entire names would have to be spelled out on the backs of their jerseys.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ar. Ramirez and Al. Ramirez.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alexei should go the Ichiro route.

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by RWShow on Jul 27, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

ill take him too

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully we could get him to waive the clause in his contract about next year

and then just send em some org. filler and pick up the rest of his salary this year.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was joking

mostly because there is no way he waives that clause and i dont want him next year.

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by e-gus on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

All reports I've seen and heard have him waiving his clause

He wants to be a FA this year because the market at 3B is terrible and he could get $36/3. The problem I’ve heard is if he waives his no trade clause, the option year is automatically vested. I heard them hint on 670 that the Cubs could buy out the last year right before they trade him so he is a FA at the end of the year, but I’ve not seen the wording in his contract to know if that’s true.

If we could get him for this year and this year only, I think any trade not including Dayan/Morel/Humber for him is pooty goo

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by Kyle321N on Jul 27, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

a little more than 4 i think actually

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The question that really nags at me,

with Toe Boat on the bench, who will be AD’s new Wonder Twin?

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by greenlight on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

so does bruney go down when viciedo is ready?

do we really need 80 relievers?

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

lillibridge.

you’ll note that he has little purpose on this roster now.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean cut? Or do you think he clears?

My guess would be he gets picked up by someone

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by BobbySouthSide on Jul 27, 2011 12:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

not a loss.

milledge and viciedo are both playing well in AAA

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Dayan comes up

Where will he play?

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by Kyle321N on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

or if Q is traded in RF

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

dh against lefties

some outfield

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

via chuck g
Guillen: “I’m not saying Rios is going to be on the bench. I’m going to figure out the best lineup everyday.”

even though kenny told oz that rios is taking a back seat and to ride the bench. i smell a manager being fired soon

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

ah

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heres the Rasmus trade

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The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jul 27, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

meh

Jackson could at least win a 1-0 game. and if/when “Ace” Peavy gets hurt again, our rotation is in a jam. Teahen- watch him start hitting now someplace else.

Knowing KW, unloading this $$$ might be making room to take on more $$$ somewhere else. Of course, we all thought he’d flip Jackson for Dunn last year too.

by ruffster on Jul 27, 2011 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

he thought he was going to too

until rizzo showed his assholeishness

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

which was ultimately a good thing

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

can you clarify?

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

cannot really hold Rizzo being a total fuckstick against KW. What a difference that two month “try out” would have made for the Sox. Maybe Dunn would have struggled and we wouldn’t have signed him. Who knows.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

or signed him for less

if he’d tanked like he has this year.

by tommyjoepeters on Jul 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks like we add another piece

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

A 38 year old left-handed journeyman?

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoopee

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank god its ok now

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didnt say it was a good piece

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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

why?

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's not coming up to the main roster is he

we already have 33 bullpen guys.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

he makes 2mill this year, Miller does

that’s about a $666,667 hit, no?

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

better than cutting a guy worth 7.5 million no?

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont even bring that up. it makes us all sick

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

or a trade with thornton?

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure his name was Toby.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Dear god, the last thing we need now is another fucking Mike Myers.

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Reply fial

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by mikecws91 on Jul 27, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Maldives

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by greenlight on Jul 27, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks a lot

now we can’t openly and in good conscience hate on the guy.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tonight is Mark and Lauren Teahen's charity event at Rockit

I guess it just became his going away party too.

If i remember correctly, isnt Jason Frasor pretty poor for a closer but good as a middle reliever?

by SSHitman on Jul 27, 2011 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

who is dis trevor miller?

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Via various twitter feeds I can't link because of work computers,

it seems like the Beltran to the Giants deal is almost done. Maybe the runners-up come a askin’ about Q.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

offense only as good as your bullpen. we have a very very good offense now.

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we DFA Rios and he clears waivers

it’s up to him to declare free agency or go to the minors correct? If he doesn’t accept going to the minors can we “pull him back”?

by striker on Jul 27, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Huh?

Rios will be put on waivers. No one will claim him. He stays on the Sox.

by joewho112 on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, DFA does not mean waivers

if he clears waivers he is available to be traded to anyone. if he is claimed while on waivers, he can only be sent to the claiming team.

if he is designated for assignment the sox have 7-10 days to either:
  send him to the minors (he can refuse)
  grant him his unconditional release and then pay out the rest of his contract.

by coffeepac on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

ill be happy if we pay for two of those years to get rid of him

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

right, there's a point

where keeping him is worse then playing him. please see Gary Matthews Jr, whom the angles paid 11 million to play for the Mets.

by coffeepac on Jul 27, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are not at that point yet

I do not think Rios is this bad next year

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's had success in the past

teams have waited for longer, and for good reason

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by big_fun on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was good in July 2010 and OK in August 2010

Five terrible months is very disappointing, but it’s not nearly bad enough to consider eating more than $40 million dollars just to free up a roster spot.

That would be nearly twice Russ Ortiz’s record-setting eaten contract. And Rios was more deserving of his contract than Ortiz was in the first place.

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by big_fun on Jul 27, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Am I to believe that the White Sox could not match Toronto’s offer to StL?

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

exactly

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

or StL wanted what KW wouldn't give up; Dayan?

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by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or didn't have

which was money.

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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Cards also got Corey Patterson for Rasmus

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dayan is/is going to be >>> Corey

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know...Corey was once a highly touted prospect

I’ll bet Keith Law liked him once.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Corey was once a very highly touted prospect

now he’s a tick above replacement level.

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by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

too highly

hypnotized by his own pr machine.

by tommyjoepeters on Jul 27, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

totally agree

just saying that he was also included in the deal, the Cards got lots for Rasmus.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, but nothing we couldn't match easily.

Marc Rzep, Dotel, and Patterson are all easily found in our system.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record, I mention this because I think Rasmus > Frasor and Stewart

Perhaps Frasor will net a type B pick and Stewart can blossom under Cooper’s tutelage.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

stewart?

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

really?

larry would be the best person to answer that, but I’d say Addison Reed or Dan Remenowsky.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

reed and remenowsky are quite different.

reed is arguably the second best prospect in the system. remenowsky would be lucky to make my top 20.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

you think so?

I think Rzep is bullpen, possible back of rotation starter. Sale, I think, can be a 3 in time.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

when the options in the organization are either sale or reed.

you’re not exactly equipped to fine a precise comp.

rzep is in the middle of the two.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

k, thx.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sale has better stuff than Rzep

but Reed and Remenowsky don’t throw left-handed or have any ML experience. A feather in Rzep’s cap is he did have success as a starter in the minors (< H/IP, > K/IP)

by 3E8 on Jul 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

right.

what I should’ve said is that Reed, and to a slim extent, Remenowsky, have the ability to be Rzep at some time (minus the lefty part) Obviously, if the WS were to match that offer to the Jays they’d have to throw in more.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except Rzepcynski has proven he can pitch in the majors.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, like U-God says, even if you are bullish on Reed

I think Rzep’s floor is higher

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by big_fun on Jul 27, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rzepcynski...

his GB% is 65%, up from his career rate of 50%. He’s throwing his FB 10% more often this year than last year, and 9% more than 2 years ago. He’s throwing his slider and changeup less, so perhaps that is part of the reason behind his limited success. He’s essentially a fastball-slider pitcher at this point. By moving to the bullpen he’s able to go out and throw his fastball harder and to greater success than he would if he were in the rotation. The results so far have been pretty decent, although his BABIP is .248 and he’s due for some regression.

What this all tells me is that he’s, right now, a good bullpen piece and possible back of rotation filler. That’s worse than Sale, and probably a little bit better than Addison Reed in about 1-2 seasons. Reed’s ceiling has gone from a back of rotation starter to closer/setup guy. So it’s not unreal to think Reed can become Rzep in a year or two. If your the Cards, you take Rzep though, obviously since he’s MLB ready, even though Reed is 4 years younger.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

FanGraphs likes the deal for the Blue Jays

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/blue-jays-take-on-salary-to-get-rasmus/

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do tell

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please say John Rooney.

Nellie Fox's career high for strikeouts in a season was 18. In his 19-year career, he walked 719 times and struck out 216 times.

by mikecws91 on Jul 27, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

la russa.

ozzie moved upstairs to gm. walker assistant gm. hahn as hitting coach.

by craigws on Jul 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha underrated

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by BoeJouma on Jul 27, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

mentioned how stewart was on kw list since last year. has 4 average pitches and one plus pitch.

frasor is one of the best setup guys in the league. will play the best guys possible.

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

In related news, Jim has just traded WU in a three way trade

For Jesse S and some BCB prospects. Going down as the worst trade in SSS history.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

eh, the guy's just a rental player, trying to rack up as many rings as possible.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Jul 27, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

owns his own tux so there's that...

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, Jesse or Jessy S?

Jesse is hilarious. Jessy S is the worst person since Hitler.

by joewho112 on Jul 27, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch. That cuts deep.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

clearly not Chicago tough.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn. I thought my tattoos put me over the top.

And I’ve been watching The Wire in a desperate attempt to find to acceptance of the site. (Sigh). Oh well. Can’t all be winners, right Charlie Sheen?

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

They can't all be KenWo

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by South Side Expat on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

2HA doesn't cotton to no coachin'

2HA: “When the ball throwed up there, 2ndHalf’s swinging – don’t care what sign the coach waves – that ain’t 2ndHalf’s game”

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

First ballot Hall of Famer.

We respect your veteran status.

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by Uribe Down on Jul 27, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal just said on MLB Network that they are dangling Danks and Floyd

So what will the starting 5 eventually be: MB, Jake Peavy, Humber, ?, ?

by LVSoxFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

stewart

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can dangle whoever you want

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ballantweet
CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini
#WhiteSox are not trading John Danks, assuredly. NOT TRADING JOHN DANKS

I still think the Sox resign Danks

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

They would almost certainly have to get pitchers back in a deal for one of them.

Or, you get a vice and stretch out Sale. In a hurry.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

This year, you throw out garbage like Doug Davis to finish out the season

If you’ve moved Danks and Floyd, you’ve waived the white flag anyways.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, Lord, I repent for all my sins.

I go to one of those rehab camps if it means i don’t have to see Doug Davis starting for the White Sox ever.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

have you seen south park season 11 episode 2?

you may enjoy it

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marcus or Michelle?

"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."

by Air Raid Siren Stan on Jul 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

marcus

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michelle Bachmann's husband will be happy to take you in.

Plus side.. you can try to be the one who gets that $10,000 prize for proof you had relations with him, taking money from Minnesota and pumping it into the Illinois economy in the process.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I bet he will be "happy to take [me] in." Just not in his home.

Thankyouverymuch!!!!

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this the gane thread?

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

If it's good for the gander.

Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?

by SkanchoDanza on Jul 27, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

This opens up some payroll room

Does KW buy a bat now?

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by SteveKerr on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

KenWo's already on his way to the Cell.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

More Ballantweets
CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini

@tomz37 They are not compelled to, but nor will they shy from, shedding Thornton’s contract. Red flag season.
CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini
More deals RT @eloera1: do you think the #WhiteSox are done dealing or do you see more deals coming up? Still need a 3rd baseman.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

what's a red flag season?

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

not top notch, may continue decline next year

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said red flag, not red rag.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roll tide.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

now im going to be glued to the screen all day

waiting for AR

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keith Law's take on White Sox' end, apologies if posted elsewhere:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=law_keith&id=6808507

What I don’t understand here is why the White Sox are essentially selling, unless they were just clearing payroll to add something else. They’re three games out of first place in the loss column, and after bottoming out at 11-22, have gone 39-30 since then, and have a very realistic chance to win their division, especially since they can add Dayan Viciedo and perhaps Addison Reed from their own farm system for the stretch run. They had some depth in the rotation, assuming they believe the Phil Humber Show can go on all year, but they are clearly worse off at the major league level today than they were last night — and if they can’t convert Stewart’s stuff into results, they’re going to be left with very little return for trading Daniel Hudson last year.

Easy chief
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by Jack M on Jul 27, 2011 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

he's mostly right.

but, if this was the only way to get de aza up here (in the mind of the white sox), i’m not so sure they’re worse off today.

by larry on Jul 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

this.

Kenny managed to get De Aza here without cutting Vizquel nor Lillibridge, demoting Morel, or any other various moves OG would’ve likely opposed.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

but what is often good for the team is not good for ozzie.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

sad but true (what you say)

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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 27, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gee, go fuckin' figure - KLaw doesn't like the WSox' move

I don’t agree with him that the sox are worse off at the ML level for it. They still have 5 starters. As was discussed here multiple times in the last week, the only real move would have been to send down Morel, bring up DeAza or Viciedo, the end.

This gives them mobility for another move, lets them bring up DeAza now, payroll flexibility, didn’t send anything to the Jays for Teahan…

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can't close mentally weak.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really think they will trade Thornton

He is getting back to where he was before he shriveled up as a closer

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by rangerjae on Jul 27, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hector was kind of sexy

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Swinging strikes rates at a career-low

if they got a good offer, it’s not the worst time to pull the trigger

by WSO on Jul 27, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have to agree

which makes me very sad

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 27, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

if it leads to a reasonable deal to dump rios I couldn’t be upset, but it would suck to me to trade thornton after he signed for (a lot?) less than he could have gotten elsewhere.

by Trooper on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we trade AJ this season is ovah

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

39-30

Is for slackers

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Difference between Jackson and Peavy rest of the year....

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team wasn't going to the playoffs as constructed.

I agree with the shakeup. They were excruciating to watch, listen to, or look at their avatars on GameCast.

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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 27, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson, maybe Danks or Floyd

This all makes sense. Its the fucking pitching that’s the problem.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I hear you. But really, of the bats on the team, who is moveable?

Q and Rios are available. Probably Pierre too. Nobody wants the last two. You aren’t trading Lex or Konerko. AJ and Morel? Who wants them? (Irony…San Francisco needs a catcher….).Dunn is immovable. Pitching is the only thing they have to trade.

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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jul 27, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

beckham. morel.

could get a lot for alexei.

by craigws on Jul 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesnt make us better though to get rid of him

unless we got the entire tampa bay farm system

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would we want to get rid of Beckham or Alexei

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by rangerjae on Jul 27, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does SF still have that same trainer too?

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by rangerjae on Jul 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

brian mccann is on the dl

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am happy to see Teabag go

And happier to see De Aza get to play

Didn’t like the fact we gave up a starter but hopefully Humber holds up and we pull Jakey after 75 pitches to band aid us for the rest of the season

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by rangerjae on Jul 27, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

ozzie doesn't follow pitch count. he follows innings

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Jul 27, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie doesn't follow anyone, they follow him

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by rangerjae on Jul 28, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is clearly the White Sox version of the rope o dope.

Detroit: “Hey White Sox selling a little, we don’t need a top line starter….”

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by Tdogg on Jul 27, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

And then kaboom, here comes the bulldog!

And possibly Peavy too

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by rangerjae on Jul 27, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

greg hibbard?

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 27, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like we could have gotten more for Edwin....

I dont really like that we used his trade value to help move teahen. Lets hope Zach Jackson lives up to his former top prospect status

by nsam93 on Jul 27, 2011 2:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Should prolly try to get the prospect's name right.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah crap. Yeah that's on me.

I know who Zack Stewart is though. Just brain farted when typing the post

by nsam93 on Jul 27, 2011 2:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This trade is just the icing on a season that has been a fan-murdering cake

I just don’t think KW got the return he could have gotten for Jackson, perhaps colored by what was given up for EJax.

I’m ready to go to the GM bullpen, Rick Hahn, please.

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 27, 2011 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It might be worth waiting a few days to judge this.

If Wandy or another SP goes for a substantially better return, it would cast this move in a more critical light.

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by big_fun on Jul 27, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

I didn’t like trading Hudson for Jackson in the first place and this makes that deal much worse in my eyes.

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Jul 27, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

no one liked the Hudson trade

But pulling another trade that effectively solves or diminishes three or four different problems with the team isn’t a bad way to get what they can from it

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by big_fun on Jul 27, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go look at the package the Jays gave

8 players were involved… KW kicked the tires and the Sox just didn’t have enough.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was a fanpost on June 13th by a newbie - maybe the SSS experts can learn something sometimes

Hope Jackson and Teahan to Yanks rumor is true
 by ThanksDye on Jun 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT
Heard on on MLB that Sox were in talks sending Edwin Jackson and Teahan to Yanks. Don’t know what we get, but it would help Oz manage with better options and would allow Sox to bring up the Cuban. Jackson is solid but Humber deserves spot and six man rotation has to end. Teahan has not been able to figure out where he stands on team and may need fresh start in New York. We will see.

by ThanksDye on Jul 27, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Learn what?

That some new guy posted a rumor from the most vague source of all time, about a trade that didn’t happen, so we shouldn’t pay attention to him in the future?

More so, when that poster refuses to explain what he means when he says something as vague as “MLB” and acts like an ass when dealing with people, he’s probably not a good source for trade rumors?

by Grinder in Training on Jul 27, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Appreciate your comments

But if I am correct Jackson and Teahen were traded today and it does not matter to who – anything else is background noise. If I hear any other significant MLB rumors, I will make sure that you guys are the first to know.

by ThanksDye on Jul 27, 2011 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

So one of the key details of a trade (the other team involved) is background noise?

Keep tootin that horn.

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by U-God on Jul 27, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Walker IS White Sox

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by blackoutsox on Jul 27, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

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Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Jul 27, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

sig'd

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the time that was the rumor

But as we can see, that package moved to another team – happy to see Teahen gone

by ThanksDye on Jul 27, 2011 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

you make me want to break the noose standards of posting.

"You go up there, against a dog-ass line up AND pitcher, and you don’t do a fucking thing with it. They whip your silly, sorry, saggy ass AGAIN, and you look like fucking bottom-ass, bitch-ass chumps doing it." - 2HA

by Shoeless In SC on Jul 27, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

worst trade ever

that RP is just going to come here and blow games tony pena heartbreak style,with shades of linebrink

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by Czheck on Jul 27, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

iirc

he said those words when an orphan he impregnated asked for child support. “DF” stands for “deadbeat father,” as he’s known to his dozens of un-athletic children.

by evenyoudorn on Jul 27, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like will will not get Miller, thankfully
AA: T Miller will not be flipped to CWS.

http://twitter.com/#!/LottOnBaseball/status/96314800447045632

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

i dont if there is some cool award for farm system of the decade

but i’ve grown tired of seeing the white sox top prospects become decent everyday players all over the league except for the pale hose for some bummy 1-2 year rentals

i liked ed jax but the trade was unneccessary. i mean when he no hit the rays it took him like 165 pitches. that should have been a huge red flag that says he has control/command issues even when his stuff is “on”

alas no more games of yelling a ed for missing location after 6 or 7 innings and then not realizing when he exits he is still in line for a win despite the mild mound performance

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 27, 2011 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

What do you do if your boss says

“You have to cut some salary, things haven’t gone as well as we thought they would. So figure it out”

 E Jax is E Jax, great stuff, not good command. We got to get rid of a huge bad contract in Teahen for a player that was going to be gone anyways.

by 815Sox on Jul 27, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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