Disrespect Digest: Platooning De Aza because it's easy
Last Wednesday, Alejandro De Aza reached base four times -- 2-for-3 with a double, two walks and stolen base, leading to two runs.
He sat the next day.
When he came back on Friday, he went 2-for-4, and drew a walk for the sixth straight game.
He sat the next two days.
Why was De Aza on the bench, despite hitting .322/.383/.545 over 134 plate appearances? Despite playing a more authoritative outfield than the two healthy veterans?
The reason on paper is because the opponent started a left-handed pitcher that day, and De Aza is a left-handed hitter. But that's not actually the reason -- if platoon splits were truly an impetus for action, Alex Rios would sit against nearly every righty, and Adam Dunn wouldn't be allowed within 100 feet of a left-handed pitcher.
De Aza, on the other hand, is hitting 286/.375/.357 against lefties, albeit in 16 plate apearances. However, you can back that up with a solid performance against them (.306 average, .344 OBP) against them in Charlotte. Whatever the case, he has recent history on his side, whereas Dunn, even with two hits against lefties on Sunday, still has some work to do. I haven't been able to find another player who batted below .100 in 100 plate appearance against lefties, at least in his lifetime.
Dunn and Rios play on, though, which means the most likely reason De Aza can't get playing time against lefties is because it provides a convenient reason to bench him. We're well aware of Ozzie Guillen's rules by now: If you didn't acquire a Role-with-a-capital-R in March, you can't have one now unless injury strikes. To remove a veteran from his Role would be disrespectful of all veterans near and far.
That's Ridiculous-with-a-capital-R, because De Aza should have a Role-with-a-capital-R next year, and next year should be what the Sox are playing for.
Wait -- actually, in the event that Guillen is managing to wring the most wins out of a possible lame-duck season, De Aza is also a better option to win now. There's literally no reason why De Aza should sit in favor of Rios, Dunn and even Juan Pierre, who gave away several bases with his defense last week by treating grounders along the sidewall like live grenades.
I'm not certain whether Guillen wants to keep his job, but by deferring to veterans through the end of the year, he's showing why the Sox need a change in leadership. A reluctance/inability/outright refusal to change Roles isn't a problem that's unique to this year, because Guillen failed to bench or otherwise disturb the existence of underperforming veterans in previous seasons. We're just seeing what it looks like when it's taken to its most absurb extremes, enabled by a toothless general manager. The only guy who comes out looking good is the guy who doesn't get to play.
Disrespect in the news:
Greg Walker: The perpetually embattled hitting coach still has Paul Konerko in his corner, as the White Sox captain said, "Walk's my guy." As frustrating as that might be to hear, it's an article that's worth reading for his insights on what Walker has had to deal with this season.
Juan Pierre: The perpetually embattled left fielder has discovered the problem with his brand of baseball.
It's that ... nobody else is playing it?
"Most leadoff guys can hit the ball out of the park, and now everybody is playing a more aggressive style of baseball," said Pierre during a recent interview. "There's no taking pitches or trying to let the guy move the ball over as far as the American League goes.
"The National League still does it more. But in the AL, usually the leadoff guys are hitters more than working counts and doing that stuff first and then hitting kind of second."
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Oh, this is rich:
Hitters say hitting coaches have the hardest job in sports.
Paulie, we love ya, but you have to see the forest through the trees on this one. Juan, you’ve had a pretty good career. You work hard, of course, but you’ve lost your most valuable tool. Alexis, talcum powder can be used to prevent blisters on the pads of your fingers. Dunn, you owe me… a lot… of money. You also taught me to never make casual bets with Cubs fans, so thanks for that. Alejandro, don’t let The Organization get you down. Jim, at this point I’m pretty sure your goal is to depress the hell out of everyone. Mission accomplished, Tokyo Jim.
The policeman who jumps from a bridge to a plane is Detective John McClane, a.k.a. Bruce Willis. He’s just the star of the whole movie series and stuff, no big deal or anything. -Cruiser
by Uribe Down on Sep 20, 2011 1:51 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You didn't mention another possibility:
A final eff you to Kenny, saying “it’s not me, it’s the crappy team you assembled” as he heads out the door for the last time.
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
by Chiburb on Sep 20, 2011 4:25 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
i think it's a combination of this, and that ozzie has a poor offensive philosophy in general (in my opinion)..
even if ozzie doesn’t want his job back, even if kenny provided him dunn/rios, how does it reflect well with other evaluators (marlins management, fanbase) that ozzie routinely passed on other options like de aza and viciedo?
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 20, 2011 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions
i don't think this can be opinion anymore.
do you really think ozzie even respects the most remedial of advanced stats?
by obnoxious american on Sep 20, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Judging by Dunn's and Rios's playing time, I don't think he respects counting stats either.
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
I'll bet my bottom dollar that
Secretly, in the recesses of his twisted little brain, he felt disrespected as a veteran. I don’t know if it was Booby Cocks or Turry Buhveentin or whoever but he probably told himself, “us Gud is muh wutnuss, uf Uh munuhgur, I nuvur dusruspuct vuturuns, nuvur!”
reading this, i hear the minnesotean dialect
or the swedish chef, same thing i guess.
by obnoxious american on Sep 20, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
We've seen Rhubarb's act.
It’s all blending together. Sex, blood, magic, drugs.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
It's already spelled out.
Helen Keller can see it. Fer Chrissakes.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
Your mood swings with the market and you are goddamn pimp of cougars with melanoma?
Also, my latest post has no sex, magic, drugs or blood.
I simply used the vowel 'u' as a replacement for all vowels, somehow thinking this would translate to Venezuelan dialect
guess I was wrung.
from what i've read here,
i’ll chalk this up as the first thing you’ve done wrung, ever.
by obnoxious american on Sep 20, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Ozzie won't be here next year
Just enjoy the show on the way out the door.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Alejandro De Huzzah
I shant be misled a second time
by Nordhagen on Sep 20, 2011 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
and thanks dj,
Dunn, even with two hits against lefties on Sunday, still has some work to do.
i can’t even read an innocuous sentence like this without getting pissed off now.
by obnoxious american on Sep 20, 2011 9:24 AM CDT reply actions
he's got to realize he's making fun of himself at this point.
"keep a weather eye on the horizon, dearest captain of the douche canoe" - BJ
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 20, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
DJ has been self-parody from day one
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
The most meta radio announcer ever.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
i bet if you told him that,
he wouldn’t know what the hell you were talking about.
by obnoxious american on Sep 20, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I heard a rumor that he modeled himself on what he'd be like if Community ever made an episode about him.
by mechanical turk on Sep 20, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
working thru season 2 of that show on DVR. i'm about to give up. too much crap between laughs.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
there's a number of good episodes
but a lot of just not finished or unrealized ones.
if you didn’t like dungeons and dragons, i’m tempted to say skip the whole thing. i’m still optimistic about s3. i think the showrunner learned from the experience.
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
While it's clear that De Aza is the better player at this point...
by a country mile, I can see an argument for keeping Dunn and Rios in the lineup at least a few times a week. Yes, they are playing for next year, but next year (unless something crazy happens) is going to include Dunn and Rios. It’s going to be tough to just cast them aside for the next few years and hope they never have to see the field. It’s in the team’s best interest to keep them engaged and hope for some type of rebound next year. I can see the argument from both sides, but this is just my opinion.
It will also be interesting to see how often De Aza finds himself on the bench next season once Pierre is gone and there is no longer another prototypical leadoff guy on the roster.
I respect konerko for coming out in favor of walker again.
that is some pretty big praise he has given him. saying he’d only hit 25 homers and 80 rbi’s without his help… and he has constantly been above 30 and 100 with him.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
well at least now we finally know the purpose of a hitting coach
Getting players more RBI.
I shant be misled a second time
Except its stupid and not true
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
i think its pretty true. he said he broke down his whole swing for him.
Konerko is becoming a border line hall of famer because of the help he received from greg walker. impressive.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Yeah he's become a real Tiger Woods.
As I told you, Konerko was headed to the prime of his career.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
in a decade in the organization, this seems to be walker's only success story.
while it’s wonderful that paul konerko is hitting just super, unfortunately, paul konerko can’t do it by himself.
i always thought konerko had one of the best right handed swings
since before sarge was here.
by obnoxious american on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty True?!?
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Sep 21, 2011 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions
He's losing his educational edge by being a housefrau.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Sep 21, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
2007: crappy team around him = low RBIs
2008: hurt
2009: down year, statistical performance within the norm.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Walker helped him
but this narrative of turning him around like he was some shitty hitter is goofy.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I agree with you
I was just providing a context.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
he was ok.
and like he said he would get hotter and colder more often than anyone not named ray durham. he’s become a consistent producer.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I agree with that
but in terms of what a hitting coach does or doesn’t do can often be up for debate. I subscribe to the theory that there are really two kinds of hitting coach:
Charlie Manuel
Everybody else
For Walker specifically, it might be time for a parting of the ways as either what he is doing doesn’t seem to be working. Maybe that is people ignoring him and listening to their own batting coaches, I don’t know. I don’t think another hitting coach will magically turn this roster into All-Stars, but I don’t they they should continue on status quo.
by notoneyguillen on Sep 20, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ll hang up and wait for your answer.
by notoneyguillen on Sep 20, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Walt Hriniak, Charley Lau.
Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?
sigh
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Sep 20, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
You really like the unrelenting and uncompromising parts of coaches huh?
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
phew, Toe Boat has been moved down in the order!
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.

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