Red Sox 10, White Sox 2: A rare trouncing
Sometimes a big picture approach is best.
The White Sox had won seven straight against the Red Sox entering tonight. Phil Humber had already defeated Boston back in May by pitching well into the eighth, while Jon Lester came apart on Memorial Day against the White Sox.
So really, a pummeling at the hands of the best team in the American League was slightly overdue. It just would've been nice if it went a little differently, with half a day until the trade deadline.
In his first start since the Edwin Jackson trade, Humber couldn't make it through the fifth inning after throwing some nasty stuff through the first four. The Red Sox scored four runs in the fifth, as all three factors went against the White Sox:
*Bad pitches: Humber missed on his curve to Jarrod Saltalamacchia, whose RBI double put the offense in motion.
*Bad defense: Alexei Ramirez failing to stop an A.J. Pierzynski throw on Carl Crawford's stolen base, plus slow reaction by Phil Humber on a sac bunt-turned-single by Josh Reddick.
*Bad luck: Brent Morel couldn't come up with a relatively routine leaping grab on a soft liner, because the broken bat was heading in his direction, too.
That last play ended Humber's night after just 4 2/3 innings, and the rout was on. Alex Rios didn't help matters, either.
In the bottom of the seventh, Paul Konerko put the Sox on the board with a solo shot. His 25th homer of the year gave made it a 4-1 game. Rios gave the run back in the top of the eighth, allowing Reddick to score on Marco Scutaro's single to right center. He wasn't going full-speed to track down the line drive to the gap, but when he awkwardly gloved the ball and took his sweet time getting his body into throwing position, that's when third-base coach Tim Bogar gave Reddick the green light. Gordon Beckham dropped the relay throw, and Reddick scored uncontested.
Beckham hit another solo shot in the eighth, but Rios' painful defense defeated the purpose. Ozzie Guillen, too, raised the white flag in the ninth by trying to get two full innings out of Brian Bruney. The Red Sox were merciless to him, and Guillen finally pulled him with two outs, after Bruney gave up six runs on seven hits over 1 2/3 innings. That will ruin his ERA for a while.
The four-run fifth ruined what looked to be another tight pitchers' duel, thanks in large part to the defense of Morel in the second inning. First, he took away a single from Kevin Youkilis with some serious range and a full-extension dive to his left. He popped up and gunned a throw to first just in time to get Youkilis by a step. One batter later, he made a diving catch in medium left field on a David Ortiz pop-up.
Youkilis returned the favor in the bottom of the third by making a nice barehanded charge-and-throw on a decent bunt by Morel.
But after the Red Sox broke it open, the only true bright spot was the debut of Jason Frasor, who entered the game with runners on first and second, one out, and Youkilis at the plate. Frasor froze him with a great slider, and then got Ortiz to tap back to the mound to erase the threat.
Outside of the two solo shots, Lester threw eight easy innings. Even though he struck out eight hitters, he still found a way to limit his workload to only 98 pitches.
The eight-run loss was the worst margin of defeat since May 29, when the Sox lost to the Toronto Blue Jays, 13-4.
Record: 52-53 | Box score | Play-by-play
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On a better note tonight was Konerko's 1000th run scored as a White Sox
Only the immortal four of Eddie Collins, Luke Appling, Nellie Fox, and Frank Thomas have done that.
Paulie is also a little over 70 hits from 2000 as a South Sider, something also only done by those four.
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
by ChiSoxRox on Jul 30, 2011 9:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
i don't mind that we got whipped.
i just wish it happened against a different pitcher. Would have been nice to see humber get back on track.
I’m a loyal guy- rios just lost my loyalty with that horseshit effort tonight.
felt bad for brian bruney. he was left out there to rot.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
He's got to do a better job holding runners for one thing.
The Twins exploited this against him as the Red Sox did tonight.
Felt bad for Bruney
but then he is glad just to be in the league.
Really hard to root for a mediocre team in hopes of leapfrogging two other mediocre teams.
Is it true that Rios made a money sign gesture to the crowds
after that play in the 8th inning as previously mentioned in the last thread?
No
Some jackass wrote a long diatribe on ESPN stating that his “friend” told him all this stuff that Rios did, which included not only remembering the “friend” from the night before and recognizing him but also making a dollar sign with his hands in regards to being called a bum.
Of course Rios would never do such a thing, at the very least its against his self interest.
Rios fielded that single in the 8th, ran to the stands...
and made a “V” sign to the crowd, and flicked his tongue in it while the Boston dugout all emptied and ran around the bases.
He finally responded to everyone yelling by throwing a popup to Juan Pierre in left, and fell on his ass laughing. He kept doing the smurf during the pitching to the next batter.
I don’t know about you guys, but I think that’s all a little outlandish.
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 30, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol
the last 30 comments on this site have all been by you tearing rios a new one on various articles
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Jul 30, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think tomorrow ought to have the "Hit Rios in the foot with a sledge - day" attraction
‘twould be fun to give fans a chance to pay Rios back for all the fun we’ve had watching him fuck up.
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 30, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats pretty fucked man
Its not your money. Its a sport, wanting to physically harm someone over it is kinda creepy.
Wow - you're right!
What was I thinking!?!?!
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 30, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, you know what? It is our money.
A team holds a city hostage to get a stadium built that the team gets sweetheart deals on concessions, skyboxes and parking, while having no responsibility or liability for the actual building or financing of the stadium.
So we’re told that our standard of living depends on some rich asshole getting to house his team in a publicly financed stadium. The state assembly passes financing, which is repaid through taxes. Your elected officials raise taxes to finance a stadium! Just because they don’t want to be the guys who made your team move.
Now, the players’ union is all for this, because it funnels tons of money to the team. Usually, tourists are charged all kinds of taxes to travel to that city, through airline or car rental, or hotels, just to pay for Comiskey’s financing, or Petco Park, or Safeco Field, or whatever.
It’s just like the housing boom. Reagan cut taxes. The banks also gave out easier mortgages. Rates were cut. All this extra money in the market caused people to take free money, and bid up the prices of houses in favorable areas. Supply and demand. So we experienced a housing bubble.
Now we have a ballplayer bubble. Notice how, like 28 teams have brand, spankin’ new ballparks, all in the last 30 years? Even when some of them already had brand new ballparks, they needed something else to allow them to build more skyboxes, or whatever.
Teams had more money. Players got more money. Alex Rios was there to get slapped in the face with 60 million dollars. Do you make 60 million, 815sox? I bet you don’t. Alex Rios got 60 million from some GM to trying to save his job with taxpayer funded money, hoping Alex Rios would get interested in the game of baseball, and make that GM look smart.
He ain’t. He didn’t. He won’t.
Sorry I offended you with joking around about physically hurting your hero, Alex Rios. I won’t ever make 60 million in my life. If I was able to have kids, all of them added together would never be able to make 60 million in their lives. Both of my parents had, collectively, 7 siblings, and between the 9 of them, their kids and their grandkids, I don’t think that if both families incorporated, we couldn’t pull our assets and be worth 60 million.
Alex Rios is stealing your money. Hope you like what you’re getting for it.
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 31, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
i didn't read this. it's just hilarious that you wrote nine paragraphs on this in a single post at 12:30am on a saturday night..
I didn't either
Its just funny when people complain about something in which participation is totally optional.
participation in taxes isn't really optional
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 31, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
so you wrote all that about the fact that you have to pay like maybe a nickel or something?
and most of it is optional. don’t pay for hotels and restaurants downtown.
You can't possibly be serious right now, right?
Or you don’t travel and have no idea what you’re talking about.
Airport taxes add about $10 dollars a day to rent-a-car fees, you’re being taxed on your hotel no matter where you stay.
But I’ve exceeded 40 characters. You’re probably giggling already.
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
since you've written extensively on the subject, i assume you're aware that the bonds used to finance the building of the stadium are being repaid from a 2% tax on downtown hotels.
you live in chicago. don’t stay in hotels in chicago if you don’t want to pay for the stadium. not exactly hard for you to avoid this tax.
unless you own a business downtown, and are regularly
either having employees and clients visit.
My comment you found so funny dealt more with stadium financing, in general. Seattle is ridiculous renting a car, flying or staying at a hotel.
the taxes were structured precisely so that those who have to pay them don’t vote for the people who enacted them.
So what you’re saying is that anybody who stays at a hotel downtown, for whatever reason, is making a conscious choice to pay for Comiskey’s bonds. Weird opinion.
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 31, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't own a business downtown. and neither do you.
and, no, that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying you, as a chicagoan, have near-complete control over whether to give the white sox money.
And you would be wrong.
The wife’s a partner in a downtown business. They do fly people in from around the country for meetings and business. They stay at hotels. Her company pays for them.
I’m not sure what you’re saying. If you are flying into Chicago, and have to stay right near downtown meetings, you wouldn’t drive to Elmhurst to stay at a Motel on Mannheim, or something. You would stay in a downtown hotel.
Yes, I suppose that if people didn’t want to incur taxes that pay for bonds that financed a stadium for a team to generate more revenue to pay guys like Rios 12 million a year, they could just go out of business, steal some crayons, make a cardboard sign describing their homeless situation, and panhandle. In that very common case, you would be right, people do have the option of avoiding those taxes.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 1, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
like this?
“I AM A VETERAN OF THE RIOS WARS OF ‘08-’11.
BECAUSE OF HIS VAST CONTRACT I HAVE TAKEN TO ALCOHOLISM, LOST MY BUSINESS, FAMILY AND HOME AND HAVE BEEN FORCED TO LIVE ON THE STREETS.
PLEEZE SPARE A PENNY*”
*all pennies are subject to a 2% New Comiskey Tax.
by craigws on Aug 1, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
so you're concerned that your wife's business, in which she is apparently one of a number of partners, has to pay like $5 more per hotel room, which is spread across multiple partners, likely after some tax deduction.
so you give them like $15 a year against your will. well, you’ve obviously got your $15 worth here with your bitching.
by larry on Aug 1, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Reduction to the ridiculous still doesn't make you unwrong
You, are the weakest link.
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Our old pal OC is now a Giant.
The streak continues.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
after today there is a good chance it would have continued in cleveland.
that heroic victory paired with the ubaldo addition? not a bad day to be an indians fan.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I hope you're thinking about the Rockies
because getting anything for the remains of Orlando Cabrera is pretty good work.
They picked up some very good pitching prospects
This whole deal is seeming weird, why the refusal to take a physical?
Jimenez has a Lady Gaga tattoo on his genitalia?
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by TasteeFreeze on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Keving Goldstein pointed out that trades w/o physicals are routine
this time of year. So that gives them some cover. Plus the balking at a physical thing was a NY report, so it could have been a plant by the Yanks to give them cover for not making the deal.
As for the haul the Rockies got, they were giving up Ubaldo Jimenez. His contract makes GMs engorged and all things considered, he’s more likely to approach 2010 Ubaldo than all those prospects are to reach their potentials. If he them scary good Ubaldo for one year, at least a couple of those prospects would have to approach their ceilings.
Small Sample Size I know
The White Sox have gone 8-4 since the All-Star break, the best record in baseball during that span. While Williams said he was neither happy nor satisfied with the White Sox recent stretch of play, it clearly seemed to be a relief to know that the team would still be all in.
Clearly the Sox should have been 12-0 after the break. lol.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
trade matt thornton and juan pierre for prospects
call up viciedo. if I read that later today I’ll be extremely happy. dumping rios on the brewers is a dream thats not gonna happen. they’re in love with nyger morgan over there
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
looks like Ubaldo Jimenez is going to the Indians.
So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski
Ubaldo for the top three tribe pitching prospects and a bat
Pomeranz, White, and Gardner
So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski
if you were worried about this then why in the fuck did they trade jackson?
Williams is a buffoon. first for not addressing the offense… and then trading the guy who may have been your current best pitcher.. and then complaining that you now don’t have enough pitching. IDIOT.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Possibly a callout to other GMs to say they are still open to dealing - e.g,.
Thornton. Either way, they were looking to dump payroll – which they did – so anyone new would be cheaper.
you're calling Jackson the Sox current best pitcher?
haven’t you hated on him like a whole lot?
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
no not really. i liked jackson.
he was annoying at one point because he couldn’t get through 6 innings.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Huh?
Jackson has not been the best current pitcher.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
ok danks has been good but he was also dl'd for a while in july.
jackson’s july stats were pretty boss.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
His July stats were worst than
Danks and Buerhle.
The were the same as Floyd. Hardly best current pitcher.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
oh for christ sakes. the point is he's been very very good lately.
now williams wants another starter? you just traded away a good one. Kenny needs to go.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Maybe he does but the only thing I find ridiculous beside the obvious overstatements
is using that as proof he should go off a damn rumor. Give me a break.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
i think someone said this already yesterday.
but has any white sox rumor from ken rosenthal ever had any truth to it?
Jackson/Hudson last year.
No others come to mind immediately.
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by Jim Margalus on Jul 31, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Especially when he apparently
2:11pm: The White Sox are telling teams Danks is not available, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman. It seems that Rosenthal threw his name out there as more of an example, anyway.
mlbtr
So Rosenthal just decided to use a name as an example and chose to use Danks? Didn’t really present it that way. Why not just say “and possibly a starting pitcher”
What's wrong with Rosenthal's tweet?
Source: #Rangers would only move Holland for Thornton if #WhiteSox expanded deal to include a starter such as Danks. #tradedeadline #MLB
He didn’t say the White Sox put him on the market. He also used the word “such as,” which is another way to say, “for example.”
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by Jim Margalus on Jul 31, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Walk that shit off
You knew this would happen eventually. The Red Sox had to whop that ass eventually.
This is a growing process for Humber. He’s had a bad run but still plenty of positives in those last 3 starts that relax me.
14-4 K/bb in those 14 innings
About 50% ground balls for outs and only 1 hr allowed.
I know you haven’t been used to base runners this year Phil but you need to get better with them on.
Win today and its a very good week.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

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