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White Sox to reconsider ticket prices, but...

"OK, now I can hear you."

Ed Sherman of Crain's Chicago Business talked to Brooks Boyer as the White Sox start forming a strategy to tackle the attendance problem.

The whole thing is worth reading, but I'll highlight my favorite part:

Mr. Boyer said fans likely will "see more dynamic ticket pricing from us."

"It'll be like how the airlines price their tickets," Mr. Boyer said. "The earlier you buy, the better deal you get. We might have an outfield seat for an April game where when that ticket first goes on sale, it might be dynamically priced at 30% below face value. As you get closer to the game, you get closer to the base price."

On the other side, the prices could rise for marquee games against teams like the Yankees, Mr. Boyer said.

In 2011, the White Sox and Yankees played a Monday-Thursday series in August. The timing of the series, the dramatic premium-game markups and the lackluster play of the home team resulted in the lowest attendance for Sox-Yankees games since 2005.

In 2012, the Sox and Yankees will play a Monday-Wednesday series in August, so they won't even be able to work with the most favorable weekday this time. Raising ticket prices in response would fly in the face of the concept of supply and demand, and it puts all the pressure on the White Sox to provide highly compelling baseball.

If that sounds familiar, it's the same strategy they used this season. It didn't work so well.

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Is this for real?

After the shit sandwich they served us this year, they expect us to spend more for tickets. Its like asking for more money when I didn’t do my job.

"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11

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by rangerjae on Sep 26, 2011 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen met with team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf on Monday, according to Guillen’s agent.

Guillen was scheduled as a guest for the “Scott Van Pelt Show” on ESPN Radio but his agent told the show’s producer that Guillen had a meeting with Reinsdorf that would conflict with the appearance.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7023269/chicago-white-sox-ozzie-guillen-meets-owner-jerry-reinsdorf

by larry on Sep 26, 2011 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Ozzie doesn't like the new ticket pricing scheme

White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.

by greenlight on Sep 26, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

That’s not a/a good sign

"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11

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by rangerjae on Sep 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that, Brooks.

Have fun.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I just filled out their goddamn survey yesterday and bitched about ticket prices.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis

by Servant2LordBeckham on Sep 26, 2011 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, base it on how airlines sell their tickets

Nothing says “good business” like a half-full 737 going to SFO because people didn’t want to visit United’s website 12 months before their departure date.

Ask TWA and PanAm how that worked out for them.

Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?

by AirTrafficAJ on Sep 26, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

His job is to land the planes, not fill them.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Sep 26, 2011 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

pushing tin

What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!

by 67WMAQ on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

very true

Makes no difference to me if the planes are full.

Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?

by AirTrafficAJ on Sep 26, 2011 8:11 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

actually

Major Airline business policy (with the exception of Southwest) hasn’t changed much since the inception of the Internet. Websites like Expedia and Travelocity rarely offer cheaper fares than the actual airline’s websites.

And the practice of charging more as your travel date nears flies in the face of good business sense.

Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?

by AirTrafficAJ on Sep 26, 2011 8:09 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

southwest is the best

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Sep 26, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the majority of flyers don't buy their tickets 6 months in advance.

Charging 300% for a ticket bought 10 days in advance results in a TON of empty seats. Not to mention most airlines are still charging bag fees that came out of a time when Aviation gas was upwards of $6 a gallon. It’s now down around $4, but the bag fees are still around. It’s why for the longest time, Southwest was the only airline making money.

Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?

by AirTrafficAJ on Sep 27, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

i dunno.

i don’t think i’ve been on a flight recently that wasn’t overbooked, or very near to it. i’m usually flying major routes, so maybe that’s a difference. things aren’t like they were, say, 6 or 7 years ago when i’d have a row to myself to laguardia.

and i rather thought the point of charging much more 14 days (or 7 days by LUV etc) or closer was because those people (me) probably aren’t going on some spur of the moment trip for amusement’s sake but because we have to get to wherever on that particular day and particular time and don’t really have much alternative than paying more. they seem to use some of that money to buy off other passengers who did book well in advance, too.

by larry on Sep 27, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's the thing.

In some cases, major airlines have gone from one end of the spectrum to the other. Instead of allowing regular priced (or slightly discounted ones) fares last minute and filling those seats, they’ve decreased the amount of routes to some major destinations to make sure they are filled. Now there is a problem with overbooking, and people who paid less for those flights have a higher chance of being bumped.

Or in some cases (Like America West and US Air after they merged), they just stop offering services to some of the smaller airports. The airlines use a formula to figure out how many seats they need to sell to “break even” on a flight. The problem with it is that once the figure out the break even point, the cost of every fare after that skyrockets. They would rather have the 1 last minute business flyer pay $1200 than have 4 people buy at $300.

The problem with that is the $1200 guy doesn’t always show up, whereas the $300 folks most likely would.

Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?

by AirTrafficAJ on Sep 28, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dan Bernstein of 670 The Score just reported that his sources indicate the seeds have already been set for Ozzie to be traded to the Marlins. He reports that Ozzie and his wife were at the UC today to meet with Reinsdorf and its only a matter of time before his sources believe the announcement is made that Ozzie is headed (traded) to the Marlins. He went on to discuss his source referencing Don Cooper as a favorite of KW’s, and is likely to be retained.

by PaulyPinkShoes on Sep 26, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I concur – my sources have that there is a closed doors players only meeting and something is definitely happening tonight.

by Bmvance on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

815, you just got SERVED, son!!!!!!!

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 26, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If we’re lucky, Mark Teahan might be coming back in a three-way trade

by Bmvance on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

screw that

 I want New Orleans Zephyrs manager Greg Norton back in a Sox uniform as part of the return.

by e-gus on Sep 26, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they acquire Norton, then they gotta get Wimpy back, too.

It’s pointless otherwise.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Sep 26, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

true.

Stone to Cards for wimpy and a Pujols autograph.

by e-gus on Sep 26, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can he DH in Detroit?

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Sep 26, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

To elaborate!
“F—- more years, I want more money. Life is about money. People are happy when they make a lot of money.”

http://twitter.com/cst_Cowley/status/118441398390374400

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Sep 26, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought of Mos Def.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 26, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somewhat related

This song as well

LeBron James: Which of His Blessings would you deny?

by ProfessorEmmer on Sep 27, 2011 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

So that is why he didn't want to help a nation that has been a strong ally of ours

after they faced a massive earthquake which killed many, injured more and caused untold damage.

by 815Sox on Sep 26, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oz said he wouldn’t return with only one year left. “I might sound arrogant,” … Fears bad start similar to 2011 would put him in trouble
http://twitter.com/#!/MDGonzales

by Bmvance on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

FUCKING SHOCKING, THAT THE HIGHEST PAYROLL IN FRANCHISE HISTORY COUPLED WITH SHIT BASEBALL WOULD MAKE HIS SEAT HOT.

You fuckin’ twat bag, go away. Jim, you can fill out a God damned fucking line-up card right?

Or does anyone know what Cheat is up to? FOG

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 26, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember Howe in the movie wanting an extension while sabotaging the lineups?

Reminded me of Ozzie post AS break.

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Sep 26, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marlins manager McKeon says he is going to retire

link

that would be so great if they trade Ozzie and dont have to pay him to go away.

by e-gus on Sep 26, 2011 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Score Report:

Coop was talking on the White Sox pregame as if Mark will be back next year. Was talking about how in the offseason they have to figure out how they will improve. Stated that it has to “start at the top with Buehrle all the way down to the newest guy pitching tonight Dylan Axelrod”.

by 815Sox on Sep 26, 2011 6:49 PM CDT reply actions  

of course he's going to say that though, Coop isnt going to come out and say Mark isnt coming back

its Mark’s decision and in the end he is the only one who knows what best for him

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Sep 26, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

So when are you changing your name?

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 26, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to what?

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 26, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inquiring minds wish to know!

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Sep 26, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

CoopNChaz

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 26, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

DADT

Trying to score runs with Juan Pierre as your leadoff hitter is like trying to suture a wound in a moving car. You might still be successful -- but why make it so hard on yourself?

by Chiburb on Sep 26, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? Who forced Coop to mention it?

He didn’t have to mention him at all but he did. I get what you are trying to say though. I think that nobody knows what is going to happen with Buehrle.

by 815Sox on Sep 26, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

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