Twins 7, Sox 6; Peavy Bombarded in 1st, Dunn and Rios Fail in 9th
Before I could get cozy in my seat today, the Twins jumped all over Jake Peavy for 6 runs in the top of the 1st. The White Sox battled their way back late, but Ozzie Guillen's managerial decisions sabotaged their comeback efforts as the Sox couldn't complete the sweep against Minnesota. Unfortunately, the Tigers completed their comeback against the Royals, dropping the Sox back to 6 games back.
Things started out innocently enough as Peavy retired Jason Repko to begin the game. Then the extra base hit parade began. Trevor Plouffe doubled to left center and Joe Mauer brought him in with a ground rule double of his own. Michael Cuddyer continued the trend as he lined another ground rule double to make it 2-0. Jason Kubel followed with a wind blown homer to make it 4-0. After Danny Valencia struck out, Rene Tosoni smashed a single to right and Luke Hughes blasted a 2 run shot of his own to make it 6-0. Finally someone visited Peavy on the mound, and he got Drew Butera to pop out to mercifully end the inning.
The Sox started chipping away in the third, as Juan Pierre drew a 2 out walk and scored on Brent Lillibrdige's 13th homer of the season.
In the 6th, the Sox would get a couple more off of Scott Diamond. Lillibridge walked with one out and Paul Konerko ripped a double into the left field corner to score Lillibridge. Unfortunately, Alex Rios struck out looking and Alexei Ramirez grounded out to 2nd to end the inning. After Rios struck out, he took 3 amazing swings at the bat rack in the dugout. It was the best contact he'd make all day.
Jake Peavy settled down and put up goose eggs for the next four innings following his first inning debacle. Will Ohman got the Twins 3 up 3 down in the 6th, but Jason Frasor couldn't do the same in the 7th as Repko bombed a homer to left to make the game 7-3.
Matt Capps worked a scoreless 7th, but Glen Perkins got touched up a little bit in the 8th. Pierre started the inning with a single. After one out, Konerko drew a walk. Rios came through with a single to center to score Pierre. After Alexei struck out, Dayan Viciedo smoked a single to center, but Konerko was unable to score, leaving the bases loaded for Tyler Flowers. Flowers hit a liner down the third base line, but unfortunately that is where Valencia was playing to end the inning, with the Sox trailing 7-4.
After Matt Thornton and Josh Kinney worked a scoreless 8th and 9th, Joe Nathan came in for the save. Somebody must have elbowed Ozzie in the dugout, because he finally started managing. Alejandro De Aza pinch hit for Brent Morel and doubled into left center. Omar Vizquel then pinch hit for Gordon Beckham and drew a walk, which brought the tying run to the plate. Juan Pierre grounded to first base to put runners on 2nd and 3rd for Brent Lillibridge. Only Lillibridge grew a foot and gained 100 lbs since his last at bat. After I blinked a few more times I realized Ozzie put up Adam Dunn for a guy that has more home runs in way less at bats, homered earlier in the game and who owns a career dinger off of Nathan. Dunn worked the count to 3-1, before going down on strikes for the 2nd out of the inning. Konerko came up and dumped a single to right, which scored De Aza and Vizquel to make it 7-6. Zach Stewart pinch ran for Paulie and represented the tying run with our super dangerous cleanup hitter coming up to the plate. The only cleanup hitter in baseball with a terrifying .572 OPS, Rios. You would think after being so distraught over getting rung up earlier in the game he would swing, but instead he stood there with the bat on his shoulder as the ump called strike three again. This time he walked off, went into the dugout and down the runway without incident, but the game was over.
* Jake Peavy blamed a bunch of things for his poor outing. The wind, his health, his relief appearance 3 months ago, his momma and daddy issues. Seriously dude, just say "I didn't have it". That would suffice.
* Viciedo killed 2 balls. One, his hit to center and the other, a line out to the warning track. There was a bit more electricity in the stadium when he stepped up to the plate.
* The 300 level is very nice. I hadn't been up there in a few years and was very impressed.
* The Sox have Thursday off, and travel up to Detroit on Friday for a must win series against the Tigers. John Danks will face Justin Verlander at 6:05.
WP: Scott Diamond (1-2)
LP: Jake Peavy (6-7)
S: Joe Nathan (12)
HR: Kubel (12), Hughes (7), Repko (2), Lillibridge (13)
Record: 68-66 | G.B. 6 | Box
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must win series?
more like must sweep series.
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eh i think they could win 2/3 and still be in the race.
but if they lose the series… the year is dunn.
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Agree: the Sox need 2 of 3 in Detroit
The season is on the line this weekend – should be some good games to watch.
Baseball is life.
they need 5 of 6 from detroit, minimum.
last one out, turn off the lights.
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by e-gus on Aug 31, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even with needing to win
I’m willing to bet Ozzie finds a way to get Rios and/or Dunn 20 at-bats over the series.
Agreed.
2 of 3 gets one game. No good.
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by winningugly on Aug 31, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dunn a pinch hitter?
That is insane. There isn’t anyone in the American league that he should be pinch-hitting for. Hell, there are several pitchers in the National league that should be batting for him!
by whitesox59 on Aug 31, 2011 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
das one expensive pinch hitter!
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 31, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear Carlos Zambrano is in need of work and expensive....
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 1, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
if I played fantasy sports
id bat Z before D in that situation
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Sep 1, 2011 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Despite konerkos good day today
Im curious to see what his numbers are when dunn or rios are hitting behind him. If ozzie is obligated to play rios or dunn, why cleanup? i would rather have anyone but pierre hit 4th instead of rios or dunn. what goes through ozzies mind to get him to think its a good idea to have a top 3 worst hitter in baseball batting behind your best hitter? Rios isn’t a cleanup hitter even when he was good last year. Im sure that topic comes up a lot, but i was just absolutely shocked (though i shouldnt have been) when de aza wasnt starting after a 4RBI night. Must sweep in Detroit in my mind, if they win 2 of 3 we are right where we started the monday before the Angels series. It can be done, detroit played poorly against KC but still got 2 of 3.
300 level is indeed very nice
That’s where I take “I’m afraid to set foot on the south side – isn’t that where Bad Bad Leroy Brown lives?” out of town guests. They are always blown away, especially if they’ve already been to the primitive facilities at Wrigley.
Baseball is life.
And speaking of center fielders who can't hit for crap anymore
Our ol’ pal Aaron Rowand was DFA’d by the Giants today. Sucks to see him struggle as badly has he has this year, but at least he was in the positive WAR territory, unlike our expensive and bad cleanup “hitting” centerfielder.
by Yinka Double Dare on Aug 31, 2011 9:21 PM CDT reply actions
i don't even like rowand...
but maybe they should pick him up for clubhouse purposes. what will it cost? 20 grand at this point? anything is worth a shot.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 31, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Iseewhatyoudidthere
Getting the band back together?
LeBron James: Which of His Blessings would you deny?
by ProfessorEmmer on Aug 31, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
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"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 31, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent.
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by winningugly on Aug 31, 2011 11:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who is even left
from that team that liked the guy? Konerko, AJ, and Buehrle? Is that it?
What’s worth a shot is maximizing WAR. All his value is in fielding. What’s not worth a shot is picking up more worthless veterans so they can be respected. I’m sure our clubhouse has a great atmosphere after losses like this. Winning is fun and fun is winning. It doesn’t help to mope after a loss, but it also doesn’t help to have veterans feeling good about sucking.
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by ProfessorEmmer on Aug 31, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
eh i suppose.
just wondering if maybe the return of the ICON could spark a little something. i know i get fired up everytime hulk hogan waddles out to fight.
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That having been said
he would provide more WAR than Rios by virture of existing. But I think it’s time for some De Aza.
larry is gonna yell at me, but when you pick someone up off the DFA scrap heap, do you cover their pro-rated salary instead of the original club? Cause I’m sure Chairman Jer wouldn’t go for having two shitty overpaid CFs.
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by ProfessorEmmer on Aug 31, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't think they 'd have to pay him very much of anything...
prorated minimum salary i believe. giants are on the hook for everything they signed him for.
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Yes and no.
Yes, it’s time for De Aza, who seems to actually be providing both hitting and glove. I wasn’t suggesting picking up Rowand (who is terrible at this point), merely noting the possiible career end of a blast from the championship past.
No to the second IF you wait for him to clear waivers and he is outright released. If you claim him while he is on waivers, you are responsible for his salary (2 million for this year and 12 million for 2012) in the same way we’re stuck with Rios’s contract.
by Yinka Double Dare on Aug 31, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the laugh guys
really needed it after this loss. I have a better idea, they should really reach out to McKay Christianson instead.
Score callers bitching about the Rowand for Thome trade were always amusing
I think they bugged Bernstein with that for at least two years; at some point I’m quite certain people would bring it up just because they knew he’d get pissed off.
by Yinka Double Dare on Aug 31, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Ron LeFlore.
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by winningugly on Aug 31, 2011 11:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Give Rowand #51, and ask Rios what number between 422 and 474 he would like.
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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 31, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't able to watch the game, as I was working.
But I followed along on my phone. I couldn’t believe Ozzie had Rios hitting in the 4-spot. His OPS is lower than some cleanup hitter’s SLG. It’s so utterly ridiculous. And then his decision to pinch hit Adam Dunn over Lillibridge? I have been an Ozzie supporter for years, but I’m at the point where I can’t wait for him to just go away. I’m fed up with this nonsense. I feel like I’m cheering for the ’03 Mets.
by Bent Over Beckham on Aug 31, 2011 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
yah thats a good point.
now that you said that… this sox team reminds me a lot of some mets teams during the last 10 years.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
we already have more wins than that team but i see your point
they had: cone, vaughan, piazza, alomar, floyd, benitez, leiter, franco, burnitz, scutaro, wiggington, glavine and timo and they still sucked shit.
When I look back at it, 2002 might be more accurate.
Loudmouth manager at the end of his rope. “Slick” GM with a big payroll, big name/no result players, weak farm system, etc.
by Bent Over Beckham on Aug 31, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i feel like this is the inverse of the early 2000's rangers
they had enough hitting to win each game through the bats and overcome sub-par pitching. but the pitchers were quite garbage save for Kenny Rogers, based on who actually got to trot out there and get smacked around. a lot of quality pitchers they let go of too soon or did not give enough burn before they left, and they blew tons of money on bad pitchers
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Sep 1, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town" is genius.
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by winningugly on Sep 1, 2011 4:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lineup
It’s time to burn the ships.
1-Pierre,2-De Aza,3-Viciedo, 4-Konerko,5-Ramirez,6-Lillibrigde, 7-Flowers, 8- Beckham, 9- Morel. They need 4 out of 6 vs Detroit. Now or Never.
by Cuban White Sox on Aug 31, 2011 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
they are 6 back of detroit
go 4-2 heads up and you still have 4 games to make up the other 20 days you play.
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I'll take it
I think we have to face Verlander twice (?) so going 4-2 against Detroit is pretty good.
Obviously making up four games in twenty with no head-to-head matchups is not ideal, but it’s as good as can be expected and if given the option of taking 4-2 over Detroit without playing the games I’m taking it for sure. Detroit is pretty crummy and it’s not hard to see that team taking a steaming dump at the end of the season even against the Royals, Orioles, etc. Is it likely we do enough better than a steaming dump to make up four games? Probably not, but at this point four out with twenty left looks good.
by Gentleman Jim on Sep 1, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Four out with twenty left does not look good. This is the second part of the season where I like to point out that every game counts.
I hate being told by other Sox fans to “relax” or “take it easy” after a disappointing loss in April or May. How about not losing 19 of 24 between 4/11 and 5/6? In 18 of those games the Sox scored fewer than four runs. Hooray for cherry-picked stats, right? Despite the Adam and Alexis Shit-Powered Fan Murdering Machine, the team as a whole has done well since then. While they haven’t exactly maintained any heat, the coldness hasn’t been there either, thanks to the pitching staff.
While I pretty much gave up on this team as soon as I finished my entry to Rhubarb’s contest (watching the games while detached isn’t especially satisfying, but it offers a great deal of peace of mind on a daily basis), I am still enraged by Ozzie and the lineups/decisions he is being allowed to make. I took the pinch-hitting of Dunn as a personal “fuck you, Sox fan, I get to do what I want.” I’m generally middle-of-the-road as a fan, a non-reactionary; I’m usually willing to give the benefit of the doubt. While I understand that there are a ton of circumstances unknown by the general public, and that clubs are built on personal relationships, I do expect accountability for actions at some point.
This is that fucking point.
Be it Ozzie for his line-ups or for his pass-the-buck approach to personnel decisions, or K-Dub for his well-intentioned pooch screwing, A head should roll. Maybe more, but at least one. This organization lacks accountability up and down the, uh, chain of command. From Tdogg being allowed back to his seat on 5/21 to Williams waiting until his All Star right fielder is injured to call up Viciedo, not a person has been held accountable to making the right decision, or any decision, since… well, I’ll say the beginning of the season, but who really knows? Complacency and non-leadership are morale killers. I have no solid idea of what goes on in the clubhouse, but this lack of decision making, I’m sure, doesn’t bode well.
Also, while I’m ranting, I don’t entirely buy the “vote with your wallets” bullshit. Sure, if the team is awful then I’ll go to fewer games. But I’ll still make it a point to go to at least a few games, and I’ll still watch when I can. Certainly I don’t have to justify that to other SSS’ers. I’m a goddamn fan, goddamnit, and I’m not going to completely abandon the franchise that has so impacted my life because some hardheaded motherfuckers don’t want to make nice. If the organization, and Ozzie especially, can’t understand that or, worse, knowingly use it against me… well, they can kiss my fat German/Irish ass.
And there it is. I just showed that they wear the pants in this relationship. As if I weren’t used to that enough.
This concludes my baseball-related rant for the summer. It’s over three lines; can I have my auto-recs now?
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by Uribe Down on Sep 1, 2011 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions 13 recs
That was definitely a wuss move letting me back to my seat
no consequences for anything with this team.
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That was one of my favorite moment's of the summer
Multi-Flask TDogg not asked to leave. Just awesome.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Great.
I get to go home to this. If I burn the roast tonight, he’s gonna beat me.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 1, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions
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by South Side Expat on Sep 1, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
This made my morning.
Thank you.
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by homesickalien on Sep 1, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice post
Suggesting that going 4-2 against Detroit says absolutely nothing about every game counting, so I guess you just mad and wanted to post this somewhere?
If I said the Sox should go 112-50 this season you would be mad? Did I say, hey, let’s tip our cap to Verlander twice and try to win the other four? Your rant is appropriate, but as a response to me it involves about ten unwarranted assumptions.
by Gentleman Jim on Sep 1, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, sorry about that.
Your comment was just a jumping-off point for my pent up Ozzie anger. It wasn’t meant to be directed at you at all. Winning four of six against Verlander and Detroit would normally be quite acceptable. But now even winning series is too little, too late.
A two line response turned into, well… You know.
boom. pot roast. leftovers? -keystone connection
I don’t think Detroit is gonna keep up the pace.
by Cuban White Sox on Aug 31, 2011 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
de aza was benched in every game after he hit a hr
That’s insane
by roligan on Aug 31, 2011 10:39 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
sorry to post this cowley tweet
I wonder what Daryl Boston would have done with today’s lineup … can’t wait!!
6 hours ago via web
just puzzled that this is the 2nd time i think he mentioned daryl boston?? is he serious?
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 31, 2011 11:15 PM CDT reply actions
i thought we agreed we were just going to ignore that blowhard?
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
this
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by blackoutsox on Aug 31, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
it's only that the daryl boston remark is super out of nowhere and stupid
but i agree with you, i’ll discontinue posting about JC
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 1, 2011 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions
JC is my co-pilot.
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by winningugly on Sep 1, 2011 5:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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by billyok on Aug 31, 2011 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
ozzie would put a left handed ape in the lineup
if there was a right hander on the mound. just play the players who are producing please.
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Ozzie did put a left handed ape in the lineup.
It was the 9th inning in a crucial situation. He struck out.
by Bent Over Beckham on Sep 1, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm not a must-win-game guy, but Friday pretty much is.
Beating Verlander would be great. Maybe give us some momentum.
Lose and this season is ovah! 7 back with 5 h2h and fewer than 30 left to play. Liz will be singing then.
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by MarketMaker on Sep 1, 2011 1:19 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
nice use of Liz there
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 1, 2011 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if they're still married. WU does too.
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
by Chiburb on Sep 1, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think every time Rios or Dunn comes to the plate everyone should chant "Ozzie Ozzie"
Ozzie talks like a hard ass but I bet he’s take it personally.
If you want to win the division, you pretty much can't lose from here on out.
And no, 2 of 3 in Detroit isn’t enough. You have to win all 6 games against the Tigers – that’s the best possible mathematical situation you put yourself in. And please God, no more Rios in the 4th spot. Really Ozzie, there is no justification or reason, logical or illogical, for that. None. Nada.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 1, 2011 8:08 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed
Taking 2 out of 3 only gets you one game. Doing that twice, Sox are still 4 back.
De Aza should be batting 2, and Ramirez 4th or 5th. But my guess is, against Verlander, we are going to see Dunn batting 4th.
please no
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Sep 1, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Youdaman.
2 of 3 gets you one game? Fascinating.
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Look, all I'm saying is
I don’t trust this team to make up 1 game, let alone 4, 5, or 6. They need a sweep this weekend.
The WU Theorem was clearly established earlier
And before anyone even tries, I’m going to say that a sweep gets us 3 games. Dibs!
I shant be misled a second time
5 of 6 from Detroit is fine.
Its all unlikely but 2 of 3 this weekend from Tigers is a start. The sweep needs to come at home. Forget the 6 focus on the five back in the loss column.
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I got to thinking in the car coming to work this morning...
I was listening to the game yesterday and it was obvious Jake didn’t have it in the 1st. I’m sitting here saying “Go get him”. But no Ozzie left him in. He could have got Sale up and got at least 2+ innings out of him and got Jake out of there and turned their batting order around. I thought of this and I sell car parts for a living.
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