Sergio Santos signs multi-year deal
Sergio Santos agrees to terms on a three-year, $8.25-million contract with club options for 2015-17.
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Sergio provided more than $5 million in value to the #WhiteSox this season alone—$7.5 over the next 3 years projects as quite a bargain.
oh, god. is he crying again?
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Sep 30, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Belly laugh = mobile rec.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Sep 30, 2011 5:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hm. That's nearly identical to Joakim Soria's deal, which was $8.75 million over three years followed by three club options.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
remember how much scott linebrink used to make?
yeah. that was awesome.
by obnoxious american on Sep 30, 2011 4:01 PM CDT reply actions
Dotel was $11M over 2 years, too.
Fat Jenks at $7.5M, also. Yeah, we are good.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Sep 30, 2011 5:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Seems pretty fair, especially if he continues to improve in the Closer's role.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
oh snap, angel stadium's gonna be swimming in #46 shirseys next year.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
Specifics
The contract includes three guaranteed years (including his first two years of arbitration) and club options from 2015-2017. He’ll make $1 million next season, $2.75 million in 2013 and $3.75 million in 2014. Meanwhile, the team options include $6 million for 2015, $8 million for 2016 an $8.75 million for 2017. Santos, a former infielder, thrived after unexpectedly being thrust into the closer role earlier this season, posting a 3.55 ERA, 30 saves and a 92/29 K/BB ratio over 63 1/3 innings. Assuming the 28-year-old right-hander remains healthy, this could be a great deal for the White Sox.
(I got it from http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3440245&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9#post396059705
dunno where he got it from, I’m lazy.)
Great value in my book when you consider the ratio of guaranteed vs non-guaranteed.
This deal is NOTHING like the Linebrink deal.
Nice
What’s the going rate per WAR in FA these days? 5M? fWAR had him at 1.5 WAR this year, so even if he regresses, White Sox will be getting good value…
by southsideirish on Sep 30, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
also
avoid hardballdollars.com, i learned the hard way it now points to, how you say, NSFW content.
by southsideirish on Sep 30, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
fuck texas.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
I'm sorry. We dont' allow Rays fans here.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 30, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
we're here, we're rays fans.
get used to it.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Sep 30, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rays fans are against God and will bring down the institution of the American family.
Can you live with that?!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 30, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll allow it.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Sep 30, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Lots of alternative lifestyle in Tampa.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Sep 30, 2011 5:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lemon party!
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Sep 30, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Is this the game thread?
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 30, 2011 5:04 PM CDT reply actions
it is now.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
texas toast!
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
wait, i wasn't watching. i just looked at gameday. it says hamilton was out on a sacrifice bunt.
is that correct?
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
He was trying for a hit
but it was poorly executed. Love to see the guy with a .200+ ISO bunting down eight runs.
tanks.
maybe he’s not feeling comfortable against moore. or maybe he’s an imbecile. or maybe both.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Amazing that the Rays can do what they do
Of course, ESPN is sure to repeat this over and over and over. The fans don’t even deserve the team. My cousin that lives in St. Pete doesn’t want them to build a new stadium because “it will ruin the view”.
I agree 100%
The players and management deserve much better, I have a feeling they may move soon though. If the whitesox had a 91 win team, the cell would prob be sold out for every game. I also hate Rays fans that claim the reason they don’t show up to games is because the stadium sucks, since when did people start going to games to be in nice stadiums??
I heard going there takes three years off your life expectancy.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I'm just saying
that true fans go support the players. Think about how demoralizing for the players it must be to play well and see half the stadium empty for all their home games.
If the Sox played in a godawful dome like that, I would attend far less games in person.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
fewer.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Sep 30, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bollocks.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
you can stick it up your bollocks.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Even if they are a 90+ win team?
The thing is, there weren’t even 30,000 fans in attendance(less than 25,000 for the first two games) during that last series against the Yankees, with the chance to play in the PLAYOFFS. Even during that world series season in 2008, their attendance was shit.
http://progressiveboink.com/index.php?/archive/where-the-sun-dont-shine/
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
yeah, its in St. Pete, which is a long drive over a bridge from either Tampa or Clearwater
and you have to be wu’s age or older to live in St. Pete proper.
Throw in the fact that its the shittiest stadium since the astrodome and it all adds up.
Ha. My friends live in St. Pete.
Getting to the Trop is a breeze!
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by Jim Margalus on Sep 30, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
its a beautiful stadium. highly suggest the trip. nice city too.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Seconded. Friendly people.
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Highly underrated, Mark Kotsay became the best defensive designated hitter in American League history in 2010.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Oct 1, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Angels GM steps down
Here’s ESPN’s version of the story
Acquiring big contracts in Kazmir and Wells and not making the playoffs the last couple years did him in.
The Wells trade was just dreadful
Napoli had a hell of a season
i knew batting delmon young third
would pay off.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Has CC put on some lbs?
He’s looking a little more like me out there than I remember.
i understand one doesn't have to be in tip top condition to be a pitcher
but every time i see sabathia i am astounded by just how overweight he is.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Not the best start for Verlander.
I was hoping for something a little Matt Moore-esque
yeah, but they hardly hit the ball.
a dropped third strike and a couple of inconveniently placed ground balls really helped the yankees. cheating bastards.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
The Latest On Terry Francona - Coop likes him
As we learned last night and early this morning, the Red Sox and long-time manager Terry Francona are parting ways. Let’s round up the latest on both the man and the team…
White Sox pitching coach Don Cooper is pushing for Francona, reports Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com (on Twitter). Cooper recently received a contract extension despite Ozzie Guillen’s departure.
"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Sep 30, 2011 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
Yes, let's. You start.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Sep 30, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't let's start.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I really want this to happen
but if he is too expensive, I’d rather go with the Rays bench coach. Those are my top two choices by far
I told them they should have built a dome, but noooooo.
The policeman who jumps from a bridge to a plane is Detective John McClane, a.k.a. Bruce Willis. He’s just the star of the whole movie series and stuff, no big deal or anything. -Cruiser
cal ripken just said that derek jeter has carried the yankees to the best record in the AL east.
interesting perspective.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
also, hasn't anyone told dennis eckersley
that it’s time to change his hairstyle?
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Sep 30, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's the Bank of America perspective!
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Sep 30, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I know they are going to convert Sale to a starter next year, but has there been any discussion of doing the same with Santos?
He doesn’t have a lot of “miles” on his arm, and motion doesn’t look particularly destructive to the elbow or shoulder…is this crazy to even suggest, or will they consider it if perhaps Danks declines an extension and gets packaged with dead weight in a trade?
Thornton, Crain, and maybe Reed can hold down the pen, and Santos could bring a ton of value as a starter. The only reason I can think to avoid the conversion would be the whole “he’s still adjusting as a major league pitcher and petered off in the second half this year” argument, but wouldn’t it be worth the risk? He can always go back to the pen, and hopefully the new manager won’t care as much about the whole single closer title.
Thoughts?
"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."
THAT IS A MISQUOTE AND YOU KNOW IT
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
I thought I could either flush you out
or sneak it by in your absence…either way I was just kidding.
You inspired me to query Goldstein
Only if they got very very drunk first. RT @JRFegan: @Kevin_Goldstein Should WSox ever try to turn Santos in a SP?
He is not bullish
If they here drunk they would turns him back into a shortstop
if the were high they would make him a starter.
which one are you?
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Both
i should really proofread, christ. Ever since i started commenting on iphone my communication has been dumbed down due to laziness. Thumbitis
So in other words, Goldstein thinks Ozzie would have pushed for converting him eh?
Any good reason why the reaction would be so strong against the idea? It seems like a no-brainer to try…but obviously Goldstein thinks the inverse.
"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."
by Steve von Horn on Sep 30, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Vongrats Dickering is a downright menace
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
yeah let's start talking about it once he figures out "command"
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
But that's a good thing, right?
"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."
by Steve von Horn on Sep 30, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like an invitation to trouble
Granted, Alexi Ogando does exist, he’s been pitching a couple years more and had actually started a couple games in the minors.
Santos would be tripling his innings load from this year, when he flagged a bit toward the end. Pitching is hard. Guys who have spent their whole lives pitching have serious growing pains. Santos has only pitched for 3 years and never been asked to start.
No sense tempting fate. He’s demonstrated he can be an effective reliever. If there’s a rotation hole it would be better to just ask Coop to salvage a disposable veteran on a 1 year deal, than to role the dice and hope Santos can jump to advanced pitching overnight. Plus between Sale and Peavy, asking New Manager to be relatively careful with 2 starters is enough limitation for 1 year.
A quick question
I created an Illustration of Ozzie in that ridiculous Miami Marlins’ supposed uniform design, but the site won’t allow me to post it as a FanShot, for some reason. Would it be in bad taste if I were to post it here?
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400 width isn't that big a deal. 400 Height max is rule.
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Sep 30, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
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by sj10689 on Sep 30, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
"Ey no ah crook."
"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd
by South Side Expat on Sep 30, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Montana Marlins?
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.
by greenlight on Sep 30, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Adjusting the proportions
It comes out to 391 × 400 – almost 400 × 400.
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