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Spring Training Game #16: White Sox @ Rangers -- Gavin Floyd vs. Vicente Padilla

Acmilan_tiny by The Wizard on in Game Threads

Time: 3:05 p.m. CT, Radio: MLB.radio (Live Boxscore; MLB Gameday)

Sox: Owens, CF; Ozuna, SS; Thome, DH; Konerko, 1B; Fields, 3B; Ramirez, 2B; Quentin, LF; Anderson, RF; Phillips, C

Rangers: Kinsler, 2B; Catalanotto, LF; Young, SS; Hamilton, DH; Byrd, CF; Blalock, 3B; Broussard, 1B; Murphy, RF; Saltalamacchia, C

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Ozzie on Aaron Poreda:

"If it was my decision, believe me, I would bring him up here right away,'' Guillen said. Poreda is a 21-year-old starting pitcher selected by the Sox on the first round of last year's amateur draft. Facing a team of the Colorado Rockies' top prospects Monday, the 6-foot-6, 240-pound lefty wowed Guillen while pitching 2 scoreless innings. Poreda didn't allow a hit while striking out three and walking one. "That's a real No. 1 (starter),'' Guillen said. "You will see him here pretty soon. Hopefully he stays healthy.'' Poreda, a University of San Francisco product, pitched for Advanced Rookie Great Falls last year after signing with the White Sox. He was 4-0 with a 1.17 ERA in 12 games (8 starts) and has quickly emerged as the Sox' No. 1 prospect. "This kid's got a good arm and it's exciting to see him pitch,'' Guillen said. "He might pitch in a (Cactus League) game if we need it to get his feet wet a little bit, see how he feels.''
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Ozuna batting second -- even better...
I can't wait to see Thome finish with 85 RBI's.

by SSH2005 on Mar 11, 2008 2:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Podsednik redux.
We shall see.
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 11, 2008 2:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone have the link
to where Ozzie/Kenny (Can't remember who it was) said Fields has the leg up on the 3rd base job, or that Fields was the starter? I can't find it.

by Tony82087 on Mar 11, 2008 2:48 PM CDT   0 recs

"Fields has the leg up on the 3rd base "
Marking his territory will not keep him on the roster.
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 11, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is a frightening defensive lineup
Is it Sunday? Thanks gosh its ST
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 2:52 PM CDT   0 recs

Wow...
The video of ProBatter is one of the coolest things I have ever seen.
" You might be impressed with your analysis, but I'm not. Don't waste anymore of my time."

by BoKnows on Mar 11, 2008 2:59 PM CDT   0 recs

I want one!
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 3:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't see it
what is it?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Programable pitching machine
With a screen to simulate the pitcher throwing it to you -
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 4:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

cooool
how much for one o' them?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Go here... they'll set you up
http://www.probatter.com/
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 4:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, so that's what they're called
I saw one of those at the Louisville Slugger museum in Louisville, those things are awesome!  You can't bat at the museum, but you stand behind the catcher as close as an ump and select which pitcher you want to see.  Fucking Roger Clemens is like a locomotive coming at you, 60'6" is WAAAAY too close.
"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 11, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've hit against one of these
It was 10+ years ago, in Cinci, or Atlanta, I forget.

It wasn't programmable beyond speed though. And teh pitcher was always Nolan Ryan.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 11, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Look at BA saying Im not dead yet
The spring machine continues!
Have I told you Jerry Owens sucks? I have? Let me tell you again!

by Tdogg on Mar 11, 2008 3:25 PM CDT   0 recs

2 run shot
But what about getting on base?
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 3:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

At least he didn't clog them up.
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 11, 2008 3:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn
Beat me to it.

by BustedFlush on Mar 11, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sigh
Floyd is in midseason form.
Have I told you Jerry Owens sucks? I have? Let me tell you again!

by Tdogg on Mar 11, 2008 3:34 PM CDT   0 recs

So you can rip on Gavin Floyd...
but you get upset when people rip on Jerry Owens?

Hilarious and hypocritical, at the same time.

by SSH2005 on Mar 11, 2008 3:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But look at the positive
He's only given up 2 hits
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 3:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am a Floyd fan
and therefore disappointed he is not doing better. How does that compare with you saying 100 times that Owens sucks?

Make your point a few times and move on till something happens. Must this be said to you forever until it sinks in? And its not just me saying it.

Have I told you Jerry Owens sucks? I have? Let me tell you again!

by Tdogg on Mar 11, 2008 3:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't obey your rules, Mr. WSI Posting Police...
so I will say it again and again...

JERRY OWENS SUCKS!!!
JERRY OWENS SUCKS!!!
JERRY OWENS SUCKS!!!

Haha.

Ozzie and Kenny never make any mistakes. I am a posting homer robot from WSI.

by SSH2005 on Mar 11, 2008 4:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you should just put that as your sig
that would put tdogg in his place

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol
It would and it would also add some originality. Something SSH lacks. By the way I have no idea what WSI is.
Have I told you Jerry Owens sucks? I have? Let me tell you again!

by Tdogg on Mar 11, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why do you
keep saying something that we all agree with? This is like telling a group of democrats over and over again that George Bush sucks. It just doesn't make sense to argue a position that everybody agrees with over and over over again.

by bhoov on Mar 11, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's called
"Preaching to the choir."
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 11, 2008 4:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

so you really see no alternative
to being either a deluded homer or your position?  because I see no difference. positions are exactly the same, except for the noun you fill in the blank with.  hasn't ideology been discredited thoroughly enough for you?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

All in all, how was floyd?
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 11, 2008 4:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ball fly
ball fly far. where ball fly far, floyd should not throw ball.

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He sounded fine
Except for the HRs. Both sounded like bombs.
Have I told you Jerry Owens sucks? I have? Let me tell you again!

by Tdogg on Mar 11, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

More good news for Kenny and the gang...
Rick Porcello was perfect for two innings, striking out one, in relief Tuesday as a Tigers split-squad beat the Indians 4-2.
Porcello is proving to be awfully polished for a 19-year-old. He has gone six up, six down in two of his three outings. In the other, he allowed one run and walked two in 1 2/3 innings against the Pirates.

by SSH2005 on Mar 11, 2008 3:46 PM CDT   0 recs

Quit reminding us
At least Poreda aint too shabby himself.
How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 11, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i'm curious
how many dead horses are you responsible for beating?

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Honestly, let the Porcello issue RIP
and dont worry about Jesse till his first groundout on opening day.
How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 11, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if only I could read such posts
like the dead horse feels the beatings
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess anyone who likes good pitchers and
good pitching in general.
How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 11, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's me
and, quite frankly, i could not care less how he pitches in B games in ST. the only "news" to care about regarding prospects in ST is whether they injure themselves. otherwise, waste of time.

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

BA
Do you think we can get someone to write a Brian Nikola Anderson puff piece?

I don't care if he can only hit in spring.  He's killing the ball.  

Man, I'm pulling for him....

" You might be impressed with your analysis, but I'm not. Don't waste anymore of my time."

by BoKnows on Mar 11, 2008 4:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Isn't the
'he can only hit in spring' a tad unfair? Yeah, he tanked last season after having a great spring. But he had, what, 27 ABs? I don't remember how he did in the spring of 2006; he struggled, as we all know, in his first MLB season though. Would it be better for BA not to hit in spring?

I just am having trouble understanding what is expected of BA. He's doing what he should be doing, and not just off of low A-ball pitchers.

by HulkSmash on Mar 11, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you're right. it is unfair.
we're completing ignoring his prior history. it should be "he can only hit in arizona".

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wonder
How would he have done if he went instead of Young... guess its all meaningless thought at this point.
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hardee-har har Larry
What prior history? One bad season, and 27 ABs the next. What's to say that, given the opportunity, BA wouldn't have followed up last year's spring with improved 2007, had he been given regular ABs? I don't see compelling enough evidence based on one bad season, a good spring, an incomplete, and another good spring (thus far) to warrant such a blanket assesment.

by HulkSmash on Mar 11, 2008 4:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you realize
that it's a joke? one of a number of running jokes on here?

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know, I know
Thank you for taking on the yoke of modulation. But I think some truly believe (colinj--which is fine, interpret evidence as you will) that BA is simply incapable of hitting major league pitching. I think he can, and that's that.

by HulkSmash on Mar 11, 2008 4:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course he can hit Big league pitching
but hasnt done it consistently and likely wont ever do so in a white Sox uniform as long as Jesse Golden Boy Owens can still run.
How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 11, 2008 4:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OmnipotentGrab...
re: your sig and WU's Sox Fan Diary...

I fucked a nut for a year and a half. That's the best sex around!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 11, 2008 6:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bi-polar women rock!
I was seeing one for a year, what an adventure - the woman was a sex machine!
"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 11, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes indeed...
She was hell to deal with when she had panic attacks... and could be quite a force when she drank... but damn... when the manic part came out she was a sex machine!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 12, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think my rhetoric outpaces my certainty
Someone with better credentials as a hitting instructor could certainly convince me otherwise, but I'm going on what I see and comparing it to how I think a swing can look to be successful.  
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah
whether BA can play in the majors is a topic we've all discussed many times. like colin, i haven't seen anything this spring that suggests anything's changed. offspeed, low, and away and BA will swing. and miss. i'm not sure what you're staking his ability to hit on. faith and hope is fine, of course.

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 4:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No hope and faith at all
It's simple fact that, to get to where BA is, he has had to learn and adjust for years; for nearly his entire career, he's had to adjust to pitchers. He wouldn't be here--or near to the MLB--if he couldn't.

We all know BA's problem. BA knows his problem. But mix in the facts that the Sox have a piss-poor hitting coach/staff and his personal turmoil from the past year, and injury, and you can see why he hasn't mastered this adjustment.

Maybe he won't--but I'm not going to say that he can't.

by HulkSmash on Mar 11, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this is a bit more than an "adjustment"
all those factors are nice. but plenty of players simply don't get it, even with the best of circumstances. organized baseball is littered with them.

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And many do!
(Trying to keep the glass half full here...)
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 5:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

many is a relative term
most of that many would have done it by now.

by larry on Mar 11, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

See... there you go again
Trying to empty the glass again!!!
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 11, 2008 5:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe, maybe not
fine, there's a chance that anderson might be able to hit major league pitching consistently someday.

but that chance isn't a result of the fact that he's had to adjust to pitching his entire life. there is a reason that lots of kids who play little league don't make their high school teams, why some great high school players go undrafted and unsigned and can't hack it in college ball, why most college players can't hack it in the minors, and why a great number of minor leaguers don't become contributors at the major league level. everybody has a ceiling, and anderson's looks more and more like the imaginary yet legendary AAAA level.

"They say that blood is thicker than water. What we have is thicker than blood."

by Toonderstrook on Mar 11, 2008 5:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a fine point
but it's naive to say that learning to adjust your game has nothing to do with maturing as a player. I've seen it with my own eyes, the results of players who can't adjust, who mash in high school ball but can't clear the IF in college. Yes, it has to do with ceilings, but it also has to do with adapting your game to the skill level around you. Some players can do it, some can't. That's the way it goes.

by HulkSmash on Mar 12, 2008 10:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't I hate you
over this subject??? The best we can do is let Brian do what he is doing... package him, uribe, and Broadway for Brian Roberts. We could also add to that package and I wouldn't be all that upset. Then Quinten could get a legitimate shot at the outfield either beating out or sharing time with Owens. I would love to see Owens start and provide a spark... but if he is going to be injured all year we might as well make a run at Roberts right?
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by Soulja Boy on Mar 12, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey Baltimore...
Please take our trash for your All-Star second baseman.

K?  Thanks.

P.S. -- Please be sure to feed Uribe plenty of Krispie Kremes.  He especially likes them before he goes to bed.

Ozzie and Kenny never make any mistakes. I am a posting homer robot from WSI.

by SSH2005 on Mar 12, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My point about BA
is he is doing exceptionally well this spring. If KW can unload Crede for some decent value in return we could possible center a deal around BA and Uribe. JU was a starting ss for a world series winner. Brian can be advertised as getting over the hump. What ever we get in return for Crede could make that deal possible.
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by Soulja Boy on Mar 12, 2008 11:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahahaha
Uribe is good by association now?
" You might be impressed with your analysis, but I'm not. Don't waste anymore of my time."

by BoKnows on Mar 12, 2008 12:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont know if you watched the series
or not but he was extremely valuable to that team. I think he hit like .340 or some shit with almost as many rbi's as Crede and Dye. Not to mention big hits to lead off innings. And his all star defense.
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by Soulja Boy on Mar 12, 2008 3:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We should probably sign him long-term
Since he played well for 4 games.
" You might be impressed with your analysis, but I'm not. Don't waste anymore of my time."

by BoKnows on Mar 12, 2008 4:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Great suggestion
BA would fit nicely in CF.  Only problem is that the O's traded for uber-prospect A.Jones.

Other than that, the trade idea is flawless.

" You might be impressed with your analysis, but I'm not. Don't waste anymore of my time."

by BoKnows on Mar 12, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

his deficiencies with the bat are plain to me
he may be doing the right things, but he sucks as a major league hitter.  He lacks bat speed, makes awkward swings with regularity and the same holes in his swing are there.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He will continue to struggle in the bigs
unless a real hitting coach can help him. Quick someone call Walt Hriniak!
How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 11, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Life is unfair.
" You might be impressed with your analysis, but I'm not. Don't waste anymore of my time."

by BoKnows on Mar 11, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

btw this is c/p'd isn't it?
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 11, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs