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White Sox @ Cubs -- Buehrle vs. Zambrano

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Mark Buehrle (9-4, 3.22) vs. Carlos Zambrano (6-3, 2.95)

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Mark Buehrle (L, 9-4, 3.22, 16, 16, 111.2, 47, 28, 1.25, .262) vs. Carlos Zambrano (R, 6-3, 2.95, 17, 17, 113.0, 112, 62, 1.24, .194)  [Throws, W-L, ERA, G, GS, IP, K, BB, WHIP, BAA]

Time: 1:20 p.m., TV: WGN Ch. 9 (Sox announcers), CSN (Cubs announcers), Radio: WSCR-AM 670

Good Guys: 
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. S Podsednik, LF      .263    2       32      25
2. T Iguchi, 2B         .290    8       37      5
3. P Konerko, 1B        .316    20      62      1
4. J Dye, RF            .309    20      56      3
5. A Pierzynski, C      .327    5       26      0
6. A Cintron, 3B        .295    2       16      8
7. R Mackowiak, CF      .283    2       12      0
8. J Uribe, SS          .238    9       37      0
9. M Buehrle, P         .000    0       0       0
Bad Guys: 
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. J Pierre, CF         .257    1       12      25
2. R Cedeno, SS         .270    2       21      5
3. D Lee, 1B            .296    4       12      5
4. A Ramirez, 3B        .259    15      48      1
5. M Barrett, C         .300    8       30      0
6. A Pagan, RF          .250    0       1       0
7. M Murton, LF         .264    4       21      3
8. N Perez, 2B          .238    1       16      0
9. C Zambrano, P        .156    2       6       0
GO SOX!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 12:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

idiots
are throwing back foul balls now.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Slapping the ball may the best way
to beat Zambrano?

by southsidefan on Jul 2, 2006 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf?
was with that throw by murton? I thought JD was going to be out by a mile, it didn't even look like he was running full speed.

by pappysux on Jul 2, 2006 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ball AJ hit
Literally at the shoetops, and a couple inches off the outside corner, for those listening on radio.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oy.

by southsidefan on Jul 2, 2006 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon, Mark
let's shut 'em down.

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunt hits in the first inning
lead to huge innings for Buehrle... I'm thinking of the 7 run affairs with MIN and NYY the last few years.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.
very predictable.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 runs
all we need now is the Zambrano HR.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little humility
is in order.  I called Zambrano, so it is easy pickings today...

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh
That didn't take long

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice call
Buehrle hasn't fooled anyone yet - doing anything they want to do.

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice throw, Pods
Perhaps it's the vantage point from left - Murton's throw was just as far off, just to the opposite side of home.

We CANNOT hold 'em after we score in the 1st.

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good god
Our starters blow now.  Just wait until they get back to facing real teams.

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good work Buehrle
NICE JOB
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I felt more confident yesterday
It will be more difficult to pound out hits against Zambrano.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know
Maybe he should stop grooving them first pitches.

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you Mark
Get out of here
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neifi?
Fucking Neifi Perez?  Are you kidding?

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

by southsidefan on Jul 2, 2006 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.
With Zambrano on the hill this ones over.

Thanks for ruining my Sunday Mark, you ass.

WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, we beat the Twins
after 7 in 1st.  It's the Flubs - just means we have to watch the whole thing.

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...
Carlos Silva or Carlos Zambrano....
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twins v. Scrubs
and, most importantly, it's the Sox!

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No chance
No way we scored 7 runs on Zambrano.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
Still plenty of time to get 6 runs off the cubs.
AIM: shaftr01

XBL: TheMattressMan

by shaftr on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

First pitches
Murton, Perez and Zambrano all hacking at the first pitch.  Mark is an idiot.

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark
just went from 5th to 15th in AL ERA

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well
he was only that high because of his nature allowing only 'unearned' runs to score. He was lower in RA.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha
Good point.  Maybe he's too dumb to understand how unearned runs work and thought they'd be unearned after the error they charged to Mackowiak.

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Zambrano
but he's a real good pitcher and Dusty will leave him in there forever.  This game's over.

by Bull Pain on Jul 2, 2006 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow
I think Hawk has a valid point about keeping the pitcher in the bullpen on the road. They get cold sitting for a long time on the bench wait for the top of the first to end, but with that said, after the first few batters Mark should have settled in. It could be that his working quickly worked against him this time.  
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

First pitch
Mark doesn't have a good enough fastball to lay it right down the middle of the plate.  He has a changeup, yes?  My gosh, fucking USE IT.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
unless Ponson is thrown in - then you've got yourself a win-win!

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really....
....I think Mark will head to StL in free agency anyway. As good a MB is, I wouldn't be adverse to trading him and getting more advanced prospects than just draft picks.

Reyes, a competent bullpen arm, and a decent prospect of some sort would about parallel the Mulder trade and would work for me.

I'm not sure now is the time to do it, since you'd hope MB would contribute more this season than Reyes would. But today doesn't help m confidence in him...

by hitlesswonder on Jul 2, 2006 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Only The 2nd Inning
We can come back. It's been done before. Never give up!!

You guys are starting to sound like Cub fans.

by daimon9 on Jul 2, 2006 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now THAT hurts.
Just tired of El Marko coughing up the lead in the 1st inning.

"And it ain't over now!"

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
Pittsburg did take one, and almost took two, so I can't really complain too much about that.  I really wish Minny would stop winning, though.  Liriano is on the bump today, so the brooms will be out in full force up in the Twinkydome.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We won't tire Z out
since he goes 130 pitches sometimes, but we need to get into his fiery, unbalanced head to make it go today.  Otherwise, yes, we are toast.

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Zambrano making this look easy.
Consecutive 1-2-3 innings?

But yeah - we're gonna rock him... /sarcasm

WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man...I love Scanners...
If we don't get anyone in with 1st and 2nd 1 out I may throw it in and watch that instead of the rest of the game
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 2, 2006 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mark ain't got it today at all
if the Sox weren't so adept at coming back in games, I'd say get Politte some work
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...lose to D-Rays, KC, Pitts, to Cubs...
...can anyone say second place?  Gotta be a mental thing.  They really SUCK today.

by solbro on Jul 2, 2006 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle gives up 7 in the first
and the game will still be over in 2 hours.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mack
I understand you need to be agressive, but Z just walked two, why not take a strike?
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Twins (of late) & Tigers
Remind me a lot more of last year's Sox from the give up very few runs and just score one more than the other guys. Our offense may well carry us to the playoffs, but I think we really need to get the starting pitching back to make a real push at a repeat.

by Toonderstrook on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bah, that AB might have gotten Z on track
He was on the verge of his 3rd straight walk, but Mack couldn't do shit.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT URIBE
THAT IS HUGE
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juan!
A mancrush on Crede??? Nah.

by mlaird on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

10-9-6...
Head explosion imminent...

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Juan hits a homer...
and I'm not going to watch Scanners yet...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 2, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dialogue between my friend and I
Me:  Uribe has been hot lately, so I feel pretty good about this.
Friend:  3 run shot?
Me:  I wouldn't be surprised, he's a good fastball hitter.

< 3 Run Homer >

AIM: shaftr01

XBL: TheMattressMan

by shaftr on Jul 2, 2006 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am slurping Hawk and DJ today
They were correct, let Z walk a few and then he'll give up a big hit.
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not usually one to say this
but AJ's AB was pretty critical that inning.  Z threw his first two pitches at 98 to AJ, but with no movement -- he wanted to blow it by him.  That messed him up until the Mackowiak AB.  Luckily Juan was able to capitalize on a first pitch right down broadway.  Biggest inning of the game right here for Buehrle.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I so agree
mark needs to put the brakes on here
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

christ almighty......
with fans like some of the posters, who needs opponents? why not throw some trash on the field too?

URIBE!! now we're back in it! germans bombing pearl harbor, indeed.

seriously, all the vitriol on the boards is why looking at BCB was so funny the past couple of days. let's not give them the same satisfaction.

by thatshortkid on Jul 2, 2006 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh, and I know we Sox fans AREN'T supposed
to "scoreboard watch" but the Bucs just scored 2 to make 4-2

scoreboard watching is part of the fun of baseball

Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pierre owns us
What the hell he has to hit .200 points higher against us than the rest of the league.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1 on - 2 out DLee up
Huge out here for Mark, if they score it hurts real bad.  Keep the momentum.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a good time to complain about Juan?
Why can't he just hit like this ALL THE TIME!!!?

by defensive indifference on Jul 2, 2006 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

huge caught stealing
mark needs to battle
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice inning Mark
Let's get a run or two.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

en fuego!!!
OK, I'm back,

now let's get some more runs!

HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Might have been better
to put Crede at third and Cintron in for Gooch.  Gooch doesn't look real comfortable against Zambrano.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

crede
1-18 vz zambrano
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's why
Ozzie is managing and I'm on my couch.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ball 4!
com' on paulie!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Paulie hadn't struck out ever
against zambrano until today
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was an awful AB by PK
Very bad.

JD had the right approach, just missed it.

Hold 'em down Mark.

WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

An Error
It's Buehrle's chance to crap himself.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh noes!
an error. Pretend you didn't see that, Mark.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gon't unravel mark
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't unravel mark
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no.................
3 on, 0 out...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just caught wind...
of the Andruw Jones talk.  Eek.  That sounds like a bad idea.  Someone just put a poll up about it in a diary.

by defensive indifference on Jul 2, 2006 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

better take him out?
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle
Gonna let this one blow up.  Murton could end it right here.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Angel Fucking Pagan
MVP candidate, ehh Mark?

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 2:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

when did bmac last pitch?
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

crap................................
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.
what an ace!
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YOU BUEHRLE
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU ASSHOLE
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks cheat
you should play the friggin lotto today
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What is up
with this team and playing down to its competition?

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why coop/ozzie don't go out there?
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i was optimistic
but if you give up a 3 run homer to Neifi Perez the game is over.
AIM: shaftr01

XBL: TheMattressMan

by shaftr on Jul 2, 2006 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle is seriously a joke.
I mean you can say he shits the bed with errors but literally EVERY SINGLE TIME something goes wrong he shits himself.  It is beyond ridiculous.

Detroit destroying Pittsburgh.  Back to 2.5.  Yuck.

WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope we get
our starting pitching together again before Boston comes into town.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly...
How many starters do you have full faith in when they take the mound?
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jose-mark-freddy
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santana
AIM: i2ockbotm

by 3E8 on Jul 2, 2006 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jay.....
...is that you? looking over your comments, they seem to go extreme in either direction depending on how the game is going. very windsock-ish.

by thatshortkid on Jul 2, 2006 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this team is starting to look
like the 2000 club even more and more and maybe even a little like the Red Sox of last year...a lot of mashing and adequate pitching

at least the bullpen (sans cliffy) is hot right now, which begs the question, why was buerhle still pitching here? m

mark was still giving up hits and if he holds them we have a chance (not saying we still don't but our win probability has to be very very low right now)

Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 2:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck WGN
They've screwed up with their scoreboard thing in the early going, and nthey've missed first pitch twice.  Fuck that, get back to the fucking game.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 2:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Mark was showcasing himself
for the Cardinals. He could fit in really well with their staff right now.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle
After this start, he really doesn't deserve to make the trip to Pittsburg.  I know the teams/players are already picked, but he shouldn't be an All-Star.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No doubt about it
But he's most likely a lock.  Which sucks.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe riske should have entered 1 inning earlier
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thome hitting for riske
and 'serv' 'em up' cliff is getting ready...

THOMER!

HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yes...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Politte coming in
Ozzie has officially raised the white flag.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

THOMER!
#27
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

/ice cream cone
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All right
NOW it's time for Zambrano's head to explode.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

infield double?
and I'd like a replay of the collision afterwards.

by twoeightnine on Jul 2, 2006 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

time to get in Ozzie's ass
charting trends is a job of the coaching staff and manager to follow...after cintron's error, knowing mark has been awful in situations of that ilk, ozzie should been on his way to the mound

oz has proved he'll stick with his pitchers if their getting the job done, but mark clearly was having a tuff time...no need to save the bullpen here

Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a little more
you have to stop the bleeding where it was...ozzie stayed with mark too long....riske wouldn' have been nearly as risky in that situation
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
Whoever called for that pitch to go outside ought to be hit upside the head.  Letting PK extend his hands when he kept hitting that inside sinker foul is beyond me.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 3:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The ump should be shot
He couldn't hit that pitch with an oar.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the pitches
and the MO is gone.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
That's pretty much what we expect from Politte.  

He's done.  He shouldn't pitch in a Sox uniform again.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it will be pretty much lopsided
I can't imagine anyone voting for politte...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't mean for politte
i meant a countdown timer, with a "doesn't go" final option.

sidenote: why no tags allowed in the subject? i tried a <i></i>

by thatshortkid on Jul 2, 2006 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

done
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, it's cliff...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Politte
Is done, bring back Tracey.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The countdown to Politte's DFA has begun
He won't make it to the trade deadline. I'll be surprised if he last two more weeks.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've seen enough
Politte has no fucking purpose on this team.  He is worthless.  Get his stupid ass out of here and bring up Tracey.
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade question
It would take ___ and ____ to acquire Scot Shields.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

more than we want to give?
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't know exactly how to fill in those blanks
but I think the Angels know how valuable Shields is.  You'd have to pay a premium for him.  I don't know if the kind of guys we'd be willing to give up for him would get the job done.  Broadway and somebody?  I wouldn't want to give up Fields and the Angels don't really need hitting prospects.  I imagine they'd want pitching.

by Ryno on Jul 2, 2006 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They want a big bat
and I don't think that's something we can offer, other than Fields.

Fields and Broadway/Lummy for Shields I'd say, but they're looking for something more established. And shields wouldn't be dealt until the 31st just to make sure they are out of it in the AL West.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jul 2, 2006 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a fair estimation
and I'm probably not making a Fields/Broadway for Shields trade.  Trading that much for a guy who's not even going to pitch 100 innings a year usually isn't a good thing.

Who knows, maybe Hermy can have a medical miracle and give us a month or two of his 2005 self. :dream

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I'm probably dreaming
Plus, besides the Koch/Foulke trade, it's usually not Kenny's MO to grab a high profile reliever.  He grabs relievers 'under the radar', ala Marte, Cotts, Jenks, Shingo, and to a lesser extent, Hermy and Politte.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What is Ozzie saying?
"Don't worry, Cliff.  They won't hit you this hard in Charlotte.  And if they do, not many people will see it."

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Politte
I think I speak for all White Sox fans when I thank you for your amazing contribution to our team last year. This year, however, please go away.

by quartz77277 on Jul 2, 2006 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

politte should be at 22 IP, 21 runs allowed
...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and era is at 8 now
7.94...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JOE!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny
It was the Cubs fan next to her that actually caught the ball off the bounce. He handed it to her right away.

by twoeightnine on Jul 2, 2006 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With this offense and bullpen
Ozzie has to have a shorter leash with the starters so we can keep it closer. And never send Politte out there again.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if riske had come in right after the error
and cliff had stayed away from the field, this would have been a sure win

not that it won't be!

HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and tadahito goes yard!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know the rules don't call for it...
but shouldn't whoever ends it for the Cubs get a save even if they're up by 5 or 6? Just on account of their being the cubs?
A mancrush on Crede??? Nah.

by mlaird on Jul 2, 2006 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't tell me that we can't score 3 runs
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, mark takes this one
(I'm not saying it's over yet either) but reserve a little blame for Ozzie for this one...I hope he learns a little something from this one...like when to pull a struggling pitcher
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 2, 2006 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He won't change in that regard
Leaving the starters in is Ozzie's most steadfast managerial technique.
AIM: i2ockbotm

by 3E8 on Jul 2, 2006 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Rodman
Golden Palace.net commercial is really creepy.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Guess we'll just
have to hit out another granni,

eh no sweat

by Hangwoofem on Jul 2, 2006 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF
Game over cause Politte is still in.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It sucks
because I actually like Politte.  He seems like a good team guy.  He just doesn't have anything.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I most certainly feel bad for Cliff, and he seems like a nice guy, but if you don't have it you don't have it.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mas Cliff?
???

by Hangwoofem on Jul 2, 2006 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Break their hearts twice?
Bases loaded, one out for the Bucs.  

Strikeout, and a groundout.  Ugh.  Ugh.  Ugh.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And we now see...
why the bucs are the worst team in baseball.
Bases juiced, 1 out, down by 1 and they lose on a strikeout and groundout to pitcher.
Sidenote, Ozzie will never learn about taking a pitcher out.  He lives and dies by the sword, get used to it.
GO SOX!

by rhythm on Jul 2, 2006 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the boxscore...
Angel Pagan, two hits.  Ronny Cedeno, two hits.  Juan Pierre, two hits.  

Scratch, three hits for Pagan.  Bye, Cliff.

by CWSKeith on Jul 2, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea adios cliff
chrisake

by Hangwoofem on Jul 2, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And there we go
I still won't write this team off, but we are just gift-wrapping this one.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's pointless now
But why leave Politte there in to embarrass himself?

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chuck Norris will come out
and give us a 5-run homer

by Hangwoofem on Jul 2, 2006 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF
  1. Why is Politte in to start the inning?
  2. Why is Politte still on the team?
WEE WILLIE

by WHarris1 on Jul 2, 2006 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm in disbelief
Ozzie see Pagan light Cliff up last inning and leaves him in to get lit up again.  I blame ozzie as much as cliff.
GO SOX!

by rhythm on Jul 2, 2006 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oops
that was supposed to be Ozzie SAW Cliff get lit up
GO SOX!

by rhythm on Jul 2, 2006 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and this ballgamwe is over
thanks ozzie...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jul 2, 2006 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh
11 Runs and no W, thanks for ruining my Sunday MArk and Cliff.

by Gangstalicious on Jul 2, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like
Sometimes Ozzie is just satisfied to win 2 of 3 and goes out of his way not to use up the bullpen.  This was a winnable ballgem despite the start.

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you can't use up your bullpen
for every potentially winnable cause. heck, with this team, anytime is a potential winner. it's a judgment call. we've got a tough stretch coming up and, the way our next two starters have been pitching, i'd say our pen is going to get a workout.

by larry on Jul 2, 2006 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know
And that's why I'm conflicted about being too critical of Ozzie in these situations.  He seems to have a good handle on the "long view," ie, keeping players fresh, not wearing out the bullpen, getting players' confidence up, etc.  

by the wolf on Jul 2, 2006 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I was surprised it was as close as it was...
with the poor pitching performance by buehrle and 2 errors.  Hopefully the Sox play some better ball now that they're playing the AL again.
GO SOX!

by rhythm on Jul 2, 2006 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Horsebleep game
any time you give up double digits to the Flubs/anyone.  I apprciate the comment about us and the 2005 Red Sox being mashers with questionable pitching.  Seems Coop has done a great job with relievers this year (except our favorite, Cliffie) and now needs to spend a little time with starters (ala Count yesterday throwing on the side with glowing progress).  Not comfortable with stating staff.  Hopefully the 2nd 1/2 will bring good things.

by winningugly on Jul 2, 2006 6:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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