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Yep, Josh Fields can't hit fastballs

After looking at the White Sox Pitch Type Data for the returning starting pitchers, I decided to see if we could learn anything from the available pitch type data for our hitters. Well, just Josh Fields for now, but I plan on expanding that in the near future.

Again, I'll point you towards The Hardball Times article with league averages and let you draw your own conclusions from Fields' data.

I've included Contact%, which isn't included in the THT article, but is available on all player pages at Baseball-Reference.com. I don't have the pitch-type data for contact rate, but you can see just how much trouble Fields has with the fastball through this method.

The ML average contact rate (for all pitches) is 80%; Fields checks in at 72% overall and 73.3% for our sample. The average Major Leaguer swings and misses (WHIFF%) at just 6% of the fastballs thrown; Fields is more than doubles that rate at 14%, and makes contact less than 70% of the time he moves the bat off his shoulder against fastballs.

I'd have to take a look at the data from other high-strikeout sluggers to form an opinion about whether Fields inability to hit pedestrian fastballs will keep him from becoming a major leaguer. But right now, I think we can at least back up what we all saw over the course of the season with some hard data. Fields does not handle the fastball well at all.

[Hardball Times] [Josh Kalk's Pitch f/x tool] [Josh Fields Pitch Type Data]

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He already is a major leaguer, no?
Whether he becomes a good, or passable, one is another story.
"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Dec 28, 2007 2:20 PM CST   0 recs

Technically
I believe you saw some results (specifically power) that I don't think he can maintain without a change in swing/philosophy.

He's a dangerous hitter with good bat speed, but he has to change/shorten his load phase or pitchers are going to discover they can blow him away with 89MPH fastballs.

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 2:30 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

On another topic,
being a former World Series hero doesn't make you bulletproof:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7611338

Don't eff with us in Florida, boy!

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Dec 28, 2007 2:24 PM CST   0 recs

man, that's horrible
nor is the woman he killed drunkdriver(allegedly)-proof
Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!

by Nordhagen on Dec 28, 2007 3:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm also not a big fan of the fact
he's missing changeups and splitters too.  Apparently it isn't just the fastball, but also anything that comes out of a pitcher's hand looking like a fastball.
I hate Illinois Nazis.

by MarketMaker on Dec 28, 2007 2:31 PM CST   0 recs

caveats
the Splitter is just 34 pitches of data... I don't think we can draw anything from that...

and while he may have had some trouble with the change up, he was much closer to league average there than he is against a fastball, which is obviously the most thrown pitch in baseball.

League Averages

+-----------+-------+---------+-------+-----------+---------+
| PitchType | Ball% | Called% | Foul% | Swinging% | InPlay% |
+-----------+-------+---------+-------+-----------+---------+
| FB | 0.36 | 0.19 | 0.19 | 0.06 | 0.19 |
| SL | 0.36 | 0.14 | 0.17 | 0.13 | 0.20 |
| Curve | 0.40 | 0.19 | 0.13 | 0.11 | 0.16 |
| Change | 0.40 | 0.11 | 0.14 | 0.13 | 0.21 |
+-----------+-------+---------+-------+-----------+---------+
| All | 0.37 | 0.17 | 0.17 | 0.09 | 0.19 |
+-----------+-------+---------+-------+-----------+---------+
InPlay - includes home runs
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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 2:38 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Added Jerry Owens to the data
Against lefties, he helpless against anything but fastballs.
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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 2:32 PM CST   0 recs

And Orlando Cabrera
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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 2:57 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

What's the formula you're using?
You defined WHIFF, but how are contact %, etc being defined?  None of these figures add up to 100% if you add across the rows, eg WHIFF% + FOUL% + CONTACT% does NOT = 100%.
"We can stay with Jerry Owens in center field...So we've got a lot of flexibility" - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Dec 28, 2007 3:06 PM CST   0 recs

WHIFF% and Foul%
are just StrikesSwinging/pitches and Fouls/pitches, respectively... I didn't include Ball% (balls/pitches), which would add up to 100% with WHIFF, Foul, and InPlay+HR%.

Contact% is exactly what it sounds like. The players contact rate [(hits+fouls+in play outs)/(hits+fouls+strikesSwinging+in play outs)] on pitches swung at... It's a subset of the other measures..

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Got it, that makes sense thx
"We can stay with Jerry Owens in center field...So we've got a lot of flexibility" - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Dec 28, 2007 3:26 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

After looking at Cust's data
I now realize I should have included Ball% and strikes called %, as they can vary wildly....

I've updated the link, and now the first 5 columns should add up to 100%.

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 10:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Outstanding
My inner Vulcan thanks you, live long and prosper!
"We can stay with Jerry Owens in center field...So we've got a lot of flexibility" - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Dec 30, 2007 6:59 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Great stuff Cheat!
The one I'd really like to see for comparison to Fields is Thome. In Fields' best case scenario he aspires to be Thome with less walks (high K rate, great power, but probably more of a Konerko level of walks). It seemed to me he was doing a little better job with the fastball at the end of the year (purely subjective observation on my part).

One thing that I was struck by as the season went on was Fields' pure power. He hit some absolute bombs, balls that went a lot farther than i thought they would off the bat. So I was intrigued and had been meaning to do a diary looking at that. This looks like a good place to post it.

Probably the best way to look at pure HR power these days is HR/AIR or HR/FB. HR/AIR I belive includes line drives and infield flys.

HR/AIR MLB leaders more than 300 PAs:

Carlos Pena 21.6%
Ryan Howard 21.1%
Jim Thome  21.0%
Jack Cust 20.6%
Alex Rodriguez  20.6%
Adam Dunn  17.9%
Ryan Braun 17.9%
Prince Fielder   17.3%
Barry Bonds  17.2%
Josh Fields   17.2%

For reference Konerko is the next best Sox at 12%, sig. far down the MLB list.

So 10th in MLB for HR/AIR. For HR/FB Fields ranked 9th in MLB with the same group of ten as for HR/AIR.

Another thing you may have noticed is that most of the folks on that list are lefties. Looking at righties. The list is:

A-rod
Braun
Fields

My interpretation is that he has the potential to be an elite power hitter if he can lower his K rate, especially on FB. I think he can still be a league average hitter wih even a small improvement in that category. Although I'm very interested as to the whiff% of the Thomes, Cust and Howard's of the world.

by bhoov on Dec 28, 2007 3:08 PM CST   0 recs

Matching my
subjective observations, his K rate decreased rather dramatically in Sept. (23.7% vs. 30% overall). Obviously we don't know if this was as a result of whiffing less on fastballs, but it should be interesting to see what happens next year.

by bhoov on Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Can you learn to hit a fastball?
I've seen guys eventually learn how to handle breaking balls as they gained experience, but I can't recall anyone who learned to hit a fastball over time.  I would think that's innate reaction time, either you got it or you don't.  Based on how times he swung through mediocre meatball fastballs over the heart of the plate when he was sitting on it with a hitters count, I'd lean to the latter.
"We can stay with Jerry Owens in center field...So we've got a lot of flexibility" - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Dec 28, 2007 3:33 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I think I would lean towards the former
but over a shorter period of time though. What I mean is every level you move up the average speed of the fastball increases. So it may take some hitters longer to adjust, up to a period of months. But I agree that with the fastball if you haven't adjusted within a year you're probably not going to. With the breaking pitch you can probably "learn" how to hit over a longer period of time.

So, did he adjust in Sept. with his decrease in K% or was that just normal variation around his mean? Don't know. But that's why I'll be interested to see what happens next year.

by bhoov on Dec 28, 2007 3:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm looking for comparables
I can't find a single player (sluggers specifically) who has as much trouble with the fastball as Fields... Only Cust has come close, but even he makes more contact on fastballs and offsets the lack of contact with more patience. Cust is much worse against breaking balls, but he appears to recognize this and just watch them, nearly all of them; he watched 82.5% of curveballs and 71.4% of sliders.

Fields watched 62.5% of curveballs and 50% of sliders.

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 10:20 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Not to put you to work, Cheat,
but I know I would be interested to see how he compares with other "sluggers."  Also, is this something that improves with age/experience?  Fields just turned 25, right?  Good stuff.  Thanks.

by palehose67 on Dec 28, 2007 3:08 PM CST   0 recs

Thome's data is interesting
It'll be up in 20-30 minutes...

Preliminarily, against fastballs, he WHIFFed at 9% of them, made contact 77+% of the time he swung, and hit most of his HR. Yet he only had a .199 BABIP on fastballs.

I suppose this is because when he got one he liked, he knew what to do with it, hitting HRs. You would think that he would still have a higher BABIP on fastballs given his ability to smoke them over the outfield wall.

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 3:42 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Thome's data should be up
He had big trouble with the curveball based on the pitch f/x data...

He put only 6.5% of curveballs into play versus 21% for league average, made contact 58% of the time he swung at them (though I don't have baseline for that), which seems really bad.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pu3ZedtKEM2tfiqXTQF4tQA&gid=3

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 3:57 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

something wrong with that data
It has Thome at an overall BABIP of .253. His BABIP was .319 according to fangraphs.

by bhoov on Dec 28, 2007 4:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

its incomplete....
Only 90% complete
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 28, 2007 4:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

That does seem like a big discrepency
but I just checked and my calculations are accurate.

Thome saw 2244 pitches this year, and pitch f/x only captured 1493 of them. So, I suppose he could have had some extreme "luck" during those other games... He only had 5 HR in those 750 pitches, so he was getting good results on BIP.

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 5:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Cheat, did you know Kalk has
an app set up in addition to the player cards?  He doesn't advertise it that well on his site and it's pretty useful.

So, for example, we know that Fields can definitely handle below average fastballs, which is how he killed AAA so readily.  I chose righties since he kills lefties anyway.  He only whiffs way up in the zone there.

His work against above average fastballs is the stuff that hurts him.  He whiffs 16% of the time and managed just as many HRs as against the below average fastballs on nearly 3 times as many pitches.

His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 28, 2007 4:59 PM CST   0 recs

It's like Lake Wobegon...
where 3/4 of the fastballs are above-average.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Dec 28, 2007 5:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Some more stuff
Josh vs. sinkers

The speed is around average, but he doesn't whiff with nearly the same frequency.  So dealing with the vertical break is an aspect of his struggles it seems?

His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 28, 2007 5:33 PM CST   0 recs

I wonder...
if they had done that kind of breakdown with Ron Kittle, what they would have come up with?  Because Josh Fields strikes me as a similar-type hitter to Kittle.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Dec 28, 2007 5:36 PM CST   0 recs

Kittle will be at the fantasy camp
If I share a beer with him I'll ask him bout that comparison.  Since he was ROY I bet he'll scoff at that notion.
"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Dec 28, 2007 7:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I need to learn this stuff
I've put off taking the time to read and understand this new pitch f/x data, but I think I'd better put myself to looking at it in the next few weeks.  There seems to be a lot of neat stuff here that I'm missing.  I'll be heading up to Montreal to see the Hawks play, so that seems like as good a time as ever.  

Quick question to Cheat (or anyone else who cares to answer)...  have the last two entries (the one on Danks as well as this one) pretty much listed most of the 'stuff' needed to grasp everything that's 'going on' here?

by CWSKeith on Dec 28, 2007 5:53 PM CST   0 recs

And by "stuff"
I mean links to places like The Hardball Times as well as Kalk's entries/site.

by CWSKeith on Dec 28, 2007 5:54 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Oops
Forgot Kalk's blog
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 28, 2007 6:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

It's not complicated at all
All I've done is display some results based on pitch type (as determined by an algorithm using the pitch f/x data)...

I haven't touched any of the pitch f/x data, I'm just using the provided tools to break down how some of our players have performed vs. league average.

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 5:59 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I've been gathering links for future fantasy
purposes:

Joh Walsh's opening salvo about the Sinker it's also a good primer as he checks out what the terminology means first
Josh Kalk examines an average pitcher
Dan Fox did some stuff on what it means to have a good eye
this might be the best one.  a look at an average fastball, curve, slider and change  that's where Cheat is getting these expected averages from
Walsh's pitch identification tutorial
Not  pitch f/x, but still sweet: expected BABIP and such based on GB/LD/FB from Dan Fox's blog
Also not pitch f/x, but it is THT
...this examines reliever usage and whether over-use is responsible for some of the wild fluctuations we see in reliever performance

His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 28, 2007 6:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Thanks Colin
those'll work -- along with Cheat's prior two posts, I should be able to kill an hour-and-a-half of the flight to Vermont (we're driving into Montreal from there).

by CWSKeith on Dec 28, 2007 7:39 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

keine problem
I really think this stuff will come in handy for fantasy.
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 28, 2007 10:26 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

first
FIRST
Toonderstrook's myspace page http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=67492521

by Soulja Boy on Dec 28, 2007 6:53 PM CST   0 recs

Konerko vs. Fields
Below is a clip I made to compare the loading of both Konerko (fastball hitter) and Fields. Look specifically at how little movement there is in the position of Konerko's hands before swinging compared to Fields. Considering you have 0.45 seconds to react to a 90MPH pitch, any wasted movement can be crucial. Fields simply cannot catch up to pitches above the belt because of how much power he's loading into his swing. I know Fields hit fastballs poorly as a whole, but I'm willing to bet he fared much better against those down in the zone. His WHIFF% was low for pitches that are down in nature (sinker, curve).

by 3E8 on Dec 28, 2007 8:15 PM CST   0 recs

low pitches
Here are all of the hits Fields had captured by pitch f/x...

And here are all of Fields swing-and-misses as captured by pitch f/x...

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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 8:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Nice confirmation
Many batters feast on pitches left up in the zone. But it seems like at least 75% of Fields' extra-base hits were on pitches in the lower-half of the zone.

by 3E8 on Dec 28, 2007 9:17 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

If we could get even more granular
I'd like to see the ball/strike count on each pitch in those diagrams.  IIRC, a big chunk of those fastball swinging strikes down the middle of the plate between the belt and the letters came on hitter counts.  The dude can sure crush the curveball though.
"We can stay with Jerry Owens in center field...So we've got a lot of flexibility" - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Dec 30, 2007 7:03 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Added Konerko
Like Thome, he had a low BABIP against fastballs (specifically RHP) but he made much more contact. Konerko WHIFFed at under 4% of the fastballs he saw (compared to a 6% league average) and made contact 93% of the time he swung at fastballs.
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by The Cheat on Dec 28, 2007 9:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

That's pretty awesome
Fields has a pretty classic power hitter hitch.  Isn't that normally resolved by lowering the hands in the stance, to cut down on the time taken to load?  And shouldn't Walker have noticed?
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 29, 2007 12:27 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

One technique Fields could use
Is to keep his back elbow up more.  A higher back elbow allows you  to keep level on the ball more.  Then you can finish with a hands high set to give you the arch he looks for.  When your elbow is down you get into a hitch when you change level to strike the ball.  I wouldnt worry about him losing power through the hitting zone, its just finding a hitting coach thats capable of making changes without messing more up.  Walker doesnt like to change or tinker with hitters like this.  He likes for them to use what got them here.  After watching that side shot you can see why he gets beat on the high fastball.  Its hard to bring your hands down, then up and catch up with a high fastball.  If you do hit it, you are more likely to shear it and pop it up or foul it back.  

by southsideirish71 on Dec 29, 2007 1:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Walker
Only tinkers with hitters when they are going well.  Or when he isnt satisfied that they are getting enough power.  

by southsideirish71 on Dec 29, 2007 1:27 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

SSI, you are right on
I was sucking mightily last week at the batting cage and remembered what they taught me in Little League 40 years ago - "Get your back elbow up!".  I figured  ihad little to lose, and - voila!  Level contact.

Are you the ghost of Teddy Ballgame?

"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Dec 29, 2007 6:42 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Or the ghost of my grandpa.
He put me in essentially a Chuck Knoblauch stance when I started facing high school pitching -- elbow up, hands high and almost all the way back.  Of course, it's not like I had any power to begin with, so I didn't have to worry about sacrificing it.

Struck out three times in 28 games.

by Sox Machine on Dec 29, 2007 2:26 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

pshaw
i would hope you'd only strike out three times against high school pitching.

by larry on Dec 29, 2007 2:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yes, but Jim was 7 years old
when he faced high school pitching.  Give the kid his due.
"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Dec 29, 2007 2:47 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

*Thank* you
At least somebody here followed my career.

by Sox Machine on Dec 29, 2007 2:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

excuse after excuse
"i didn't have enough power. i was young for my level. mommy didn't love me." own up to it: you just weren't tough enough, margalus.

by larry on Dec 29, 2007 2:54 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

In other words
You're saying I was Ryan Sweeney before Ryan Sweeney was Ryan Sweeney.

by Sox Machine on Dec 29, 2007 3:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

coach fox was saying just that
"that margalus is ryan fucking sweeney." no one understood then. but we understand now. oh, do we understand.

by larry on Dec 29, 2007 3:30 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I still have the bubble gum
that came with your card.
"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Dec 29, 2007 2:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Unfortunate
I wish I was more confident about Fields. He's the only position prospect to do anything for the Sox in a long time.

To be fair to him, he flashed elite power potential last season -- more than potential really, since 23 HRs tied him 21st in the AL. And he was more athletic than I thought he would be; I think he could be a very good LF.

But it really seems like his offensive production is unsustainable with his current technique. And who knows if he can generate the same kind of power numbers with loading as he currently does. What's doubly troubling is that I have no faith that the Sox coaching staff can help Fields out in any way.  

by hitlesswonder on Dec 28, 2007 11:37 PM CST   0 recs

I too thought of that
Quieting his hands may hurt his ISO, but on the flip side it would help him make more contact and maybe increase his line drive %.

by 3E8 on Dec 29, 2007 1:10 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

He's well past .200 ISO
So would it really hurt his game that much?  I doubt it.
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 29, 2007 8:59 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Poorly worded
I shouldn't say hurt cause I guess that did sound like it will turn bad, which is not the case.  He was around .250 this season.

by 3E8 on Dec 29, 2007 11:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

he's got plenty of power
that he needs to turn into some semblance of OBP
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 30, 2007 12:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

And also -- thanks Cheat
This work and the stuff on the pitchers is really outstanding. Fantastically informative.

by hitlesswonder on Dec 28, 2007 11:38 PM CST   0 recs

And informatively fantastic.
I'll hang up and listen to your answer.

by Hazymania on Dec 29, 2007 12:36 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

yes nice work, two bats up!
now if we had a good hitting coach

walker's multi-year extension must be close...

by The Wizard on Dec 29, 2007 2:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Cheat
There are 3 guys in MLB with higher K% than Fields: Gomes, Cust and Mark Reynolds. Do you have their whiff% vs. FB? Reynolds is an interesting comp. Same age, experience level and position. Not as much power better overall hitter, but in the weaker pitching league. Really interesting data. Wish we had complete monthly splits to see if his improved K% in Sept. was because of lower Whiff% on the fastball. I guess time will have to tell.

by bhoov on Dec 29, 2007 4:03 PM CST   0 recs

I wouldn't call Reynolds a better hitter
He has a .378 BABIP in the majors. I don't think any non-speed guy can come close to maintaining that number.

(Fields BABIP was .293 last season)

The NL West must not have had a whole lot of pitch f/x enabled parks, because we've only got 1/2 of Reynolds pitches seen captured. In that time, he did strike out on more fastballs than Fields and had a worse contact rate. But he was also much worse on breaking balls (as you would expect from a high-strikeout guy). He WHIFFed at 25+% of sliders thrown, for example.

Gomes is a guy to whom I've often compared Fields in the past. We have even less data on him than we do Reynolds (about 1/3rd of his ABs). He's your standard high-strikeout guy who can't hit breaking stuff. The thing that I noticed is that he seemed to have more pitches called for strikes against him.

Cust I kinda covered last night. I'll put together a spreadsheet of high-strikeout guys by the end of the weekend... At which point, I think we'll have come to the conclusion that Fields is a unique ballplayer. Whether those unique tools will play at the major league level will be up for discussion.

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by The Cheat on Dec 29, 2007 5:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

plugging in some numbers
It looks like BJ upton may be the best comparison we find... Upton, like reynolds, posted a much higher average than Fields thanks to an unsustainably high BABIP.

I think it's telling that the only players we can find with truly similar numbers are what you would consider not-fully-formed, young players who, similarly, will have to adjust to become perennial above-average-to-all-star major league players.

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by The Cheat on Dec 29, 2007 5:44 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

My bet is
that's because they either adapt or crap out of the game.  You can't last too long striking out that much.
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 29, 2007 8:12 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Usually they can't hit the breaking ball
Brian Anderson is typical.  If they had this f/x data for him in 2006, there'd be a huge clump of sliders down and away that he's flailing at.

The guys who can't catch up to the fastball are usually at the end of their careers.  The dearly departed Erstad was like that last year, early in the season they were just pumping heat down the middle of the plate on him and not even bothering with any breaking stuff.  If he somehow got around on it he'd break his bat and dribble it to 2B.

This kind of data is dangerous.  I expect Fields is going to be attacked with a lot of high heat by every team next year, let's see what he does.

"We can stay with Jerry Owens in center field...So we've got a lot of flexibility" - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Erstad wasn't whiffing though
he just couldn't do anything with it.  Fields, when he catches up, mashes.  I think he could be very Cecil Fielder, though I really don't know what his stats line looks like.  That massive hitch Fielder had always made me laugh though.  He was my favorite non-Sox player back in the day when I still sorta rooted for the Tigers because of my dad.
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Dec 30, 2007 4:47 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

HOW BOUT THAT SHIT
Man, I've been on a high all day.  And you need to check out all the Lloyd quotes.  What an utterly classy human being.  
His little smile pissed me off.

by colintj on Jan 2, 2008 1:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Great game - very glad you upheld
the Big Ten honor.  Wasn't sure they really wanted the win with 4 TO's, but they dominated on both sides of the ball.
"I can't give you a dollar if I don't have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you."

by winningugly on Jan 2, 2008 12:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs