White Sox 4, Twins 0: Zach Stewart is almost perfect
Francisco Liriano was on the verge of losing his spot in the rotation when he threw a no-hitter against the White Sox in May. So it was only fair that the White Sox return the favor with an unlikely no-hitter of their own.
Zach Stewart tried to one-up Liriano by carrying a perfect game into the eighth inning. Alas, Danny Valencia broke it up by reaching for an outside fastball and poking it to right field for a double, the only hit -- nay, baserunner -- the Twins mustered all night.
In the White Sox's second game of the day, Stewart had to settle for his first career shutout, which included a career-best nine strikeouts in a rather tidy 114-pitch package. Granted, this was just his eighth big-league start, so his first great start was going to set a lot of career highs, but in any event, good luck topping this one, kid.
Stewart only ran one three-ball count all night long, and that was in the fifth, when he started off Luke Hughes with three straight out of the zone. Hughes looked at strike one and two, then fouled off four straight pitches before swinging through a slider for strike three.
That illustrated a big difference in Stewart's approach -- he only started off 14 of 28 hitters with a strike, but he came back by throwing his slider in fastball counts, which is something he hadn't done much of before. Maybe the state of the Twins lineup gave him more confidence -- neither Michael Cuddyer nor Jason Kubel started, to go along with the 84 other regulars on the DL.
Great defense by the left side of the infield also helped. Brent Morel saved the perfect game bid by handling a couple of hot shots -- one to each side -- and popped up with strong throws across the diamond. Alexei Ramirez snagged a Joe Mauer screamer to end the seventh inning, and then recorded the assist on the final out by ranging to his left and spinning to throw in time to retire Ben Revere. Morel and Ramirez had been guilty of weaksauce throws over the past few games, but they had their rifles on display tonight.
The offense? Well, it did enough.
Scott Diamond didn't have Stewart's stuff, because the White Sox sized him up for line drive singles in the early going. Juan Pierre shot a single off the mound for the game's first run in the second, and Alexei Ramirez lined a single to left to make it a 2-0 game in the fifth. Diamond exited after that inning, but he left the game a survivor -- despite giving up eight hits and two walks over five innings, he held the Sox to a respectable two runs.
The Sox couldn't find a way to deliver a knockout blow until they had two outs and nobody on in the seventh. Ramirez and Alex Rios singled, Tyler Flowers walked to load the bases, and Morel broke the game open with a two-run single to center.
Throw in a mid-inning pitching change, and the Sox's late rally raised the issue that they might be icing Stewart. But Stewart quelled those questions by going three-up, three-down -- although Mauer didn't go down without a fight.
The White Sox ended up going 3-for-16 with runners in scoring position, stranding 13 runners in all. The Twins only stranded one runner. That's certainly a study in contrast, but it's pretty clear which one is preferable.
Notes:
*Alex Rios led the charge by going 3-for-5 with two runs scored and a stolen base. He's had five games with three hits or more, and three of them have come against the Twins.
Record: 70-69 | Box score | Play-by-play
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94 game score for Stewart. Tied for 2nd best outing of the MLB season.
I know there were circumstances tonight, but nonetheless that was awesome.
(didn’t want to lose that in game thread.)
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
We can't give the kid his night?
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
based on this one game
he is awesome.
i’m with MM. sure, a lot of people who don’t know much may blow this out of proportion but a lot of people who know at least a little bit can still think that was a pretty cool outing.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
I'm just happy the Sox have a 24 year-old pitcher capable of one-hitting a AAA team
Granted it wasn’t a good AAA team, but it’s not unreasonable to look at him as projecting as a mediocre back-end of the rotation starter if the Sox are lucky. Which means the Sox have on more potentially useful pitching prospect than I though they had.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 5, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Keith Law likes him
even as a #2-4 starter.
by Pumpkin McPastry on Sep 6, 2011 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
This. Always this.
And what’s wrong extrapolating a little good cheer?
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Sep 6, 2011 7:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
was law's ranking within the past year?
i think earlier rankings of stewart from various sources have declined a bit
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 6, 2011 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions
then he should consider giving stewart a third pitch
by larry on Sep 6, 2011 8:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the twins
have made a living out of running minimal talent pitchers in their 3,4,5 spots in the rotation who do nothing more then pound the strike zone, im not high on stewarts stuff at all, but if he can pound the strike zone he can be a 5th starter, for the three years where he will be making the minimum thats a big cost savings for a team that is going to be cash strapped this up and coming year and the one after… Same could be said about Humber as a 4th although he has proven a good amount more then Stewart.
i assume you're referring to minimally talented twins pitchers who had minor league BB/9 rates of
1.3, 2.2, 2.0, 1.8. that’s not zach stewart.
sox didnt have him in the minors though,
heres hoping for some coop magic, i view him as a 5th/6th starter but at the price he can add value on a 25 man roster
the twins didn't have him in the minors.
he’s a reliever. he provides value as a reliever, not a starter. find someone who can legitimately start for the role that requires someone to start.
he is just 24 right?
some room for improvement, I think on a good team your probably right he is a reliever but that means MB has to be back, Sale may have to move to the rotations and Peavy has to be healthy and Humber cant be a fluke, danks and floyd cant be traded… sox have lots of starting pitching options, but im not gonna count out a young guy who throws strikes and makes the minimum just yet…
Problem being...
all the other names in that conversation fit much better as starters than Stewart does. He only has two pitches and his stuff really seems to play better out of the pen. No one is saying he couldn’t be an emergency 6th guy if/when Peavy needs some DL time, but those other names should all be higher on the depth chart when it comes to starting.
completely agree with the depth chart
but, counting on peavys health is a bad thing, coop and ozzie love sale in the pen, mb could walk as a free agent, everyone likes the idea of trading floyd for some reason… humber could be a fluke…. and the sox have enjoyed this 6 man rotation thing so they may carry it over next year, it just seems anything could happen with this rotation and I dont want to peg a guy a reliever when he has a chance to be an affordable starter
It continues to amaze me that folks continue
with the doom and gloom scenarios for something the White Sox actually do well. The Sox are fine with pitching and options. And Larry is right there is absolutely zero reason to continue a 6 man rotation.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
No thanks to the six-man rotation.
Just lessens the innings of the better starters and gives them to a weaker starter. I’ll pass on that.
Yeah, everyone seems to love Sale in the pen, but with three potentially plus pitches, he has an excellent chance to be a very good starter. A lot of guys can be useful bullpen arms. There’s not nearly as many that can be rotation fixtures. Don’t waste a guy that could be a rotation cornerstone for the next however many years in the pen when there’s plenty of guys coming who can fill those innings.
And like I said above, I totally agree that Stewart would be a fine swing man to take a start when Peavy .
I totally on board
with a 5 man rotation, I even usually get pissed we carry a 12 man staff I would rather have a bat/defensive player off the bench, but the sox do what they do sometimes without logic.
In an ideal world sale moves to the rotation, we go with 5 ect ect… we will see
Don't get me wrong...
I follow your logic in that anything CAN happen. Especially if Ozzie and KW are still calling the shots. We shall see.
Agreed.
Unless he develops at least a show-me change, he’s a reliever. For the love of God, get Sale into the rotation next year and send Stewart to the pen.
if you want a cheap rotation
or as cheap as it’s probably reasonably going to get, buehrle, sale, humber, peavy and one of danks or floyd is it.
i don't think that's reasonable.
MB is back. fan favorite and, more importantly, a favorite of the chairman.
and most importantly
a favorite of buehrleman.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
and mostest importantly
still good at pitching.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 6, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
One of?
Isnt Danks the one we clearly want?
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
i think we will all be underwhelmed
other than front office moves.
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
i suppose that depends upon what your expectations are.
there’s going to be turnover, that’s for sure. how that ends up is certainly interesting to me.
i too find it interesting, but i think we all generally know what is going to happen
with only a few things that are up in the air
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
you should post what's going to happen
since i don’t have much idea. maybe you should write for the site.
While I am not counting on liking or agreeing with what's going to happen...
I’ll certainly be interested nonetheless.
I think its going to be one of the most interesting off seasons
in awhile. KW and or Ozzie will not be here.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
KW was so close to earning back some points with me...
If he would have just fired Walker the other week instead of backing down.
he did fire him.
jerry pulled him back
"The words "becorned can" just beminded my fuck." - SkanchoDanza
I don't think it was Cowley
Pretty sure it was Van Schouwen. Cowley isn’t the Sox beat writer anymore. Ozzie did confirm the spat though.
Not questioning the spat, no one seems to be refuting that.
The question is did KW really fire Walker and did Jerry really step in and say no?
fucking killjoy
go away.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I'd still prefer this to having to read "we got nothing of value in the Jackson trade!" comments
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Yeahbut, Liriano's no-hitter is tainted by the lack of Charlotte hitters in Chicago.
So. There.
Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?
by SkanchoDanza on Sep 6, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I tuned in during the 6th and tuned out after he blew it,
as De Aza watched a single turn into a double.
After all, Hillbilly Hand Fishin’ was on and I didn’t want to miss it.
"Alex is our best option right now." - Ozzie Guillen answering the media regarding Alex Rios continually batting clean-up (8/31/11)
you're really going to get on de aza for that?
as i watched that play i figured that de aza, when the ball was hit, knew he had to take any possible chance to catch the ball because, you know, stewart was pitching a perfect game. when he realized that there was no possible way he could catch the ball he also realized he was not in a position to hold valencia to a single. i imagine he felt bad about not being able to catch it. but that’s just me.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
Eh, I'm just feeling a little cranky.
The whole “Wow, they really are suckish and the season is over” thing is starting to set in…sigh.
"Alex is our best option right now." - Ozzie Guillen answering the media regarding Alex Rios continually batting clean-up (8/31/11)
we're all cranky.
well, maybe everyone but happyhuman, but i’m cranky enough for both myself and her.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
steve stone was just on the score.
he ridiculed pierzynski for having two fewer rbi than juan pierre. i guess he doesn’t care that pierre has almost 200 more plate appearances than pierzynski or that pierre has batted 40 more times with runners on base or 20 more times with runners in scoring position.
aj’s splits: bases empty — .269/.303/.381. with runners on base — .321/.365/.438.
thanks stoney.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Sep 6, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Nice post
was listening to the same thing, thought those numbers were a bit cherry picked, im not gonna say AJ is the master of driving in runs he could certainly do more of that, but the pierre comparison was amazingly unfair
stone really gets on my nerves sometimes and this is a perfect example of why.
it’s not enough that he states something unfairly like this, it’s his tone. to me he comes off as a smarmy know it all. i don’t like it.
and if my memory is correct this “information” he stated had nothing to do with the question. i believe it was the last caller of the segment and he asked three questions. the first was if ozzie would be back. i don’t remember the second question, and the third was if aj could be a player manager. as silly as i found that last question i don’t understand why stone took this opportunity to deride aj. irritating.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
His first smarmy response to the player/manager question was something like,
“AJ has to be a player first.”
Then, he had Tyler Flowers’ catching record handy. If the Sox had any other plan for 2013, I’d trade high on Flowers now and ride AJ for one more year. (May the rapture released from Donny Lucy’s eternal cauldron spare my spork-tongued soul.)
Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?
by SkanchoDanza on Sep 6, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
we always seem to forget, and those in the ticket/marketing department aren't afraid to remind us, that pierre is a fan favorite
White Sox 2011: The season of extraneous body parts.
Yeah be he also pointed out that the staff was more than fine with Flowers
Look Stoney is not a rocket scientist with numbers but I do at least give him credit for not towing a company line and expressing his opinion.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Moneyball has ruined this game
Goddamn Billy Beane and his “numbers” and “education”
by notoneyguillen on Sep 6, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Darrin Jackson tried to discuss the merits of Moneyball during last night's broadcast
After first acknowledging that he hadn’t read the book and then, unsurprisingly, demonstrating that he didn’t know what he was talking about.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
yeah, i heard some of that.
it was just as confusing as his play-by-play is.
thanks dj!
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
I wish the Sox had a family mantra similar to the Kennedy's
DJ would have been lobotomized and sent to live in Wisconsin a long time ago
by notoneyguillen on Sep 6, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Hawk and Stoney bring it up all the time
It’s hilarious because they clearly don’t know what they are talking about
by notoneyguillen on Sep 6, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
i really wish these guys wouldn't complain about a book they've never read.
it’s an unfortunate reminder of how much further baseball has to go.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
brad pitt was a terrible GM.
what kind of assclown hires truman capote to manage a baseball team?
by larry on Sep 6, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
they shoulda had the fat guy hire mclovin.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
You couldn't tell?
I could have sworn Weeks was adopted by Angelena…
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 6, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
i saw a book by baseballer Billy Bean and thought it was Billy Beane for like 5 minutes
I was like, Beane is gay?
"Going the Other Way"
I see what he did there
by notoneyguillen on Sep 6, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
oh dear lord no
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
Addison Reed, RHP, White Sox
The following conversation took place between me and a scout in the stands of a Beloit Snappers game in April of this year:
Scout: So I saw Kannopolis . . .
Me: Not much there.
Scout: What do you know about this Reed guy?
Me: Addison? 2010 draft pick, power arm, they put him in the bullpen for some reason.
Scout: He could pitch in the big leagues this year.
Me: [Stunned silence].
I shouldn’t be surprised that the scout was right as he’s made a series of pretty remarkable calls in the time I’ve known him, and Reed turned into the best prospect in a weak White Sox system by pitching at all four levels and making his major league debut over the weekend. His fastball and breaking ball are both plus-plus offering, and his season in the minors is hard to appreciate until you add all four lines up and get a 1.26 ERA with 111 strikeouts in 78 1/3 innings with just 14 walks and 43 hits allowed. He has closer potential and will allow Chicago to move Chris Sale back into the rotation where he belongs.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14933
I'm sure Oakland will enjoy his services
I shant be misled a second time
by Nordhagen on Sep 6, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Between Reed, Stewart, Infante, etc. and holdovers like Santos, Thornton, Crain and even Ohman...
There should be plenty of bullpen firepower there to be able to move Sale to the rotation.
True.
But Thornton’s contract isn’t stratospherically bad like Dunn or Rios. While he’s not the trade chip some were making him out to be at the deadline, he’s still a very effective reliever (especially when taking into account his horrible luck this season with BABIP and strand rate). I could see teams being interested if he was put on the market.
yeah matt thornton is good at baseball
Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk
I did and I normally do
I thought we were maintaining it in spreadsheet form for posterity. Maybe its leftover from the last regime. NBD
I shant be misled a second time
Look, 2011 WSB. I already broke up with you this year.
Sending me almost-perfect-game-arranged flowers isn’t going to make me take you back. You and I both know it’s over, and you’re not making this easier on either of us. I’m changing my address and number. I’m sorry, but maybe if you weren’t too busy flirting with .500, this never would’ve happened.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 6, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Things I want to see between now and the end of the season
1 )As many at bats for DeAza and Flowers as humanely possible
2) Humber with as many starts as possible.
3) Addison Reed. A whole bunch.
4)Viciedo in the OF. Like all the time.
5) Morel to swing for the fences.
6) Greg Walker kidnapped
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
i suppose humanely works there.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Give off his jock
Walker blows. Its like having Buddy Ryan except he’s definitely not funny and to me doesn’t do his job anywhere on that level. If the chairman really did step in to keep Greg that’s ridiculous.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
he's a good man. and he had a sweet swing. screw these losers that can't adapt to his wonderful methods.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Q and Viciedo in the corners would provide some nice thunder.
And probably some ghastly outfield range.
Anyone else think it’s possible to come back with all of these offensive pieces in tact next season? Rotate Q, Viciedo, Rios, De Aza, Dunn, Konerko between the outfield spots, first base and DH maybe.
If you're right, Q really looks like the odd man out in that group.
Not really seeing anyone else getting a ticket out of town. God help us if they are dumb enough to bring Pierre back.

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