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An early look at hitters the White Sox might draft this summer

It's not exactly a secret that the White Sox have the worst farm system in baseball. John Sickels recently said that very thing. What piqued my interest was a combination of a conversation I had with Colin and this line from the esteemed Mr. Sickels.*

Hitting is a disaster. I like Tyler Saladino but I have huge doubts about their other hitting prospects.

Colin brought up the excellent point that the washout rate for pitchers in the White Sox farm system seems to be much lower than that of other teams, but for whatever reason we can't develop hitters. With that in mind, I would be thrilled if the White Sox focused more heavily on hitting this June. Since the team hasn't used their first pick on a high school player since local product Kris Honel back in 2001, it seems reasonable to expect them to draft from the college ranks yet again. That lets me use this fantastic list that Matt Garrioch put together. Since the Sox have the 13th pick, there is little to no chance that Deven Marrero or Michael Zunino will be playing on the South Side any time soon. So since we miss out on the current top two hitters (and do keep in mind this is very early and things are bound to change), here are a few players I would be excited to hear have their name called on my birthday.

Star-divide

Victor Roache: Roache is my number once choice. The outfielder from Georgia Southern led all NCAA players in homeruns last season with 30, even with the new bat policy being introduced. He projects as a right fielder with average to slightly above average defensive tools. His main draw is easily his bat. Look at this ridiculous bat speed.

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Terrifying! Thanks to the large amount of first round high school talent available this year, Roache could fall to the 13th pick. The dropoff in college hitting talent after Roache is fairly substantial.

Adam Bret Walker: The junior outfielder for Jacksonville University hails from Milwaukee. While he lacks Roache's power potential, he's by no means a slap-hitter. Walker has hit 29 homeruns over the past two seasons while posting a 1.110 OPS. He's thrown in 21 steals over that same period, but it's hard to get too excited about that low of a total (Gordon Beckham stole 17 his last year at Georgia).

Stephen Piscotty: Standford's third baseman is a much different hitter than Roache or Walker. Piscotty strikes out less while hitting for a higher average. He doesn't profile to have much more than gap power though, with a 15 homerun ceiling seeming likely. The early reports on his defense have been good. Piscotty should still be around by the time the Mark Buehrle compensation pick kicks in.

If Roache is gone, my interest in the pick wains rather heavily.

*I have a hard time not being a stalker every time I go to Lawrence. The main thing stopping me is that I don't have enough questions to ask the man to make it worth his time.

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Liar.

OK, I’ve exhausted this meme.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Once I was good with memes

but now I’m good once. But it was breathtaking, thanks.

You Parisians are great with the meme.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It slowed down.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

i still dont see the bat from connection to when its pointing to left field

and its not because his body is in the way. mercy

"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112

by BoeJouma on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow. Most impressive.

To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 25, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks U-G.

I don’t follow college baseball much at all, so this is interesting info. Something like this closer to draft time would be cool to read.

by polodude017 on Jan 25, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

Position Players

Two other players for the 13th pick are David Dahl OF and Stryker Trahan C
Both High Schoolers.
Sandwich pick Tyler Naquin OF,Keon Barnum 1st Base,Cory Seager and Kenny Diekroger both SS-Inf.
the best talent in this draft is coming out of High School.That being said our 2nd round pick should have some talent remaining from the top 30 College players in the Draft.
Please no Josh Phegley types.

by Lil Jimmy on Jan 25, 2012 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe that is because they have been consistently thinking they could compete year after year for the last decade plus.

Maybe they can recognize now that it is okay to draft high school players, particularly position players.

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 25, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Where are the fish

You fish where the fish are.The College pool is very shallow.Best player is what they need to take.I agree that they prefer college players.Look where it has gotten them.Check these two kids out,they have a ton of talent.

by Lil Jimmy on Jan 25, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I read somewhere that historically, hitters from High Schools make it with less frequency to the majors

with the exception of pitchers where the gap is closer between college and HS systems….but don’t quote me on that. Haven’t read too much about that.

For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.

by JofpGallagher on Jan 26, 2012 6:10 AM CST up reply actions  

High school pitchers are the least likely of the four categories.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 26, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I have read that Piscotty's defense is sub-par, I do not remember where

I submit Bo Cuthbertson from Southern Utah University, if we could sneak him in, in the 2nd Rd…..
http://www.collegebaseballdaily.com/2012/01/14/top-100-countdown-15th-bo-cuthbertson-southern-utah/

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Kind of a long post...

just to tell us when your birthday is.

by palehose67 on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

Gordon Beckham debuted on my 21st.

I remember drunk texting El Diablo for confirmation that I wasn’t imagining the scroll at the bottom of CSN.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

as long as you didn't sext him.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 25, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

and he posted this on my birthday

That is a monster swing. I love it!

Well, boys, it's a round ball and a round bat and you got to hit the ball square. ~Joe Schultz, 1969

by zevsenesca on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

It is exactly a week after my 1/12th birthday

The synchronicity of all this astonishes me.

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

today is robert burns birthday.

my country’s national bard.
this is uncanny!

by craigws on Jan 25, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

my math may be wrong, but i think we may share a birthday.

i’ll have DMX put you on the guest list for next year’s party.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 25, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

bocce balls!

I dig that. Best throwback they could have chosen.

Dave Martinez woulda had that.

by Nordhagen on Jan 25, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

that's gonna be sweet.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 25, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Al Yellon knows not of Bill Melton

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/25/2733130/white-sox-throwbacks-and-a-quiz

I’m guessing he also hasn’t heard of Ted Lyons, Art Evans, Phil Gallivan, Jack Rothrock, Frank Grube, Bob Boken, Red Kress, Luke Sewell, Vallie Eaves, Ken Silvestri, George Dickey, Vince Castino, Joe Kuhel, Jerry Scala, Marino Pieretti, Ed McGhee, Joe DeMaestri, Sam Mele, Saul Rogovin, Carl Sawatski, Larry Doby, Sammy Esposito, Tommy McCraw, Bill Skowron, Ken Boyer, Cleon Jones, Hugh Yancy, Tony Bernazard, Casey Parsons, Russ Morman, Fred Manrique, Craig Grebeck, Julio Franco, or Dave Martinez, who all wore 14 for the Sox.

by mechanical turk on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

including gender roles!

zing!

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 25, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

83 will be next year, 30 year anniversary

this is the 40 year for the red pinstripes

09 was for ’59, etc.

by e-gus on Jan 25, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

thats freaking swell.

having a shitty team leads to better promotions and open toilets. i can live with it.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 25, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I think they did 83 in 08, too

for 25 years. i still have the car flags from opening day.

by e-gus on Jan 25, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

they wore them for when harold got his uni retired.

but not EVERY sunday. this is going to be fucking awesome.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 25, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

WSB: Appreciate the open toilets.

The lords of dawn are men such as Mr. Lucy.

by Uribe Down on Jan 25, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

wait, what thread am I on?

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 25, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

We also need to bring back Dick Allen.

I am going to have an all-day hardon every Sunday. Just like church.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Jan 25, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely.

But maybe minus the hard on?

So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.

by colintj on Jan 25, 2012 10:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Too soon?

I hate Jerry Sandusky. Even self-effacing molestation jokes are verboten now.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I cannot wait to see this, as those are among my favorite retro uniforms

Especially if we play the Red Sox on one of the days

We play on the "bad" side of town, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.

by ChiSoxRox on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Guys from next years draft class I'd be stoked to see the Sox get

college pitchers
Mark Appel – SP Stanford
Chris Beck – SP Georgia Southern
Michael Wacha – SP Texas A&M

college position players
Victor Roache

high school pitchers
Max Fried
Lucas Giolito

high school bats
Trey Williams 3B
Bryan Buxton OF
Carlos Correa SS

as little jimmy said, you fish where the fish are. this years draft is seemingly loaded with high school talent. If the Sox limit themselves to college players this time through it will be detrimental.

by e-gus on Jan 25, 2012 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah.

But writing them one category at a time gives me four posts to work with.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 25, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Lots of talent here

To bad half these guy will be gone by 13.Still 3 or 4 should still be there.Anyone of them would be great.

by Lil Jimmy on Jan 25, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed

Still early, but not very likely Appel, Gioloito, Correa, or Buxton will be there.

by DirtySox on Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

those were just my back of the napkin guys I wrote down for a fantasy league

when I was trying to nail down my top 10.

Appel will be gone for sure but as for the rest, you never know- Sale fell to them.

by e-gus on Jan 25, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

True enough.

Still quite early too. I’d love Zunino myself, but that would likely take a miracle. Intrigued by Roache, Trey Williams, Chris Beck, Max Fried, Walker Weickel, and Stryker Trahan myself. The safe bet per usual with the organization is the college player though, which at times can be quite unfortunate.

by DirtySox on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

In an ideal world, I'd want Zunino or Marrero.

Wouldn’t be upset with any of the names you listed.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 26, 2012 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Trahan

Love this guy.Great arm,great speed,throws right,bats left.Glowing reviews,short quick swig.Even if he has to move from catcher he can still play third.Historiclly the White Sox are too right handed and a left handed bat at either of these positions is a plus.With a name like Styker he has to be good.

by Lil Jimmy on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I found that one when researching.

And then they have Roache going with the next pick. If Vic is on the board, I want him.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 26, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

it's better than poached.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

This site lists Christian Walker (SC) as the #1 1B prospect

http://mlbdraftguide.com/1/2011/12/06/top-20-first-basemen-for-the-2012-mlb-draft/

In 2011 he hit .359/.438/.560 SLG and some believe that he has the arm and build to play 3B (which he played in HS) as well.

Naturally I’d like to see the Sox draft him.

by Shoeless In SC on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 PM CST reply actions  

I almost included him just for you.

Maybe with the comp pick, but no way with the 13th.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 26, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

what about Bo Cuthbertson

Rhubarb’s savior?

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

If he can repeat that breakout year, I would be fine with it.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 26, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

eat your heart out Cespedes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8RvHUvRmrE

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

his box jump is higher than Cespedes

Bo’s is 52" and Yoenis is 45", 415 lb squat…Cespedes was 510 but he used a fucking ball to bounce back up.

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh shit!

Switchfoot! It’s like I’m in high school again!

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

how dare you compare that dirt bag to cespedes.

christ sakes i could have done those defensive drills he was doing. cespedes was hitting them 500 feet!

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

I was just trolling you for kicks but this guy could be a nice ball player. I am not saying he is first round talent but a switch hitting shortstop, with ++ speed and a .688 SLG (albeit in a weak conference) sounds good. Reminds me of Pedroia a bit, Pedroia didn’t have the power he has now, in college.

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Jan 26, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Draft

In this year’s draft I think the Sox should draft David Dahl with the 13th pick and Keon Barnum with their sandwhich pick. Dahl fits the prototypcial Kenny Williams pick, he’s a freak athlete with good physical attributes, but unlike the others Dahl is an actual baseball player. He reminds me of Ellsbury, Sizemore and Tim Raines, he has average power and could hit 15HR in the majors. The Sox are in desperate need of a dynamic lead off hitter, although I think he looks better batting 2.

On Barnum:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=561QLCrgYNk
I reminds me of Adrian Gonzalez, and hit can for power and average. Konerko wont play forever, and he can be the future of the franchise.

by JoshuaStrong on Jan 30, 2012 2:30 AM CST reply actions  

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