Talking with Tim Laker about Gary Carter, young White Sox hitters
Two decades before he was coaching in the White Sox farm system, Tim Laker was a well-regarded catching prospect for the Montreal Expos, working to take the reins from the outgoing (in more ways than one) Gary Carter.
You can watch the transfer below. On Sept. 27, 1992, Laker took Carter's place as a pinch runner after Carter delivered a game-winning double in the last at-bat of his Hall of Fame career, which nearly blew the roof off Olympic Stadium in the process.
"Going into it, it was the last home game of the season, and everybody knew it was his last game," Laker said over the phone from Hawaii, where he's watching his stepson play for the University of Oregon in the Ducks' season-opening series.
"He had a lot of ties in Montreal," he said. "There was a ceremony after the game, and he had learned enough French to do part of it in French. He embraced the city, and they embraced him."
That's evident in the three-minute standing ovation Carter received after his line drive carried over the outstretched glove of his former teammate Andre Dawson. Laker jogged onto the field to pinch-run for him, and they hugged near second base before Carter returned to the dugout. Simply put, Laker said the same thing we did: "It was really cool that he could get that moment."
After a pause: "It was a really cool moment."
The substitution was symbolic of their positions at the time, as their paths converged at their opposite ends. Carter had logged nearly 2,300 major-league games at the time, whereas Laker received his first big-league promotion a month earlier. Felipe Alou mainly used him as a late-inning defensive replacement to get his feet wet, and Carter offered help along the way.
"What really struck me was that he’d taken the time to talk to me about catching – just little things in passing, going out of his way to say, 'Nice job.' Knowing that he was done, to take the time to give to a younger guy meant a lot to me. I think it spoke volumes about the type of person he was."
After his trip to Hawaii, Laker will head to Camelback Ranch wearing his second title in two years. He is now the White Sox minor league hitting coordinator after spending last season with the Charlotte Knights as their hitting coach. In 2011, he watched three very different hitters -- Dayan Viciedo, Tyler Flowers and Alejandro De Aza -- all graduate to the majors.
Viciedo was a massive, mashing presence for the Knights during the first half of the season, and Laker likened him to Vladimir Guerrero, saying "he can go down and get a ball six inches off the ground and hit it off the wall to the opposite field." When Viciedo reaggravated the thumb he injured in spring training, his ability drive the ball suffered.
However, his walks skyrocketed:
- April-June: 18 walks over 335 PA
- July-August: 27 walks over 169 PA
I asked whether he thought Viciedo saw more pitches because his thumb problems made it more difficult to swing. Laker didn't think that was the primary cause, because the strike zone was basically the only aspect of Viciedo's game that required emphasis. When Viciedo returned to the dugout after a poor PA and asked Laker what he saw, Laker said he often answered a question with a question:
"Where was the pitch?"
"It was probably a ball inside."
"Well, there it is."
For what it's worth, when Viciedo rejoined the Sox for his second stint, he quadrupled his 2010 walk total (two to nine) in roughly the same amount of plate appearances. His 3.75 pitches per plate appearance fall between Carlos Quentin and Gordon Beckham on the 2011 leaderboard.
Flowers, in contrast, needed a mechanical overhaul to get rid of bad habits that hampered his hit tool. In particular, he found his base in a bad position when trying to get around on (and stay through) inside fastballs, and it took a lot of hard work to improve his coverage of that part of the plate. Ozzie Guillen and Greg Walker could see the changes, as they praised Laker for the progress when they got a look at Flowers in August.
De Aza, the oldest of the three, was a finished product by comparison. "He has the same routine every day in the cage, and he has a good understanding of his swing," Laker said. "If he feels it's a little off, he knows what to do to get it right back. He took that same exact swing in Triple-A to the majors."
Now he'll be tasked with overseeing hitters with varying degrees of polish, one of which is Jared Mitchell. Buddy Bell has thrown a ton of support behind Mitchell, and he's not alone in his optimism. Laker spent time this winter watching Mitchell in instructional league, and laid the foundation for what hopefully will be a beneficial relationship.
"We hit off real good in instructional league, exchanged texts ... he’s excited. His swing felt more like it did when he got drafted."
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That damn strike...
…just destroyed baseball in Montreal. I miss the Expos, and Gary Carter.
Was the Stanley Cup actually a dream? It already seems like a lifetime ago.
by TrickyDickAllen on Feb 18, 2012 4:59 AM CST reply actions
pretty close to make or break this year with Mitchell
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 18, 2012 8:13 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
It's that time of the year
I feel like Viciedo can be a world beater.
Morel can hit 8 HR every month like last September
De Aza can match his .900 OPS over an entire season
Humber can keep his ERA under 4 again.
The Sox are in this thing in 2012!
I don't think you have to go that far
But I do honestly feel that the demise of the team is greatly exaggerated. They pretty much didn’t add a thing but have viable replacements for everything they lost. The question is do you think they just had an off year from what was predicted or was it the true talent? I lean heavily to former.
Viciedo can = Quentin especially with health considerations.
Morel will be better than last year
De Aza (okay you know I get a little crazy with him) but he’s better than Pierre
I think a decent year with a surprise ending boils down to
1) Dunn
2) Peavy
3) Sale
4) Humber
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
oh yeah thats huge
there is no depth to be found.
well i guess we have one more ok outfielder now.
ps- i dont really think all those things will happen, i just am starting to ramp up the enthusiasm for 2012)
great idea for a feature
After watching the clip Thursday, I thought “hey, Laker’s here…” and hoped someone in the Chicago media might talk to him about Carter’s final AB. Glad you did it.
It’s February, so I will try to be optimistic about Jared Mitchell.
Gary Carter on Leonard Lopate
Leonard Lopate of WNYC is one of my favorite interviewers. Carter was on his show in April 2008, and WNYC ran a tribute to Carter by replaying that interview the other day. Here’s the link
Profit at White Sox's spring home drops 65% in two years
By the third season at Camelback Ranch, neither the White Sox nor Dodgers made much money from playing there, according to documents filed Friday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court.
The Camelback Ranch profits fell 65% in two years — from $2,162,047 in 2009 to $759,017 in 2011, according to the documents. The average attendance for the White Sox hardly moved (6,119 in 2009 to 6,117 in 2011), but the Dodgers’ attendance has dropped 17%.
probably not a huge surprise that profits dropped from the opening season. but it looks like it’s pretty much the fault of the dodgers that it dropped so much.
The Montreal Canadiens...
…had a great tribute to Gary before Sunday night’s game against New Jersey. Can be found at NHL.com.
Was the Stanley Cup actually a dream? It already seems like a lifetime ago.
by TrickyDickAllen on Feb 20, 2012 3:41 AM CST reply actions

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