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KenWo's Corner- Where'd Everybody Go?

I attended three games on the most recent homestand; Tuesday vs. Tigers, Sunday vs. Red Sox and Wednesday vs. Yankees.  I was absolutely shocked by the lack of attendance at any of the three games.  

The Sox pulled within 3.5 games going into the Tuesday game against Detroit.  This was a crucial series as they were facing the top team in the division and it wasn't known whether or not the Sox were going to buy, sell or stand pat at the quickly approaching trade deadline.  The night before, which happened to be half price night, saw the attendance rise to 37,110.  I was expecting a large crowd on Tuesday as the pitching matchup was Justin Verlander vs. Jake Peavy.  I was somewhat surprised to see that only 28,093 paid to see that game.  

Then I went to the Sunday game vs. Boston, which also happened to be Frank Thomas day.  The weather was a little on the warm side, but it was a beautiful day with no clouds in the sky.  The paid attendance?  28,278.  Keep in mind they were handing out nifty miniature statues of the Big Hurt.  I was saddened by this.  In my opinion, Frank Thomas Day needed to be a sell out (even if they had a Frank Thomas Day last year too).  

Finally, with my parents on vacation I had 2 seats from my dad's 27 game plan on Wednesday.  They were facing the Yankees, so obviously you would think there would be a big crowd.  But as Jim pointed out, if you thought that you were wrong.  Only 23,873 were on hand to see the Sox get humiliated 18-7 and that was with attendance up 2,000 from the night before.  Granted, by this game the Sox had lost 4 in a row so maybe the walk up was effected by that.  But it was still the Yankees on a pleasant summer night.

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I didn't have to look hard for reasons why there might be a drop off.  I brought my son to the Tigers game, thinking I could carry him into the park.  He is only 3 years old, I figured it shouldn't be a problem as it never was before.  When I got up to the gate though, I was told he needed a ticket.  So I went to the window and asked the guy for the cheapest seat.  It was $22.  I have 2 kids, and unless it is a special event (like Frank Thomas Day) or I have an extra ticket on hand, there is no way in hell I am bringing them to another game.  How do they expect to grow the fan base when they make it hard on the parents to bring the young ones?

For Frank Thomas Day, they so nicely put it on a day that the club is facing the Red Sox so they can charge you "premier" price.  On a day when a statue is being unveiled or there is a special ceremony of some kind, I like to sit in the lower deck area to get a nice view, take pictures etc.  On this day, the lower deck seats cost me 53 dollars a ticket for outfield seats!  I had purchased these tickets the day seats went on sale to the public, so I had to buy another seat for my kid, which ran another $32 for upper deck.  Of course, you can't show that ticket to the ushers because the White Sox have that silly rule where if you have a 500 level ticket that isn't of the season ticket variety, you aren't allowed access into the lower deck area (even though the damn thing is $32, which is more than enough to keep the undesirable Ligue types out).  

Since there were 5 of us going to that game, including a kid in a car seat, we took 2 cars.  Normally I don't pay for parking due to the neighborhood pass that I get every year from a family friend in the area.  However, on this day I had to shell out the $23 for parking.  I have been to a lot of different parks, and there is always "tiers" for parking.  The nice lots right next to the stadium are more money than the ones 2 blocks away.  Not at the Cell.  I feel lucky I don't have to dish that out every time I attend.

Finally, with the Sox playing the Yankees on a Monday you would think its a great night to go see the Bombers for a discounted rate.  However, the Sox who are never ones to be outsmarted (at least they think so), did away with half price night.  The result?  24,142 to see CC Sabathia.  

The organization has not been able to maintain the momentum from the World Championship in 2005 on the field or at the box office.  

 

  • 2006- 2,957,414/  36,511
  • 2007- 2,684,395/  33,140
  • 2008- 2,500,648/  30,495*
  • 2009- 2,284,163/  28,199
  • 2010- 2,194,378/  27,091
  • 2011- 2,026,413/  25,017**
As you can see, the drop off has been steady each and every year.  Granted, the poor team of 2007 has a bit to do with it, but they made the playoffs in 2008 and have been in contention (for whatever reasons) the last three seasons.  They were 2.5 games back on August 23rd in 2009, they were tied for 1st on August 11 last season and were 3 games back a week ago.  Yet the attendance continues to fall.  The economy is a problem and the White Sox have not adjusted with it.  The Sox have the 4th highest average ticket price in all of baseball, and had a raise of nearly 2 dollars a ticket this year.  

What are some things they could do?

1.  They could knock it off with the crap/prime/premier ridiculousness.  They couldn't even sell out the Sox vs. Cubs series this year.  Granted the teams weren't playing well and it was on the weeknights but come on.  

2.  They could do away with the insane 500 level banning.  The issues they had with fans running on the field were a long time ago.  Its time to quit punishing people, who are paying between $17-32 depending on the night, for something some toothless goof did nearly a decade ago.

3.  If they are going to continue with the silly 500 level banning, then they need to chop the prices down up there.  I am sure they could get a lot more people in the house if they decided to charge $10 or so for the seats.

4. Tier the parking. Have 10 dollar lot for goodness sake.   Lot G should not be the same price as Lot B.

5. Offer discounts for children every game, not just the once a month kids day. There is no way a 3 year old should be paying the same as a 33 year old does.  

Lets get one thing straight, I am a fan of low attended games. If I have to take a leak, I can do so quickly.  If I want a pop or a beer, it can be done without missing a pitch.  I remember the days of 4 digit attendance at Old Comiskey Park, and quite frankly those are some of my favorite baseball memories.  However, this organization has a history of publicly blaming the fans for putting an inferior product on the field.  Next year, they need to look at themselves and adjust their pricing methods.

When people talk about Ozzie Guillen, they say that a main reason he should stay is because "he makes the White Sox relevant".  To be honest, if the attendance keeps on this downward trend they are going to be at pre-Ozzie levels in a year or two anyway. 



* The season had 82 home dates.

** That is going by the current average of home attendance.  Unless the Sox make some kind of a run, it will end up being less than those numbers due to school resuming, meaningless games and no more attendance boosting match-ups.  





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Mr. Reinsdorf - tear down this wall! the 500 rule is simply terrible

put ushers at the seat entrances, whatever. people should be able to tour the lower level before the game.

as for the rest, amen kenwo, amen. I should be able to wake up on a sunday morning, pull a 20 out of my pocket, and be able to get tickets for the upper deck or bleachers and a hotdog to spend my day.

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Aug 6, 2011 2:39 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

absolutely. the fact that the outfield seats on sunday were 52 dollars a piece

made me want to choke. 52 dollars. for one seat. 400 feet away. that is absolutely terrible.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

158

Right behind the Sox bullpen used to seem like one of the best deals in the house. I haven’t been their yet this season. And just like you guys I was stunned when I saw the “Premier” prices. Even if the Sox were 20 games over, that $50+ price is ridiculous.

by NWRick on Aug 6, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

dynamic pricing is smart.

but you can’t screw up the models it’s based on. which they clearly have, mostly thanks to team performance but also the economy. also, part of the point of dynamic pricing is that prices go lower when demand isn’t there. sports teams seem generally unwilling to take that step, in part, as i understand it, to not piss off people who paid more (often season ticket holders).

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely on the 500. Reinsdorf is as stubborn as Guillen.

He has to see the writing on the wall and get that done.
Sadly, the team really lost an opportunity to build a fan base since ’05.

by metasox on Aug 6, 2011 3:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

How does the children's price compare around the league these days?

I see that children up to age 2 or so are often free. Are tickets often discounted for others?

by metasox on Aug 6, 2011 4:03 AM CDT reply actions  

without doing much research at all...

i found the dodgers who have kids specials… 5 dollars kids tickets if you buy 2 adult tickets for the game

the angels who have 5 dollar kids pricing for all non premium games….

the pirates offer grandstand tickets for 6 dollars a kid. they also have “all you can eat seats” for 35 bucks where you can pig out on as much burgers, hot dogs, nachos, pop, salads, peanuts and ice cream they want.

the Mets have " BJ’s clubhouse" (which sounds more exciting than it is) where you can get seats in 2 sections of the park 10 dollars for kids and 20 for adults. they also have a “student rush program” where high school and college kids that show their ID can get in for 10 bucks.

The Angels have a $3 dollar kids and teen nights… which happen 2 times a month as well.

  
The only teams that has less deals that I looked up are the Red Sox and Cubs.

The Red Sox have sold out every game for nearly a decade. So they obviously don’t need ticket specials.

even the cubs offer regularly priced seats for 12 dollars or under on 24 occasions.

the best thing the white sox have are “value packs” which include an upper reserved ticket, a hot dog chips and a pop for 17 or 23 depending on if its a regular or prime date. this is only available on select dates though. 22 dollar days: 8/12, 8/20, 9/9, 9/25…. 17 dollar days: 8/16, 8/31, 9/28 or Half price mondays- which apparently doesn’t include every monday.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

premium game pricing

.. is for cub fans, red sox fans and yankee fans. aka stupid fans who will pay anything to see a game at the Cell so they can wear their “bad guy hats” to the game. So mgt says, jack up the prices and get the $.

Fine.

White Sox fans need to vote with their wallets. Mgt will get the message. Don’t pay it. Don’t go.

I don’t live in the Chi area so it’s a moot point to me. But shelling out $100 to take the family to a game is just nuts. What planet are these guys on?

And then.. some of these clowns down even hustle?!? Vote with your wallet!

Which, it sounds like, the fans are doing.

by ruffster on Aug 6, 2011 4:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure if you complained to Reinsdorf about these prices

he would just flash you the money sign with his hands. Where do you think Rios learned it?

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by keystone connection on Aug 6, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't know why some team somewhere hasn't tried at least experimenting with the idea of concessions being an actual reasonable price.

ridiculous prices are such a cliche that if someone actually tried it, i think it would become almost a media event. people would go nuts if they knew every game you could get a hot dog for $2.50 and a beer for $3.

by obnoxious american on Aug 6, 2011 6:55 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It's seems simple

I can understand the fearful logic, less alcohol = fewer fans running on field, but eventually you just alienate your fans. It’s like they’re going out of their way to get over on people.

And I’ll be damned if fans take any kind of blame for an underperforming teams, if they’d listen to us, Viciedo and De Aza would have been here ages ago and we’d probably be over .500. Money isn’t everythng.

Here’s an idea: White Sox Dog Days of Summer. Half Price on Food and and an Adam Dunn Fan for every one who shows up. I’m sure he’ll provide more than enough fans.

"Men Lie, Women Lie, Number Don't..."

by H20Flow on Aug 6, 2011 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think any time I wear his jersey to a game I should get in free. I wasted my money on that darn thing and I’m putting my pride on the line every time I pull it out of my closet.

I love the cheap(er) concessions idea, I’ve been saying it for years. If hot dogs were 2$ I would seriously buy at least 3, just for myself (I love ballpark food). Same thing for drinks. But I absolutely refuse to pay 6$ for even one hot dog, even if I haven’t eaten all day. I gotta believe that if they lowered prices they would make even more money because people would go bonkers like me (this is America, people like food just a bit).

GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!

by hoosier3 on Aug 6, 2011 8:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Adam Dunn fan"

excellent!

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by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 6, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Artie Moreno slashed ticket and beer prices as soon as he took over

and the Angels experienced a jump in 750,000 fans. granted, they were coming off a world series the year he took over so take it for what its worth.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

white sox had essentially the same jump after their world series.

i doubt the concession prices had much to do with the angels jump. every team gets a bump for the few years after they win the world series.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

They also used to cut corners by waiting to clean the stands til the next morning.

And then the rats came.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Aug 6, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

How does that save money?

It would still take the same amount of man-hours to clean the area.

by ObsidianXIII on Aug 6, 2011 12:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

no.

it’s to keep workers. having a set schedule is important to most workers, particularly since it’s a part time job. as i recall, the angels had their maintenance crews start at 5am, regardless of when the game was the prior day.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

5. Offer discounts for children every game, not just the once a month kids day. There is no way a 3 year old should be paying the same as a 33 year old does.

This.

by Sox-35th on Aug 6, 2011 7:35 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

Kids coming to games should be making new White Sox fans for life, and boosting attendance even 10-20 years down the road. Is it worth gouging ~$10-15 extra dollars out of the couple hundred 3-year olds at each game?

by Pumpkin McPastry on Aug 6, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poor people suck.

Seriously, the cheap seats need to be cheaper and kids/families need to be courted. But guess what? Alternative revenue sources like MLB.com make this less important to ownership. And every other Chicago sports franchise, save the Cubs (and excluding Veeck’s ownership) has always been infamous for skinflint owners.

So good luck with your suggestions Ken. I am not holding my breath for change we can believe in.

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2011 9:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

well i guess the point is...

they jacked everything up and cut out the specials they did have when the sox won the series.

now that the luster of that championship has worn off, they really need to do something. they are experiencing a major decline every year since that 2006 bump. in 3 years if this keeps up (the pricing and the mediocre on field play) they will be getting 16,000 a night.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't have much of an interest in this (other than realizing that their pricing for the dodgers tickets in 2009 was insane)

I have partial seasons tickets and get free tickets a bunch of times. I also have the neighborhood parking pass, i take advantage of the designated driver free sodas and i don’t eat much at the game because if i get riled up i’ll have to take a dump and id rather not do that at the park. lol.

but when they gouged my kid, charged me well over 200 dollars for 5 people to sit in the outfield and i heard they didn’t have half price day I started taking notice.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sox are counting on other teams fans...

It has not gone unnoticed that the tickets for games where there is a large contingent of the other teams fans…. Boston, Detroit, NY, Minneapolis…. are not higher priced. They have chosen to gouge everyone at these games.

by LorenzoBandini on Aug 6, 2011 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I used to take my nephews to the Bulls' games

when Jordan and Pippen left, and one could actually get tickets for games.

I taught them a life lesson, and that was how to grease an Andy Frain kid for better seats. All I do is either fold up a $20 into my palm (or a $50, depending on the game and seats) and make sure they see the bill when I show them my tickets and tell them we’re unhappy with our seats, and would like to upgrade, if possible. It was pretty much full-proof. I suppose one could just put a bill in between the tickets. They tell you to come back after tip-off, and they put you in the seats of people who never show up. And they take care of you.

My moment of pride was when my nephew told me that he and a bunch of friends went to the sox game, sat in the upper deck, and were denied entry because of this stupid rule. He got them to front the $20, and he got the lot of them onto the concourse.

He learned well.

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by TasteeFreeze on Aug 6, 2011 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

i have a lady on my facebook that read the article and she said

she went to blog night and asked boyer about the 500 level bannings and his answer was it will put too many people on the concourse and become an issue with the fire marshall. really? come on brooks. nobody is falling for that when the park is empty.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

assuming the accuracy of that statement

it is sort of hard to change rules back and forth based on game by game – or even yearly – attendance.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

when the park was larger and had more upper deck seats when it first opened...

and was selling massive amounts of tickets like new parks tend to do they didn’t have a problem with it.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

who is "they"

the white sox or the city. it should be obvious that, at some point, boyer is right: it would violate code for x number of fans from the upper deck to be wandering around the lower deck.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

they=either.

those rules weren’t put into place until that on field thing happened. yes at some point boyer is right- but no other park not even fenway which is a whole lot smaller than the cell is and gets a whole lot more people closes off the rest of the stadium.

people aren’t going to just be standing around on the concourse when the game is going on… the majority are going to want to sit, whether it be in empty lower deck seats or their own upper deck seats.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

the best rules are clear, without exception and uniformly enforced.

this certainly fits the bill.

obviously it’s convenient for the white sox to say the city made me do it. but part of the reason it’s convenient is that it’s damn plausible. as anyone who has dealt with the city knows, all it takes is one mid level bureaucrat on a power trip. and this isn’t one of those situations where you can get your buddies in city hall to lean on the guy. the tribune and sun times would have a field day with a story about the white sox using political influence to endanger thousands of people. guy was probably a cubs fan from the northwest side.

as for fenway, obviously they aren’t subject to the code in chicago. and they probably are in compliance with whatever they need to be in compliance with. fenway gets a lot of attention because of its age.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

i just spoke to my cubs fan buddy

and he said everyone has access in wrigley to anywhere except you can’t get out to the bleachers without a bleacher ticket. which makes sense since a lot of people would be going out there due to how famous the wrigley bleachers are.

they would have to be subject to the code in chicago.

the whole conversation is stupid because they haven’t been selling enough tickets to fill the lower bowl for most of the season.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

were the game sold out, that would be the situation where the risk would be greatest

but you can’t just decide on a game-to-game basis whether to open the lower deck to 500-level holders. i’ve had experience where if you tell the usher you want to visit the gift shop on the 100 level you can usually get down there. also i’ve given the usher at the club level $5 to get me and my buddy in and that worked as well.

by moroots on Aug 6, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok... well then if they want to keep the 500 level separated (for whatever BS reason they choose)

then they need to lower the prices on those seats or they will continue to be empty until the sox win another world series.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think it's pretty obvious that they need to lower prices, particularly given the economy.

i suspect they will.

for those who follow such things, the white sox have really stepped up the promotions/coupons/etc. online this season (even before the team sucked).

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

and i don't think it would be that big of an issue on going by a game by game basis.

they can tell when they are going to get 35,000 in the park and when they are going to get 25,000.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

but then you have people whining because they don't understand the rules.

as i said, the best rules and simple, clear and without exception. people can easily grasp such things. and people can’t argue with such things.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i'm arguing with it.

like i said this rule wasn’t around when there was 45,000 capacity. now it is 7,000 less than that. they didn’t chop off any of the concourse.

in my opinion it is obvious that they are copping out because reinsdorf didn’t like the negative press after those trailer trash bastards attacked gamboa and laz diaz. which happened a long time ago.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't frequent wrigley often

but, as i recall, it would be kind of hard to deny people access to the lower level concourse since the entrances to the stadium go directly to it.

by larry on Aug 6, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, I believe the bleachers are physically separated from the grandstand.

Ticket holders would have to leave the ballpark in order to enter the other section, which, of course, is prohibited throughout MLB.

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by Uribe Down on Aug 6, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

"uniformly enforced"

This IS Chicago…

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by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 6, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same culture methinks

"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 6, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

While it can be argued that a regional culture is or isn't an influence here

it’s not “silly” to think that a regional or metropolitan or even neighborhood (read 11th ward) culture can influence organizations of any type. They exist and the distinctive Chicago cultural attitude toward uniform enforcement of clearly defined rules may not be alien to the White Sox organization is all I’m suggesting.

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by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 6, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

as i understoond it, those rules were directly attributable to

incidents. I am not buying the fire thing – its’ just an excuse. Modern ballparks are designed for easy access in and out. Was at a Giants game in SF recently – completely full and fans free to roam anywhere.

by metasox on Aug 6, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth

there was an email sent out to season ticket holders asking if there was a reduction in pricing for 2012 “How likely are you to renew?”

So they “may” be taking notice. I have been saying for years they need to have the 500 level seats $15 regardless of the opponent and day of the week. Charging $40+ to sit in the 500 level for “Premier” games is an absolute joke. This organization really had a chance to grow the fan base after the World Series and become one of the truly relevant franchies in the league and they blew it.

by Sox2727 on Aug 6, 2011 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

id rather sit in the better upper deck seats (between 1st and 3rd within the first 10 rows) for 40

than the bleachers for 50. either way, i agree with you. to have 10,000+ fewer fans per game 5 years after the bump indicates there are some serious problems.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

i couldnt agree with you more

thats good news about a possible ticket reduction, too

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by e-gus on Aug 6, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice piece, KenWo.

Regarding walk-ups, I, for one, wouldn’t have even thought to walk up. Before these series, I thought that they would be sold out, as in past years. Perhaps some others felt the same way and didn’t even bother trying.

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by Uribe Down on Aug 6, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

probably the only post where ive agreed with you completely

and i tend to agree with you often. sidenote, ive only been to 2 games at the cell. the first of which was in the 500 deck and i was unaware of the rule preventing the touring of the lower deck. that made getting there 2 hours early extremely boring. next way was the lower deck and proved to be so much more awesome. both days were denardedly expensive as they were vs the cubs.

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by BoeJouma on Aug 8, 2011 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

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