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White Sox 8, Indians 7: Winning record earned the hard way

The .500 mark wasn't letting the White Sox pass through without a fight. It involved two blown leads, a blown save, poor fielding and four extra innings, during which they wasted a leadoff triple.

Still, in the Most AL Central Game of the Year, the White Sox found a way to prevail thanks to a couple oddities of their own.

In the 14th, Gordon Beckham disappointed the crowd by hitting a one-out double to the right-center gap. It was disappointing because Shin-Soo Choo almost misplayed it into the White Sox's sixth-triple of the night, which would have tied a live-ball franchise-record set twice by the 1920 White Sox.

A Brent Morel infield single moved him to third, and that brought Juan Pierre to the plate. In a game where he contributed on both ends of the offensive spectrum (a home run AND a sac bunt), Pierre found a joyous middle with a single to left, scoring Beckham and bringing a merciful ending to this game.

And now the White Sox have a winning record for the first time since April 15 ... when they were 7-6.

Star-divide

 

By this point, many of the events of the game have blended together, so I'm just going to give it the bullet-point treatment the rest of the way.

* Yes, the White Sox had five triples, a first since Sept. 17, 1920, when Shoeless Joe Jackson was still allowed to play pro baseball. Alejandro De Aza had the first two-triple game since Alex Cintron on April 13, 2006. Alexei Ramirez, Tyler Flowers (!) and Alex Rios (!) also joined in the fun.

* Shin-Soo Choo was a big reason why, as he took terrible reads in attempting to cut off balls heading to the gap, and also couldn't come up with a ball against the rail. He also went 1-for-6 with three strikeouts, including a strikeout by Jesse Crain with the go-ahead run on third in the 13th.

* Hat tip to the remaining fans during that at-bat, because they kept yelling "Ahhhhhhhhh-CHOO!" during every pitch. It came across great on the broadcast.

* Going back to Rios' triple -- because Rios hit it, it had to end in frustration. He led off the 11th with a triple to right-center, then watched as Alexei Ramirez grounded to third, and, after an intentional walk to Brent Lillibridge, Flowers lined into a 5-3 double play, with Lillibridge getting caught closer to second.

* Rios also was one of the reasons why the game went to extras. He entered the game as a very ironic defensive replacement, because his misread allowed a routine fly to drop in front of him. Manny Acta called for a hit-and-run, which means that a reliable center fielder (read: De Aza) would've had an easy, game-ending double play. Instead, the runner (Ezequiel Carrera) scored, and the game pressed on.

* Sergio Santos allowed Carrera to reach base with a walk, which isn't smart since Carrera entered the game slugging .281. This after Santos mildly complained that he wasn't getting all the save opportunities.

* He wasn't alone in the soul-crushing bullpen show, as Will Ohman issued two straight walks -- the latter with the bases loaded -- to tie the game at 5 in the sixth inning.

* Gavin Floyd struck out seven of the first nine batters he faced ... but couldn't finish six innings. As 3E8 noted in the gamethread, he struggled from the stretch.

* Chris Sale also gave up a solo homer to Travis Hafner in his second inning of work, in between Ohman and Santos' ugly outings.

* However, when the game turned to extra innings, the bullpen turned it on. Matt Thornton was sharp over two scoreless innings, allowing just one hit. Jesse Crain also threw two, although he pitched around three walks and a hit by striking out three. Jason Frasor picked up his first White Sox win with a 1-2-3 inning, including two strikeouts.

* The White Sox pounded out 22 hits, a season high. Paul Konerko and Morel each had four, and Juan Pierre and Alejandro De Aza each provided three hits from the top two spots in the order.

* Home plate umpire Laz Diaz couldn't settle on a strike zone, and the rest of the umpires weren't much better. The Sox seemed to be on the winning end of the breaks battle.

Record: 61-60 | Box score | Play-by-play

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If anyone has a DVR and the ability to capture the AAAAAAH-CHOO's

I would be forever in debt to them, because while at the game it was the most entertaining moments.

From where I was sitting Laz’s strike zone seemed TERRIBLE. Especially the later the game got.

Ohman lived up to his name, and Sale (sans the one pitch to Hafner that he hit out onto the Dan Ryan) was filthy as ever. Sergio really lost confidence after that first batter, because he seemed on there for a moment.

3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10

by Kyle321N on Aug 17, 2011 1:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Laz's strike zone WAS terrible.

Balls were strikes and strikes were balls. It was like fucking Dr. Seuss out there.

"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson

by mikecws91 on Aug 17, 2011 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boy, that's an image.

I wonder what the Seussical was like in the sac. “Here’s my cat….I will put it in a hat…and then, perhaps, your rack!”

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cat is not a euphemism for penis in any make-believe world.

No matter how rhyming and wacky.

a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee

by big_fun on Aug 17, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ghostbusters quotes get a rec.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis

by Servant2LordBeckham on Aug 17, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for reminding me.

I meant to add the umps as a bullet point. Lots of random calls.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

You could tell he was all over the place low in the zone from Section 163.

It was annoying, but the Rios 11th was just aggravating. Great – they’re .500! (I must give credit where it is due, Flowers looked pretty good), but they’ve been torturous getting there. For God sakes, White Sox.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

no.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

The games this year where they won on a passed ball or walkoff walk or a balk are closer to '83.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

Lots of close games but more scratched out runs. Infield single, stolen base, sacrifince bunt, and a sac fly type of runs.

Am I wrong to block out my morning calendar to follow the White Sox game?

by Old School ChiTown on Aug 17, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

c'mon
And now the White Sox have a winning record for the first time since April 15 … when they were 7-6.

its not like they can just magically go from 7-5 to 7-9 without the inbetween

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 1:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Glad it wasn't just me.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Aug 17, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

i read your post as "they were't very far over 500 then either" dig

and thought of course not, thats how numbers work. they were a little higher at one point before the losing really set in. it was clearly a little pet peeve i had and nothing that really needed attention called to it.

But it was LATE and I was DRUNK so here we are

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

son?

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tend to give posts like this 3 reads.

If I can’t understand it after 3 then I move along. Typically applies to ozncoop posts, colin, rhubarb (sober and drunk), tdogg, and wu’s posts. I did not understand botd’s post either.

"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

floyd pitches from the strech when he has a runner on first right?

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 1:36 AM CDT reply actions  

The way he holds runners on, you would think he didn't

3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10

by Kyle321N on Aug 17, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just got home from the game

I lost track of the times and ways that we should have won, but we did!

Tonight’s game was the key one of the series, I think, since we have Buehrle going next. With both teams having tired bullpens, Buehrle hopefully will out pitch and outlast Carmona. Then Humber can try for the sweep.

Second place is within reach, although I’ll be happy with 2 out of 3.

Now to bed, and then to work.

Baseball is life.

by elgonzo4sox on Aug 17, 2011 1:37 AM CDT reply actions  

forcing an early appearance by the bullpen tommorrow

could go a long way towards fucking the indians.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 1:40 AM CDT reply actions  

From LetsGoTribe

forcing an early appearance by the bullpen tommorrow
could go a long way towards fucking the sox.

3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10

by Kyle321N on Aug 17, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i hope that actually appeared

i cant keep track of which blogs do and dont allow profanity.

but buehrle will pitch through shine and shit.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

flowers and a fancy dinner

could go a long way towards fucking the sox.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

steak dinner = boom?

a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee

by big_fun on Aug 17, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Down at Palisades Park.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hurry home early- Hurry on home, Boom Boom Mancini is fighting Bobby Chacon.

“They asked him who was responsible for the death of Doo Koo Kim.
Said someone shoulda stopped the fight, told me it was him.
They made hypocrite judgements
After the fact
but the name of the game is
be hit and hit back”

RIP Warren Zevon.

"His Load got Sloppy" Colintj

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 17, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

x

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

RRRR, stream-of-consciousness drivel, here, but

kids today will never know the sensation of putting on a 45, and just watching the label spin around while it plays. Coolest were the yellow and orange Capitol labels, VJ was cool, just watching the little rainbow change back and forth.

You kids don’t realize what simple fun your generation has killed.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame us, not the kidz.

If we weren’t high and tripping we wouldn’t have cared about stereo and would’ve settled for the mono 45’s.

Of course if we hadn’t been high and tripping, the kidz wouldn’t be around today.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

iPods are cool, and all, carrying your entire record collection with you on vacation, or whatever.

I love when you play an album, like Deja Vu, and invariably, somebody will skulk up, look around, and tell you that they cleaned their first bag of pot in the fold of that album. Or Frampton Comes Alive, or the White Album.

It’s pretty uncanny.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys had to clean your pot back then?

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was a time when they had to train teachers

who didn’t know what it looked or smelled like.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brings back some great memories.

And you think the parents/teachers portrayed on The Disney Channel are stupid.

by winningugly on Aug 17, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll stop after this...

but there’s a visceral, physical connection we had to music. The look of the labels, album artwork (how many families owned Houses of the Holy wrapped in paper, or had to throw out the cover), cleaning pot, going out and buying your first album as a 10-year-old to the neighborhood record store/head shop, and how you felt kind of scared, dirty, edgy.

They way you had your head plastered to the radio all day to hear that new song that sounded like the Stones, but couldn’t be because of that crazy new guitar sound, or whatever.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That physical connection is still there for me somewhat..

I prefer to buy real CD’s even though I have an Ipod. I realize it’s not the same as a record, but I can relate to wanting the physical object over MP3s.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 17, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. It's a tactile thing for me

Especially with vinyl. I’m 39. When I was 9 or 10, my dad took me to a record store where I purchased my first three 45s: Neil Diamond’s “Heartlight,” Pointer Sisters’ “I’m So Excited,” and “Dirty Laundry” by Don Henley.

He passed his love of music and records along to me. Most of my collection is on CD, but I have hundreds and hundreds of LPs (mostly jazz and indie rock). The sound quality is unparalleled.

by Name's Dalton on Aug 17, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was a time you could go to Salvation Army stores

and they had pretty good record bins. You’d find some pretty cool stuff, like entire Harry Belefonte collections in good condition.

Now, if there are any 45’s stuffed into the corner of the CD section, they’re all broken and scratched.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

you should watch 'the music never stopped'

i think you’d enjoy it.

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've discussed this very issue with my best friend several times.

He argues that the sound quality of vinyl is superior to digital media – CDs, mp3s, etc. I argue that while he (and many others) may prefer the nuances of vinyl – the imperfections, the tone of bass, etc. – it’s impossible for vinyl to be as good or better in quality than digital, because digital is a more exact, more perfect replication of the original sound produced.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am shock. Both of you.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

digital limits the range intake

if it’s outside of the 24 bit spectrum, it never gets captured. Analog catches stuff that isn’t even in the range that humans hear, but it’s there.

I’ve not completely looked into this, but when you clean up analog recordings, there’s things there that will always remain for the life of the original recording. You can remaster and bring out the cymbals, or whatever. Again, digital is limited.

Now, of course, digital is almost as good, and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to work with, so there’s that.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

A reasonable explanation beyond "you're wrong!".

This makes sense.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

All you have to do is listen to vinyl to know it

the science of it doesn’t matter. Your stubborness has crossed into ignorance.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Knock it off.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

placebo exists.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

that and

You’re wrong!

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much better, thank you!

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're fine, RW. i got your back.

there’s a conflation between “digital” and CD-quality or, worse, mp3 quality.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's why i said "fine" and not "not wrong"

if you think mp3 quality sucks, you’d be better off with an uncompressed recording.
if you think CD quality sucks, get a recording recorded in a higher sample rate and/or bit-depth.
if your stereo sucks, get a better one.

the technology exists and has existed for some time.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't mind Rhub, his stubbornness has crossed into ignorance.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

One the many differences between me and you is

I have a record player AND a stereo w/tape/CD (that is 20 years old w/PolkAudio speakers) AND an iPod with a Phillips Dock. I have it all and I use it all. I prefer the sound of vinyl.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right; my beloved Pioneer SX 780 is far too digital and newfangled for me to know anything about anything.

Put the tape measure away, and PLEASE stop pretending you know a damn thing about me. You don’t.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I was trying to pointout is that I enjoy music through all mediums and believe vinyl has a sound that is different and can be considered superior by some

Buy a record player to use with your vintage receiver then buy an old Ratt record or whatever it is you listen to and try to tell me differently.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, I'm aware of all of that.

And I own records and used to own a record player. I know what I like. What I’m desperately trying to convey to you is that I don’t just form opinions without knowing the goddamn difference, which, for some reason, is what you seem to think I do.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ratt! lol

"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 17, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

ROUND AND ROUND

what goes around comes around

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's the only one making a valid argument for me

you can say you prefer vinyl or it sounds warmer or all of that.

but if you say it is a more faithful reproduction of the actual sound because the little pits in that groove are more accurate than digital sampling can be, then you’re losing me. not to mention that the vinyl changes every single time you play it.

by Trooper on Aug 17, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, it's all a matter of taste as far as I can tell.

That post was just me sticking Rhub with the same condescending bullshit line he laid on me earlier in the conversation. Can’t punch someone in the face via the interwebs, so that was the next best option I had.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you taken your heart meds today?

Just lay off the soda and you can lose 15 pounds in 2 months. If you don’t have a bike, get one and ride it on the lake shore.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I started picking my kid up from daycare on my bike

lost almost 10 lbs in the last month without changing anything else.

by Trooper on Aug 17, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've cut out the weekday fast food lunches and all non-alcohol-mixed soda.

Already seeing results, so I’m in it for the long haul. But it’ll be a cold day in hell when I stop drinking Captain & Coke on the weekends.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm arguing the latter part of your statement

my personal opinion is that the first part is placebo effect or a shitty recording or playback device.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

and that's why I exist.

to get it right the first time. you’re all welcome.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

better said

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not much, if any. More of a "color" thing, especially if you knew the original.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

"color" ?

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pearls before swine.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

pffft....... buggywhips before car owners.

;-)

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you were ever one to put on the head-phones

and listen to every last second of a song while it faded, you might catch a little, but yeah, I agree with Chiburb that there is a timber to the sound that is different digitally.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

your OPOS hearing can't tell the difference.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

mercy

24-bit is a hell of a lot of dynamic range (difference between the loudest and softest part of the sample). you’re thinking of shannon-nyquist, which says audible frequency range is half of sampling rate. human range of hearing is 20Hz-20kHz (in theory, most people cap out somewhere in the teens, OPOS even lower), so CD being sampled at 44.1kHz sets the range around what humans can hear. if the recorder wants to include those higher-frequency resonances, just set the sampling rate higher.

another note on higher-frequency stuff: your amplifier

“clean up”? everything was recorded as separate tracks. that’s how you bring out the cymbals. and those remasterings probably happened on, you guess it, digital equipment.

nothing is cheap in the pro market.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

shit.

*your amplifier or your speaker probably has high- and low- pass filters around the 20Hz to 20kHz spectrum as it is. you won’t be getting those frequencies you think you need. maybe the resonances.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was guessing a lot of what they were talking about was coming through tube amps.

regardless, i’m sure its the sound of specific equipment they really mean to argue for and not analog vs digital.

by Trooper on Aug 17, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's all analog on the wires going to the speaker driver from the amp

i’m eye-rolling at all the vinyl love and scorn of CD as the counterpoint. there are much higher fidelity digital settings than 44.1/16 (which has already been accepted as “pretty dang good”) and much better DACs than what comes in your boombox/ipod.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

nobody's scorning CDs

there is a difference from vinyl to digital.

vinyl is an actual percussive rendering of sound. Digital is an electronic recreation thereof.

It is different.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

what? they're both recreations.

both take a sine wave from the source, record it, and the playback device decodes it to a sine wave which is fed to the amplifier.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't seriously think that "vinyl is better" is some kind of hipster marketing scheme, do you?

There is a reason that companies do special issues in vinyl. It’s more expensive, not portable, can only really be played in one place, and everything that’s less than 20 years old is on CD or iTunes.

Yes, 24 bit pretty much encapsulates the human hearing range. There is a physical difference to the sound. You may not hear it, care about it, or even experience the different timbre to the sound.

That doesn’t mean the difference isn’t there and that others don’t experience it.

Up until the late 60’s, everything was 4-track, and everything was mastered and ping-ponged. There is no isolated drum track for The Beatles Please, Please Me. There is for the latest Dave Matthews album, but nobody who uses music for anything above drowning out the voices gives a shit about them.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes. i do.

if there is a true difference in the sound it can be measured and turned into a DSP filter. as mentioned above, there are already filters to add in random pops and hisses that people seem to miss from older recordings.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

as Rhubarb said

I’m getting out of my league with Hz rates and all.

I give up.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think this is an "agree to disagree" or both of us arguing different points

i’m steeped in the tech side of it 8 hours a day. hell, right now i’m at my desk listening in a digital system where the weakest sampling rate and bitrate is the CD wav rip in my computer and the signal stays digital all the way to the digital-audio-converter in the amplifiers right before it hits the speaker coils.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's funny because I'm usually the one making fun of my audio-phile buddies

I recognize the difference. I just don’t care as much. I’m happy to blast my iPod through the Yamaha outdoor speakers. I’m usually to drunk to sit and pick out the nuances.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

the horror!

i hope you report these inhumane work conditions to OSHA

by moroots on Aug 17, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't buy the "unparalleled".

higher sampling rates and bit-depths during recording/playback, far better ADCs/DACs and DSPs nowadays, and the emergence of digital amplifiers eliminate whatever “extra” it is people feel they get more of with an analog recording. and the same sound will be reproduced (at least the final signal on the way to the speaker driver) the same way, every damn time.

i would wager that most of what is new on vinyl, unless hand-rolled by the most indie, was recorded on digital equipment at some point in the chain first.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

No thanks. I don't have the space and don't want the excess crap.

Give me digital files, baby.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm the same way with dvds.

Can’t wait until I have my own place and buy an apple tv. I’m going all digital. that way i have more room for my books.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I had a lot of vinyl (I’m 42) but I got rid of it. It took up a lot of space, not to mention the stereo on which to play them (“and where the hell did I put that spare needle?”). Yeah, I get nostalgia for the sound, but it passes. And the advantage of the simplicity outweighs the fond feelings for me. Being able to keep the whole collection on a drive is sweet.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Aug 17, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sell-out.

Cling to the past! Adaptation is the Devil!

by winningugly on Aug 17, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!!!

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think I keep their momentos around?

Clean slate, including furniture. I am like a GD MASH unit with the speed in which I can “bug out”.

by winningugly on Aug 17, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Most of my music is on digital

but my favorite albums I have on digital AND vinyl.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This. Not to mention that not all were re-released on CD.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

For whatever reason, I'll go and buy

physical copies of Kanye West, but everybody else is digital. As for vinyl….psht…I’m 24. I used to think those things were frisbees as a kid.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your loss brother

I went into a Target 4 years ago and asked some kid where I could find the boomboxes with tape decks and he asked me why i didn’t just get an mp3 player.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get the nostalgia factor , but I've been on this compression kick all year.

Getting rid of as much of my crap as possible. Ripped all my dvds into my computer, sold my tv, can’t wait to get rid of (most) of my cds, sold the big stereo, donated more than half of my old sweatshirts/t-shirts, blah blah blah. Now I need to figure out what to do with the tons and tons and tons of Star Trek toys I have.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't all about nostalgia, I'm only 32, I remember playing records when I was a kid

it just sounds better. It is knitpicking though because digital sound fine but vinyl does sound more “full”, especially when smoking grass.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, kinda.

I also just don’t want as much shit. Moving out of my parents place made me realize just how much I actually have.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best part of moving from apartment to apartment

every year in my early/mid 20s was that I never accumulated a ton of shit I didn’t need.

Been in my current place for 4 years now. Storage space in the closets and garage appears to be dwindling. Disheartening.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was pretty proud of my fairly small load when we moved into my own house.

then a year later my dad called and said ’we’re selling the house, come get your shit’. mercy.

by Trooper on Aug 17, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

if my parents ever tell me to come get my baseball cards... i'm in major trouble.

my wife would probably want me to throw them out. id rather join WU on the divorce party then part with my 1992 fleer ultra’s.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

what cards do you have?

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

practically everything baseball from 82-98 or so.

but i have my fair share after 98 as well.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice. if you had to pick your top 5 or so what would they be?

i have every card from 1995 to 2000 and a fair amount before and after that.

i also have about 300 craig biggio and have no idea why. i stopped buying cards in packs a while ago but i still go looking for rookie cards and what not once a year at fairs/shows ect

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

my top 5 favorite cards?

1. Ron Kittle 84 topps
2. Bo Jackson football/baseball 1990 score
3. Frank Thomas 90 leaf
4. Ken Griffey 89 upper deck
5. Ivan Calderon 88 Donruss Diamond King

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

also i loved 92 bowman...

i got a box when they first came out for cheap… and then they shot up like crazy. i had the mike piazza rookie in that set. at one time it was “worth” like 100 bucks. pretty exciting for a 13 year old.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

my favorite sets were

1. 1984 topps
2. 1993 leaf
3. 1992 bowman
4. 1992 fleer ultra
5. 1993 upper deck
6. 1987 fleer
7. 1989 fleer
8. 1982 upper deck
9. 1983 upper deck
10. 1992 stadium club
11. 1987 score

i dont know i liked em all except the late 80s/early 90s donruss were pretty brutal.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

number 8&9= topps not upper deck.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Topps '71, bitches!

black border was pretty cool, considering what had come before, and the snazzy 70’s bullshit afterwards.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i always liked topps 84

probably because that was the next set to come out after i really got into baseball during the fall of 83. but it had the 2 pictures and the team name running down the side. pretty snazzy.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just realized he looks like Napoleon Dynamite there

"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 17, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was a fuckup kid

mangled and drew on my baseball and football cards. When the whole OJ thing happened, there were articles about the price of memorabilia.

I was sure I remembered his 1970 rookie card, so I dug through my shit, and sure enough, there I had a fairly pristine OJ Simpson rookie card.

With his eyes punched out.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol nice job.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice

my top few would be
1. Frank Thomas 90 bowman (signed)
2. Ozzie Guillen 85 topps (signed)
3. Steve Stone 72 + 77 signed
4. Omar Vizquel 89 Fleer (looks the same)
5. Jim Thome 92 Upperdeck (he looks so different)
6. Robin Ventura 89 topps
7. Harold Baines 81 topps
8. Mark Buehrle 05 jersey card
9. Alexei Ramirez 08 topps
10. Santos 2002 minors card with SS symbol
I also have an Addison Reed bowmans card, nellie fox and billy peirce 59 all star cards, a hawk harrelsen card, hoyt willhelm jersey card, and beckham, mcguire, zimmerman, schilling, sosa, fielder, glavine and carlos lee rookie cards

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I brought my beer can collection home

ended up in a bit of a tiff. In anger, I took about a dozen cans I really wanted, and put the rest in the alley.

Showed her.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, my mom always tries to give me boxes to take back to Seattle when I visit.

The day my sister and her manage to get me to take my high school yearbooks, I will have lost the good fight.

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first time you move with kids

You’ll be amazed how much crap gets stored and never used again. I think we threw away boxes of kids meal toys on our last one.

by justjc on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

A tenant moved a few years back - had 2 daughters

we filled up all the garbage cans with shit, and had garbage bags in queue in the back yard for a couple of weeks.

They were divorced, so they kind of competed by buying the kids tons of shit.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It ake it he or she was older than four.

Unless the Kindle made a great teething device.

by justjc on Aug 18, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Que?

She’s 8 and I just bought it 2 months ago.

by winningugly on Aug 18, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I even put a bunch of albums in iTunes

every once in a while, I’ll hook up the turntable, and let fly with the mono version of Revolver. I was never really into Harrison’s “Love You Too” until I heard it in mono.

The chorus just hums out of the speakers in a way that the analog stereo version never did. They would just fiddle with the knobs differently on left and right to suppress sound on one, and leave it go on the other.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

and something recorded and mixed to 6 distinct channels is going to sound better than something recorded in stereo and ran through pro-logicII to get the 5.1.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about all the techspeak when it comes to sound

but I do know that I enjoy listening to vinyl because to me it sounds different and vibrant. Most of my listening comes through CD or mp3 though but I know what I like and what I think sounds better. If I am sitting in my den and I have a vinyl version and a CD version of Dear You in front of me, I am going to play the vinyl version everytime.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

i guess what i meant was that taking something that was originally recorded one way

and trying to get more channels (mono-to-stereo, stereo-to-5.1) out of it through jiggery-pokery is of course going to sound worse than the original recording or a mix that’s meant for the channels desired.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why I'm a huge fan of DVD-A.

Intentional surround recordings in 5.1 boosted to 7.1 in my 17 speaker Lexicon car system.
But I think I’ve mentioned that before.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think we did talk about that and you confused me at 17 speakers to 8 channels until i looked it up

though the 5.1-7.1 is still jiggery-pokery on the 2 back-back rears. i sure as shit can’t tell the difference on my home system, if there’s enough signal on the rears to begin with.

the only time i’ve heard “true” 7.1 was a blu-ray that was recorded that way.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

My system

http://hyundai.lexicon.com/system.aspx

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, fuckit it's a RRRR freeforall

We lived down the street from the Polk Bros. We’d go to musicland, and buy a single. They’d put it in that thin bag with the orange and white swirl, fold the top of the bag over, crease it nicely, and tape it shut with shitty, thin scotch tape. The old kind that turned yellow.

You get home, and carefully pull it from the bag, saving the bag, for some reason, put the single on the changer, and then clean off the invisible dust attracted by the static electricity with that juice and pad. You’d put the needle on by hand, because the old turntable would bounce the needle a bit, and just stand there, watching the Parrot, or MGM, or ABC-Dunhill label twirl.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The old black one, not the 70's orange

United Artists had an awesome label. Atlantic’s was ballsy, never liked Electra/Asylum.

A&M’s trumpet one was cool, hated the airy one from the 70’s.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you still write letters instead of emailing

Just so you can feel the weight of the paper, neatly fold the crease of the envelope, get the stale glue high from licking it shut, and keep up relations with Mr. McFeely? I am not nostalgic for records (or cds for that matter) that scratched too easily and required a room full of library shelves to store. I am happy to live in digital times and have tens of thousands of songs at my fingertips at any moment.

by justjc on Aug 17, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You gotta admit

it is exciting to get a hand-written letter. When you see one amidst all the bullshit junk mail, one that’s actually written, and not in some sneaky font, because marketers know we look for hand-addressed envelopes first.

I’m too lazy to even write checks anymore.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It usually means someone died.

One reason we only go to the mailbox once or twice a week.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

We throw everything in a tub by the door.

and sort through it once a month. People usually call if they sent you their daughter’s wedding invitation and are waiting for an RSVP.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck you people who don't respond to RSVPs.

You know how much a pain in the ass that is when you have to do it for everyone who does the same thing?

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously, if I'm your uncle, I'm coming to your wedding

and probably going to drop some coin in the envelope, too.

Fuck you people who freak out over your little “weddings” and “anniversaries”. Besides, I’ll probably be hung over and late. Have beer at the church.

Love ya.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking as to the wedding invites - It's not a matter of knowing you are coming,

It’s the cumulative time it takes to find out if everyone you’ve invited is coming or not. And if you are my Uncle (or any of the other family that usually have to be invited,) I don’t have your phone number cause I never call you. So instead of getting the self addressed stamped postcard back in the mail from you, now I gotta find someone who has your phone number, cause I don’t. When you multiply this by all the people you have to invite to a wedding many of whom you just can’t assume are coming and gonna give you some coin, it turns into a pain.

It takes like 30 seconds to check off yes or no, and then your meal options. It’s one thing if it gets lost at the bottom of a pile and you truly meant to return it but didn’t. It’s seriously rude to not do it on purpose and make someone call. It makes things more difficult for whoever is planning, and that shit is a pain of enough in the ass.

And back at ya. :)

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

what if you have two weddings in different states on the same day?

and cant decide between a great friend or your youngest cousin and go back and forth daily?

I think i have to go to the family one, but not sure enough to mail the little envelopes yet.

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

you gotta pick family for the pictures - but you'll have more fun at the friends'

my wife went to mexico for her cousin’s wedding while I stayed home for my friends’ and then flew out afterwards.

That’s the worst.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I always mean to send it back

but when I ask the wife, the calendar has to come out, and we have to discuss the 3 possibilities of vacations we had previously discussed, I have to remember all of the travel plans of everybody in my department. If I get through that in the same sitting, there’s always a work outing or two we have to go to and be hung over the next day, visiting family, and all kinds of stuff that invariably stops the conversation cold until one of us has to find something out from someone, and then being decrepit, old fucks of 48, hear the cat meowing for food, forget the whole conversation and have to do it from scratch when she finds the invite 2 weeks from now.

Call your Grandfather, for chrissakes! He’s griping about how his miserable grandchildren never call him.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

did you know what your meals were before sending out the invites?

i’m currently withholding a little envelope out of spite because i don’t know what fish or how the chicken is being served and they haven’t gone to their tastings yet.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, you are a hipster

just don’t seal the envelope, and bring a 2nd check if you have to adjust.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, I would never get fish at an event like a wedding.

Just way too much could go wrong there. And most people don’t put a description of what exact meal you are getting, it’s just chicken, beef, fish, etc.

Just get the chicken and send it back.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's friends i hang out with all the time and i work with the bride, so they realize i'm just trying to get a rise out of them

i’ll hand-deliver it over drinks next week. i’m only leery of the chicken because there’s always the chance of a mushroom sauce. and i fucking hate the taste of fungi.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugggh. Bad catering mushroom sauce is the worst.

I went to one at the start of the year where I got the beef. Gravy with mushrooms topped it. That shit had to be powdered at some point. Made it real easy to get drunk that night, cause I didn’t eat anything but my roll.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

you put more value in a hand-written letter

the same way you put more value in a vinyl record. the act of putting the record on with more than a double-click commands your attention.

by craigws on Aug 17, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I still take the convenience, but I'll admit I do put more value in the hand written letter.

I did sell off all the vinyls though. I never heard a difference but I also spent eight years in the military around aircraft engines so it would have to be a pretty big difference for me to catch it anyway.

by justjc on Aug 17, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

We all are happy to live in digital times for the reasons you express.

That doesn’t mean there weren’t positives from back in the day, or that we shouldn’t talk about them.
Lighten up Francis.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

hell yes.

its not porn unless somebody’s getting lost in the bushes.

by Trooper on Aug 17, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like a dinosaur for having a

porno dvd.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta have the backup for when the internet goes down.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can't imagine what the title would be

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

2011 White Sox Baseball.

I’m into snuff films.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 18, 2011 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I enjoy getting post cards and real magazines in the mail

but not official bills and stuff. Excess paper leads to bugs.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love sending hand-written (filling every inch of blank space) cards to friends.

I write stream of consciousness like I’m sitting with them and having a conversation. They are always keepers.

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

whenever I have to sign a card at work

I’ll put “Hey, I’m John G, signed, John G”

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

they made us do the stupid birthday cards at work

and they’d lay them all out at the beginning of the month. i once signed my own birthday card because i put 0 thought into any of it.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This brings up another question:

How long do you hold on to holiday/b-day cards before chucking ‘em? I’m getting fewer and fewer sentimental as the years progress.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Aug 17, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

depends who they are from

and whether or not they actually wrote something nice on the inside (which is the entire point of the damn things).
i chuck most of mine.

by craigws on Aug 17, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The ones Obama personally send to me last a few months

the ones from Ghadaffi go right to the shredder.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

They get chucked the day after whatever day they commemorate.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heartless. But yeah, fuck clutter.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Aug 17, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i need to have that mindset

i have saved almost every letter ever. its taking up half my closet space

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 18, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

i kept most of the ones from my grandma.

and i have a few from my wife from before she was my wife somewhere at my parents house… but yah other than that? 99.9 percent are dumped.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dug out the old family record player at the beginning of this summer

and have been playing beatles tunes on it all summer long. i tell everyone its a novelty thing whenever they ask why I don’t just get some cds

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

kind of weird

but a lot of their stuff actually sounds better in the original mono instead of the fake stereo.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should hear it in 7.1

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes!

:D

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry, missed this

I don’t know what 7.1 is.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keehrist, are you a woman?

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

By which I mean

My dad once told me that surround sound was practically a dead format because not many people have 8+ speakers in their homes because many people have wives.

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm... maybe you only need 6 for surround?

Regardless!

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's 5.1

the number before the point is how many full-range speakers, the number after is subwoofers (“floor unit”). your local movie theater might be running 10.2, for instance.

placement guide for 5,6,7.1: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-cwlEZnPKphC/learn/learningcenter/home/speaker_placement.html

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting

thanks

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 min. Is correct. 8 for 7.1

Btw, 5.1:
2front
2 rear
1 sub

7.1:
1additional on each side.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, thx

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't disagree

my mom pipes music through the house speakers all day and the quality just isnt there compared to a vinyl

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

the remasters from a couple of years ago are excellent.

bothered me to learn how much of a difference there was between the mono & stereo, now i have to have them both.

by craigws on Aug 17, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's pretty amazing

I’ve heard that there’s instrumentation you never really noticed because it was kind of buried in the mix.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think the general consensus is that they did a fairly shoddy job

with the sound quality of the cds in the 80’s. then that was the mix used for the next 20 years.
so those that complained about beatles vinyl sounding way better than the cds had a valid point. at least until 2009.

by craigws on Aug 17, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might look into that. I really didn't want to buy everything a 3rd time

Paul McCartney and Yoko really don’t need my money.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

go on youtube and listen to a few songs on hd,

then compare that to your cds.
that doesn’t sound like it’d be the best method for comparison, but the difference is that clear. i remember being startled listening to the start of ‘come together’.

observe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCpODFwR7U4

by craigws on Aug 17, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can mostly hear it in the drums

and it seems like in the old CD version, Lennon’s voice is slightly noise-gated too.

The little 7th chord or whatever that hits with the top of the bass run is clearer and a little more out front instead of getting clipped.

That’s pretty cool.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey! not fair

cds are reflective and even refract light (that the term I’m looking for?) and allow you to see the actual light spectrum, not just colors printed on a record.

"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 17, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

For putting under sweaty beer cans.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

It tastes better out of a bottle.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not as cool as the iTunes visualizer or the AlbumArtWorkScreenSaver

while stoned.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cmon guys.........

And yes vinyl is better. Older.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

A bit more detail on tonight's Worst. Umpiring. Ever.

For starters, Laz Diaz called 27 pitches incorrectly.

(Courtesy of Brooks Baseball.)

That’s 19 strikes that should have been balls, and 8 balls that should have been strikes. Of the 27, 17 were in the White Sox’s favor, but two of the balls in Will Ohman’s first walk were in the strike zone. And that’s not even getting into the blown calls around the bases:

  • It appears that De Aza should have been out at third on his second triple.
  • I think he was also tagged out on that drag bunt single in the 10th.
  • Carlos Quentin and Travis Hafner were each victims to ridiculous check swing calls. Carlos didn’t swing, and Diaz called him for it without an appeal; Hafner wasn’t even close but got rung up by Scott Berry at third.
  • There was some controversy on whether Alexei interfering with a runner going to third should have entitled Choo to second, since he had to hold up. That one was a bit tougher, and I’m not sure if they got it right when they kept him at first.

Am I forgetting anything?

So yes, I would say the Indians got the short end of the stick with several calls tonight, but I think it’s rather silly to say that the umpiring cost them this game.

"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson

by mikecws91 on Aug 17, 2011 2:21 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't think the tag on the bunt was in time.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 7:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that red square waaaaaaaaay down below the strike zone,

that was sale against marson in the 7th. possibly the most hilarious call of the evening.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Aug 17, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

human factor!

Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg

by Jack M on Aug 17, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Super Tasty Donut.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 2:28 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Dr. Gavin and Mr. Floyd

Floyd’s WHIP (1.22) ranks a respectable T21st out of AL starters. Yet out of those 22 starters, the nearest ERA to Floyd’s is Colby Lewis’ 4.01 (1.19 WHIP). He’s often been at the bottom of the LOB% rankings for the past four years. Is there something that can be improved?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/league/al/sort/WHIP/order/false

by Kodachrome on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 AM CDT reply actions  

One more bullet: Sox pitchers K'd 19!

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Aug 17, 2011 5:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

April 15th - tax day.

OK, we’ve paid the price. Let’s keep moving.

by winningugly on Aug 17, 2011 6:40 AM CDT reply actions  

your're gonna pay alright.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gonna see a lot of Flowers these next few weeks...

if not the rest of the season. Here’s hoping he keeps this up.

by polodude017 on Aug 17, 2011 7:04 AM CDT reply actions  

If his line drive would have gone thru

I would have been unbearable. Wait. I’m already unbearable.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 7:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Goin to the game today,

back on the bandwagon baby!

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Aug 17, 2011 7:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I was upset at the time when Rios was put

in center. DeAza+ q> DeAza + Rios defensively. The horror!

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 7:28 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

just put rios in right

it’s almost like this managing shit is hard.

by larry on Aug 17, 2011 8:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought the same thing.

Replay from behind home plate showed how late of a break Rios had to begin with. It appeared to me the Rios was content with letting it drop & not kicking it into high gear to make a play. De Aza proved he could have gotten there a play later buy busting his butt to get to a single & holding the lead runner at 2nd.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Aug 17, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indefensible was pulling Konerko in favor of Omar

like someone said in the gamethread, can we atleast get Konerko to 2nd base before you pull him?

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Rios's ball down the line would have been fair

Omar would have scored from first easily.

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Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
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by Kyle321N on Aug 17, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, I don't know about easily

left field is where Cleveland had stashed their competent outfielder for the evening

by WSO on Aug 17, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

once he got a bad jump, i’d prefer he didn’t dive or something considering that certainly would have scored the run if it got past him. he shouldn’t be in center in that situation. blaming rios is pointing the finger in the wrong direction.

by larry on Aug 17, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

agree (somewhat) the finger goes through Rios to Ozzy

the lack of hustle should be recognized

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Aug 17, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe I need to watch again

but (after drinking wine-so my angle might have been skewed) I thought he was 2 steps from catching the ball & let up. Excluding that play, his effort is IMO in question

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Aug 17, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

this

Jim Thome sponsor(s) this page.
Highly underrated, Mark Kotsay became the best defensive designated hitter in American League history in 2010.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 17, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't you heard?

This is Ozzie’s best year managing ever.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh. How many times do I have to bring this up?

That’s in the non-baseball sense.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Aug 17, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

As in not maiking any sense

I think Tdogg is ripping on the Joe Cowley piece from yesterday though

by justjc on Aug 17, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i stopped watching the game with flowers on third and 2 out in the bottom of the ninth.

specifically i turned off the tv after beckham swung and missed the 2-1 pitch by pesano. it might seem like a strange time but i think i’m starting to realize that this team is bad for my health.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Aug 17, 2011 7:38 AM CDT reply actions  

not after.

i turned it off during beckham’s at bat.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Aug 17, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

ditto

and rec’d…FTW

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton

by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 17, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same.

And this was obviously the right call.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably the wise choice..

I should have known after that first swing it wouldn’t end well.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 17, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I turned off the gamecast and went to bed

after Rios was stranded on 3rd after the leadoff triple.

11:00pm. Fuck them. I wasn’t about to stay up to 1:00am.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I gave up after AB also

because work baconed (not a typo) & I thought I might keel over from a stroke. F bad defense! FIITA!!!

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Aug 17, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

This season

in the “sleep vs watching the Sox play extras,” sleep will ALWAYS win.

by LockportSox on Aug 17, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

This morning when I saw it went to the 14th inning I was pretty happy with my decision.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 17, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

this

although if we lost I wouldn’t have been able to sleep either

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 17, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

same here.

Little Bighorn. Classic small sample size. -Skancho Danza

by keystone connection on Aug 17, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly what I did

& eventually found sleep 2hrs later. On 3rd cup of coffee this am…

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Aug 17, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i always watch until the end.

i needed to stick around and see what casualties were dragged out of the burning pile of debris.

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he was I'm worried about him

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 8:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

same

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

No worries.

Donny was sent to save him.

by winningugly on Aug 17, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think Donny's out of his element.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

my understanding was that Dl is an element?

less atomic mass than pluthomeum, but much more reactive when placed in contact with baseballs

by evenyoudorn on Aug 17, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

THE 9TH INNING AT BAT!!!!!!

I’m over Beckham.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

his approach is just rough

he’s not recognizing pitches. dude looks lost up there.

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep he just flails these days.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

where does donny stand on flagellation?

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's not his shoulder.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

as-sadon ah-lucyum

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah! none of that sprinklin' nonsense!
we’ll be holding a mass baptism (full immersion, of course)

"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 17, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

and a most shocking development here!

I dunno where he’d get such a blasphemous idea.

"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ

by Shoeless In SC on Aug 17, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Out-fucking-standing.

Especially for a Jew.

Wait, it’s movie trivia. Ohhhhhh…

by winningugly on Aug 17, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

say "what" one more time!!!

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Aug 17, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else impressed by De Aza's base running?

He has aggressively taken some extra bases. Obviously, it’s a small sample and he got lucky a few times. Hopefully it impresses Ozzie enough to keep giving him playing time.

by joewho112 on Aug 17, 2011 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

only saw highlights on MLB network

But I imagined Hawk dusting off his “Love to watch Ray run” line.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Aug 17, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

For those who missed the game, Hawk said something after a 10 year old kid caught a foulball,

In a musing and nostalgic Hawk voice, “The baseball is the smartest thing on the field.”

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 8:59 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Great moment

That kid and his brother’s reaction to getting the foul ball were adorable. If I ever have a son he better be a baseball-loving nerd like that.

Fuck nick swisher

by sti3 on Aug 17, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a great moment but Hawk's musings on the matter

were nonsensical. So the baseball is the smartest thing on the field because it found the kids glove and can make someone happy? It didn’t make sense even metaphorically. I actually heard Steve Stone’s mouth holding back a quip after he said that.

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stone Poney, why is it...

That when somebody makes a biblical argument against homosexuality, they say “God didn’t create Adam and Steve”?

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I got my first green threadpost

My life is somehow more complete. This game seems almost a poetic and fitting way to break through the .500 barrier. Too bad I had to leave to make my tee time after the 11th. Following on a Blackberry just is not as satisfying. I will use the distraction as an excuse for the worst 9 holes of golf I have played in decades.

Am I wrong to block out my morning calendar to follow the White Sox game?

by Old School ChiTown on Aug 17, 2011 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I really think last nights game broke the Indians season

Their bullpen is decimated, we beat them in their own fashion, we have Buehrle going tonight, they play the Tigers this weekend…

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so although

it would be nice of them to beat the Tigers a game or two.

Am I wrong to block out my morning calendar to follow the White Sox game?

by Old School ChiTown on Aug 17, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Long night!

I said earlier this year this is the toughest team in the league to cheer for and they keep living up to the repuation they wont go away even though they consistently almost bury themselves, they make so many easy things extremely difficult, mismanaged alignments defensively, head scratching guys in the lineup, ect ect ect, all to the tune of just 3.5 out with lots of games to play and the first time above 500 in 5 months… this is whitesox baseball

Umpiring note, its absolutely pathetic to watch the guys who grade out in the lowest tier year after year continue to umpire major league games, these guys have less accountability then greg walker.

by Knoxfire30 on Aug 17, 2011 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Just think how Indians fans must feel

they lost to the toughest team in the league to cheer for

by Rhubarb on Aug 17, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indians

been playing over their heads all year, time to watch them crumble!!!!!!

by Knoxfire30 on Aug 17, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

true

i should have said watch the finale of the crumble when its more prevaliant in aug-sept

by Knoxfire30 on Aug 17, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I'd say it's been under 10 games that have been fun to watch this year.

and 9-10 would be pushing it. It’s only been since the humiliation at the hands of the Yanks that they seem to have awoken, and put a game away early, every now and then.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funniest tweet of the evening.

Andrew Siciliano:

I’m not kidding: On STO’s call of Juan Pierre’s HR, you could hear Hawk Harrelson cheering “Get up! Get up!” from the booth next door.

by asinwreck on Aug 17, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

that's interesting

because hawk did not ever say “get up” when juan pierre hit his home run.
listen for yourself. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_08_16_clemlb_chamlb_1&mode=video

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Aug 17, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps Hawk's HR call is an mp3 he plays

and at that time, Stone collapsed over the prospect of Juan Pierre actually playing the game like a reasonable facsimile of a baseball player.

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

FDL

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

GHATDL

gently hug and thank…

sideways smiley face

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he was protection for every batter.

The Indians were terrified he would pinch hit at any time.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 17, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

rose goes in the front big guy

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Aug 17, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I kept looking for a good gif for breaking through the .500 barrier

but I am giving up to go to bed. Here’s to not seeing .500 again until 2012.

Am I wrong to block out my morning calendar to follow the White Sox game?

by Old School ChiTown on Aug 17, 2011 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

This guy obviously has mad time on his hands and is a Tiger fan but this is pretty nice

pitching_matchups

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

On pace

to miss King Felix but not Weaver.

No Verlander next Detroit series but I’d expect some shuffling for him to see the Pale Hose.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Aug 17, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

So we can own him again? I'm for it.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carmona vs. MB

I like it. Let’s hand Fausto his lunch again.

Sabermetrics hurt my head, just give me the facts.

by CATDADDY47 on Aug 17, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was working with this guy who had a heart attack on the job.

The ambulance took him away and I ate his lunch.

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

was the lunch indicative of why he was taken away in the ambulance?

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Aug 17, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

nah.

standard sack lunch fare. boring sanwich, some chips, couple cookies, etc.

he was one of those pissed off all the time about everything types.

I actually told him a week before ‘hey man you need to calm down, you’re going to have a heart attack.’

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

how else was i supposed to get a free lunch?

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So there is such a thing!

White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.

by greenlight on Aug 17, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

no such thing

he lost friend, for the afternoon at least

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i hate those kinds of people

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus H. Chen!

for the love of Donny, why?

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Aug 17, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chen is Tiamat to Donny's Marduk

Little Bighorn. Classic small sample size. -Skancho Danza

by keystone connection on Aug 17, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

i read this as "Tiamat to Donny's Marmaduke"

and i was like what?

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, Tiamutt and Marmaduke.

the opposing Deities of the Caanineites

Little Bighorn. Classic small sample size. -Skancho Danza

by keystone connection on Aug 17, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe Santos is now regularly referred to as Mr. Wizard.

again, from his Wikipedia page:

Santos was part of a dance crew in middle and high school. His specialty was the windmill.

He went by the handle “Mr. Wizard”.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even really find those funny.

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to say

It’s like somebody found an mad-libs template for making fun of hipsters.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

those are kinda bad

the peavy ones are much better

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a reason we haven't called them out for stealing our bit?

“Our” used loosely.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 17, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do we know it started with "us."

And besides, “us” is really Keith Law’s tumblr.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Aug 17, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hated hipsters before hating hipsters was cool.

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

real hipsters ironically like the opposite of what fake hipsters like

I drink my martinis out of Dixie Cups, then die laughing at the jokes on the side. Then I litter.

Retro.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hipsters are people exactly like me and my friends that we don't know

so we call them hipsters and hate them.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

its a very interesting dichotomy

the one true way to know a hipster is if you call them a hipster and they deny it. but if you call someone a hipster and they say “sure, fine, guess i’m a hipster then,” where does that put them? I have always found that the defining characteristic of the hipster is insecurity. so that would throw a wrench in my logical gears.

but the absolute worst kind of person is someone who would LIKE to be called a hipster. just loathesome.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If only.

"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."

by RWShow on Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats where the queen lives

the colonies have branched out

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not a hipster just because my shoes are ballin'

"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza

by homesickalien on Aug 17, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live in milwaukee. MILWAUKEE

and there are 3 large neighborhoods populated with hipsters. that all say “I don’t want to go to the other two neighborhoods, too many hipsters.” YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A CO-OP BAR AND AN ART STUDIO. EMBRACE IT.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Milwaukee has art studios?

Are they all beer-can scupltures of heavyset women and farm machinery? I’m going if they are.

by justjc on Aug 17, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

MIAD is a pretty cool place to hang.

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Aug 17, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Milwaukee County War Memorial Art Museum

is also one of the best pop art collections in the midwest, if I remember correctly. I always loved that place.

Not a studio, I know, but I had to pipe up.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes it does

basquiat, warhol, haring, we got em all in milwaukee!

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brooklyn NY has been practically overrun

Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza

by e-gus on Aug 17, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williamsburg, not Seattle, was the birthplace of hipsterdom.

"If you are looking for a good and quick treat, mosey on over to Hardees or KFC." -Jessy S

by Uribe Down on Aug 17, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Willaimsburg, VA?

I hope not. I’m taking the wife to Busch Gardens in Williamsburg tomorrow for her 30th.

by justjc on Aug 18, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

We bought kobe steaks to grill

and mistakenly left them on the side table of the Traeger Pellet Grill, so that our Tibetan Mastiff can grab and eat them. Of course, already drunk on Sam Adams Utopias at $100 a bottle, I could only throw the Cutco BBQ tongs at her. The wife gets angry, and as our EST therapist advises, we scream it out. I’m her abusive older brother, and she’s my selfish mother.

Well, by the time we make up, our guests have already left, so we retired to our home theater and watched Blu-Ray discs.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 17, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

koyaanisqatsi, i assume.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, the studio really butchered the theatrical release

Why does the Institute for Regional Education always think it can tell the film makers how to construct their visual tones poems better?

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Aug 17, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

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