About the Cubs playing at U.S. Cellular Field in 2013
by U-God on Feb 15, 2012 12:00 PM CST
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By now most of you have heard the rumblings that the Chicago Cubs may be calling U.S. Cellular Field home during the 2013 season. If the Cubs want to renovate Wrigley Field and make the necessary repairs to bring the stadium into the mid-20th century, they're going to need to shut the place down for at least a season. Which leads to an interesting dilemma. Where will they play?
The fans who honestly think it's feasible for the Cubs to play in Milwaukee are lying to themselves. That's far too much of a headache for the schedulers and not entirely realistic for the fanbase. Even more humorous is the "Let's play our games at Fifth Third Ballpark (home of the Kane County Cougars)" contingent. Do you know how many seats there are? 14,000! That's a lot of money that the team would lose playing in such a tiny stadium. There is only one realistic option for the Ricketts if they finally decide to stop trying to "fix" every problem with duct tape and actually update their shrine to mediocrity: become temporary tenants of our Chicago White Sox.
"Could the field handle the strain of both teams playing there all season?" the uninformed and foolish may ask. There is a reason we gave our groundskeeper his own bobblehead day. He's the best at what he does.
Swag as it gets.
Over 25% of the fields currently used in MLB's playing surfaces were designed by Roger Bossard. He's the Don Cooper of dirt. If any field could support 162 games of usage, it's U.S. Cellular Field.
Obviously there are going to be sects in both fanbases that don't like the idea. "But I'll get shot in Bridgeport! But they don't have streets full of bars to get hammered at!" To the morons who think Bridgeport is dangerous, it really isn't. The stadium is not in the middle of some gang war stricken slum. It's next to the highway, a church, and a high school. And while it may not have the yuppie bars surrounding the neighborhood, it does have some much better things. Like parking lots, bathrooms not designed before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier, diverse food and beer selections, seats that don't come with the view of a steel beam. You won't have to park in someone's driveway and pay them $50 for the privilege. You won't have to pee in something originally meant for horses to eat out of. Don't like Miller Lite? That's cool, we have over a dozen different choices along with margaritas and a bar built under the right field stands. An entire bar! It's amazing what modern construction can accomplish!
"That's fine and dandy for them, U-God, but what about us fans who will have to deal with those insufferable jerks in our territory all summer?" you say. Well, yeah. That's kind of going to blow. But you know what won't suck? Cubs fans helping to pay for Adam Dunn and Alex Rios' contracts. You know Jerry Reinsdorf isn't just going to let another team play in his yard for free. Think of all the extra scratch the franchise would get. Think of the fact that all thirty teams would play on our home turf in the same year! I'm all for it and you should be too.
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yes!
get the cubs to help out the bottom line.
and imagine how much it will irritate cub fans who have been dissing the Cell to have to go to it for a season!
but bridgeport beware— some folks don’t know where to pee if it’s not in somebody’s yard.
im on the phone with mark parent right now... he's doing a conference call for season ticket holders i believe.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Yup.
Him and Brooks Boyer.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
i cant even ask a question because my douche bag children are acting like tools!
mr mom isn’t a glamorous job…..
andddd i just got cut off. that was a bust.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I decided to pass overall on it.
Didn’t seem worth the effort.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
The douchebag kids or the call?
We're all here because we're not all there.
by winningugly on Feb 15, 2012 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
Heh. thats all i would have needed... gene honda to go to my question and i have my daughter screaming in the background for a cupcake.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
I doubt anyone is surprised here
but I’m totally for spanking.
by Shoeless In SC on Feb 15, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
im not against it but it wouldn't have solved the problem at the time.
a kid crying for a cupcake is the same as a kid crying because of a spanking.
i have to be honest though… i am much more likely to spank my son than my daughter.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
i'm pretty lenient. it takes a lot to get me to do that to either of them.
i’ll just pull the trigger quicker on the boy than i will the girl. plus shes only 2. he’s 4.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
you selfish SOB
Give the starving child a cupcake fer chrissakes! :)
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 15, 2012 5:42 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
the science isn't.
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
Please make like Hoodlight and take all discussions of spanking to the RRRR.
"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."
http://www.southsidesox.com/2012/2/10/2789798/rrrr-counting-of-the-heads-meet-up-2012#92013667
So fast he could hit a ball up the middle and it would hit him in the ass sliding into second.
The kid was crying for her vinegar and water.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
But what would they do if both teams make the playoffs?
On a more serious note, the Cubs playing on the South Side could be great for a lot of local businesses, and if the Cell is the only baseball destination in town you might even find that a lot of fans enjoy the experience and return in subsequent years.
I wonder how they’d work the BP Crosstown Cup series? When the Sox were the away team at their own home, would they use the visitor’s clubhouse? In fact, for the rest of the year, everyone would have a lot of stuff that had to be somewhere- it would pretty much call for two home clubhouses. A lot of details to be worked out, I suppose. The players themselves probably wouldn’t be in favor of sharing a home, but the extra cash it would bring in for the team would really help to speed up this rebuilding effort.
by mechanical turk on Feb 15, 2012 12:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think the odds of both teams reaching the playoffs next year are slim.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
On second thought, maybe I should have gone with the "What if they both make the World Series?" line after all.
by mechanical turk on Feb 15, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Worse yet, what if the Cubs make it to the World Series while playing at US Cellular Field?!
The horrors, the horrors!!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 15, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Actually it would be hilarious if they won it while playing at USCF, because then there would still be zero WS wins at Wrigley.
by NWRick on Feb 15, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
As the joke goes: The Cubs haven't won the World Series since they moved into their new stadium
True fact: the Cubs have already played their World Series home games in the Sox’s Comiskey Park, in 1918 when they lost the Series to the Red Sox. The Cubs moved their Series games into Comiskey because, at the time, Comiskey had a much greater seating capacity.
Baseball is life.
yeah and then everyone will blame Wrigley for being the curse and then they blow it up
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 19, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
thats what i was thinking
and then i thought just park a couple FEMA trailers out back for the Cubs where they blow off the fireworks.
speaking of that, no fireworks for Cubs HR.
Air Force Academy High School, for the record.
Nice job, U.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 15, 2012 12:27 PM CST reply actions
There is an Air Force high school? Do they let you fly jets?
Do they accept 30 year olds?
@gpierce112
Only if you go with Jonah Hill.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 15, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Only if you got nowhere else to go
by dr. lingerie on Feb 15, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Jesus, this is so fantastic.
I quote that line quite often, with feeling.
We're all here because we're not all there.
Al Yellon has already said this isn't happening.
So, what, about 75% likely that it will happen now?
by South Side Expat on Feb 15, 2012 12:27 PM CST reply actions
At least he takes the right position on the issue.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Feb 15, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
He must be forgetting how unsafe it is at the Cell.
"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."
what a bunch of fools
Half of their comments rip on Sox fans for hating the Cubs more than liking the White Sox. The other half say how much they hate the White Sox and their fans. Yeah hypocrisy!
But wait.
Would the Cubs pay the White Sox or Illinois Sports Facilities Authority who own the park?
And I agree that The Sodfather is the best in the business. But just because his park would be the most likely to handle two teams, doesn’t mean it actually will. Plus there is the matter of how Cubs fans would conduct themselves at our park when we’re not there. I really hate this idea.
Who cares how they conduct themselves?
What are they going to do? Set the Harold statue on fire? Pee in the outfield shower?
@gpierce112
That second one seems like an inevitability, actually. And while bronze is probably hard to set ablaze, I’m sure a creative drunk could get creative with other forms of desecration.
Contrary to what Al may believe, the ballpark does have security.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I had the same thought
Reinsdorf doesn’t own the stadium. Granted he was able to make a ridiculously one sided lease in his favor, I am unsure who the majority of the money would actually go to. They would probably be able to get something though.
by MelidoPerez on Feb 15, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Per Wikipedia, The Sox have "exclusive control" of the park
I assume that gives Jerry the leverage to negotiate a payoff
@gpierce112
reinsdorf owns the lease.
within the constraints of the lease, he gets whatever revenue it produces. including from events other than white sox games. i’m not sure why people think it matters who owns the stadium.
probably because
Most people are better versed on their baseball team than the lease terms their team has with the organization that built it. Bunch of ignorant know nothing idiots.
by MelidoPerez on Feb 15, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
isn't this one sort of intuitive.
i imagine most people on here have rented before. if you’ve got an apartment, the landlord isn’t going to be able to put someone else in there with you and have them pay him. toyota isn’t going to send someone to your house to use your car for the day.
Considering the fucked up situation at Soldier Field with high school games and concerts and bake sales and whatever the fuck else destroying the turf before Bears games,
it seemed reasonable to me to be curious about the Sox arrangement.
"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."
soldier field is in the park district though, right?
makes sense there’d be some sort of arrangement there.
It's owned by the park district, yes.
But The Cell is owned by a government agency as well.
by South Side Expat on Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
The ISFA basically just built the place and gave JR the keys.
As larry alluded to, they can’t do anything there — concerts, Marlins-Expos games, Joel Osteen’s giant teeth convention — without their tenant’s consent. Their tenant that pays nominal rent and owns the rights to basically all the revenues from the park and everything in and around it. Pursuant to a lease that runs through 2029. The funniest thing I’ve read on it was Jim Thompson — who is largely responsible for his buddy Jerry’s sweetheart deal — saying last year that when they built Bacardi at the Park with mostly state funds, they asked Jerry if they could have some of the profits. To which JR, well within his rights, simply responded “No.”
The Bears I think pay about four times what the Sox do in rent, and obviously the Park District can do whatever it wants. Nowhere near the deal Resindorf’s got.
by dr. lingerie on Feb 15, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Which raises the question, why aren't there more events at the Cell?
If renting the place out for a Dave Mathews Band concert give Jerry the revenue to sign better free agents, I say let the frat boys dance
@gpierce112
Are you telling me you don't Appreciate the Game™?
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by Uribe Down on Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That's kind of what I was thinking
Reinsdorf’s lopsided arrangement isn’t exactly standard lease 101. It’s of course great for the team to pay so little and do whatever they want, but this sort of arrangement would seem to be the exception and not the rule.
for sports teams, it actually is more standard lease 101.
it’s a fair point that the fucked up soldier field situation the bears have themselves in might confuse the issue for some. though i would note the bears, like most football teams, use their stadium about eleven times per year. and they certainly still maintain exclusivity for pro football events (for whatever that’s worth to them), which is perhaps more the analogous point here.
my guess is the cubs will do a series of remodeling like the sox did.
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The Sox could pull that off because the stadium didn't need it.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
i think the cubs should play in milwaukee or kane county. i can't think of any reason why they wouldn't.
anyone know how many people kane county’s stadium holds? and what is it called?
also, would the field at us cellular be able to handle twice the normal number of games? might be a lot of extra work for the groundskeeper. do the sox have a good one? what’s his name?
i’ve also heard that the white sox stadium is located in a pretty dangerous area and that there are not a lot of business establishments of the type that ballpark goers would typically frequent. sounds like it wouldn’t work too well.
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by BuehrleMan on Feb 15, 2012 12:45 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
whoosh
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
by Rhubarb on Feb 15, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
this
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
by usualsuspect on Feb 15, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'm for it...makes sense...but it's probably too logical a move for the Cubs and their fans
Topic was discussed on Chicago Tribune Live last night. David Kaplan, a bleed Cubbie blue fan if there ever was one, contradicted himself within seconds by saying both “I love Wrigley!” and “It’s a dump!”. Cubbiedom is not know for logical thinking.
I’d bet on the piecemeal approach to Wrigley renovation happening instead. It’s what the Red Sox did with Fenway, after all, and the Red Sox are the Cubs’ model franchise.
Baseball is life.
by elgonzo4sox on Feb 15, 2012 12:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Theo.
Yes.
We're all here because we're not all there.
by winningugly on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think it's perfectly logical to think of Wrigley that way.
Wrigley is fun, people get drunk there, it’s in a cool neighborhood, there’s a lot of history,etc. etc. etc.
However, it is also a shitty stadium with no nice amenities.
It's probably not going to happen but I would have enjoyed another month or so of Cubs fans saying they'd rather see the team suck
Than win a World Series in the Cell.
I wouldn't trade Maria's for all the bars on Clark Street
by moroots on Feb 15, 2012 1:04 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Absolutely
All things considered I’d prefer to have the Sox cash in by hosting the Cubs, even though Bridgeport’s on my short list of neighborhoods to move to in the next few months, and I’m not keen to have it overrun with Cub fans.
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Get a few blocks away from Wrigley and it's not so bad
The immediate area within a block or two (or “Disneyland For Douchebags” as a Cubs fan I know refers to the area) is almost entirely terrible. I wouldn’t trade Mitchell’s (with its back patio, some decent beer, and cheap-ish PBR pitchers) for those, let alone Maria’s. Maria’s and a meat pie from Pleasant House is Frank Thomas 1994-level good.
by Yinka Double Dare on Feb 15, 2012 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They should start with the owners box.
"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."
by RWShow on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
The Dodgers when they first moved to LA.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
The dimensions were a hoot
250 down the left field line (with a 60 foot screen at the of the fence), 425 to center, 440 in right center.
I really like the idea of seeing all 30 teams at the Cell
but fuck me, that’s a lot of Cubs games I’d have to go to.
when I was young I went to see Willy Mays and Henry Aaron one day and Mickey Mantle and Yogi Berra the next Chicago was and is a fan's paradise
by Palehose pal on Feb 15, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
fuck, you're old.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Feb 15, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Maybe they can play at the Olympic Stadium if it's inflated in time
“What do you mean ‘what are you talking about,’ 2016 is only three years away by then, it has to be built”
“They did what?”
“The first—the first round, really? Wow, I guess Tokyo made a hell of a presentation”
“Oh, it was Madrid?”
“WHAT”
That's what I was wondering
Would the Cubs go by Sox ticket pricing or would they try to match their own pricing to the Cell’s seating?
Let's go Hawks! Detroit sucks!
perhaps they can design the "improved" Wrigley as the space urinal to match the space toilet that is Soldier Field
White Sox 2012: Helplessly rebuilding?
Won't you think about the space ladies?
They gotta pee too.
Well, boys, it's a round ball and a round bat and you got to hit the ball square. ~Joe Schultz, 1969
From the Fox refutation
When major renovations do take place, they will be carried out in the off season.
I’m assuming that’s paraphrasing the Cub spokesman who’s shooting down the rumor. Not that you’d expect a shill to offer a full and logical response but in essence this seems exactly why the Cubs almost certainly would have to move out of Wrigley. You can’t rebuild a baseball stadium in seven months, especially when about six of them are Chicago winter. It’s silly to put too much thought into what this guy is saying but to completely scuttle the issue is needlessly evasive.
renovate, not rebuild.
the red sox did it over quite a few offseasons. us cellular field has had major renovations done over offseasons. this is the 21st century. a little cold isn’t going to stop construction.
I think Wrigley (like Fenway) could be renovated using the piecemeal approach, but not rebuilt...
…if “rebuilt” means the “foul pole to foul pole” rebuild that would redo the seating bowl and the grandstand.
By this definition Fenway was never rebuilt – it was renovated. Still has the same seating bowl, with the same cramped seats (too narrow and too close to the row ahead, by modern-day standards) and narrow aisles and poles blocking the view. At Fenway they basically added luxury seating where they could (the roof, the monster seats) and removed the first base side outer wall of the stadium to create more space in part of the concourse, more amenities, and a street fair atmosphere.
To tear down the entire Wrigley grandstand and seating bowl and replace them probably takes more than a single winter.
Baseball is life.
they can't rebuild it because they can't tear it down.
it has landmark status from the city. the ricketts have been quite clear that they don’t intend to seek for that to be changed – the two plans they’ve put forward in the past didn’t involve anything particularly radical. they also know that they aren’t likely to get landmark status changed. it would open the pandora’s box for other owners of landmarks. it also would remind people of the mccarthy building/block 37 catastrophe, as well as soldier field being stripped of its national landmark status after its “renovations”. the soldier field fuck up was one of the reasons wrigley was designated a landmark by the city.
So Cubs fans are doomed forever to sit in cramped seats behind poles...
…oh well, there’s a better baseball team option in town if they want it…
Baseball is life.
Can they leave the stadium where it is...
and just make the interior one big parking garage and build the new Wrigley near it?
Just thinking aloud here. That’s kind of what they did with the old Fulton co. stadium in Atlanta.
by Shoeless In SC on Feb 15, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
population density and property values are a world apart on that issue.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Feb 15, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
You mean Chicago compared to Atlanta?
I guess that’s relevant to the discussion. I’ve never been near Wrigley so I don’t even know if there is enough area around it to support a new stadium. My guess is no. If they could pull it off… well, it’d be a decent option is all.
by Shoeless In SC on Feb 16, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
The Bad Guys
The Bad Guys donated alot of money to rehab Thillens Little League Stadium on the northside. Why can’t they play at Thillens? There little league players would fit right in at Thillens.
There's a reason why the media "suddenly" discovered JR's deal at USCF/New Comiskey was financially advantageous to him.
And it wasn’t about Bacardi at the Park. I’m sure it was part of a larger effort to put pressure on JR to host the Cubs for a year.
On the other hand, the need for USCF depends on the size and scope of the Wrigley renovations.
Let say the Sox (and the American League) decided to stay in a renovated Comiskey Park (the point is moot, because the president of the AL said the Sox had to be in a new facility by 1992). That probably would have required a wholesale gutting/rebuild. The Sox would have needed to play elsewhere in 1989, 1990 or whenever they decided to do it.
If the Cubs want to do it all in one year, then they have to play on the south side. If they have the patience to do it over the course of a decade…then they will most likely stay put.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
I'd like to think that the media discovering the deal also had some seeds planted
by the Ricketts. “Look at what the Sox get, and here all we are asking for is a little extra amusement tax to fund our triangle building.”
by South Side Expat on Feb 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed. But my tinfoil hat fits tighter:
Rahm looking to help Ricketts by using Emil Jones as the mouth. Same as he used the reverends during his bust the union campaign.
Illinois is a cesspool.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Teachers union.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
great write up U-God
I’m all for it. Its probably our best chance to steal fans since 2005. (although I’m not sure we want those types following the team) Maybe the attendance won’t be shit.
NAOPOS
i wonder how many "cubs fans" would head to games if there weren't 30 bars within a block of the stadium.
i’d venture a guess that we might find there are less cubs fans when baseball is the main course.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Feb 15, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
no doubt about that
and some of the more casual ones will probably find they enjoy the Cell and come back for more.
"not entirely realistic for the fanbase."???
Im cant say I entirely agree. I had a race in Milwaukee in 08 when the Brewers were red hot. It was like late August or early September and I lost count of how many locals were sportin Cubs hats…it was sickening. Milwaukee may suck for the Chicago fan base but not for the Cubs
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 15, 2012 5:03 PM CST reply actions
It's generally a bad idea to piss of your main fan base.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I concur, but
the cubs are kind of like the yankees in the way that theyll never be short of fans. if they played in milwaukee i dont think they would lose their home base. theyll still sell their tickets when the moved back.
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 15, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
i dont think the cubs will always have the untouchable fan base
look at the empty seats they had there just last year.
Wiki sez:
In an effort to return Major League Baseball to Milwaukee after the departure of the Braves, local businessman and minority Braves owner Bud Selig brought other teams to play at County Stadium, beginning with a 1967 exhibition game between the Chicago White Sox and Minnesota Twins. The exhibition game attracted more than 51,000 spectators, so Selig’s group contracted with Sox owner Arthur Allyn to host nine Chicago White Sox home games at County Stadium in 1968.
Selig’s experiment was staggeringly successful – those nine games drew 264,297 fans. Those games took place on May 15 vs. the California Angels,6 May 28 vs. the Baltimore Orioles,7 June 17 vs. the Cleveland Indians,8 June 24 vs. the Minnesota Twins,9 July 11 vs. the New York Yankees,10 July 22 vs. the Oakland A’s,11 August 2 vs. Washington Senators,12 August 8 vs. the Boston Red Sox,13 and August 26 vs. the Detroit Tigers.14 In Chicago that season, the Sox drew 539,478 fans to their remaining 58 home games. In just a handful of games, the Milwaukee crowds accounted for nearly one-third of the total attendance at White Sox games. In light of this success, Selig and Allyn agreed that County Stadium would host Sox home games again the next season.
In 1969, the Sox schedule in Milwaukee was expanded to include 11 home games (one against every other franchise in the American League at the time). Although those games were attended by slightly fewer fans (198,211 fans, for an average of 18,019) they represented a greater percentage of the total White Sox attendance than the previous year – over one-third of the fans who went to Sox home games in 1969 did so at County Stadium (in the remaining 59 home dates in Chicago, the Sox drew 391,335 for an average of 6,632 per game). Those games took place on April 23 vs. the California Angels,15 May 22 vs. Detroit Tigers,16 May 28 vs. the New York Yankees,17 June 11 vs. the Cleveland Indians,18 June 16 vs. the Seattle Pilots (who eventually became the Brewers the next season),19 July 2 vs. the Minnesota Twins,20 July 7 vs. the Oakland A’s,21 August 6 vs. the Washington Senators,22 August 13 vs. the Boston Red Sox,23 September 1 vs. the Baltimore Orioles,24 and September 26 vs. the Kansas City Royals.25
Despite the attendance success of the White Sox exhibition games, Selig was unable to attract an expansion team in the 1969 expansion.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
The "Orphans"
Kinda gives new meaning to the old name!
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Alternate between the Cell and Miller Park
If necessary… Just to be safe, anticipate that the field at U.S. Cellular Field might become quite cumbersome after so many consecutive days in baseball. Perhaps, in late May, mid July and the end of August, plan a Cubs home stretch for Miller Park.
If you don’t like my timeline, come up with your own. Eitherway, it gives the grounds crew at the Cell a few set of days during the season to still work their magic.
derp
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i hope magglio catches on! its not looking good.
:*(
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Stadium Deal
Wrigley has 2000 more seats but only 47 shitty little suites.The Cell has 90 suites and space for 30 more.This is where a deal can be found for everyone.
Miller Park------
would be a great venue for the Cubbies. Most Cub fans are on the North side so it’s not that far. They could have buses leaving Wrigley starting at 8 AM. We don’t want those creeps in the Cell more than 3 games a year. Fire Kenny and that will solve the payroll issues.
90 miles is a greater distance than 8.
And I was unaware firing Kenny undid the Rios and Dunn contracts.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
That's because you craig'd it and didn't check your facts!
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by RWShow on Feb 16, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Screw Miller Park and WI...
…the money and taxes should stay in Illinois and Cook County, with some fraction goiing to the White Sox organization. I don’t give a damn about cubs fans in “our” park.
The Cubs playing at the cell makes perfect sense, and I’ve assumed it would happen whenever the Wrigley renovation is given the go-ahead.
Was the Stanley Cup actually a dream? It already seems like a lifetime ago.
by TrickyDickAllen on Feb 16, 2012 2:24 PM CST reply actions
Sure let the Cubs play here..
Just have the Sodfather leave dogshit everywhere when they play
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I would hope the Cubs will play the Marlins there
I will go to see that. In all seriousness, I really want to go to two games this year. When Zambrano and Buehrle pitch against them. And I hope Zambrano gets a no no so all the Cub fans get bash Gatorade machines on the way out.
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Working in the park during the summer
I would love to work both teams games as long as we were able to keep the same team leaders are crew. Working both day and night watching baseball would be frigin’ awesome.
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