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Speaking of Sunday Links...

Happy "The Big Game" day, folks. For me it just means we're that much closer to pitchers and catchers reporting. Yep, the Sox even come in last in reporting for spring training. I know today is important to many people, so I'll let you get back to drinking fatty foods and eating beer. We lead off with a proper Sunday essay topic: baseball as religion. Soon after the end of World War Uno, Russian-born American philosopher Morris R. Cohen wrote about baseball, and settling differences on the field of play rather than the field of battle, in glowing terms. Perhaps the game didn't strike such hopeful highs, but the article is inspiring nonetheless.

Speaking of football, I assume everyone has seen this before, but here's Carlin's still-hilarious comparison with that inferior sport and baseball. The jerk just didn't understand.

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Traditionally, U.S. Presidents throw out the first pitch on Opening Day, via Old Time Family Baseball. I like Jimmy Carter, (picked blueberries at his Georgia compound once) but sheesh. Why not make some time for issues of actual import?

Speaking of the past, a retrospective on Al Smith from The Hardball Times.

Sabr lists the records tied and broken in 2011. Some of those game records make for great win expectancy graphs on Fangraphs.

From The Book blog, more fodder for the argument for American League strength, looking specifically at 2011.

Speaking of The Book, because it's linked by TangoTiger, I feel I can link it, too: An analysis of the golden age of Calvin and Hobbes' Sunday strips. Basically any excuse to bring up that beloved comic.

Okay, some meaty stuff I found interesting: A look at production from the corners, by position, over recent years, from our old friend Christina Kahrl, former Baseball Prospectus editor. The mini-series continues with up-the-middle analysis, then defines average at each position. This is all using EqA instead of the more tossed-around (on SSS, at least) wOBA. Don't worry, it's a simple concept, dear reader: an overall offensive stat adjusted to many factors (such as park and league) and scaled to a regular batting average which stays constant season-to-season.

Speaking of BP, new-type baseball lingo, such as "innings muncher." Kind of edgy, though not very flowing.

This illustration, while safe for work is... disturbing.

Speaking of disturbing, a quote: "As Williams said on Friday night, if the White Sox hit, they will contend. Parent's adjustment to that statement is if the White Sox hit, Rios might have a chance to top his career high of 34 stolen bases, Ramirez might surpass 15 for the first time in his career and Konerko might even reach five stolen bases in a season." Uh-oh.

In stadium construction news, yes, it's coming along terribly. It still looks like the animation! And ground was broken this past week on the Barons' new stadium, Regions Field, set to open for the 2013 season.

Don't forget the open thread tomorrow. Call your sons, call your daughters. Call your friends, call your neighbors. It's like a pledge drive, but we actually expect you to be cheap.

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all I know is I'm finally starting to dig myself out of my post-Groundhog Day funk

thinking about 16,000 swiping bases just made my day a little brighter

White Sox 2012: Helplessly rebuilding?

by greenlight on Feb 5, 2012 6:56 AM CST reply actions  

Big rec for a very entertaining post
Happy “The Big Game” day, folks. For me it just means we’re that much closer to pitchers and catchers reporting.

I lived 8 years in the USA, went to several bbq with fellow Americans, and watched loads of “football” (They carry the ball (Is that even a ball?) with their hands, but for some reason it’s called football), and I have never ever understood the fascination for that sport. One of the more boring sports out there….meh….just another Sunday to me.

The truly religious devotee has his soul directed to the final outcome; and every one of the extraordinarily rich multiplicity of movements of the baseball game acquires its significance because of its bearing on that outcome.

I really dig that quote from that Cohen article. Great essay.

About that Carling moment…was he dissing Football or stating that baseball is sorta effeminate sport?

The illustration…hilarious….I hope it does not repeat.

For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.

by JofpGallagher on Feb 5, 2012 7:26 AM CST reply actions  

I could easily shred this apart

But its not worth it. If I didn’t have a lot of options growing up I’m sure I’d enjoy soccer more than I do.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

And there's nothing wrong with not enjoying soccer.

I don’t care much for basketball. Just not my thing. What seems to bother most soccer fans (at least me) is the weird sense of pride people seem to take in bashing the sport.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Feb 5, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh that's easy.

Its not “American”. Doesn’t make it right but you know that’s easily it.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Never heard tennis take any heat

Maybe because Americans were good at Tennis once upon a time? Or just because it isn’t extraordinarily popular overseas?

fcdisbad.blogspot.com

by Carbiner on Feb 5, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably..

Isnt that the truth for everybody? Shit “technically” there were more Chinese than American fans of basketball at Ya Ming’s peak of popularity.

I haven’t watched men’s tennis in ages.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Shame for you

Federer Nadal was great, now they’re both starting to get old/injured and Djokovic is or was emerging, but if there was ever a time to watch tennis it was for Wimbledon 2007/2008.

That reminds me, I still have to watch the Australian Open final. Hurray for ESPN3.

fcdisbad.blogspot.com

by Carbiner on Feb 5, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

speaking of world war one

and soccer,
the germans and the british actually stopped fighting on christmas day 1914 and had a game in no man’s land.

by craigws on Feb 5, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The only sport I "hate" and want wiped off the face of the earth is

Women’s professional basketball. It’s an abomination.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

bok Brings the Value to this site!

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Feb 6, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

The sport itself is fine

The way they implemented the league was god awful though.

fcdisbad.blogspot.com

by Carbiner on Feb 5, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Even March Madness?

Come on, filling in a bracket is the only vaguely interesting “fantasy” sports thing in the universe

fcdisbad.blogspot.com

by Carbiner on Feb 5, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I fill out a bracket.

And I watch when Illinois plays. Other than that, it doesn’t really do anything for me.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Feb 5, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

just to spite all the soccer haters

i’m not going to watch the idiotic super bowl.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Feb 5, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You going to watch "Heidi"

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe catch a little puppy bowl VIII

then it’ll be time for downton abbey!

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Feb 5, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly my wifes plan.

She even watched the Man U – Chelsea game this morning.

by South Side Expat on Feb 5, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

that was a pretty exciting game

featuring quite a bit of poor play, pathetic defense, and heinous refereeing.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Feb 5, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

Is Soccer gonna be a thing for Fox on Sunday mornings now?

by South Side Expat on Feb 5, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

i haven't heard anything about it.

i doubt they would show a game like stoke v swansea (which is the 10am game scheduled 3 weeks from today) but i could see them showing the march 4th matchup of spurs v manU.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Feb 5, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

very good

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

25 years on China?

Over or under. Also presumably the US, if it hasn’t totally collapsed economically, won’t give up hegemony without some sort of quarrel, military or otherwise.

fcdisbad.blogspot.com

by Carbiner on Feb 5, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

over.

China has a lot of big issues they need to start dealing with. seeing what the new leadership will do will also be interesting.

plus didn’t you hear Clint Eastwood in the commercial?

boxcars boxcars boxcars

by soxshenanigans on Feb 5, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Supposedly Sunday Night Football is the most watched program in the world

I am not a huge football fan myself, I like the Hockeys and the Baseballs, but Football is still fun to watch. Plus its a great way to spend time with friends. The Fantasy Football stuff can be a bit annoying, but whatever.

by 815Sox on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't wait for the Super Bowl to be over; as long as Brady doesn't get another ring, I'm happy.

A bunch of my friends are planning a Super Bowl party, and I suggested having a World Series viewing party in October. Once they stopped laughing and ragging on baseball, I smiled and shot back, “You people have one championship game. I get four to seven times the excitement.” There was a pause, and then they just walked off shaking their head. But, I’ve gotten them to agree to go to a U of Iowa baseball game or two this spring. I’m slowly converting them…

We play on the "bad" side of town, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.

by ChiSoxRox on Feb 5, 2012 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

I never will understand the Brady hate.

To me he’s about the coolest one can expect a dude to be with his success. Him and George Clooney.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

And Chef Julius.

Way cooler than Clooney.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2012 9:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I have your wine but admit I have been too lazy to ship it.

I’m in San Diego next week then home for awhile. I promise to saunter up to the PO. Chef leaves for Israel and Chile in a week and half. I don’t think his ass is cool but that is hot.

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a new address -

wait to ship. Closing on my house 2/23. If it goes as expected I’ll send you the details.

Thanks for remembering.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't have anything against Brady, but I dislike sports dynasties, especially East Coast ones.

Three Super Bowl titles in four appearances in twelve years is more than enough. This is also why I loathe the Yankees.

We play on the "bad" side of town, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.

by ChiSoxRox on Feb 5, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't mind dynasties

I think sports kind of need them. Now I do hate when its because a team spends gogobs more money than everyone else but even then I take pleasure in them getting beat. Where you a Bulls fan? Are you consistent?

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree re: dynasties.

I don’t get the Patriots hate in general. I just moved out to Boston last summer, and while the fans are total pukes I feel pretty neutral to most Boston sports teams.

Doesn’t hurt I’m going to a Patriots-friendly household today and eating homemade soft pretzels.

by Craig Grebeck on Feb 5, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I was a late-blooming sports fan

In fact, 2005 is what got me interested in sports, and the Bears Super Bowl run in 2007 is what keyed me in to football. So the Bulls years are hindsight to me, and I was only six when the last ring was won. But I’d probably embrace it—and have a more favorable view of dynasties if it was Us instead of Them.

Now, I don’t hate dynasties, not at all, but I find it…monotonous when the same team piles up championships. I love eras of parity like the 2000s and the World Series, when eight teams in ten years won it all.

We play on the "bad" side of town, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.

by ChiSoxRox on Feb 5, 2012 10:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Not only do I agree with everything you said,

but I share the same experiences you described, right down to being six when the Bulls won their last championship. Good stuff.

"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
The median team has gone 21.5 years without a World Series title. Depressed yet?

by mikecws91 on Feb 5, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

tuck rule. fuck brady.

Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 9, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

for the links to Al Smith and “Calvin and Hobbs”. Great stuff.
Bill Veeck’s history/action on race relations is remarkable.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Feb 5, 2012 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

FMP.

mercy.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Feb 5, 2012 9:12 AM CST reply actions  

Is that Kenny in that pic?

Jesus, he looks like Moms Mabley without the hat.

We're all here because we're not all there.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2012 9:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Extra Points

For the Moms Mabley reference.

by Lil Jimmy on Feb 5, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Parent just needs to focus on increasing the base runners thrown out.

not increasing our total…..

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Nice links

Cool site about umpiring. http://www.stevetheump.com
Odd baseball facts. http://wwvbbc.tripod.com/theearlygameoddfactsstrangerules.html

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Feb 5, 2012 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

And baseball beakfast links, from Nippon Ham.

One scout reports that Yu Darvish, late of the Nippon Ham Fighters, prepares these for breakfast every day. Hey Yu — nice links.

While they appear squidlicious to the eye, they’re secretly full of porky goodness for added strength. Winny!

by Secret Chimp on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

this is crazy
Another legal yet rarely acted upon play would be not advncing to first base. With a runner on 1st and an a batted ground ball that is an obvious out making play, the batter elects to stand on home plate and not attempt to advance to 1st declaring himself out. This removes the force out on the runner at 1st and the possible double play.

DUNK HIS ASS

by obnoxious american on Feb 6, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

That "baseball catcher"Device

Looks pretty sweet, they should use it now

by ObsidianXIII on Feb 6, 2012 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I have decided to send White Sox players copies of the Kobe system

"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2012 12:14 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

1 New

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Feb 8, 2012 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

drown, children, etc.

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Feb 10, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

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