Like A Friend
by U-God on Aug 25, 2011 2:07 PM CDT
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PrintThe season is quickly coming to an end. Barring a miracle run that has to include sweeping the Tigers out, the undertaker is currently sizing up the 2011 season. And I can't help but feel a little cheated.
Come on in now, wipe your feet on my dreams again.
It all feels like a bad relationship. I'm not pigeonholing it into a romantic one, but a bad relationship in general. This version of the team is that guy who grew up down the street from you or a "work buddy". You became friends out of geographic convenience or because there was no one else to talk to at your job. They give you something slightly better than boredom, but nothing incredibly rewarding.
You take up my time like some cheap magazine.
When I could have been learning something, oh well you know what I mean.
It's not quite toxic and it probably never will be, but you realize it's also never going to improve. You sit there, not really working at it because you don't see the point, but at one time this made you happy. And that's probably why you stick around. Loyalty or some shit like that. You've done it before and you'll do it again.
And next spring you'll come running back, just to do it again.
You are the last drink I never should have drunk.
You are the habit I can't seem to kick.
You are my secrets on the front page every week.
You are the car I never should have bought. You are the dream I never should have caught.
You are the cut that makes me hide my face. You are the party that makes me feel my age.
Like a car crash I see but I just can't avoid. Like a plane I've been told I never should board.
Like a film that's so bad but I've got to stay til the end
Let me tell you now: it's lucky for you that we're friends.
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2011 WSB: The Next Final Destination Movie.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 25, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
you gotta be bleepin me
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 25, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
SSS is a lot like Hawk.
If he could count and had DID you probably couldn’t tell the two apart.
by mechanical turk on Aug 25, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither can we call this a begging of misery, or a borrowing of misery, as though we were not miserable enough of ourselves, but must fetch in more from the next house, in taking upon us the misery of our neighbours.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
No man is an island, entire of itself;
except for me, because I am a sucky fatsack.
—Adam Donne
by dr. lingerie on Aug 25, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 11 recs
I read the second half to the tune of Perfect Drug by NIN
rec’d.
Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg
I see why you gravitate toward drunkenness and animals.
Your idea of friendship is twisted and sad.
by winningugly on Aug 25, 2011 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
'i cant believe i have adult friends.'
U-God, most recent sss meet-up
Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza
196-what was it?
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
As in 1960 can't remember the last number.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
He needs a dog.
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
See!? I have a glass half full outlook.
It looks as if the guy on the ground is cowering away in fear with his raised leg when I guess in reality he is just the throes of death.
Erin Gray was so hot.
The fact that she looks positively orgasmic is quite stimulating.
by winningugly on Aug 26, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes...he's a goner.
In the video clip, blood actually squirts out of the side of his head.
I’m surprised larry didn’t show it…he’s really slipping.
"How the hell did Pete Rose get 4,000 hits?" - Paul Konerko's comment after achieving his 2,000 hit (8/23/11)
oh how I missed these
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 25, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You're Goddamn right I'll run back next Spring, just to do it again.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 25, 2011 3:05 PM CDT reply actions
I was f'ing psyched from December through the end of April.
The no hitter ended whatever enthusiasm I had for this year’s team. I imagine there’s a parallel universe in which Dunn hit a walkoff homer in that game that spoiled the no-no. But, here we are.
Thankfully, I got a new job at the end of June that allowed me to forget about the White Sox for the last two months.
Hopefully, the Sox hang on to Burls, find a way to ditch Rios, play Viciedo full time, and convince Dunn to pick up a bat in the off season.
And if Kenny gets promoted to “President of Baseball Operations,” that wouldn’t be so bad either.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
hmm magic 8 ball
Hopefully, the Sox hang on to Burls(1), find a way to ditch Rios(2), play Viciedo full time(3), and convince Dunn to pick up a bat in the off season(4).
1. Maybe
2. No way!
3. Outlook not so good
4. They fucking better.
Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza
For number four, I don't think it's going to be that hard to do.
At Soxfest, when Dunn was talking about his lack of offseason training, it truly wasn’t boastful. It was a “well, this is how I’ve always done things.”
I’m willing to bet that he will be the first one to try and change that this year.
You know, after he takes a few weeks off to go kill some shit.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing takes your mind off of failure like vaporizing a deer with a submachine gun
Just ask Luke Scott.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Aug 26, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Luke Scott pickets the deer's children
when they get bused to his children’s school.
One-r, Two-r, and-a threer
We don’t wanna learn with deer
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't know if i da man, but i'm digging what skancho's doing on the RR twitter thingamajig.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
Yeah, I had a good laugh over this one
RT @CarlSkanberg For supporting the Adam Dunn Foundation for Firework Prevention #HatsOffCWS
by Grinder in Training on Aug 25, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
hoh yeah. Killin' me!
"Don Cooper, to the O.R! We have a bleeder!" - SkanchoDanza
by homesickalien on Aug 25, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheat suggested we screw with that thing weeks ago.
I guess I wasn’t in a sabotagey mood, until recently.
Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?
by SkanchoDanza on Aug 25, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
what the what?
http://chicago.blogger.cbslocal.com/most-valuable-blogger/vote/sports/
heh: “it has people who actually know what they’re talking about”
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 25, 2011 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
heh #2: BCB isn't on the list.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 25, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
~
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Aug 25, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
4 weeks if too many.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
And Boardwalk Empire starting around the same time,
may as well rewatch The Wire simultaneously and really confuse myself about Michael Kenneth Williams.
by mechanical turk on Aug 25, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No Fifth Feather?
Guess I’ll have to abstain.
by mechanical turk on Aug 25, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This should be a fanshot.
Both here, and on BCB.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 25, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
done and done.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 25, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Over/Under on how long it stays up?
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure. i only left the joke in the tags, but we'll see.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 25, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That last tag is priceless.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
we know what we are talking about.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 25, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
it's the same as the one here. just, uh, there.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Aug 26, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
The White Sox are like the that hot girl in high school.
The one that always gave you hope that something would happen. She wouldn’t talk to you for a couple of days but she would give you a smile or a wink every now and then to keep that hope brewing until that one fateful day when boom(steak dinner) she walked in class holding hands with the QB. Tuesday was that day. Yesterday was her with her tongue down his throat. But hey, she will be single again next spring.
This space is available.
by MrBungle on Aug 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
single again next spring
*Knocked up next spring.
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
by usualsuspect on Aug 26, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup
Couldn’t agree more. One of the most frustrating seasons I’ve had as a White Sox fan.
September, please go quickly.
Ranting about all sorts of things that are on my mind in 140 characters or less
by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 25, 2011 7:16 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Were you alive in 06' or 07' ?
especially 07’
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
by usualsuspect on Aug 26, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
This season is fuck tons worse than '06 and '07
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 26, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
because we are supposed to be good this year
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
We were supposed to be GREAT this year.
Okay, take away all the preseason rankings from those experts who still rightfully predicted a toss up between the Twinks, Detroit, and Us. In my heart, and from the moment they signed Dunn, This was the year to reclaim the glory. All the pieces were in place. I thought KW a ballsy God.
If you didn’t think the same, especially after April 1st and 2nd, you are either a lying whore or not a Sox Fan.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 26, 2011 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone expected us to be GREAT this year.
88 wins or so was realistic. Not much more than 90. In 2006 we had arguably an improved team from the year before and were favorites to at least win the AL pennant, iirc.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 26, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions
This.
Dear God, this!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 26, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions
of course we're toast
we’d be hard pressed to win if this team was playing well.
tigers- 130 games, 32 left. suppose they win half, they finish 87 wins
sox- 128 games, 34 left. suppose we win 2/3 of ’em (22), we finish 85 wins.
indians 127 games, 35 left. suppose they win half, they finish 80 wins.
we’re done. we’ll be lucky to win 81.
I've been wanting to use this song pretty much all summer.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
im all for firing everyone except cooper and hermie
the ws grace period is dead and mutilated in a ditch
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
Easily the most disappointing season out of any team I have cheered for
I know the Bears are going to be bad, and when the Hawks sucked they did it for a long time. It still feels like the potential is there, they just never played with any consistency. We have seen many glimpses of what they look like when really playing.
The 7-4 start was so damn promising.
I am not blaming KW for this, it all rests on the players. I would like to see Hahn promoted to GM and Kenny sent up in the organization. I don’t want to get rid of Ozzie or any of the staff. I think they did pretty good and their are no good replacements. Letting go of Ozzie won’t make a difference IMO and the players like playing for him.
i am so sick of his horseshit lineups and inane bunting
he can go too
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Aug 26, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
meh
The bunting is what it is. When it comes to the lineups, the only way this team would win is if we got Beckham, Dunn, Carlos (when he was in one of his many funks) and others going. They are not going to start hitting if sitting on the bench. Lillibridge and Vizquel were not going to carry this team to the playoffs. Hell, Lillibridge was exposed like always anytime he played for several games.
Ozzie is excellent at managing a staff (especially this year), great at protecting players, keeps the Sox on the map and is a World Series winning above average manager. I doubt he goes anywhere. Also, noway I would want LaRussa here. The smallball would get worse.
Look at what Ozzie did with this team this year. Half of the team wasn’t doing shit and he still kept them in contention until the end.
thanks, JC!
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 26, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
5 starters had an OPS under 600, right?
There’s no getting around that. 4/9 of the lineup had to provide the offense.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure someone else can manage the pitching staff just fine, MAYBE NOT AS GREAT AS OZZIE SINCE HE IS THE BEST AT IT
but someone else could probably do just fine
managing the pitching staff is more important than managing the lineup
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
What does “it is what is is” even mean?
Ozzie is a huge part of the reason why this team has been terrible. They need to understand what a sunk cost is. And yeah, the bunting is a complete disaster.
He also used to be much better at using a pitching staff. He let Jake Peavy completely push him around, and he keeps doing this thing where in tie games or down only one run late he keeps bringing in the back of the bullpen. Frasor being left in to pitch in a must-win game like that when Santos and Sale were sitting fresh in the bullpen doing nothing is sort of the apex of a trend that has grown over the course of the year.
He kept benching Lillibridge in favor of Rios and Pierre for reasons that elude me, obviously placed no importance on bringing up de Aza or Viciedo or ANYBODY when the team was in shambles, and jesus the bunting.
by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 26, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
its just what he does
Certain managers play small ball, LaRussa being the most famous.
Coop and the other staff have just as much influence when it comes who to pitch and how long as Ozzie does. Lillibridge is not an everyday player. You saw that again this year. The whole minor league fiasco has just as much to do with KW not pulling the trigger as it does Ozzie. Ozzie doesn’t manage in a vacuum and its important to remember that.
I don’t agree with it, but Joe Sheehan wrote a great article suggesting Ozzie get manager of the year.
Small ball is terrible
And Lillibridge may not be an every day player, but the fact is, the standard he had to beat to be playing every day was, “Not the worst player in baseball.” Because we had/have a few guys vying for that.
by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 26, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
again... how do you know there aren't any good replacements?
was ozzie a good replacement? people gotta start somewhere. its time to pull the plug on the whole regime.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I have asked you this before
Who? Name some names of managers who would leave their teams to come here? What managers are going to be available? Most good managers are already managing a team.
Also, only Tom Ricketts believes that you have to fire a manager to start talking about replacements. The Sox supposedly already talked to LaRussa (it is Cowley saying that though) and I am sure they have talked to others. Its not something they are going to report.
Firing Ozzie to try to teach a lesson would be a big mistake. If they get a good offer than sure. I don’t think that is going to happen. You do not fire a manager without a plan (except if you are Ricketts).
I am not trying to offend you in anyway, but I think it would be a “don’t know what you are missing till its gone”. Do you want to go through Bevington again? Because that is most likely the caliber of what we could bring in.
The complaints that people have about Ozzie are often either minor issues or armchair managing related. Its easy to criticize after something doesn’t work. Not saying Ozzie hasn’t made mistakes because he has. But having a team that is playing like horseshit half of the time is more likely to make you look worse. Just like having undertrained employees makes a supervisor look worse.
Just my opinion. I don’t want to get in an argument about Ozzie again, we have talked and heard about it all year. I am just ready for hockey to start and am excited about the Bulls.
Anything that begins it premise with "Only Tom Ricketts..."
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 26, 2011 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam Dunn, perhaps?
Seems like his playing days are over. Maybe he’s ready to teach.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
GRIDS.
Get it right, ffs.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 26, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
The other managers would molest him.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Why does it have to be someone with managing experience?
When Ozzie was hired wasn’t his whole resume “3rd base coach”?
by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 26, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
You sir are preaching to the fucking choir
I don’t give a shit who manages the White Sox next season. I just hope to god it isn’t Ozzie. I’ve tried not to be too vocal about this subject on here but considering where we find ourselves I think it is an apt time to bring the conversation to the table. We need to open the windows this winter has lasted 6 years.
i thought fregosi was ok.
he had no pitching staff and was clearly on the wrong end of a transition.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
He also got shitty situations in Toronto and Philadelphia
iIIRC, and took a patchy PHils team to the WS in 93.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
the ultimate white boy team.
dutch daulton, john kruk, mickey morandini, dave hollins, lenny dykstra, pete incaviglia, jim eisenreich, mitch williams, curt shilling.
god did i hate them.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Speaking of Lenny
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2011/8/26/2386184/lenny-dykstra-indecent-exposure-charges-craigslist
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
its not my job to figure out who...
all i know is ozzie’s time has come. its time to clear the whole 2005 regime. If we are going to go with older guys, then LaRussa or Bobby Valentine.
Kirk Gibson is probably going to be manager of the year in the NL this year. He wasn’t on anyones radar before last year and he’s done a fine job. Maybe Bobby Thigpen is ready to take over the big club. Maybe Richard Dotson. Maybe Ryne Sandberg.
Its just time to shake things up. Ozzie will always have a place in chicago but its time for him to go to the Marlins.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Do me a favor and never mention Bobby Valentine's name ever again
If he was a viable option he would have managed in the majors at some point in the last 9 years. If they hire Bobby Valentine, I’m fucking out on this franchise (that is hyperbole but you catch my drift)….we’ve had this argument before. FBV
And you can keep Sanberg, too.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 26, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Not feelin' Shawon Dunston either?
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
No thank you.
If he goes somewhere else and excels as a manger, then God bless him.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 26, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
heh. i knew i got into it with someone over valentine before.
ever since the fake mustache thing… i’ve been in love. lol
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
It tickled when he did a double-switch
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
There needs to be some fucking accountability in this organization
right now, the way things are, it doesn’t seem that there is any at all. Kenny and Ozzie keep making poor choices and the veteran players we have will play no matter how shitty they are. It makes sense really, just like Hawk this shit permeates the org. Give Guillen a fucking statue and let him take his talents to South Beach.
If you want a change in managing style I’m not sure Tony La Russa is a good option at all. I’d be miserable if they brought him in.
by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 26, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
If you are specifically talking to me, you are once again preaching to the choir
Fuck Tony Larussa hard and fast.
Was talking to 815
But glad to hear I’m not crazy
by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 26, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever... but his premise of there is not anyone out there is goofy.
of course there is someone out there who will be a successful manager. ozzie guillen isn’t the end all be all.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
i thought it was rather obvious that the someone is probably joey cora.
this is the white sox after all.
if it comes down to cora or guillen... id take greg walker.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
this
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
I nominate Jeff Cox if we are talking 3B coaches.
What a fantastic ride that would be.
by winningugly on Aug 26, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
See that is what I am saying
We are not getting LaRussa. Kirk Gibson is probably going to stay with the d-backs. They are the only too that could possibly do better than Ozzie. LaRussa would drive sox fans nuts as well.
There just really isn’t anyone very good out there. I think that promoting Hahn to GM will cause enough of a shakeup and a chance for Ozzie and the GM to actually have a decent relationship. I mean, we don’t want to see another pissing match like we did this year do we? That was as much Kenny’s fault as it was Oz’s
well ozzie wasn't better than jerry manuel until they gave him a chance.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Exactly
I don’t see the fixation on “veteran managers” or whatever. Also, acting like being a manager is this objective quality of just “Good” or “Bad”. Francona was really unremarkable and unsuccessful record-wise before he went to the Red Sox. Context is really important.
by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 26, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
i am 100% positive that there are better managers out there than ozzie.
don’t ask me who, but you are making it seem as though there is only a handful of guys that could possible manage the team when there are hundreds.
It's gonna be a while before you see the Bulls play again though...
I waffle on Ozzie. I want Kenny gone, but Ozzie….depends on the day. Right now, I say it’s a mistake to let him go.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 26, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Ozzie has got to go
I’ve been on this bandwagon for two seasons. I could really give a fuck about his pitching staff management. He is the teams identity.
that is very true
Hawks should be pretty good this year though and I usually make some money off of my meatball Bears friend fans.
To be fair: I do understand the good ol Chicago "Fire Everybody!"
I often want to do it with the Bears. But the Bears have not had the success the Sox have had. The Bears are not in contention almost every year.
i think 99 percent of the people have been very very fair to guillen.
i was calling for his head in 2006. he’s had a nice run. 7 years is a long time for any manager in any city.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
yeah i said in 05 they won a lot of games despite him
I knew the WS bought him a good 5 years no matter what.
Its been 6 years.
He does somethings well, but he just seems too comfortable to me.
I dont know. I’d be ok with some turnover.
Flowers always get me in scoring position. -SkanchoDanza
if the sox made it to the alcs last year nobody would be calling for heads.
2005 was a long time ago, 2008 was dropped in their lap.
by Trooper on Aug 26, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This got 6 rec's?
How?
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Aug 26, 2011 12:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Turns out if you left-click inside the grey star on the bottom of the article, it turns yellow.
That signifies that the mouse operator recommends or “rec’s” the article. The computer network saves this information. Through science, we can deduce that six people clicked the grey star.
boom. pot roast. leftovers? -keystone connection
by Uribe Down on Aug 26, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
all i wanna do is pay for a white sox game ticket and go to a game and eat my chicken and eat my churro and see them win and it's been three years and like 20 straight games they've lost
PROMOTE GREG WALKER!
by billyok on Aug 26, 2011 2:41 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
why are you up this late, you have work in the morning
PROMOTE GREG WALKER!
by billyok on Aug 26, 2011 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i went to a party
PROMOTE GREG WALKER!
by billyok on Aug 26, 2011 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
oh i see, well that's irresponsible
PROMOTE GREG WALKER!
by billyok on Aug 26, 2011 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
everything i do disappoints you
PROMOTE GREG WALKER!
by billyok on Aug 26, 2011 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
x
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 26, 2011 4:15 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Watching the cubs yesterday (god im sick)
brandon beachy for carlos quentin, look pretty good right now
if only we had had that one additional starter we needed to make the postseason
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
not this year
but next year that would be big, you can never have too many young talented starters, and look at quentins august coupled with again another injury…. beachy has 4-5 more years service time, quentin has 1… this isnt hindsight on my part this deal should have been made when we had the chance, maybe that chance will be there again in the offseason but who knows now
they were too close at the trade deadline to build for next year
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Right, I don't understand how people cannot understand it
The only argument they have is “See, I told ya so”. That is not how baseball works.
scouting a pitcher against the cubs.
like scouting kenwo against the rest of the little leaguers.
by larry on Aug 26, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
next year
who do you feel better about beachy or stewart?
on top of that a popular trade option on this board and in the sox relm seems to be floyd, floyd becomes a hell of a lot more tradable with a beachy acquisation,
the trading of cq and floyd with bringing on beachy also frees up a lot of payroll for a team that by all accounts will be very cash strapped in the 2012 offseason
braves
they have a lot of young pitching and cq is a bat they desperately needed in a pennant race
the rumors were pretty heavy, i suspect their had to be some truth to them
yeah. and, when they didn't trade for quentin, they just collapsed.
the horseshit people want to believe. (312) 644-6767.
larry
post trade deadline their record doesnt effect whether or not I think the sox would have been better served moving cq for beachy
not sure why your so bitter all the time, try getting laid once in a while
i think the sox would have been better served moving cq for evan longoria.
obviously i’m not questioning why the white sox didn’t do it. why the fuck would the braves have.
lack of power
braves had none, then uggla started to hit
you can never have too many young talented starters, and look at quentins august coupled with again another injury…. beachy has 4-5 more years service time, quentin has 1
I think they are a bat short
At this point I project the Redsox, Yanks, Tigers, Rangers, Dbacks, Brewers, Phillies, Braves to make the playoffs, of those 8 teams, the Braves would rank 8th in runs scored….
There were approximately a million outfield bats available this year. The Braves would not have had to send Beachy for Q-level bat.
That’s like saying the Yankees need starters and have plenty of power hitters so let’s trade Humber for Cano.
eh longoria has been a disappointment for the Ken Sox fantasy team this year.
I’m leaving him unprotected next season I think. The Prince and McCutchen have been better.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
both of their teams were in the playoff hunt at the deadline.
try coming up with some realistic scenarios, teddy bear.
Perhaps larry and others aren't the nurturing posters you want them to be
but when people come here with “Let’s trade all our garbage to the Nationals for Stephen Strassberg and that Zimmerman guy! – what’s stopping them?” posts, you will be challenged. Bitterly so.
And who says that getting laid doesn’t make you more bitter?
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
i'd also note
personal attacks are a really great way to convince people of one’s position. so persuasive.
wow
so we went from all star outfielder for a young starter with good stuff
to our garbage for zimmerman and strasburgh…. nice leap
I dont need nurturing, but the beachy for cq rumors were HOT, there had to be something to them, I was all for it, lots of people were against it, it worked out in my favor this time
Not to mention it didnt HAVE to be just a one for one player deal, if other prospects had to be added then so be it.
Sure, there was probably something to them
something, like, Q + Addison Reed + somebody else of value for Beachy.
You know, Wren’s assistant may have taken a call from Hahn, or vice versa, exploring the possibility of something. Wren’s assistant’s assistant then let a list of names slip to Jayson Stark’s assistant, and now we have stories of a series of talks about a trade.
Let it go.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
It didn't work out in your favor...
The Sox were 3.5 games back at the Deadline, they played themselves into contention. It was not time for a white flag trade with the division the way it is. CQ wasn’t going anywhere as long as the team stated in contention.
You didn’t have a better understanding of the team than anyone else. The team is obviously able to play at a division winning level. They just haven’t been consistent.
Did the rumor come from MLB?!?
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Aug 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
he isn't bitter, its just the way SSS is
If you post something that people don’t agree with that people will let you know around here. larry never personally attacks anyone. You should have seen how they treated newbies a few years back. It took me awhile to get how this place works. Try not to take it personally.
Fuck off you piece of Rockford trailer trash.
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
by Chiburb on Aug 26, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think everyone here takes a reaming from time to time
it’s life. Get over it. larry’s mean. I’m an unfunny a-hole, apparently.
If I’m going to champion Buehrle to the Cards for (pick someone), I better be ready to defend it, from any stand point – Buehrle’s worth way more than player X, player Y’s worth way more than Buehrle, you’re trading a fan favorite for a similar stat/wife abuser, whatever.
U-God told me my jokes suck. I cried a little, called my therapist and made an appointment, and kept posting. Life is real.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if it means using - gasp - sabermetrics?
If I’m going to champion Buehrle to the Cards for (pick someone), I better be ready to defend it
If you're weak, yes.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that your private WSox-snopes line?
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I would think Q gets seriously shopped this off-season
Next year’s OF is Dayan (7), Rios (8), DeAza (9), with Lillibridge and some other remarkable IF/OF to back them up.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
JP could be the other remarkable OF
if he takes 1.5 or something like that.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Sigh...all they had to do was be average this year.
Seeing that he’s a huge contributor to their suckitude, how long do you suppose they give Dunn next year to get his crap together?
Or because of his contract, will we be forced to watch him flame out once again and bring down the whole team with him?
"How the hell did Pete Rose get 4,000 hits?" - Paul Konerko's comment after achieving his 2,000 hit (8/23/11)
That would depend on what the manager decides to do with him.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 26, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I would imagine that if Dunn posts another 165/292/292 season...
they start talking to legal to find a way out of his contract.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 26, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably the entire year
I still think this is a big fluke, I think he goes back to normal next year. I also do see him putting a lot of work in the offseason. He said he would and their is no reason not to believe he will (yet). Dunn has always been described as a great guy and wants to help this team. Totally frustrating this year, I think never facing anything like this before and it happening in the high intensity market that is Chicago (especially among us Sox fans, who are proudly the most critical) did not help one bit
Is there any precedent for a player like Adam Dunn to play winter ball somewhere?
I know winter ball is usually reserved for prospects, but it seems like it could fulfill the two goals of getting him to pick up a bat in the offseason and regaining some confidence.
The level of competition is probably too low to be meaningful for a veteran like Dunn.
Especially since he wouldn’t be playing defense.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
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