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Reading Room: Choosing rationalization over revenge

Brett Ballantini took to the locker room prior to Wednesday's game to follow up on the plunkings suffered during Tuesday's doubleheader, and what he discovered ... won't surprise you.

Chris Sale: "I don’t really do too well in situations like that," he admitted. "I just go out there and give everything I’ve got and try to do my job."

Sergio Santos: "You have to look at the situation, the pitch, the count, and make a decision about whether someone is being thrown at intentionally."

Paul Konerko: "I don’t think any of them were intentional, but there’s a cumulative thing that kind of adds up after awhile. So, we’ll see how it goes."

(When Brett was tweeting shorter forms of these quotes prior to the game, he said that Konerko "seemed a touch hopeful but then sort of trailed off.")

There's not much more I have to say about the topic -- I don't think anybody wants me to tack on another 2,500 words about it -- but Konerko's point confuses me the most about the whole thing. You'd think it would be in the pitching staff's best interest to make sure that errant pitches don't knock out starting position players, and dragging a warning out of an umpire is the best way to do it. But when hearing Santos rationalize it, they sound like they're trying to procrastinate long enough for the window of opportunity to close, followed by, "Oh, I was totally going to hit them!"

The way Jesse Crain pitched Trevor Crowe in the eighth inning basically symbolized the internal "I-will-I-shouldn't" debate they grapple with. 3E8 grabbed the pitch map, and it might be the first Brooks graph to make me laugh out loud:

The saddest part is that even though Crain didn't hit Crowe, it still resulted in a free base, via a full-count walk.

Star-divide

 

Christian Marrero Reading Room

Mark Buehrle secured a winning record for the season with his victory over the Tribe on Wednesday, and now the attention turns to his next and last start of the year. Will it be a season finale or series finale?

Ozzie Guillen supposedly loves what Alejandro De Aza is doing ... but nobody asked him why De Aza has been platooned while lesser outfielders play every day. He's already eclipsed 2 WAR, which makes him the fourth-most valuable position player, or third-most if you only factor in the healthy players.

Chris Sale didn't need much minor-league seasoning when it came to pitching, and you could say the same thing about the way he handles tough questions. When asked which role he would like to assume in 2012, he answered it perfectly:

"Obviously, I would like starting. I grew up, ever since I've been pitching, I've been a starter since summer ball, college, everything," said Sale, who nervously laughed when making his choice, despite staying relatively non-committal. "If the last choice came to me, I'd like to start.

"But at the end of the day, I have nothing to complain about so far. It's not like I'm unhappy with the role I'm in. By no means is it anything like that. I'd like to get an opportunity to start and if it happens, awesome. If not, I'm still lucky to be where I am."

Omar Vizquel wants to play one more year, which is awesome, because if he plays one game at shortstop at any point after April 24, he will be the first 45-year-old to play the position in a major-league game. Many teams could carry him on the bench to accomplish this goal, but as Larry wrote a few weeks ago, it just can't be a team as production-starved as the Sox.

J.J. notes that Alexei Ramirez is being more selective, but it's not necessarily resulting in better pitches to hit. He's been an interesting guy to follow over his first four seasons, because it's almost been like watching four different hitters, but it seems like he's destined to end up at an OPS just shy of .750 no matter what. Which is fine from a shortstop.

Over at Baseball Prospectus, Mike Fast breaks down how well catchers are able to frame pitches. If you can't read the first link due to a paywall, Rob Neyer offers a nice summary of how Fast went about it.

A.J. Pierzynski comes out looking OK, scoring slightly above average in each year (saving one to three runs a season). To get an idea of the range, Jose Molina dominates the top end (he saved 26 runs in 2008), whereas Ryan Doumit occupied the cellar that seson with a -36. Fast compared their techniques to see what might've caused such a difference:

Molina got quite a few more strike calls on the outside edge with left-handed batters at the plate than Doumit did.

Compare Molina and Doumit’s movements in the following pitch animations. Despite Doumit’s solid stance and subtle glove movement, he dropped his head to follow the pitch into his glove and he hunched down slightly, as if he were trying to coax the ball carefully into his glove. Molina’s head stayed mostly stable as he received the pitch.

Doumit dropped his head on 11 of the 12 pitches I reviewed on video. On the one pitch where he did not do that, he got a strike call. Molina dropped his head to follow the ball into the glove on two of the 10 pitches I reviewed on video, and both of those pitches were called balls.

This fascinates me, because I'd always paid attention to how a catcher moved the glove, but never what he did with his head. So this gives me something else to pay attention to as the Sox play out the string -- does the way Pierzynski catch borderline pitches differ from Tyler Flowers' technique?

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Revenge is a dish best not served at all.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 22, 2011 7:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Posted that before reading Brett's article.

(Cough). Oops.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 22, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Revenge is a dish best served.

You know, like a waiter.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, you're straight.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Met a very nice Canadian girl last night.

Disappointed a bit by the lack of accent.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

People from the Dakotas have accents.

Why does she not? I am getting to the bottom of this mystery Friday.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck

Hope she’s old enough to have her driver’s license

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Eh?

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 22, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kept trying to get her to say that.

No dice.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

This is just sad.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Pacifists.

If Konerko can’t muster the anger to do more than kinda sorta almost be sick of guys getting hit, it’s easy to see why the pitchers shrug it off.

He went to his window, threw it open and yelled “I’m mildly irritated, and I will probably continue to take it, until….I don’t know….something….”

by Titan52 on Sep 22, 2011 8:30 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Konerko wears his anti- "rah-rah" stance on his sleeve.

I think he’s come to learn that he needs zero emotion to be the best hitter he can be. Probably a good approach. But it spills into everything. “Rah rah” guys like Swisher and OrCa must be eliminated. Visible FIRE must be suppressed.

This team is so bland, it boggles the mind. The next methup should be called a MEH-up.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Sep 22, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's nothing bland about the meth-up's

This group can’t be contained by the Sox misery.

by Grinder in Training on Sep 22, 2011 10:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Obviously you have not attended such a function.

Please discuss Full Tilt Poker’s demise with Tdog if you wish to opine on a subject of which you are not intimately familiar.

Or you could pry a few sheckels from your cold fingers, buy a plane ticket, and see for yourself, you cheap screw.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike McDermott: [Narrating] They’re trying to goad me, trying to own me. But this isn’t a gunfight. It’s not about pride or ego. It’s only about money. I can leave now, even with Grama and KGB… and halfway to paying Petrovsky back. That’s the safe play. I told Worm you can’t lose what you don’t put in the middle. But you can’t win much either.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would love to

I always try and fail to work that out. I need to check this out. Ironically, summer weekends are my busy time.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Sep 22, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

why is that ironic?

Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg

by Jack M on Sep 22, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That I have less time available to be engaged with a pastime I enjoy within its actual season

As opposed to the offseason, when I have more time for baseball

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Sep 22, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitching repertoires and BABIP
Are changeup-heavy pitchers allowing weaker contact, or are these findings just the result of a confluence of luck and limited data? Unless we obtain a lot of HIT-f/x data, we won’t know the answer to this question. But based on the above information, I would feel comfortable saying that there is evidence supporting a BABIP-suppressing skill for changeup-heavy pitchers.

If we do accept that changeup-heavy pitchers have BABIP-suppressing skill, we also need to accept that this skill is not very large. In a way, that makes this just another win for DIPS.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/pitching-repertoires-and-babip/

by larry on Sep 22, 2011 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

That's because he sits in a radio studio

Let’s say on the field he is 100% correct. Would that change the fact that sometimes important teammates might feel differently on the matter? If yes then it does accomplish something.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

That’s because they lay a giant turd every July, August and Sept.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think he's a part time troll.

there’s no way he can actually believe this wholeheartedly.

by obnoxious american on Sep 22, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'll preface this by saying i have no idea if it will accomplish anything at this point or not

but it just kind of seems too late to me. the team gave up a while ago so i don’t understand why it matters if they win or lose. the bottom of the 8th inning tuesday night was the time to do something.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Sep 22, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose morally he's kinda right, turn the other cheek, give to no one evil for evil and whatnot

And giving an opponent free trips to first base is generally a bad idea.

But it seems Konerko has noticed that the Indians have guys pitching inside who apparently aren’t competent enough to do it without creating a hazard. Without retaliation there’s no accountability for that.

Say in an ambiguous way that sometimes when you work inside, your release point can get a little off and bad things can happen and the next day a Sox pitcher is working inside and woopsie-daisy.

by Titan52 on Sep 22, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It doesn't really

Also, as I have said here before. Bernstein does a schtick on the radio. He is trying to fire up the meatballs to the point that they get angry enough to call in and sound like the idiots that they are.

Its no different from him saying that people shouldn’t fight in hockey games. The reality of both situations is hitting a guy with a pitch or punching a guy in the face rarely has much of an impact on the outcome of a game.

by 815Sox on Sep 22, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course it doesn't impact the actual game

that’s not the point.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Team solidarity baby

Especially in the AL when the pitchers never have to face each other and worry about getting plunked. You are showing your hitters you’ve got their back. Hopefully they reciprocate with a little offense for you.

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right, but that doesn't really accomplish anything

that doesn’t have impact on the game.

just playing Devil’s advocate here, I think this entire situation is pathetic.

by 815Sox on Sep 22, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think attitude from the players has a lot of impact on the game.

How often have we fumed on this site that the Sox look listless in the field and already beaten by the thrid inning if they cough up a few runs to start? Someone has to stoke the fires on this team and if plunking can do it, put one in their best batter’s ribs.

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some impact then

I don’t think it is negligible.

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree there

It’s why it bothers me so much to see the team just going through the motions. You can argue that winning breeds excitement, but I say you need a little excitement, or at least some interest in what you are doing, to get the winning going and the Sox missed a lot of that this year. Sure, no amount of vigor will make up for a lack of talent, but going through the motions will diminish talent. Taka Tanaka may have said it best, but this team needs some marbles.

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rios, Dunn, Che (not nearly as much), Danks, Floyd

Those are off the top of my head, but there were plenty of at bats this year where I was wondering if they were even trying or innings pitched where Danks or Floyd just dragged to the mound or off it once they got through. There was a lot of lifeless baseball this year and the threads are full of complaints that echo my sentiments.

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Making it to the major leagues is pretty competitive

I find it hard to believe anyone who doesn’t care or isn’t trying could possibly make it onto a MLB roster in the first place.

by moroots on Sep 22, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

quantity does not equal reality.

i find all of this quite amusing. please carry on.

by larry on Sep 22, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i've never heard of a lazy route before.

what is that?

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Sep 22, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

None of us have access to the clubhouse (other than Brett)

I think there is something to be said about mood, personality, motivation, satisfaction levels, comfortability etc…I don’t think anyone is going through the motions but sometimes it seems like they don’t do anything above and beyond of what we, as fans, expect of them. Underperformance, based on science and eyeballed expectations seems to have run rampantthe past half a decade. Is it the vanilla-type players the Sox employ (to borrow aphrase from someone yesterday), is it the people who are paid to manage them not pushing them enough or do White Sox fans expect too much? (for that matter all baseball fans expect too much) There is definitly a sinking feeling that fans get when their team isn’t clicking at any level, imagine the weight of that feeling in the clubhouse where they are in that fog on a daily basis.

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course none of this is quantifiable so I understand why people would pooh pooh this

It is difficult to put into words why this team has been ehhhhh. It is more of a feeling of dread or a stagnant cloud that everyone in the organization breathes in and passes along like a virus to the next-iteration of the the team.

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

people don't pooh pooh it

it’s just rather unlikely that any of it has much impact, particularly when compared to about ten other factors.

by larry on Sep 22, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if Dunn and Rios play at replacement level or if they were put on the pine and replacement level players take their place

the Sox would have been a far better team but these historically bad season from these two players cannot really be explained at this point in their careers. Is it environmental or is it bad luck that we have two players with big contracts, that for some reason declined so far and so fast, faster and further than any other players ever have, that we could not or would not replace their production. In that case it is the management creating this environment where there is no accountability for actions…which spills over onto the rest of the team and presses them with the weight of the world.

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who?

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Effing kids.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

one of these days you are going to get old enough where not doing anything in the offseason is going to have an adverse effect on your production.

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

larry doesn't pick up a laptop over the winter.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Have you seen his arms?

Can’t lift it.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

How has he dogged it at the plate?

I believe we’ve all made the point that Dunn has not dogged it – if anything he’s Eeyored it – but has just flat-out sucked. You want to say Rios is dogging it, fine. We’ve called out Rios’ poor routes to fly balls, his trotting in on pop-ups, etc. But with the rest of your examples I believe you are creating a poor fantasy.

We stink on ice. The players are generally unemotional about it. It disturbs those of us who are emotional beings. It doesn’t mean they are dogging it.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

i like how, of all the players, the one people can generally agree (or at least concede) may be dogging it

is the one who breaks bats, throws shit around and generally shows the emotion some people want to see to believe that players are trying.

by larry on Sep 22, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He may be volatile and have mood swings

but it doesn’t negate the facts that he’s lollygagged more than one play in CF. But it does speak to the canard that emotional players are somehow “better” or “care” more.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your mentor's address please?

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Sep 22, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Somebody should punch Bernstein in the face at random intervals during his radio

show. Then he could see firsthand if physical intimidation impacts performance.

by dtv on Sep 22, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

As he would respond, "11 years doing the same show."

Considering how long he’s been on the air, he has been successful. I think he’s confident to the point of arrogance, yes, but I also think he’s usually correct.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 22, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like larry, but on the radio.

"Alex is our best option right now." - Ozzie Guillen answering the media regarding Alex Rios continually batting clean-up (8/31/11)

by tailgater on Sep 22, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buehrle's next start will be series and season ending for him

The real question is whether it will be career ending, at least for his time with the White Sox.

I hope not.

by justjc on Sep 22, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

I doubt it. If something was going to happen, it should have happened

yesterday in a meaningless game. Early next season, the games will “mean something” which will make a convenient excuse to do nothing.

by dtv on Sep 22, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

one more game today!

unless you knew that and are saying today’s game is meaningful?

Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg

by Jack M on Sep 22, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Konerko's hip must still be creaky.

F’in’ Judy.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 22, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sore back.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Sep 22, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured when he wasn't in the lineup yesterday they didn't want him being a part of a plunk war

as it turns out that was quite silly of me. I still think it was a marketing ploy you developed to make me watch the game and hence click on your site. You are not only a machine but are an abominable genius.

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim has become the leading poster during GT's.

Gotta keep up the clicks. I bet he goes to every kiosk in Albany to log on.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim is HAL

with multiple accounts…why did I not see this before? He is also mechanical turk! Just look at this! http://www.robotyell.com/2011/daisy-bell-rendition/

The conspiracy goes deeper…he is also The Face…http://www.facebook.com/pages/FACE-TURK/105217632854828

Pardon me, I am being strangled by something invisible, I must step away from the computer

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought his name was Juan?

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Sep 22, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I especially like More5.

Like the Jackson 5.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Uh, reply fial.

Poetic effing justice.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 22, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty good, joe.

Pretty good.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

#feed5

Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg

by Jack M on Sep 22, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i knew as soon as i posted it!

rec bait? erm

Easy chief
We’re a community - Tdogg

by Jack M on Sep 22, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I really don't get it.

Must be a Gen Y thing.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

It’s an Illini thing.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soon to represent Mr. Young.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 22, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont get it either.

How bout The MC5? Yeah? Bring it back for the OPOS…

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Sep 22, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kick out the jams!!!

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Motor City 5, Northwestern 0

Not moors, however the MC5 did belong to the White Panther Party.

Throwing the big lasso, here.

Lebowski’s rug.

by Secret Chimp on Sep 22, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a Miracle.

"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to the day Juan Pierre no longer

occupies the lead off position daily.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2011 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't Juan to see him no more

beyond pointless. I have to hope he’s only playing because no PK or Q.

He still doesnt have to lead off.

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Sep 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Homer Simpson on revenge:
Big brother representative: Now, Mr. Simpson, may I ask why you’re here?
Homer’s brain: Don’t say revenge. Don’t say revenge.
Homer: Ummm… revenge?
Homer’s brain: Okay, that’s it. I’m outta here. (step step step step step… slam)

Taken from http://www.kerp.net/homer.html

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

by lastof12 on Sep 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Meth-up at the Atlantis in the Bahamas next year?

I couldn’t have done it with out you guys…Today I closed a deal that put me over my yearly billing goal (3 months early) to make Pacesetter Trip next March two weeks before the 2012 season kicks-off. Thanks for keeping me sane during stressful deals SSS (I had eight of them go south, either through firings, quittings or offer rejections). The best part is…as soon as that cash comes in, my boss gives me an $800 ergonomic. Novemeber 1st I will be sitting on air.

by Rhubarb on Sep 22, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

good on you, broham

My neighbor prattles on about Herman Miller chairs. Supposed to be the cats ass, but I never sat on one. Is that what you’re getting?

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Sep 22, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

well done

what do you do again?

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

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