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Did the market for Crede just get larger?

There has been talk that the Dodgers, who have an increasingly ineffective Nomar Garciapara and the injured Andy LaRoche (out 8-10 weeks) at 3B, have expressed interest in the Tigers' displaced 3B Brandon Inge. Like Robothal, I struggled to see how and why the Dodgers would make that move. With the news of LaRoche's surgery, however, I can finally understand the why.

Which brings up the question: Why not Joe Crede?

Crede and Inge are very similar players in that they're both low-OBP, defensive minded, slugging third basemen. But Crede brings more power, a better contact rate, and a smaller salary -- Inge is owed $19.1M over the next three years. Why wouldn't the Dodgers be interested?

They wouldn't be locking themselves into a 2.5 years of an overpriced bench player when LaRoche gets healthy. And Crede might be movable at the trade deadline to a team like the Indians, who might be looking for 3B help by then.

I know, I know, Crede's got a bum back. But he's appeared healthy (with the exception of his throws to 1B) in camp, and the Dodgers might only need him for 2-3 months anyway.

If nothing else, the prospect of the Dodgers possibly being interested in a Crede-type player should give Kenny Williams some added leverage in the eventual deal with the Giants.

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Konerko, Crede Rumors

Shaftr points us towards a note in SI about the impending Joe Crede deal.

The White Sox apparently haven't been enamored by what the Giants have to offer for third baseman Joe Crede. A Giants person conceded, "We badly need bats,'' but they aren't to the point where they'll give up any of their better pitchers to get them. One possibility could be hard-throwing reliever Jonathan Sanchez, though it appears now that Crede may not be traded until closer to this summer's deadline.
I'll keep saying that the Sox need to shift their focus to one of the Giants young, recently drafted position players. You know, because the Sox system is loaded with multi-talented position prospects.
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Robothal fans the Paul Konerko rumors, which only seem plausible if the Sox main goal was to get out from under a contract that's soon to become immovable (10/5 rights).

If the Mets wanted to do something truly extravagant, they could make a run at White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko, who remains quietly available, according to a major-league source.

Unlikely as a trade of Konerko might be, such a move would be especially appealing to the White Sox if they could acquire a quality starting pitcher in return. Konerko, because of his service time, will gain full no-trade protection early in the season. The White Sox could move center fielder Nick Swisher or left fielder/third baseman Josh Fields to first and keep Joe Crede at third in his final year before becoming a free agent.

Every move the Sox have made since June (Pierzynski, Buehrle, Dye extensions, linebrink signing, trading our top 5 prospects) has involved keeping or adding to their aging core. Why would they stop now? This is just rumor-pr0n for the boys in Crede's Crew.
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Elsewhere, Rick Morissey wonders if the Sox are all talk, no Swagger -- The Grinder Era is dead, long live The Swagger! -- and goes on to call them an 85 win team. 85 wins? That calls for a rally.

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Bartolo Colon signed by White Sox?

Our favorite Spanish language paper seems to be reporting that the White Sox have reached a preliminary agreement with Bartolo Colon, pending physical.

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CenterField rumors

No Fuku?:

The Padres are facing determined competition from the Cubs for Japanese outfielder Kosuke Fukudome. Growing indications yesterday had the Cubs willing to guarantee Fukudome close to $50 million. The Padres have offered more than $10 million per year, perhaps well above that amount, over at least three years.
MLBTR says Fukudome really wants 5 years, and the Cubs are having an internal debate about stretching their offer to 5/65.

No Legend?:

The Giants are further along in discussions for free-agent outfielder Aaron Rowand, having spoken to his representative several times since last week's winter meetings. But it wouldn't be out of character for Giants General Manager Brian Sabean to strike late and fast on Fukudome.
Hello Mike Cameron? Ryan Sweeney? Alexei Ramirez? Corey Patterson? Kenny Lofton? Jerry Owens? Brian Anderson?
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White Sox [NOT] close to landing Miguel Cabrera, interested in Andruw

I've got the ESPN Winter Meetings special on in the background, not paying too much attention to it. I've kept it on because they promised some Ozzie Guillen goodness at the top of the program. Minutes from it's close, I've yet to see our favorite Venezuelan.

Meanwhile, Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post is reporting that the White Sox appear tantalizingly close to a Miguel Cabrera deal.

The Chicago White Sox are making a strong push to acquire Marlins third baseman Miguel Cabrera, industry sources said late this afternoon.

The hallways at the winter meetings were buzzing that the White Sox are close to making "a major announcement," and team sources confirmed it has to do with Cabrera.

He speculates that the package would include Fields, Gio, and one of Danks/Floyd.

Update [2007-12-4 18:17:50 by The Cheat]: According to Peter Gammons (and some MLBlog), the Tigers will make a deal for Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis by the end of the night.

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According to Ozzie, who 'doesn't get involved,' the White Sox do indeed have interest in Andruw Jones.

"He's in the mix, I guess," said Guillen, who raved about Jones when he played with him in Atlanta in 1998-99. "It's all about cash, years, something I don't get involved."

"A lot to people say Scott Boras is the best agent, and he is," Guillen said. "No (kidding). When you have all those kind of players, you'd be a good agent, too."

"I think Andruw Jones is going to bounce back and have a good year, no matter whoever he plays for," Guillen said. "With all my respect to Torii Hunter, I don't see anyone better than that kid when I was playing with him."

Mr. Hahn, there's a Mr. Boras on the line for you.
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In less interesting rumors:

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White Sox really are players for Cabrera

I had yet to acknowledged the Miguel Cabrera rumors because I didn't feel the Sox had the prospects to get a deal done. And in Ken Rosenthal's latest piece, he says the same thing. But, citing the always mysterious baseball sources, he says the Sox are still in the running with the intent to play Cabrera in LF.

For the White Sox to acquire Cabrera, they probably would need the Red Sox to re-sign third baseman Mike Lowell, the Angels to balk at moving second baseman Howie Kendrick and the Dodgers and Yankees to focus on pitching instead.

In the admittedly unlikely event that all of that took place, the White Sox then would need the Marlins to accept a package of, say, left-hander Gio Gonzalez, third baseman Josh Fields and center fielder Jerry Owens.

Such an offer probably would be too light, but perhaps the Sox could acquire additional prospects for right-hander Jon Garland in another deal. Then again, parting with Garland on top of Gonzalez -- one year after trading Brandon McCarthy -- might not be such a good idea.

It's a huge longshot, but it's all we'll be reading about until spring training when Cabrera is still a Marlin.

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A couple rumors

MLBTR says the Sox have a strong interest in 34 year-old Japanese right-handed reliever Yasuhiko Yabuta:

Yasuhiko Yabuta - Yabuta, the right-handed set up man for the Chiba Lotte Marines, is probably best known for striking out A-Rod, Derrek Lee, and Johnny Damon in the 2006 World Baseball Classic. The Chicago White Sox need a set-up man and are rumored to have a strong interest in Yabuta, who has racked up 86 holds and a sub 3.00 ERA over the last 3 years for the Marines despite not panning out as a starter. [Note: the Red Sox are said to have a working agreement with the Marines, also.]
Wikipedia agrees: "Japanese media reported that the White Sox has a strong interest in him. (Oct 2007)." Rotoworld too. Must've slipped under the radar.
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And Kenny says he has no interest in Miguel Tejada:
Among the potential suitors -- teams that have holes on the left side of their infield -- most appear to be focused in a different direction from Tejada. The Chicago White Sox haven't decided whether they will exercise shortstop Juan Uribe's option, and third baseman Joe Crede is coming off back surgery and is reportedly a target of the New York Yankees to replace Rodriguez. However, asked today about the possibility of acquiring Tejada, White Sox GM Ken Williams said he had no interest. Williams was one of the most aggressive suitors for Tejada last season, offering the Orioles veteran starter Jose Contreras and pitching prospect Gio Gonzalez for the shortstop, according to a source.

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In which Cheat speculates about things unlikely to happen

...because we needed another thread in which Larry and Pete can take a screen stretching dump.

It's hard to tell fantasy from reality at Baseball's annual GM meetings, particularly this season. Among the name players who have supposedly being dangled for the right price are, Miguel Cabrera, Dontrelle Willis, Scott Kazmir, Danny Haren, Joe Blanton, Jason Bay, Coco Crisp, Johnny Damon and many more, I'm sure. A number of teams seem to be dangling their productive arbitration-eligible players in an attempt to get multiple unestablished pre-arb players in return.

I think they're just testing the waters more than anything.

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Phil Rogers gives some added insight into the proposed Crede-for-Damon swap which could have more players in the mix.

A Crede-for-Damon trade would hit the White Sox in the wallet, as Damon is due $13 million in 2008 and 2009. But the deal could be expanded to include some pitchers the Sox are making available--most likely Jon Garland (with the Yankees sending back another player or two) but possibly Jose Contreras or reliever Mike MacDougal. The Sox believe they are six-deep in starting pitchers (Jon Danks, Gavin Floyd, Mark Buehrle, Javier Vazquez, Garland and Contreras) and could use that pitching depth to try to fill holes in the outfield and at shortstop.
Of course, Rogers seems to think Damon is a center fielder, so the rest of what he says has to be digested with that fresh in mind.

It's hard to see how Garland fits in a deal with the Yankees, but not nearly as difficult as one involving Jose Conteras. What would the Yankees be willing to part with for a year Garland and Crede? Damon and ___? It's not like they have a SS they can give up. If Garland is going to be moved this off-season, the player in return needs to be a SS. There's not another player with whom the Sox are willing to part who can bring back a worthy up-the-middle position player.

And since I can't have a post about the Yankees without bringing up the name Ian Kennnedy... Ian Kennedy. There, I said it.

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Boras: It's my season now. NL, you suck!

Only Scott Boras, Scott Boras representing Alex Rodriguez, could be so self-important as to feel the need to make the foregone conclusion of the A-Rod opt-out official with an announcement fed to the press during game four of the World Series. Nobody is surprised that another Boras client is looking for his two-in-the-bush. I fail to see the need for an announcement. During the World Series. Even if it was the least exciting post-season in history. Those two deserve each other.

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Another move which has seemingly been written on the wall for a couple weeks appears to be all-but-official in St. Louis. While it won't get nearly the press that A-Rod gets, the Antonelli move will probably have more of an effect (albeit an indirect one) on the White Sox. Rick Hahn should remain as Kenny's #2, and the Indians lose their #2, their second front office departure of the off-season.

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As first brought up by Jim at SoxMachine, Phil Rogers seems to say that there are whispers surrounding the White Sox and Coco Crisp, which would seem to be a good fit. I'm on board the get Coco bandwagon, as long as we're just shipping off spare parts and/or lower-level prospects (Shelby and Masset/Aardsma/Oneli/Russell, for example). It's obvious that Boston is going to get rid of him to make room for Ellsbury. There's no reason to give up anything of substantial value in the process.

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Flipping channels tonight, I caught a glimpse of The Legend at an NHRA event. Well, I didn't see all of him, just his disembodied head floating in one of those over-the-shoulder pop-ups you see on the evening news. In case you were wondering what he had to say, "Schilling doesn't throw 300MPH." Did anyone else see this? Was he wearing a 2005 World Series Champs hat? I couldn't tell since it was on backwards.

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And in other news: Kenny busts a move on the dance floor! (wiz)

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What this team needs... is more grinders!

[Sun-Times]

St. Louis Cardinals free agent- to-be David Eckstein (right) is becoming target No. 1 on the Sox' offseason wish list. He would give them a leadoff hitter with a career .349 on-base percentage and a sure-handed shortstop. Plus, he and Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski worked together last offseason in a feud for TNA Wrestling. Team Eckstein won.
What this team is really lacking is more players who disguise their lack of talent under a layer of grit and 5 o'clock shadow.
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I was about to make a post about Eckstein, but since Blondie drew faster, I'll just add the other parts in the end of this post! (wiz)

In other news,

And here's the latest Palehose 7 strip: Tired.

And look inside for Ozzie's latest rant.

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