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Trade deadline: Busy Saturday for White Sox rivals

Here's a quick roundup of where the AL Central contenders stand as the 3:00 p.m. CST deadline approacheth:

Detroit Tigers

The Detroit rotation is Verlander (165 ERA+), Scherzer (90 ERA+), and Scheiße, so there's plenty of room for Fister and his 111 ERA+. He wishes he had John Danks' luck, as he's 3-12 with a 3.33 ERA, so he should welcome a change of scenery for his arbitration case alone.

Getting Fister and Pauley, a decent bullpen guy, cost the Tigers four young'uns.. Wells and Furbush are short on upside -- it's the development of the toolsy Martinez and the PTBNL that will swing this deal. Sadly, it's probably not going to be Castellanos, the 2010 recipient of the annual Detroit Well-Above-Slot Payment.

Dave Dombrowski isn't afraid to dump a ton of youth on a team for a piece he needs, and the results of the Miguel Cabrera package back him up. Cameron Maybin is finally breaking out, but in his fourth season and second team after the trade. Since Fister is under team control through 2015, the risk isn't that great for the depth they're sacrificing. The Sox shouldn't like this trade. They should hope that Fister ends up like the last starter Seattle sent to Detroit.

Reaction: Lookout Landing and Bless You Boys.

Other moves coming: They have asked about San Diego's relievers, but their other big move was the promotion of Jacob Turner, who struck out six over 5 1/3 innings in defeat on Saturday.

Final note: "There will always be a gaping hole where the Fister was." -- David Aardsma. Seriously.

Star-divide

Cleveland Indians

The Indians one-upped the Tigers by trading for Colorado ace Jimenez, but the teams couldn't come to an agreement in time to keep him from pitching for the Rockies on Saturday. He started the game, gave up four runs in the first inning, and then was pulled upon completion of the deal. The Indians could have arranged their whole rotation around him immediately, but instead, they'll have to wait a few days.

He came at a price, as White and Pomeranz were two of Cleveland's top four prospects, and projected to be rotation mainstays. But neither of them were projected to put up the seasons like Jimenez's 2009 and 2010.

However, Jimenez hasn't come close to those numbers himself this season. He's just 6-9 with a 4.46 ERA, and faced questions about his velocity earlier in the year. But he righted himself in June and looked like his old self, aside from his last start and one inning.

His contract is quite team-friendly -- he'll make only $9.95 million for 2012 and 2013 combined, but he'll probably void the $8 million option for 2014. Still, getting 2 1/2 year of Jimenez for that price kills a lot of the risk involved, because the worst-case scenario won't murder the budget, so I think the Indians were smart to take the plunge, assuming Jimenez passes the physical (which was a question for the New York Yankees when they kicked his tires).

Cleveland's rotation, at least until we see how Jimenez adjusts to the American League, resembles Detroit's on paper -- a Cy Young-caliber warhorse at the top and a strong No. 2 in Justin Masterson, with the final three spots lacking luster. Trading White eliminates an option on the back end.

The promotion of Jason Kipnis paved the way for Orlando Cabrera to go elsewhere, which cost the Indians their automatic bid into the 2011 postseason.

Reaction: Let's Go Tribe and Purple Row.

Other moves coming: The Indians aren't done thinking of Rockies, as they like Chris Iannetta. San Diego's Ryan Ludwick is also on their radar.

Final note: "What kind of a name is Poone? Comanche Indian. What kind of a name is Ubaldo? Cleveland Indian." -- Batting Stance Guy

And the rest

White Sox: Ken Rosenthal says they're looking to add rotation depth, which is funny since they traded rotation depth. Yes, I know, Mark Teahen contract dump, but still.

Twins: On Twitter, the Twins fans I follow are petrified that Bill Smith will trade Denard Span to Washington for Drew Storen. Because the Wilson Ramos-Matt Capps trade worked out oh so well for them.

Royals: They traded utilityman Mike Aviles to the Red Sox for Triple-A utilityman Yamaico Navarro and reliever Kendal Volz. Navarro could become New Aviles for the Royals if he can finish developing.

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Good deal for the Tigers but not over the top

Fister’s splits away from Seattle are a full run worse and the pitch to contact guy gets the Tiger defense. Still he’s a solid 3 or 4 for them.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 6:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Turner is the big add for them

that kid is a bad ass. Or at least he will be soon, anyway.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 31, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

No not yet

He’s not even going to stay on the big

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

This has been a pretty active trade deadline

Too bad KW made most of his moves during the offseason. I think the best approach is to have a solid team to start the season with room to make that big deal at the trade deadline.

by striker on Jul 31, 2011 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

no way Aardsma doesn't know what he did there right?

still, that’s awesome.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jul 31, 2011 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

His use of "the" leads me to believe it was very intentional.

And oh the places you can go with the Furbush…

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Jul 31, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still don't really want to sell,

but I’d be less upset if they do so now.

by CatBrains on Jul 31, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Because of Doug Fister?

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because they both made their teams better

and they are both ahead of us in the standings. These moves diminished the chances of The White Sox making the the playoffs. The degree to which they did is certainly up for debate, but there is no other way to spin it.

by CatBrains on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I put Cleveland far behind both teams

Detroit trade certainly helps but Viceido could have just a big an impact (course they’d have to use him.) I guess my question was related to believing any of these deals really making that much a difference that you would change your feelings of a sell-off. Not really important.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Though the bed-wetting makes for some good chuckles.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You mean like this..

deadline-deals-rarely-make-difference

Since 1995, these are the 10 deals in which the team’s margin of making the playoffs was smaller than the WARP of the player(s) they acquired before the deadline.

So, deadline deals can make a big impact on a team’s chances of reaching the playoffs, but it’s important to remember that they typically don’t. Finding one or two players who can combine for significant value is difficult, and getting those players to have a hot streak on cue is harder still.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sheehan agrees, says DET less than 1 win improved

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Jul 31, 2011 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

All I want for Christmas "today"

is for Rios to go somewhere, anywhere as long as it’s off of the White Sox roster. I know, I know! A fella can dream can’t he.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

death by chaumurky

and Alejandro de Aza will ascend to the Golden Lion Throne

a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee

by big_fun on Jul 31, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't know what this means,

but if it has anything to do with rios taking a fucking walk, i like it.

by obnoxious american on Jul 31, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

with Bourn to the Braves

it may be safe to say that the Quentin market is all but dried up.

by Titan52 on Jul 31, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Good. Now the White Sox should trade for Dayan Viceido

and really really like my team’s chances….

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

anyone hear ozzie's excuse for why reddick was able to score from first on a single?

i just caught it on 670. he had no criticism of rios for holding on to the ball. he said the whole problem was that it was a bad throw and gordon couldn’t handle it. thanks ozzie.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Jul 31, 2011 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

they cherry picked it

If you listen to the whole post game that quote would make more sense

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

A sighting of a Flower!

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

tdogg

A weed is but an unloved flower.

by Rhubarb on Jul 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but sometimes a dandelion

turns into Dandelion Wine….

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus christ. i spent like 200 on tickets to see this?

fuck it. its all about frank. Going with my son, wife, dad and brother.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

guess I should’ve expected “Sunday lineup”…

"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473

by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 31, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

and for moroots, to put in the next edition of his textbook on media relations
The Alex Rios Experience scores a hit with five media awaiting him for five minutes while he slowly dressed post: “I’m not talking tonight.”

http://twitter.com/CSNChi_Beatnik/status/97497551191805952

by larry on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

True to his word he didn't end up talking

but what really confused the reporters was when he started communicating via hand signs and winks.

by CatBrains on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

coverage of the frank thomas statue thing is on CSN at noon.

unveiling is scheduled to begin around 12:20, i’ve heard.

by larry on Jul 31, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Cabrera's play-off streak looks to be very much alive with his trade.

So, I say this more with admiration than anything else: I love that Kenny Williams went out and acquired the two worst players in the American League so far this year. - Joe Posnanski

by e-gus on Jul 31, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

brandon allen traded for a reliever. again.

this time to oakland (where all white sox prospects eventually end up) for brad ziegler.

by larry on Jul 31, 2011 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

comical

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

So no more moves for the Sox?

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2011 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

this seems pretty cool:

http://mlb.mlb.com/sponsors/pepsi/field_of_dreams/ballot.jsp

you vote for your favourite players at each position and get entered into a ballot.
if you win, the team will come to your town to play against you and 10 of your friends.

decent number of white sox on the ballot: pudge, gossage, the big hurt (bm – one of the alternate choices at 1B is steve garvey, so you might wanna get on this) and baines.

by craigws on Jul 31, 2011 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

this is an interesting tool.

can check the last time a team traded with another team.

white sox haven’t made a trade with the tigers since 1989, when the man traded was none other than KW for eric king.

even longer for the twins: 1986.

most trades is 62 with the orioles. but none since 2002, the chris singleton for willie harris trade.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/trade-partners.cgi?franch_ID_1=CHW&franch_ID_2=ALL

by larry on Jul 31, 2011 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

fire greg walker.
Frank Thomas, at Cell for unveiling of a statue, says he’d consider hitting coach or other job in ball. He’s "anxious to do something.’’

http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/97731945181622272

by larry on Jul 31, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

but
Frank Thomas said he has given hitting tips to both Dunn and Rios. Perhaps it was very recently because not much has changed.

http://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox/status/97732589376380928

by larry on Jul 31, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

no thanks on frank as hitting coach.

i have a hard enough time trying to defend walker. if people talked shit about frank i may kill someone.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

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