South Side Sox - All PostsThe best in White Sox coverage since 2005!https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/35559/southsidesox-fave.jpg2024-03-18T19:22:06-05:00http://www.southsidesox.com/rss/current/2024-03-18T19:22:06-05:002024-03-18T19:22:06-05:00Guardians 8, White Sox 5: UGLY
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<p>Don’t let the final score fool you: This one wasn’t close</p> <p class="p--has-dropcap" id="avtKfm">Before the team took the field in Glendale this afternoon, the Pale Hose announced that Garrett Crochet has been named the <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> Opening Day starter. While this will be Crochet’s first career major league start, he has been electric so far this spring. He has appeared in four spring games with one start, allowing seven hits, no runs, no walks, 12 strikeouts, and a 0.78 WHIP in nine innings pitched.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Got the nod for March 28 <a href="https://t.co/GnuU5h8npf">pic.twitter.com/GnuU5h8npf</a></p>— Chicago White Sox (@whitesox) <a href="https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/1769799510769754237?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p id="C0vOd4">Congrats to Garrett! Go get ’em!</p>
<p id="4U4dZc">Reaction on social media was mixed:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">We as <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhiteSox</a> fans just ain't prepared for an opening day starter with plans to go 3 innings or 60 pitches, a new world imo. <a href="https://t.co/xQ5HoYoXUE">https://t.co/xQ5HoYoXUE</a></p>— BeefLoaf (@MrDelicious13) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrDelicious13/status/1769804629326352869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p id="ro53Mg">It’s worth noting that only nine times in major league history has a pitcher’s first career start been on Opening Day.</p>
<p id="viIDnC">I myself find the decision to be curious. Most of the time this dumb org can’t get out of its own way. Let’s hope this isn’t par for the course.</p>
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<p id="SSs2Lc">Speaking of not being able to get out of their own way, there supposedly was a baseball game played in Glendale today. And once again, it was probably a good thing that no one outside of Camelback Ranch had any way to watch or listen. </p>
<p id="AVWwug">Following the action on Twitter and Gameday, it was ugly. </p>
<p id="CgE0NI">First pitch was at 1:06 p.m. local time. It was 6-0 Cleveland shortly thereafter.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Guardians have seemingly given a rude welcome to Drew Thorpe, but with no broadcasts, I'm not sure if I can trust that it actually happened.</p>— Ian Eskridge (@dailywhitesox) <a href="https://twitter.com/dailywhitesox/status/1769823618182078700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thorpe giving up 5 runs in 5 minutes</p>— (5) Jacklyn Hilligoss (@JackHill43) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackHill43/status/1769819192683819246?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Thorpe getting shelled in his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Whitesox?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Whitesox</a> debut</p>— Borna Nazari (@thehogwatch) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehogwatch/status/1769823098600046674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p id="Gq1JoA">The top of the first went something like this: leadoff double, single, double, single, homer, homer. It was 6-0, Cleveland before Thorpe recorded a single out. OUCH.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Obviously not how Drew Thorpe envisioned his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhiteSox</a> org. debut (1 2/3 IP, 7 ER) after being acquired as the centerpiece of the Dylan Cease deal, but a look at his pair of strikeouts: <a href="https://t.co/dDM40jI1ET">pic.twitter.com/dDM40jI1ET</a></p>— Jesse Borek (@JesseABorek) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseABorek/status/1769826441091563828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p id="dH9u1V">In the top of the second, Thorpe didn’t fare much better.</p>
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<p id="jAaK6C">Make that 7-0, Guardians. </p>
<p id="KMinu3">Thorpe, who was replaced by Yoelvín Silven with two outs in the second inning, returned to start the third. He promptly gave up a double to José Tena, who scored Cleveland’s eighth run on a Brayan Rocchio RBI ground out: 8-0, Guardians. </p>
<p id="eo38uT">So much for the Pale Hose keeping that spring run differential from ballooning again.</p>
<p id="hVzFgg">Thorpe’s line in his White Sox debut: 1 2⁄3 IP, 10 H, 8 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 3 HR. Woof. </p>
<p id="Max3Nq">While the results of Thorpe’s outing are pretty meaningless in the big picture, it’s not a great look after all of the talk of him looking great this spring. Let’s hope this quashes talk of him making it to the bigs any time soon. He’s only had a cup of coffee in Double-A in the Padres org, so let’s give the kid a chance to earn his way up instead of rushing him up while chasing a quick-fix rebuild.</p>
<p id="pXwXcx">In the bottom of the fourth, Andrew Vaughn led off with a double and would score on a Zach Remillard single to trim the lead to 8-1, Guardians.</p>
<p id="cdeYH9">Cleveland starter Tanner Bibee held the feckless Pale Hose offense to one run on five hits over 4 1⁄3 innings.</p>
<p id="Kytdzc">The Sox would cut the lead down to 8-3 in the seventh inning. After mass substitutions, Colson Montgomery and Danny Mendick walked in back-to-back at-bats, and both would score on a Chuckie Robinson single. </p>
<p id="rB1RHh">Robinson is not likely to make the Opening Day roster, but I hope the Sox can keep him around. He might not amount to anything, but he’s been a fun follow this spring, and I’d much rather see him get starts instead of Max Stassi or the corpse of Martín Maldonado.</p>
<p id="KWrEqN">The South Siders would tack on two more on a Brett Phillips double that made the game 8-5 in the bottom of the eighth. There would be no more scoring, and don’t let the final score fool you: This loss was never in doubt. </p>
<p id="gAwPZH">On that note, some choices were made here, and not good ones.</p>
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<p>For Camelback Ranch eyes only ...</p> <p id="YftoZb">Happy Monday, friends! </p>
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<p id="vyTEG6">Hahahah, or not. Happy? Yeah, right. I saw snow flurries out my window this morning — on the 18th day of March — MARCH! How the bloody hell does that make for a happy Monday? UGH. </p>
<p id="wC5UEs">Do you know what <strong>would</strong> make this a happy Monday? Watching Drew Thorpe, the newest <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> pitching prospect, make his debut in Glendale against those loathsome <a href="https://www.coveringthecorner.com/">Cleveland Guardians</a>. Well, because, of course, no Monday can really be all that good; we can’t even get a radio broadcast from the desert to keep us warm on this cold and snowy Monday afternoon. Sadly, this one is for Camelback Ranch eyes only. Seriously, why can’t we have nice things? </p>
<p id="goWOcK">Opening Day can’t get here soon enough ...</p>
<p id="30eRFI">In roster move news:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhiteSox</a> make one roster move: <a href="https://t.co/rmY2t6WopM">pic.twitter.com/rmY2t6WopM</a></p>— Chicago White Sox (@whitesox) <a href="https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/1769784750187651293?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p id="cegB0e">Here’s how the Sox line them up behind Thorpe:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Set for baseball at Camelback Ranch <a href="https://t.co/hTWIqdR0uK">pic.twitter.com/hTWIqdR0uK</a></p>— Chicago White Sox (@whitesox) <a href="https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/1769794393215484147?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p id="lghgpl">And for Stephen Vogt’s Guardians:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heading to the part of Chicago that looks an awful lot like Glendale, Arizona today.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GuardsSpring?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GuardsSpring</a> <a href="https://t.co/x17ehHAj1O">pic.twitter.com/x17ehHAj1O</a></p>— Cleveland Guardians (@CleGuardians) <a href="https://twitter.com/CleGuardians/status/1769755648697176542?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2024</a>
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<p class="c-end-para" id="Wgc85z">Check back after the game for another recap of action none of us could see or hear. Woo!</p>
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<p>On this day eight years ago, dumb things got much dumber for the South Siders</p> <h4 id="qIkRz8"><strong>1942</strong></h4>
<p id="6p5Vxh"><a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> manager <strong>Jimmy Dykes </strong>granted Black players Jackie Robinson and Nate Moreland a tryout with the White Sox, while the Pale Hose conducted spring training in Pasadena, Calif. Neither player made the cut.</p>
<p id="U0wAui">After also failing to make the <a href="https://www.overthemonster.com/">Boston Red Sox</a> after a tryout, Robinson was signed to play for the Kansas City Monarchs three years later, becoming an All-Star as a rookie and breaking the color barrier in MLB in 1947. Moreland had pitched in 15 games for the Baltimore Elite Giants of the Negro Leagues in 1940, but would pitch in just one more Negro League game after his tryout with Chicago.</p>
<p id="LAH1Tf">Interestingly, the White Sox were on the brink of a trade to bring Robinson to the White Sox in 1955, but the <a href="https://www.redreporter.com/">Cincinnati Reds</a> claimed him on trade waivers, nixing the deal.</p>
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<h4 id="yn6yse"><strong>1964</strong></h4>
<p id="MhyDDJ">The <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> purchased the contract of veteran pitcher <strong>Don Mossi</strong> from the Tigers for $20,000. Mossi<strong> </strong>would have a spectacular season for the White Sox — who lost the pennant by one game — going 3-1 with seven saves and an ERA of 2.92. Mossi teamed up with<strong> Hoyt Wilhelm</strong> and <strong>Eddie Fisher</strong> to give the club the best bullpen in the league.</p>
<p id="ZZjlNm">At the end of the year, however, Mossi was released.</p>
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<h4 id="DTJ9z3"><strong>1981</strong></h4>
<p id="503h92"><strong>Carlton Fisk</strong> officially and finally signed a free agent deal with the White Sox, beginning the process of turning a purse-string organization into a competitive major league franchise. The All-Star catcher and future Hall-of-Famer got his free agency after the <a href="https://www.overthemonster.com/">Red Sox</a> did not tender him a contract by the CBA’s required date. Immediately, White Sox co-owner <strong>Eddie Einhorn</strong> and GM <strong>Roland Hemond</strong> jumped at the chance to get a player of Fisk’s caliber on to the team. For more than a week Fisk’s five-year, $2.9 million contract went unsigned, as minor tweaks to the deal continued.</p>
<p id="fBY3ij">Fisk<strong> </strong>would play 13 years on the South Side, make four All-Star teams as a member of the White Sox, and have his No. 72 retired in 1997. At the time he retired, he also held the team record for most home runs, as well as most home runs in MLB history hit by a catcher. His two best seasons were in 1983 (when he rebounded from a very slow start to hit .289 with 26 home runs and 89 RBIs for the Western Division champions, finishing third in the MVP voting) and 1985, his career season (Fisk hit only .238, but blasted 37 home runs with 107 RBIs). </p>
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<h4 id="wMbOej"><strong>2016</strong></h4>
<p id="hxnCje">The ongoing embarrassment that surrounded the retirement of <strong>Adam LaRoche</strong> ended, at least officially, <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/e/11028965">with a statement released by the player</a> explaining his side of the story.</p>
<p id="5fM8fe">Just hours earlier, <strong>Chris Sale </strong>had kicked off what would be an utterly bizarre year for him by <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/e/11027779">speaking out in support of LaRoche</a> — and against his own GM, <strong>Ken Williams</strong>. As South Side Sox’s Josh Nelson wrote in his story on Sale, collectively “the <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/chicago-white-sox">White Sox</a> unlocked a new level of awkwardness by making a dumb situation even dumber.”</p>
<p id="TmvzTD">The crux of the biscuit came down to LaRoche claiming that, contrary to what was promised when he signed with the White Sox, his son Drake recently had been completely banned from spring training — on-field, in locker room, full stop. Williams proffered that he’d spoken to Adam about lessening Drake’s constant presence with the team (as prompted by players like <strong>Jimmy Rollins</strong>, who talked to the GM about this strange, unprofessional and intrusive arrangement), lost his cool when after that he saw Drake <em>on the pitcher’s mound</em> during infield practice and issued a complete ban, then subsequently walked that back somewhat.</p>
<p id="sm4hHS">The 2016 season would end up fairly tainted by the incident, as White Sox stars Sale and <strong>Adam Eaton</strong> lined up in loony support of the LaRoches. Sale saved his greatest embarrassment for later in the year, however, when on July 23 he <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/2016/7/23/12264170/chris-sale-scratched-after-cutting-up-uniforms">shredded 1976 throwback jerseys</a> in the clubhouse with a knife before his scheduled start. </p>
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<p>Nick Nastrini looked good, but of course the Athletics had to tie it up in the ninth inning...</p> <p class="p--has-dropcap" id="Dng1FF">The <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">Chicago White Sox</a> almost got the win after a home run in the top of the ninth, but the <a href="https://www.athleticsnation.com/">Oakland Athletics</a> decided to tie it up in the bottom of the inning, 3-3, and that was that. There are barely any videos or any coverage of today’s game, so bear with me. </p>
<p id="bL3zSn">Good news ... Nick Nastrini came out firing. He even had a pickoff in the bottom of the first inning, after Zack Gelof tried to steal third. Gavin Sheets put the team on the board in the top of the second inning after Eloy Jiménez reached on a fielding error, driving him right in with a double. Nastrini went four innings with three hits, no runs, two walks, and two strikeouts. Hopefully we see more and more of him as the No. 8 prospect holds a 0.82 ERA this spring. </p>
<p id="GAheyu">Korey Lee opened up the top of the fifth inning with a solo home run to give the team a 2-0 lead. Lee now has three home runs this spring, tripling his 2023 total. He is making a strong case to break camp with the team, as he also has a .350 average along with eight RBIs. </p>
<p id="B3LFKz">Jesse Chavez replaced Nastrini to start the bottom of the fifth inning, and that didn’t go so well. Shea Langeliers and Darell Hernaiz started off the inning with back-to-back singles, Lawrence Butler reached on a fielding error by Paul DeJong, and a wild pitch scored Langeliers. Another run scored on a ground out to tie the game, and things would stay tied until the ninth inning. </p>
<p id="fPBcFT">Jonathan Cannon had an impressive showing, taking over for Chavez going the last four innings with four hits, one run, and four strikeouts. This was his third appearance of the spring, and he holds a 2.57 ERA with eight strikeouts over seven innings pitched. </p>
<p id="ogShaN">Nothing much happened until the top of the ninth inning, when Sheets had a one-out homer to give the White Sox the lead. Surely this would lock the win in, right? Never with the White Sox. Haven’t we learned our lesson? Will Simpson hit a leadoff home run in the bottom of the inning, and the game ended anticlimactically with a tie. </p>
<p id="oGB5OZ">I wish there was more excitement, but that’s it for today. </p>
<p id="3teKYC">The team is back at Camelback Ranch tomorrow against the <a href="https://www.coveringthecorner.com/">Cleveland Guardians</a>, as newcomer Drew Thorpe will take the mound in his South Side debut. It will be exciting to see someone from the Dylan Cease trade so soon, and see what he has to offer for this struggling pitching staff. </p>
<p class="c-end-para" id="tqBOUa">Everyone enjoy the rest of your St. Patrick’s Day!</p>
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https://www.southsidesox.com/2024/3/17/24104438/white-sox-3-athletics-3-sounds-about-rightHannah LaMotta2024-03-17T14:42:18-05:002024-03-17T14:42:18-05:00Gamethread: White Sox at Athletics
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<p>Sit back, folks, it’s the game of the year!</p> <p class="p--has-dropcap" id="uPq75H">Happy Sunday and more importantly, happy St. Patrick’s Day! As if the <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> don’t give enough reason to drink, at least today there’s a reasonable exception. </p>
<p id="DjWKcJ">In all seriousness, the team will visit the <a href="https://www.athleticsnation.com/">Oakland Athletics</a> at Hohokam Stadium, with Nick Nastrini and Alex Wood facing off. </p>
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<p id="gfu63N">Prior to the game today, LHP Jared Shuster was optioned to AAA Charlotte after rough spring (4 2⁄3 innings,12 hits, 10 earned runs). </p>
<p id="BtgYtl">Nastrini, who was acquired in the Lance Lynn trade last year with the <a href="https://www.truebluela.com/">Los Angeles Dodgers</a>, aims to be one of the bright spots on this struggling pitching roster. He has thrown in three spring training games this year and in seven innings total has allowed two hits, one run and nine strikeouts. He has been absolutely outstanding , and should be in the starting rotation at some point soon. Today will be important in seeing if there’s continuity in his success to fill that role as a possible starter. </p>
<p id="ANhTTa">Wood is a lefty veteran who has bounced around in the league. The 33-year-old spent the last three seasons with the <a href="https://www.mccoveychronicles.com/">San Francisco Giants</a> before signing a one-year deal with the Athletics in February. He has appeared in two games this spring and has a 7.11 ERA in 6 1⁄3 innings pitched. </p>
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<p id="JZgQ6I">Dominic Fletcher will lead it off, and Eloy Jiménez is finally back in the lineup after being absent the last few days. </p>
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<p class="c-end-para" id="8odTBJ">Game time is at 3:05 p.m. CT. No White Sox broadcast today, but the Athletics will have a broadcast — as they do for every home game. </p>
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https://www.southsidesox.com/2024/3/17/24104096/gamethread-chicago-white-sox-at-oakland-athleticsHannah LaMotta2024-03-17T08:23:00-05:002024-03-17T08:23:00-05:00Let’s beat that dead horse for 3-3-3 once again!
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<p>The 2024 White Sox are the perfect team to innovate with its pitching rotation</p> <p class="p--has-dropcap" id="P6Ahxl">Yes, yes, I know. I’ve promoted the 3-3-3 pitching rotation before, as recently as the trading deadline last year after the <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> sent off most of the pitching staff.</p>
<p id="oElfBU">That was a good time to try the experiment. But now is even better.</p>
<p id="Q2Yy36">In fact, the 2024 White Sox may be the best team ever for putting into action Dave Fleming’s proposal on <a href="http://billjamesonline.com">billjamesonline.com</a> in 2009. Not only does it not matter in the least whether the White Sox lose a slew of games trying something new, since they’re going to lose a sufficient slew of games anyway, but they actually have a staff almost specifically designed for this particular experiment.</p>
<p id="nPtzeg">So, yes, this article will have some repetition, but it’s possible a few of you didn’t memorize the system last time around, or that the notes you jotted down about it inadvertently ended up in the bottom of your parrot’s cage. Therefore, let us begin with a review and move on to the specifics for the current White Sox.</p>
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<p id="HQ8Uwe">There is perhaps no one who has had more influence on the changing ways of Major League Baseball than Bill James, so it’s appropriate we delve into the work of one of his proteges to find ways for the White Sox be somehow relevant in 2024. Dave Fleming’s proposal was simple — instead of the usual pitching rotation, have three pitchers throw three innings each every three games.</p>
<p id="EkLDnq">That ends up with about as many innings each as starters would normally have, but with less wear and tear each outing, and with many advantages, such as making it harder for opponents to prepare for a game. There would be no three times through a lineup, and (with any luck) opponents wouldn’t even bat twice through vs. each hurler. It also makes losing someone from the rotation a less severe loss. The three innings, or maximum of 60 pitches (here’s looking at you, Michael Kopech), each time out is right in line with the rules high school associations have for teenagers, so it shouldn’t be harsh for professionals.</p>
<p id="j2v479">When Fleming came up with the idea, there were usually only 11 pitchers on a team. Now, with 13 the norm, it makes even more sense, because there are plenty of slots left for regular relievers. And, boy, does it work perfectly for the current White Sox.</p>
<p id="WD68uO"><strong>LET’S PLUG 3-3-3 INTO THE WHITE SOX LINEUP</strong><br>Right now, the White Sox are well short of real starters you’d want in a rotation, but, as luck would have it (or in a brilliant move by Chris Getz) they are absolutely loaded with kinda, sorta starters well suited to go three innings:</p>
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<strong>Michael Kopech</strong> relegated to the pen, but a long time starter</li>
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<strong>Erick Fedde</strong> horrible starter in MLB for six years, brilliant in Korea, could benefit from shorter stints back against better competition</li>
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<strong>Chris Flexen</strong> lousy starter in 2023, could use shorter outings</li>
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<strong>Michael Soroka</strong> once terrific, but has only thrown 45 innings since 2019 and needs to be on severely-limited workload</li>
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<strong>Garrett Crochet</strong> White Sox want to stretch him out, but like Soroka has pitched very little due to injuries and needs his workload kept low</li>
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<strong>Tanner Banks</strong> the go-to three-innings guy last year</li>
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<strong>Deivi García</strong> a starter in the minors as recently as 2022</li>
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<strong>Jared Shuster</strong> a starter last year, usually good for fewer than five innings</li>
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<strong>Shane Drohan</strong> starter in minors in 2023, usually good for four innings</li>
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<strong>Touki Toussaint</strong> spot starter in 2023</li>
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<strong>Nick Nastrini</strong> minor league starter, close to ready for majors</li>
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<p id="nzVYg2">That makes 12, which would be 3-3-3-3, but would leave room for only one regular reliever, which won’t work. So pick nine, make a 10th a rotator who gives the 3-3-3 guys a break (or rescues a pitcher getting shelled quickly), and then have three regular relievers who can also spell the regulars.</p>
<p id="mlwRGo">There are 1,458 innings in a season, less about 58 for games the Sox lose on the road, plus a very few extra innings under the new system. Even with, say, a quarter of the rotation time off and the regular relievers handling a total of 180 innings or so, each 3-3-3 pitcher would still get to about 120 innings — which would be too many for some. Fortunately, for those who wear out, Davis Martin should be back by July or August and Prelander Berroa and Jairo Iriarte, both starters for now, could be ready for MLB action by September.</p>
<p id="0goMaB"><strong>WOULD IT WORK? IT CAN’T BE WORSE THAN STICKING TO TRADITION</strong></p>
<p class="c-end-para" id="OUknzC">A regular rotation is apt to be a disaster for the White Sox, so why not try something new and be leaders for a change? And possibly best of all — having a set pattern of who pitches how many innings when will take decision-making away from Pedro Grifol, and that’s bound to be good.</p>
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https://www.southsidesox.com/2024/3/17/24102376/lets-beat-that-dead-horse-for-3-3-3-pitching-rotation-for-the-chicago-white-sox-once-againLeigh Allan2024-03-17T08:10:00-05:002024-03-17T08:10:00-05:00Today in White Sox History: March 17
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<p>What would happen if an entire spring training was rained out?</p> <h4 id="N4bCmR"><strong>1903</strong></h4>
<p id="lYWJNx">The <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> left for what would become a disastrous spring training in New Orleans. Two straight weeks of rain would permit just two games to be played. The club would break for home early, yet <em>still </em>encounter some rain on the way back north.</p>
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<p id="e3a6Ud">Construction begins at 35th & Shields on the stadium that would eventually be called Comiskey Park. The ballpark would be completed by late June, and officially open on July 1 with a 2-0 loss to the St. Louis <a href="https://www.dawgsbynature.com/">Browns</a>. </p>
<p id="4vdrB6">Think about that one: a new, steel stadium in a little more than three-and-a-half months!</p>
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<h4 id="a2dMsN"><strong>1923</strong></h4>
<p id="kY7zLZ">Appropriate for an Irishman, <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a> slugger <strong>Pat Seerey </strong>is born on St. Patrick’s Day in Wilburton, Okla. The 5´10´´, 200-pound slugger was dubbed “Fat Pat” and served as a precursor to a three-outcomes players like Rob Deer or even <strong>Adam Dunn</strong>. </p>
<p id="AmvUWC">Though his seven-year career was largely undistinguished, Seerey had a memorable <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/2018/6/25/17501590/race-to-the-bottom-game-77-pat-seerey-clouts-four-homers">four-homer game</a> for the White Sox on July 18, 1948, just six weeks after being acquired from Cleveland. Seerey became just the fifth player in major league history to accomplish the feat. He finished the 1948 season with 18 homers for the White Sox in 95 games, but would see action in just four more MLB games after that.</p>
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<p id="dumxGR"><strong>Carlos Quentin</strong> receives his MRI results for a knee injury and will undergo surgery. The good news? This injury, for once, does not affect the White Sox, as Quentin had been traded on New Year’s Eve to the <a href="https://www.gaslampball.com/">San Diego Padres</a>. The deal, a modern-day salary dump, as the White Sox dealt the defensively-limited and oft-injured slugger for two pitchers who would end up only appearing in five total games for the White Sox. </p>
<p id="TOAQSr">Quentin would recover well enough to produce 1.6 WAR in half a season, and then put up 2.1 WAR for the Padres in 2013. But from there, his career was toast.</p>
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<p>Combined score of 19-9, and they weren’t that close</p> <p class="p--has-dropcap" id="V34eS2">Well, you knew the winning streak couldn’t go on forever, right? Or maybe even up to St. Patrick’s Day.</p>
<p id="O2LHCY"><strong>THE GAME ON TV — SOX FALL TO GIANTS 11-7</strong><br>Don’t even ask how bad it was before the game was turned over to players bound for Double-A.</p>
<p id="gg8Qej">But, OK, since you asked ...</p>
<p id="GZCHf5">White Sox starter Chad Kuhl punched a surefire ticket to Charlotte, or maybe Birmingham, by giving up three runs on two homers in 2 2⁄3 innings, which is too bad, because the way the 2024 season is going to be, we could use all the opportunities for bad puns we can get.</p>
<p id="zvBxxu">The Sox, meanwhile, went 12-up, 12-down against Spencer Howard, but were let back in the game when minor-leaguer Juan Sanchez handed them three runs on walk/walk/HBP/E1 on a bad throw to the plate/shouldabeen E-1 on bobbled grounder hit by Max Stassi, for a 3-3 tie.</p>
<p id="sJUVi8">The tie lasted until Jared Schuster, a former Atlanta first-rounder considered a possible part of the starting rotation, gave up a run in the sixth and then six more in the seventh, on a total of seven hits and three walks.</p>
<p id="OSpDoJ">The Sox actually earned a couple of runs in the bottom of the seventh, on a Chuckie Robinson laser over the left field wall. </p>
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<p id="kBVicP"><br>Then, after the Giants scored one in the top of the ninth, Robinson led a charge of four straight singles by minor-leaguers, including one by the struggling Colson Montgomery on a checked swing, to close the score to 11-7 and match their hit total from the first eight innings. The next two batters hit the ball hard as well, but right at people for a DP and a line out, and that was that.</p>
<p id="WOgERW">If you’re looking for a bright spot by a major-leaguer, Michael Kopech had a clean inning.</p>
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<p id="5BK3ES"><br>Luis Robert Jr. continued to have problems at the plate, going 0-for-3 with a K on a pitch well out of the zone, but he did hit the ball hard once and made a nice play in center.</p>
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<p id="HImdmE"><strong>MEANWHILE, OUT IN PEORIA (Ariz., not Ill., that is)</strong><br>The White Sox didn’t even bother to threaten against the Mariners, quietly going down 8-2 after falling behind 4-zip in the first and 8-1 after five, seven of those runs coming off of starter Jake Woodford, who also will soon pile up frequent flier miles to Charlotte.</p>
<p id="44oDHw">The sole Sox run in the period came from a combo by two of the competitors for the utility infield slot on the roster, as Braden Shewmake singled in Zach Remillard, who had doubled.</p>
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<p id="xqKOam"><br>Ever the Pollyanna, permit me to point out the Sox staff only walked one Mariner, while striking out six. And that was even with Touki Toussaint pitching an inning.</p>
<p class="c-end-para" id="fynp4l">The White Sox are now 8-15 and once again at the bottom of the Cactus League. They’re back in action against the A’s tomorrow, with the full squad back intact.</p>
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