This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball
by larry on Jul 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT
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- There's a lot of talk about Carlos Quentin being traded and there are plenty of White Sox fans who are in favor of such a move. One cited reason is that Dayan Viciedo can be slotted into right field and the White Sox won't lose much. Seemingly overlooked in this analysis is that Viciedo is currently injured, bothered by the same thumb that he broke in spring training, and hasn't played since last Saturday. A week ago, trading Quentin and replacing him with Viciedo would have made more sense. Now, there's the issue of how Viciedo will play when he comes back - and even when he'll come back. Perhaps tellingly, Viciedo was not placed on the disabled list (which, in the minor leagues, is a 7-day DL), so the assumption appears to have been, at least initially, that he would be back relatively quickly. On the other hand, Viciedo's offensive performance was pretty poor immediately after his return from the broken thumb at the start of the season (April: .250/.280/.398) and also immediately prior to him being held out of game action (Post All-Star break: 9 G, .125/.282/.125). I wouldn't be counting on Viciedo to be able to acceptably replace Quentin.
- Notable re-assignments: RHP Addison Reed, UT Tyler Kuhn and RHP Brian Omogrosso promoted to Charlotte; RHP Zach Stewart assigned to Charlotte; RHP Anthony Carter demoted to Birmingham; CF Keenyn Walker promoted to Kannapolis; C Kevan Smith promoted to Great Falls.
- When Walker was promoted, one thing that interested me was which of Walker and Trayce Thompson would play center field for the Intimidators. At least last night, in Walker's first game, it was Thompson. Thompson, long thought to be destined for a corner, has impressed some with his play in center this season, as he's developed more of a feel for the position. For more on Thompson, check out this article.
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Nice juxtaposition of Thompson with Viciedo -
Thompson’s thumb surgery obviously retarded his progress. A thumb is subtle, perhaps, but an integral part of being able to hit and hit with any semblance of power. Thanks for the perspective.
Somewhat suprised Rios is not in the lineup considering his track record against Wakefield.
Who knows if De Aza has seen a knuckleball. Nice write up larry thanks.
watching him bat
makes me want to hit myself over the head with a sledgehammer.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
FAR? I got this one:
“What is the distance Alex Rios will hit the ball straight up in the air if he’s batting with runners on base”
by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 29, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Creativity!?
That happens all the time. It’s not like he just pulled that idea out of his ass
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
by BoeJouma on Jul 29, 2011 5:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
home run in a silo.
boxcars boxcars boxcars
by soxshenanigans on Jul 29, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
velocity?
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Jul 29, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
no no no. dear mr. fantasy
play us a tune
something to make us all happy
do anything take us out of this gloom
sing a song, play guitar
make it snappy
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
BM is the one to make us all glad
by doing that, he breaks out in tears.
So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski
steve stone on the score now.
apparently neither stoney nor anybody at the score knows that de aza is starting tonight and rios is not. great job guys.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Any idea where they plan to put Stewart?
Pen or rotation?
too early to tell
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
He's actually pitched well so far.
I’d bump someone else before him. Who else is even starting a Charlotte these days? Harrell is gone, so is Gaby Hernandez. They were using relievers like Dolsi and Heath for a while.
Draft picks
Is there a reason we haven’t seen Erik Johnson or Jeff Soptic yet?
Interesting that they have been starting Snodgress, heard he profiled as more of a reliever.
If there wasn’t such a jam-up at catcher, do you think Smith would have been promoted to Kannapolis?
johnson and soptic both took time off between the end of their seasons and signing.
can’t just throw them right away. plus, keep their innings down. imagine we’ll see them shortly.
regarding smith, that’s probably right.
So are Johnson and Soptic
in extended ST or something? Or are they just throwing on the side to get their arm strength up?
Side note: where do you get a lot of your info larry? I was looking online for where Stewart would be assigned and couldn’t find it. Do you have “sources”? Or do you just follow all the Sox guys on twitter or something?
johnson is with great falls, soptic is with bristol. they just haven't played yet. the rookie league teams are allowed to carry 35 players on their rosters (all active, but can only play up to 30 in a game)
so there are always a bunch of guys who aren’t playing, or playing much.
where stewart was assigned was pretty easy to find since the white sox announced it in the trade press release and he’s on the international league transaction page. i certainly follow and read a whole slew of minor league stuff but i do have what i guess could be called “sources”. i talk to the media relations people for the clubs, media guys, as well as just people who i know who go to games (i’m still looking for someone for great falls, if anyone is out there).
Sorry for all the questions larry, but you know your stuff.
Any read on Nathan Jones? He’s been doing MUCH better at AA the last month or so. He’s always had the stuff.
he started to put it together in late may or so. the positive trend in his stats since the start of the season is pretty remarkable.
i was surprised that omogrosso got the promotion to charlotte over jones. or at least that they haven’t made room for jones, because omogross should be in AAA. in any event, we’re very likely to be seeing jones in september. he can definitely be a good bullpen piece.
gotta apologize for asking questions?
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 29, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
polodude spits when he types
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 29, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Because I like lists
What would you change to your list from last October?
http://www.southsidesox.com/2010/10/18/1726154/the-official-sss-top-eleven-white-sox-prospects
1. Sale
2. Morel
3. Mitchell
4. Viciedo
5. Flowers
6. Thompson
7. Infante.
8. Escobar
9. Danks
10. Rienzo
11. Leesman
with Martinez, Reed, Petricka, Short just outside the top 11.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
Well, if I was doing it,
I’d probably take Sale and Morel off of it to start.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 29, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The thing about Sale is...
would he still be considered a starting pitcher prospect?
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 29, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
We're absolutely sure Scott Ruffcorn's no longer a prospect, right?
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 29, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
reed would be a lot higher.
mitchell would be a few spots lower. flowers a couple spots lower. saladino would be in the latter half of the top ten. probably wouldn’t mention martinez. that’s about it for major changes.
Definitely one of the more entertaining series previews from the opposition
Reasonable people can disagree about what Kenny Williams has done as GM of the Chicago White Sox whereas unreasonable people can disagree about disagreeing. Williams is that odd duck of a GM who’s had some incredible successes and some almost equally bad moments as well. Some analysts are ambivalent, noting the World Series win in 2005 but a succession of other smaller failures. Others, possibly due to the invisible top-hat wearing rhino standing behind them screaming in their ears, think Williams hides small fluffy kittens in his basement and force feeds them lollipops until they get little fluffy sugar headaches. So there’s disagreement
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by Tdogg on Jul 29, 2011 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i liked this:
Dustin Pedroia’s eighth inning homer in Thursday’s game gave him a hit in his 24th consecutive game. It’s the longest streak since my son hit my other son for 26 straight days.
So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski
then i remembered Pedroia single handedly betting the Sox one series, and I got sad.
So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski
rose got in trouble for that
oto he didn’t play in beantown
by tommyjoepeters on Jul 29, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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by FAQ on Jul 29, 2011 8:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For you youngsters out there going to the game tonight...
Hope you bring your A game. Downtown was crawling with Sawx fans and their spawn.
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
by Chiburb on Jul 29, 2011 4:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Most Red Sox players aren't from Boston, and thus, don't speak Bostonian
so despite the cheering, David Ortiz and such get very confused trying to figure out how to “Skaw” some runs.
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 29, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
The ones that weren't wearing Sawx jerseys were wearing
Madras Bermudas with pink Polos, and had sunglasses attached to cords. I suspect those are the ones in the scout seats.
Too late to get tix for the Ligues?
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
by Chiburb on Jul 29, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Did I mention the boat shoes?
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
by Chiburb on Jul 29, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If there is one thing I learned from 3 days in Martha's Vineyard, it's that people from New England are univerally terrible
They rank right between Neo-Nazis and people who leave reviews on Yelp
only thing that matters
what is the dew point
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Did I READ THAT RIGHT????
Did Larry just say in his article that trading Quentin and bringing up Viciedo might have made sense last week? Perception is Reality or Reality is Perception??? But seriously, I agree with Larry 100%. While I love Viciedo, his best attribute was/is how quick the ball comes off his bat (one of the quickest in baseball I would imagine). With this injury I wouldnt expect that for some time now. Maybe not even for a month or two at this point so I would be afraid that it would be very hard to replace Quentins offense with Viciedo injured
as well as Jason Marquis
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Maybe as a favor for a completely asshole-ish move
Rizzo tells the Tigers that all conversations about Marquis start with them acquiring Alex Rios
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 29, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope that goes as well as the last time Detroit traded for a Seattle starter.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
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