White Sox 8, Twins 6: Survive for five
by Jim Margalus on Aug 30, 2011 10:40 PM CDT
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PrintIn previous years, tonight would have been a garden-variety loss to the Twins.
This year, the White Sox had an answer for everything, and the Twins didn't have an answer for the sheer talent void left by their body count.
The Sox overcame a pair of three-run deficits to extend their winning streak to five, with one of the KnightSox leading the charge, and some classic Minnesota kindness helping to seal the deal.
Alejandro De Aza continues to come up with big hits. When Jason Kubel hit a three-run homer off Zach Stewart to start the scoring in the top of the fourth, De Aza answered with one of his own off Anthony Swarzak, turning on 2-2 pitch and lining it into the Bullpen Sports Bar.
The Twins tried grabbing another three-run lead thanks to more poor pitching by Stewart, who threw a wild pitch to put two runners in scoring position, then bypassed the open base by challenging Joe Mauer with a 2-1 fastball. Mauer lined one to the right-center gap and scored two runs, and a Michael Cuddyer single drove him in.
Once again, the Sox responded immediately. Alexei Ramirez started the rally with a one-out single, and he scored on Paul Konerko's double to left. Alex Rios blooped a single to right to get Konerko to third, and then came a succession of presents.
Swarzak got ahead on Dayan Viciedo with a first-pitch strike, then hit him in the shoulder. That loaded the bases for De Aza, who hit a routine grounder to Cuddyer at first. Cuddyer went for the forceout at second, but his throw wasn't on target, and Tsuyoshi Nishioka didn't make much of an effort to catch it. The throw skipped into left field, which allowed two runs to score, tying the game at 6.
Ron Gardenhire called on Alex Burnett to relieve Swarzak, but he instead picked up where he left off. He walked Tyler Flowers, and after a three-pitch strikeout of Brent Morel, he hit Gordon Beckham on the hand after getting ahead 1-2. That gave the Sox the lead, and Juan Pierre made it a two-run game with a single to left.
Jeff Cox wanted a three-run lead, sending Flowers home, but he was cut down at the plate by Rene Tosoni.
Another nice effort by the bullpen made further insurance unnecessary. Jason Frasor walked the first guy he faced to start the sixth, but set down the next three in order. Chris Sale pitched around an Alexei Ramirez error and a Tyler Flowers passed ball for two scoreless innings, and Sergio Santos recorded his 28th save of the season with a generous third strike to end it.
Notes:
*This is kind of a weird-looking line score:
*The Sox had a second runner thrown out at home when Ramirez was caught running out a sky-high pop-up that landed for a single. He started at first, and by the time the ball hit the grass, he was rounding third. Jason Kubel threw to home in time to get Ramirez to cede the out.
*Tyler Flowers was called for batter's interference to nullify a De Aza stolen base. The Sox must lead the league in this.
*Gordon Beckham made a big play in the seventh by backhanding Joe Mauer's grounder up the middle and throwing him out at first, because Ben Revere was on second. If that one gets through, it's a one-run game.
*In his postgame interview with Sara Kustok, he described his homer as "The big thing happened." I like that.
Record: 68-65 | Box score | Play-by-play
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I come from Cuba, and Dayan Viciedo is the youngest player who have played at the age of 15 years , 4 month of age in the Cuba National League. Is a player who likes to have at bat in clutch situations. Is an irony, here in Miami only we have had one or two players originally from Cuba wearing the Marlins uniform and you guys have had a few of them.
Hey guys,do you know if there is a possibility, as a fanatics, of try to convince the Veterans Comite to put the name of Orestes “minnie” Miñoso at the hall of Fame? I believe is his last chance and i think he deserves the honor.
You could try to Convince Kenny Williams to go after the latest talent escaped from the Island and if you guys get him, the White Sox will have for sure one of the best lineups in the MLB. Yoanis Cespedez is the guy to follow, he broke the home run record last year in Cuba and now people comment the Yankees wants him at any cost.
With the help of Alexei and Viciedo i think the fans can count with him for the next season.
I hope the team reach the play off.
Go, WHITE SOX.
by Cuban White Sox on Aug 30, 2011 10:45 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
The more the merrier.
I say we sneak the entire Cuban national team into the country under Herm’s ample bosom.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Minoso was my dads favorite player.
id love to see him get in the hall.
and i’d love to get more cuban players on the sox. contreras, hernandez, ramirez and viciedo… i’ve really liked all of them.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
el duque one of my most favortie cuban players
i moved from new jersey just when he started to break out in the MLB. but his second stint with the white sox? the playoff clutchness. werent the feds trying to deport his family or something that season?
if we have omar around as a dugout coach i’d like him around for the pitching staff, especially if chris young can come back with him too
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 30, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
"second stint with the white sox?
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
" " "
Premature posting. Also, are you implying that Omar is Cuban?
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Nevermind, I see now.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
technically it was but he never played
kinda like the day rasheed wallace spent with the atlanta hawks. he was traded the offseason he could obatin free agency but immediately traded the same day to montreal and then re-signed with the yankees for a year and then “came back” to chicago
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 31, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
We are exacting pricks, aren't we?
personally I think it will be more than a little bit
but I’m a goof. by Tdogg on Aug 30, 2011 1:46 PM EDT
YES!!
more cubans, these guys can play
give me more! especially with awesome names like that
“adam dunn” what’s that — eight letters across, means “failure”
“alex rios” — eight letters down, means “asshat”
“MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER” WHAT! 100 letters, all high points, triple word that’s like 200 points in WWF
let’s go get him, i’ll get the keys but you should probably drive if you know what i am say
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by billyok on Aug 31, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have been laughing for half an hour over this one, william.
personally I think it will be more than a little bit
but I’m a goof. by Tdogg on Aug 30, 2011 1:46 PM EDT
3 games above. i'm starting to get spoiled.
and i also love when the knight sox come up to bat. i look forward to viciedo’s at bats and yell at my son to be quiet when he comes up because i want to hear the ball off the bat. i think my family now hates me.
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now?
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by blackoutsox on Aug 30, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
More than ever is what I think he meant to say.
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ballantini fires out a pretty good article on the whole ozzie/cowley nonsense:
i always enjoy a darwin quote.
by craigws on Aug 30, 2011 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
that smells too much like kenny/ballantini nonsense of its own.
I thought ballantini was real police.
you say you got my back officer ballantini?
I ain’t t to worry about nuthin’?
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Aug 30, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ballantini gets the benefit of the doubt.
Natural po-lice.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I do believe there aren't five swinging dicks in the entire city who can do what he does.
by mechanical turk on Aug 30, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
x
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by e-gus on Aug 30, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
this should replace the "smh" phrase in any and all possible contexts
ssshhhhhhheeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 31, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Sad
you got three kids tearing shit up and helping the sox get somewhere and we have to worry about more Ozzie/Kenny stuff. Just shut up and do your jobs. I love Ozzie nut this is getting old. You want to play hide the salami with your overpaid underachieving vets, find a closet to do it in and don’t subject us who like the magnificent seven do their jobs. (de aza, flowers, viciedo, wait that’s three shit
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Utter crap
"Dayan Viciedo is not a cleanup hitter right now," said Guillen, straightfaced. "Let the boys with more experience, more salary handle that."
I should know better but I just don’t get how the same guy how is so progressive with pitching staffs is such an utter failure with lineups and offensive philosophy.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
When Becks was moved up in the order in either 2008 or 2009 he wilted under the pressure, IIRC.
When Che came up and started doing well I recall the same effect. Why jam him into a tough role when he is producing where he is? Let him continue to succeed.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
Because you have a below avg offense and need to maximize runs
Beckham didn’t wilt under pressure. He has problems with his swing. Rios has no business batting 4th.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I totally agree Rios should not be 4th.
I’m just sayin’ Dayan might be better served to not be thrust into the 4th slot just yet.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Aug 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
And why the hell would you want a .572 OPS anywhere near the top of the lineup?
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I know right
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by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
i agree dayan is hot. leave him be for now. the other "big salary" guys need to step it up
until Q comes back i agree alexei should be cleanup. he has enough power and makes enough solid contact.
rios should be hitting 7th, 8th, or 9th with morel and beckham. but imagine how quick those innings would be? even mark would be asking for some rest after those innings
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R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that's my real issue
I got sidetracked by his words in general. I’m not really worried that Dayan bats 4th though it wouldn’t bother me at all.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I'm looking forward to Rios batting 12th a lot once Q comes back
Really hoping they follow through on De Aza starting in center more often, presumably against all righties.
by Yinka Double Dare on Aug 31, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
"Tossed salary."
That is not what I initially read. Somehow Tool’s “Prison Sex” song wafted through my memory banks. ;)
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Aug 31, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
You missed one, Ozzie
“Let the boys with more experience, more salary, more incompetence handle that”
by Yinka Double Dare on Aug 31, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Sale needs to go to the starting rotation now
there are two doubleheaders coming up and even if we can try to make do with a 5-man group doing some work on 4 days’ rest, Sale should probably be starting over Humber at this point anyways. The bullpen might get a bit stretched out but we’ve still got three excellent pieces in the pen without Sale and the rest of the guys just gonna have to do some work.
As colin said in the gamethread, this is the kind of move the Sox would take if they seriously thought they could win the division, but for whatever reason the front office has conceded.
Also, good to see Paulie back playing first just days after his entrenchment at DH was given as a reason not to claim Thome. I know they would never actually make the right decisions, but a middle of the lineup consisting of Konerko, Viciedo, Quentin, and Thome would look awfully nice and might make the lineup viable enough to upset an actual good team in the postseason.
And yeah, I know this contrasts my posts when I was lol-ing at the White Sox for supposedly claiming Thome. I had given up then, too. Doesn’t change the fact that the reason they gave (or that was published) was a steaming pile of crap.
better throwing humber out there again and hoping he'll become half-decent again
than to risk doing damage to sale.
not on monday he couldn't.
he hasn’t thrown more than probably 45 or 48 pitches. there isn’t enough time to make it work.
I think he threw 50 pitches exactly in his 3 inning outing last month
but iirc, he looked pretty gassed at the end of it.
I still really hope that they get him on a conditioning program over the winter and stretch him out in spring 2012 to join the rotation, but he’s been so great in the pen I’m starting to worry that’ll never happen. I bet Santos/Sale/Reed would be a badass closing crew for the next 5 years though
OK I concede, throwing Sale out there in despair is a bad move. Gonna be sick watching Stewart, though.
by Gentleman Jim on Aug 31, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Humber can be decent as a 5th.
better than Stewart at least. If the offense has improved there will be a bit more slack.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Baseball isn't my bag but do you people think next season...
You could have a lineup of… like
De Aza CF
Ramirez SS
Konerko 1B
Beckham 2B
Vicieddo RF
Quentin LF
Flowers C
Morell 3B
Dunn DH
What do you think?
beckham batting clean up is a fantastic idea
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by e-gus on Aug 31, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i dont know why, but I started giggling uncontrollably while reading this
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Aug 31, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
AJ will still get 100+ starts at C
and Rios probably isn’t going anywhere.
bench!
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Aug 31, 2011 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
drop Beckham two or three spots and this is the greatest possible scenario to hope for
probably won’t happen though
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
by blackoutsox on Aug 31, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not clear that Flowers should catch.
AJ, unlike Rios and Dunn, is still a legitimate player and all of the Knights are overachieving.
by Gentleman Jim on Aug 31, 2011 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions
And that's another KnightSox winner!
Let’s take ’em tomorrow, boys, to ensure we go into Detroit no worse than 4 back in the loss column. If we do, then 2-1 in Detroit puts us three back, which is progress…
Baseball is life.
I think Ozzie doesn’t needs to Change the lineup at this moment. Viciedo is trying to adjust to the pressure of these games. But if Ozzie want to take risks should place Konerko after Viciedo in the lineup. This way Konerko would protect Dayan Viciedo and will force the pitchers to face the Viciedo swing. It sound crazy, but is a way of take advantage of the Viciedo eager to produce big hits and the experience of Konerko.
by Cuban White Sox on Aug 31, 2011 12:57 AM CDT reply actions
that does sound a little crazy
Konerko protects no man… he’s become the Chuck Norris of the Sox if you ask me.
Fack Muck Brown!!
i feel i need to ease your mind
There is no hell.
Although otoh if there were, there would almost certainly be a bunch of bloggers FCNITB/E.
by spengler on Aug 31, 2011 12:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i also dont think this person is really cuban
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Aug 31, 2011 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions
which was the point
To find out
by spengler on Aug 31, 2011 11:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
not that bad of an idea.
id rather have
3. viciedo
4. konerko
5. ramirez
then what they currently have going. i mean- i like rios and all ::hangs head in shame:: but he shouldn’t be hitting behind konerko anyway. and if konerko is behind viciedo, they sure won’t want to walk/hit/bust dayan inside as much.
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in the last 30 days
rios’ fWAR = 0.1
de aza fWAR = 1.1
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