Sox Need Wins Out West
by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 22, 2011 9:45 AM CDT
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PrintAfter taking 2/3 from the Rangers here at home, the Sox are going where they have been at their best... the road. First up is a trip to Disneyland to face the Angels for a quick two game set beginning tomorrow. Then, they go to the Pacific Northwest to visit the Mariners for a weekend series.
Tomorrow night, Mark Buehrle will square off with Ervin Santana. The Sox handled Santana well this year in their only matchup on May 9, with an 8-0 victory. Unfortunately, the guy that had 5 RBI's that night isn't expected to play. Santana is 4-4 in 12 career games vs. the Sox (11 starts). Buehrle needs to pitch better than he normally does against the Angels, as he is 2-7 with a 4.43 ERA over 19 games (18 starts). He did pitch a pretty good one here though.
On Wednesday night, we send Zach Stewart against Jered Weaver. Stewart has looked good in his 2 starts with the Sox, and he will need to be great to lock horns with Weaver. Weaver is having a Cy-Young type season with a 14-6 record and a 2.10 ERA. He beat the Sox 4-3 in their lone matchup this season, but has dominated us in his career. In 8 starts against us, he is 5-2 with a 1.81.
After another off day on Thursday the Sox head to Seattle to face the Mariners. The Sox are 4-2 vs. Seattle this year and have handled them pretty well in recent times. Jake Peavy, John Danks and Gavin Floyd will be who we send out against the Mariners. Seattle's rotation has yet to be decided, but Felix Hernandez pitches on Wednesday vs. the Indians, so we will miss the King.
I am looking for big things on this road trip. I don't think a 4-1 mark is out of the question. A good trip would go a long way in drawing near to Detroit, as they are going to be playing their toughest series remaining on the schedule. They open up a 4 game set against the Rays tonight in Tampa. The probables for that series are Justin Verlander vs. Jeff Niemann, Brad Penny vs. David Price, Max Scherzer vs. Wade Davis and Doug Fister vs. Jeremy Hellickson.
* Paul Konerko will reach 2,000 hits with his next one. It would be fitting if it ended up being a homer into the left field bleachers in Anaheim, as he hit a couple of big home runs there back in October of 2005.
* With the rosters able to expand to 40 men on September 1st, Ozzie said the team will at least add another catcher, infielder and pitcher from the minors along with the much awaited arrival of Dayan Viciedo.
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and there aren't any bleacher (bench) seats at the big a. mercy.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 22, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
As I said in the previous thread unless Tampa sweeps Detroit
The White Sox will likely need to win 5 of the 6 head to head matches anyway. A 3-2 road trip would be fine here.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
3 is fine... i'm hoping for 4 though.
3 will probably just keep us where we are now though. i want to move closer dammit.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
5 is very likely
With us missing King, the only really tough pitcher we face is going to be JWeav and we’re throwing out what looks to be cannonfodder (Stewart will shut them out for 7 now that I say this.)
I like this road trip even though we’re down AJ and Q! (who was earning his ! last series)
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
you have some crazy lofty expectations
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Well now that I re-look at it.
I didn’t notice it was a 5 game trip. 4 is very likely. 3 would be fine, but disheartening.
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
4 out of 5 for a .500 team on a West Coast trip is very likely?
by Grinder in Training on Aug 22, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
For a team that plays .560 ball on the road
And is going up against one of the worst teams in baseball. A sweep in Seattle wouldn’t be considered to shocking.
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
There's a pretty big difference between not too shocking and "very likely"
by Grinder in Training on Aug 22, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I feel it's likely I won't be too shocked at the end of this road trip
/high expectations
//wake and bake!
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
i would take 3 and cash that ceck
before it bounces
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
Just can't wait to get...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TD_pSeNelU
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
oh no you didn't!
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
take 3 but would love 4
assuming the bats show up. no way i expect stewart to out-pitch weaver and even though buehrle is the white sox “ace”, ervin definitely would be the white sox #1 if he were on this roster
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 22, 2011 10:18 AM CDT reply actions
I wouldn't say that (ervin) but whatever
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
based on this season he has been. though just barely.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes Buerhle has been better
And once you get past less than a year Danks is better.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Buerhle's
bWar is a tad higher and that’s with 20 less innings because of the 6 man rotation.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
fuck
“fewer”
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
by Tdogg on Aug 22, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i don't look at that bwar fwar stuff because I don't understand it.
looking at ERA, FIP, and XFIP, IP/GS, tERA, SIERA, K/BB… it’s all in Santana’s favor.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
and whip, too.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
But what about on the Corned Beef Sandwiches?
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
hell Jake Peavy has better
ratios in almost all those categories than both. Whipee.
bWar does a better job for actual production value. Not just because you have a bunch of strikeouts which always punishes Buerhle.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I don't look at ERA because I don't understand it.
I just look at wins. And this Danks kid sucks BHBs.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 22, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I let that comment go
actually expected a little better than that from shoeless
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Yeah srsly.
That’s some weak shit.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 23, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
isn't WAR weaker for pitching though?
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by blackoutsox on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
thus my pointing to bWar
which is not.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
relax. hope doesn't equal expect.
i think they could possibly go 4-1. does that mean i expect it? heavens no.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
this.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
this.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
oh, really?
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 22, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Really!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 22, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If we get any takers on 0, 1, or 2 wins on the upcoming road trip and we'll have a winner!
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.
2 wouldn't be horrendous
If we didn’t play ourselves into this hole. Those two games in Anaheim are going to be very tough especially without Q. The Stewart-Weaver game is nearly a lost cause.
by Gentleman Jim on Aug 22, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
are you sure you are correct on that? i'm no genius
but if the tigers play .500 then we have to play .639.
if the tigers play .400 then we have to play .528. if the tigers play .600 then we have to play .750.
at least thats what i am getting from this.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I believe the chart says if the Tigers go .500 they will get 86 wins
In order for us to get 87 wins, we would have to go .667…We would have to .639 to force a game 163.
well then we'd need to win 2/3 of the games and not 3/4.
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Lillibridge! A Lack of Precedent
The only player somewhat similar to Lillibridge that made my list was Jeff Liefer (remember him? Me neither) in 2001. He was a left-handed hitting first baseman/outfielder, but he did sort of come out of nowhere serious power (.264 ISO) in part-time play for the… wait for it… White Sox. He then proceeded to bomb in 224 plate appearance for Chicago the following season and last saw the majors in 2005. That’s the closest thing to a comparison to Lillibridge. It doesn’t bode well, but it is far from the greatest comparison for Lillibridge. If anything, it just backs up the "sample size" issue.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/lillibridge-a-lack-of-precedent/
I remember one particular thing about Liefer
I think it was a July 23rd game in 2001 at Cleveland. Jerry Manual was arguing with the ump from the dugout at the end of the game.
With Konerko on 1st, and the White Sox trailing in a 2-0 ballgame, Jose Valentin was called out on strikes, and then tossed for arguing then call. Manual was yelling at Ted Barret (the home plate umpire), who had enough. Jeff Liefer stepped in, and had 3 straight pitches up around the eyebrows called strikes. Manual must have been going nuts, and Barret was yelling back at him between pitches. Liefer just had this “why me?” look on his face as he just stood there and took 3 balls, and ended the game.
Hawk Harrelson was practically screaming in the booth, and had to walk away from the mike.
Liefer eventually got traded to Montreal for Bartolo Colon.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 22, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i just remember liefer took at bats from jose canseco and that angered me.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
And Liefer also locked himself in a bathroom.
His B-R.com sponsorship is awesome.
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by Jim Margalus on Aug 22, 2011 11:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's never going away
as long as the government keeps the unemployment checks coming.
by Gentleman Jim on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
$310 is a lot of hate.
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fuck nick swisher.
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by BuehrleMan on Aug 23, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
he did? seems like an alright guy, then.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 23, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
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