Pierzynski vs. Flowers: How Will Ventura Handle the Backstops
At SoxFest, Tyler Flowers was asked a few questions about A.J. Pierzynski and didn't shy away from the fact that they "started off a little rocky". He tried to make it seem like everything was now smoothed over and they have a good relationship. I didn't buy it and neither did 67WMAQ.
Flowers said the same thing yesterday and while Tyler said that they are bonding, A.J. didn't seem like a guy who is all too happy about hearing questions about his playing time:
"I don't think I have much left to prove, I've proven what I need to prove in this game. I'll continue to go out and do what I can this year and hopefully play a lot and I'll play when they tell me to play".
Granted, any veteran player who thinks he is being threatened by a younger player is going to have some negative feelings about the situation. At least I would hope they do. Unfortunately though, A.J. has a history of being a problem in the clubhouse. While it hasn't shown itself on the South Side, he has never had his playing time threatened like he may this year. Pierzynski is 35 years old and in the last year of his contract. The Sox are going to want to get an extended look at Flowers this year to see if he can handle the regular duties next season, or if he going to go the way of Mark Johnson, Josh Paul and Ben Davis.
Not only are people asking him questions about losing playing time to Flowers, but former catcher and current bench coach Mark Parent has said that they have to get better at stopping the running game of the opposing team. This is obviously a true statement, but A.J. might take it as an insult to him.
As Daryl Van Schouwen stated in the sun times, the relationship between Flowers and Pierzynski was icy due to the fact that Jake Peavy and A.J. had a blowup in the clubhouse and after working with him in a rehab stint, Peavy talked up Flowers.
Pierzynski has been a workhorse for the Sox. He has caught 1,000 innings every year he has been here. He isn't going to be happy unless he is getting regular duties like that again this year.
Flowers is respecting the veteran by saying "The guy works his tail off. If you’ve been around him, he works harder than anyone else I’ve seen. Looking in from the outside, this guy has done something special for the past 10 years, so I need to pick up and learn some stuff from him and hopefully duplicate what he’s done with his career.’’
If A.J. gets off to a quick start, remains healthy and the White Sox are in contention, this won't be an issue. It also won't be an issue if Flowers looks lost at the plate like he has most of the time during his Major League career.
However, a slow start from A.J. and some power and arm flashed by Flowers, like he did when he first took over for Pierzynski last season, and we could see Robin Ventura's first test as a manager. Is he going to respect the veteran? Will he give Flowers an extended shot if he's playing well? Maybe those are the questions A.J. is talking about.
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Maybe he will agree to be traded at some point?
From Scott Merkin mailbag Feb 7:
With so many ifs in the picture this year, I agree that the White Sox are a third- or fourth-place team in 2012. Would A.J. Pierzynski accept a trade to the Marlins around midseason for another playoff run with Ozzie Guillen and Mark Buehrle?
— Bob, Chandler, Ariz.
Pierzynski told me during the offseason that the 2012 season definitely will not be his last in the Majors, and that he would love to finish his career with the White Sox. I’m not sure if the Sox, at least at this point, have plans for Pierzynski past 2012, when his two-year deal ends.
As we’ve talked about before in the Inbox, Pierzynski has earned the no-trade veto power and won’t just wave it for any deal. He wants to win, though, and if the White Sox fall out of contention early, I could see Pierzynski consenting to a deal that would be a good fit personally and for his family.
I remember asking Buehrle last Spring Training about his no-trade clause. He gave me a great answer, talking about how much the White Sox had done for him and his family, and he would help the team if the situation called for it or worked. He also spoke of not wanting to think about no-trade clauses before what looked like a promising season even began. That theory works the same for Pierzynski and Konerko, for that matter.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
Talking about the Marlins
They (in their blog) just analyse the catching position: Miami Marlins Season Preview: Catcher , and their panorama at the position looks gloomy.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 7:46 AM CST up reply actions
Buck is projected for about the same wOBA as A.J.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
i'm sure he wouldn't mind going there.
he lives in florida, ozzie and buehrle are his boys etc.
i don’t think the sox would be willing to trade him just yet though. flowers is far from a sure thing
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Yes, but Flowers is cheap....aren't we Re-building? Re-tooling? Re-[insert word here]?
AJ is a 6 million player this year. Other than batting average, I don’t see a significant difference between Flowers and AJ. Small sample though. I think the Sox will be fine going with either catcher.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
flowers started out strong last year. if he played the whole year like that id agree.
but he fell off fast and hard and before you looked he was hitting barely .200. he’s going to have to prove it that he is ready to be the every day catcher. which is going to piss off aj when he gets the chance.
otherwise we go into next year blind, unless they are willing to sign aj again which i guess is a possibility. i find it unlikely now though.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Honestly I feel like Flowers could hit .220
and still be more valuable than AJ based on OBP, power and ability in the running game.
by polodude017 on Feb 25, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I totally agree
I love AJ presence and intensity, but he seems to hit when it does not matter… i.e. two outs nobody on and losing by 5 runs…. Sorry I have no support for that, it’s my perception. Like I said here before, AJ has the strange ability to make a 280 AVE to look more like 220.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
He's the perfect example of why batting average is an almost useless statistic.
He hits for a solid average, but he doesn’t walk much (so his OBP is usually low), he doesn’t hit for much power and he’s a poor baserunner. And on top of that, he’s awful at controlling the running game.
By comparison, Flowers should (SHOULD, obviously no certainty here) provide more power, a better OBP and a better arm behind the plate.
poor base runner? how dare you?
he’s the best base runner on the team. maybe one of the best in the league.
/hawk
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude
Wishing and opinions are not reality and facts.He is not a power hitter but he can hit it over the wall.His OBP is about the same as all of our starters.(unfortunately)He is a smart base runner not poor.As well as a left handed bat at a right handed position.
I hope Flowers is a good player but his play up till now has been not great.
Lastly pitchers also have some responsibilities for the running game.
aren't the two kind of synonymous?
unless you’re suggesting a player can consistently get by on dumb luck.
the more you know.
i am a bit confused by that BsR stat. pierre’s best rating was in the year when he was caught stealing more than a third of the time. i can only assume he was awesome when he was on base?
meanwhile, jose reyes, who is pretty decent at stealing a base doesn’t really come close to pierre’s BsR scores. ergo, not so clever the rest of the time?
Base running and stolen bases are not the same thing
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
that would be where getting a good read and knowing where your OFs are comes into play.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
if we want to talk about intelligent baserunners
juan pierre would be a pretty good example from the last 15 years. figgins, ichiro, utley are probably up there with him. utley is an example of guy who doesn’t steal many bases but is a virtuoso when the ball is put into play. andrus looks like a guy who may the example from the next 15 years.
baserunning is similar to outfield defense in that, if you’re fast, it’s going to be hard for you to be a below average outfielder. and the guys who are both fast and instinctual/intelligent are the ones who are the elite defenders.
That's a pretty good explanation.
Good call on Utley.
by polodude017 on Feb 26, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
If baserunning is your argument for AJ over Flowers...
I think you need a new argument.
AJ's promo work is some of the best in the Central.
by FlyingSpaghettiMonster on Feb 25, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
It clearly worked on Lil Jimmy.
That or AJ has naked pics of him.
Not sure why else you would ignor logic
and point to AJ’s baserunning as a reason to keep running him out there.
by polodude017 on Feb 26, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
could be the dumbest stance youve taken yet
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
AJ has read fielders positions and arms pretty well and has determined fairly successfully if he can take an extrabase
I don’t know if I’d call it smart, probably instinctual. This aptitude isn’t likely to show up in any statistics.
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
ok, i'm wrong. I figured several people would tell me so.
My memory might be horrid but it always seems that he is able put himself in position to take an extra base when the opportunity arises
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
he's consistently pretty poor.
see BsR on the right side.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=746&position=C
if anyone wants to dispute the methodology (i notice IQ isn’t an input), explanation here:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/ultimate-base-running-primer/
Wow, thats some great information
Maybe Its the unorthodox successes that stand out in my memory rather than the typical boneheadedness. Thanks for the links.
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
i just remember a few occasions last season
when i took a moment to note the irony of what hawk says about aj on the bases.
Hence the term "should".
Obviously Flowers could fall flat on his face, but his track record indicates a few things that SHOULD make him more valuable than AJ:
1. Walks – His minor league BB rates have hovered between 13-19% since he hit high-A. Even in his 129 PA audition last season in the majors, he held a 11% walk rate. That’s very solid.
2. Pop – Since hitting high-A, minor league ISO over .200 at every stop except his late season cup of AAA in ‘09. .200 ISO during last season’s cup of tea.
3. Throwing arm – 8/33 CS (24%) last year in the majors. 26% at AAA in ’10, 27% at AAA in ’11. By comparison AJ was at 20% last season.
AJ hasn’t posted an ISO over .120 since 2009 or a BB rate over 5% since 2000! His OBP’s since joining the Sox: .308, .333, .309, .312, .331, .300, .323. And he’s not getting any younger.
Obviously pitchers have a part in holding runners, but your blind if you don’t think a lot of their troubles in the running game are on AJ.
this two weeks without commenting lark is harder than i thought it would be.
some of aj’s splits:
risp: .772 ops (his career ops is .746)
with two outs in an inning: .697
his line when the team is ahead: .285/.317/.416
when the the team is behind: .286/.328/.440
I wonder why he had only 48 RBIs
Just for comparison purposes…Juan Pierre had more RBIs (50) and was hitting lead off and 100 points less than AJ in terms of OPS with RISP…. AJ must be very un-lucky with his 772 OPS with RISP. Maybe the runner on base was always Konerko who needs a double to score from 2nd.
AJ has the strange ability to make a 280 AVE to look more like 220.
Let me try a new one => AJ can make an 772 OPS with RISP to look more like 500 OPS
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
its difficult hitting runners home, when the batters in front of you are dunn and rios
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
So it is easier when the batter in front of you is Beckham and Morel?
Remember that Quentin was somewhere in between Rios and Dunn. No Quentin in between Morel and Beckham.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
pierre had AJ to knock in.
lets not be silly and pretend that the difference between 50 and 48 rbi has anything to do with the player.
.287 and .296
morel and beckham’s obp’s.
.265 and .292
rios and dunn’s.
which two would you choose to hit behind? the first two, as they were on base more, thus giving you more opportunities to hit them in. not to mention they are both faster than rios/dunn
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
you sure do talk some shite.
Let me try a new one => AJ can make an 772 OPS with RISP to look more like 500 OPS
Yeah...that was out of the line and unfunny.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
if i'd said nonsense instead of shite, would you still be offended?
because those words are pretty much interchangeable in common scots.
either way, it is true.
I wasn't offended. I said something nonesensical. I should stop opening my first beer at 11 AM
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Pierre had more plate appearances with runners on base
265, while Pierzynski only had 214.
And with runners in scoring position, Pierre had 154 PA. Pierzynski had 131.
by Jim Margalus on Feb 25, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Also, OPS by leverage...
High leverage situations: .781
Medium leverage: .734
Low leverage: 698
by Jim Margalus on Feb 25, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
6 million isnt all that expensive
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
KW deemed "expensive" our closer at 2.75 MM....
I was thinking more into the “rebuilding” process the Sox are into (?)
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
when did he say santos was expensive?
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
You got me there...he didn't say such thing.
Anyway, I never said AJ is expensive.
However, I can safely bet that the Sox can get a better production per $ from Flowers than from AJ.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
can you though?
lets not be naive about it. the sox need aj and for what aj is being paid, he is worth it. for what the sox have in their system, its even more worth having aj play more than a majorityof the games this year. for 6 million? easy decision.
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
while i think aj is the better option
i think it would be silly not to give flowers an extended run at some point. especially if things aren’t going very well record wise.
you have to see what you are going to do at the position next year. if a 36 year old AJ is your best answer then thats fine. you gotta see what flowers can do with major league pitching though.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
i agree
but id have aj catch around 80% of the games in april (unless flowers really shines in spring) and have that wane of the course of the season to flowers.
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
i wish we had a wordfilter for 'ozzie'. like 'milkshake' or something. anything.
DUNK HIS ASS
by obnoxious american on Feb 25, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
Hell I'm surprised AJ is still here.
According to LilJimmy it was basically a done deal at one point this offseason, AJ to the Marlins for Logan Morrison.
by polodude017 on Feb 25, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
We wish!!!
Marlins wont give Morrison for a 35 yrs old catcher….and 6 Millions baggage.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
At 35
AJ’s body is going to be the determining factor.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Is that it?
What about the reality that AJ might not be the best catcher on the team anymore?
by polodude017 on Feb 25, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
35 years old
In the last year of his contract.That is old for a starting catcher which he has always been.He will not start next year and where ever that is it won,t be here.if only Donny Lucy hadn’t retired.
barring any career ending injury
i personally give you my guarantee he starts next year
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
Kenny is going to be on espn 1000 now if you are near a radio
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
let's see if this works...
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by TasteeFreeze on Feb 25, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
He said this about this subject. (paraphrased)
he’s (flowers) really good and the pitchers love throwing to him. i expect more growth back there. this guy has a chance to be an impact player but it takes a while to get there. Aj is going to help him out with some things and Kenny feels its a good combination.
AJ conditions himself to catch every day and loves to play. its a demanding position and they feel they will get more out of aj if he is given an unwanted break.
up to robin to determine who gets the lions share of playing time, but robin has said aj will go into the year as the guy.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Anyone else...
shocked? Shocked! That a potential playing rival to AJ would have a prickly reception from AJ? He just seems to me to be, at best, difficult to get along with.
Well, boys, it's a round ball and a round bat and you got to hit the ball square. ~Joe Schultz, 1969
by zevsenesca on Feb 25, 2012 10:33 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Sorry AJ, but you're not starting all but one game a week anymore.
The Sox would have to be out of their minds to not get a good look at Flowers this year (I’m thinking like 60/40 or 65/35 split). AJ’s contract is up and I doubt he’s re-signed (which is a smart move). They have no one else ready behind Flowers in the organization to take over, so they need to see what they have there. He’s probably always going to struggle with his average, but he should take a good amount of walks and bring good power. Hell, he’s already way better than AJ at controlling the running game. Maybe he’s not a full-time kind of guy, but I’d say there’s at least a solid chance of him being a good part of a platoon situation.
your subject and body are completely different
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
How so?
AJ has always had his 5-6 starts per week. I think Flowers deserves more PT than the 1 game a week that was granted to Castro the last few years. Where’s the confusion?
In a 7 game week, a 60-40 split would indicate
2.8 games a week played by one, and 4.2 games played by the other. a 6 game week would divide up as 3.6 games for one and 2.4 for the other. It isn’t until you’re talking about first 2 weeks of April loads, or heavy weather delay weeks where one catcher would only catch 1 game in a 60-40 split.
Even in a 6 game week, a 35% split would give the lesser player 2.1 games a week.
I also call bullshit on your title as representative of the rest of your post.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Feb 25, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't care.
Bottom line: Flowers deserves more than one start per week. That’s my point.
If you're going to dish tedium, you have to be able to take tedium
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
True.
Rhubarb, if you were the one who said this, I really wouldn’t have argued. And even by TasteeFreeze’s “tedium” above, there was nothing incorrect about what I said. I said Flowers deserved more than one game per week. And he said in a 6 game week, a 35% split would put him at 2+ games per week.
You didn't deserve it based on what you said, although the first time I read the subject line the way tastee read it, but i'm a little stoned and im not sure what his excuse is
I just like you to experience tedious sticklerism from time to time
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
I'm an asshole
and I don’t use it as an excuse.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Feb 25, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rios arrives early and speaks
http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
hey alex, i'll tell you what,
just get out there in left field and shut your trap.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
beckham's statement is now on that same link (the rios one is the second story)
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
i wonder if aj has a future w the sox after he's done
like the various other sox who have hung around after retiring. of course, that didn’t stop guys from playing for other teams late in their careers. it’s still a business.
I think his post-playing career will be in broadcasting
Probably some kind of studio guy on MLB Network.
David Schuster said most of the Sox position players are in camp
only 2 notables missing are Konerko and Dunn.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Can't wait for the meatballs to run away with that one.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
i'm ready to run!
the hell is wrong with the guy. you would think he’d like to get in early to get all the questions out of the way and show he’s ready to turn the page.
only 2 explanations as to why he isn’t there
1. He’s lazy.
2. He’s contemplating retirement.
Lets hope its #2.
:)
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
we all know you hate konerko
but that’s a bit much.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
hey hey hey. while it is true he doesn't crack my list of top 25 white sox...
i have taken back my hate for him. you’re 2 years behind.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
We all know Konerko's going to have to do more than win a championship
to crack KenWo’s personal top 25. Who’s he going to displace—Ivan Calderon!?!?!
by Craig Grebeck on Feb 25, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
the deacon is safe
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
HEY! He listened to me
Garfien just said he arrived at training camp.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Maybe he can't get his visa straightened out
to return from lazy-asshole-land.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Feb 25, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
How dare he only show up 2 days earlier than he has to!
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
this
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
He never should have left for home
Dunn should have lived in the White Sox home dug-out all winter, and just spend 10 hours a day standing at home plate, swinging a bat, only taking breaks to eat fried chicken he ordered on his cell phone from home plate.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Feb 25, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
dunn's there and took batting practice with manto today
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 25, 2012 7:33 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Let's hope 'hands of fate' didn't walk into Venchie's office today and say, "We've got a big problem."
White Sox 2012: Helplessly rebuilding?
alright, who the hell is that now?
DUNK HIS ASS
by obnoxious american on Feb 26, 2012 5:01 AM CST up reply actions
ah
i think i actually watched 5 minutes of that on svengoolie’s deal.
DUNK HIS ASS
by obnoxious american on Feb 26, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
march 5th... Sox vs. Dodgers- first spring training game on the Score
just a little more than a week away from hearing the soothing sounds of DJ and Farmio.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
BREAKING NEWS: VENTURA CONFIRMS DUNN MAKES OPENING DAY ROSTER!
by larry on Feb 25, 2012 2:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
i'll tell ya, i was worried.
DUNK HIS ASS
by obnoxious american on Feb 25, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
obviously.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
You heard it here first, folks.
Mark Gonzales always gets the scoop.
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
Merkin reports Peavy is suffering from an eye infection.
10 bucks says this somehow results in a DL stint.
You're on.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
witness.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
The amount of bet settling at the methup is going to be stagering.
by South Side Expat on Feb 25, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
i bet you it won't be.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
i sure hope this team surprises, because i can't remember liking less guys on a sox team.
oh wait, last year, too.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
fewer.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
haha
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
proper grammar is no joking matter, son.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i know, itd just been a while since ive seen the correction
love the meme
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
If AJ's body shows wear and tear, perhaps JR can send him for some R&R on a rutabaga farm (all-inclusive)
White Sox 2012: Helplessly rebuilding?
guess whose arm hurts? (don't worry, not on the white sox) go ahead, i'll give you one guess.
that’s right! joel zumaya!
http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/140421013.html
no surprise, i know. but over three weeks ago the onion saw it coming too.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
He's pitched barely 200 innings in a 6 years career
An average of 33 innings per year. Ugly….
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 25, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
I see that trolls and smartasses reported early to SSS ST.
Just don’t peak too early guys
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
ahahahaha
whatever it doesn't matter anymore.
by pierzynskirules on Feb 25, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
The dry Arizona air makes jokes more funny.
Not an accurate gauge of hilarity once dew point weather hits.
by FlyingSpaghettiMonster on Feb 25, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
It was a play on how the WS clearly neeever hit well in April
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
That brought me memories....unpleasant memories
When Guillen had the brilliant idea to bat Rios at clean-up!
I heard Soriano will be their everyday clean-up hitter.
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Feb 26, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
i'll be out of it by june.
DUNK HIS ASS
by obnoxious american on Feb 26, 2012 5:02 AM CST up reply actions
Jokes in April
It’s all fun and games till someone gets hurt.
breaking news. apparently if he had gotten around 600 at bats last season the bridge was on pace to hit around 94 home runs!
Lillibridge hit .258 with 29 home runs in 186 at bats last season,
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/category?name=2012-spring-training
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Feb 25, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Love the quality writing from ESPN.
We only respectable members of the blog to any kind of standard. - Grinder In Training
by omnipotent grab on Feb 25, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, bridge hit 29 HRs in 29 ABs
not counting the others.
sideways smiley face
by TasteeFreeze on Feb 25, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Can lilli play catcher?
At this point why not?
by JPSoprano80 on Feb 25, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
he's the emergency backup, isn't he?
DUNK HIS ASS
by obnoxious american on Feb 26, 2012 5:03 AM CST up reply actions
Tiny Bridge Catching
Why not? He has played every other position but Left.Couldn’t hurt to try.
well, they fixed it now.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck



























