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Game 48: White Sox (24-23) @ Twins (26-25) -- Garland vs. Baker

Acmilan_tiny by The Wizard on in Game Threads

Jon Garland (R, 3-3, 3.43, 9, 9, 63.0, 24, 17, 1.11) vs. Scott Baker (R, 1-0, 3.29, 2, 2, 13.2, 7, 4, 1.10)  [Throws, W-L, ERA, G, GS, IP, K, BB, WHIP]

Time: 12:10 p.m., TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (Live Boxscore; 2006 MLB Gameday; 2007 MLB Gameday)

GO SOX!

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Lineups
Good Guys: 
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. D Erstad, CF         .276    2       21      7
2. T Iguchi, 2B         .220    2       9       3
3. J Thome, DH          .311    6       16      0
4. J Dye, RF            .237    10      27      0
5. P Konerko, 1B        .227    7       26      0
6. R Mackowiak, LF      .225    1       10      3
7. J Crede, 3B          .224    4       20      0
8. A Cintron, SS        .204    0       4       0
9. T Hall, C            .250    0       0       0
Bad Guys: 
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. J Tyner, DH          .276    0       11      3
2. N Punto, 2B          .240    0       10      9
3. M Cuddyer, RF        .298    7       37      2
4. J Morneau, 1B        .293    16      43      0
5. T Hunter, CF         .314    11      42      9
6. J Kubel, LF          .243    2       17      2
7. J Cirillo, 3B        .224    1       6       1
8. C Heintz, C          .200    0       2       0
9. J Bartlett, SS       .246    0       10      6
GO SOX!

by The Wizard on May 30, 2007 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

From last thread:
I'm optimistic that we avoid the sweep today.  The sun is shining, temperature's rising, flowers are blooming... everything's coming up roses!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

And we're only 4 back in the loss column.
Hey, we need the mindset that we were 7 under 2 weeks ago, and we're on a tear.

Works for me on the golf course when I hit a shitty drive. I make believe it's a par 5 and I'm going for the green in 2. However, I am relatively simpleminded. But then again, this team doesn't seem to be made up of a bunch of rocket scientists. Dr. Erstad?

The game of baseball (really substitute any sport here) is played on a 2 1/2" by 2 1/2" square between your ears.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. I'm all for looking
at the positives at the 1/3 point.  You know, like if you're in a car accident and spend 6 months in a coma and with collapsed lungs, broken collar bone, and a metal plate in your head; it could've been worse!  Or put more succinctly:

Somewhere in this pile of crap there MUST be a pony!

Now on to sweep avoidance!
(Btw, at my age the square is down to 2 1/4 x 2 1/4.)

It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a group
we need to focus the beta waves on positives for this team.

Focus on the 5/21 & 5/22 Oakland games where we had 8 runs/14 hits and 10 runs/13 hits respectively.

FOCUS HARD.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

1st and 3rd? Good start!!!!!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Way to go, Jermaine!
Get those numbers up!  The Sox need to get something useful for you.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a feeling...
that the next 3 1/2 years are going to be pretty painful for Konerko fans.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he will bounce back next season...
but this season is definitely looking like a repeat of 2003.  His numbers look identical.

by SSH2005 on May 30, 2007 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to make a coomment
about our outfielders throwing arms, but I'm all positive today.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Per ballyb, I'll rephrase that:
"I'm sure Garland is enjoying his run".
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow.
According to Gameday, Baker threw a pitch low and outside with two strikes, and Crede didn't chase it.

I'm just going to assume that Gameday is broken.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow...
RBI double for Crede.  Nice.

by SSH2005 on May 30, 2007 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Btw, pretty good sidewalk
today, LaSalle & Jackson...
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. ICE looks real, especially
partnered with CBOE to provide $500K for the trading rights.  How could the members even think of a merger/sale to the Merc?

But I was referring to the sightseeing on a warm day...

It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

DOMO ORIGATO!!!!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

6 hits in 2 innings?
I think I am going to pop the champagne.

by SSH2005 on May 30, 2007 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to make a coomment
about our outfielders throwing arms, but I'm all positive today.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Positive:
the throw only bounced four times on the way to the plate!  Better than a five bouncer!

by randy77 on May 30, 2007 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

VG
I like, no I LOVE, your thinking.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

INJURY DELAY???`
or is Gameday whacko?
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Konerko went the other way!
Drink!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Paulie!!!!
Like a menstrual cycle: better late than never!!
Stayin' positive!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, Mackerena!!!!!!!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Now all we need
is to get the bench standing on the rail and rooting the team on!

Chicken or the egg?

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

You sell yourself short...
It's the positive vibes coming from SSS, not the cheerleading in the dugout!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was that another 2 out rally?
I'm on the rail rooting the team on!

by chrome on May 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Offense Explosion
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Baker
I thought he'd lock up the Sox today -- just 2 years ago he was one of the top 10 pitching prospects in the minors. How refreshing to see a Twins pitching prospect pitch like a Sox pitching prospect.

by hitlesswonder on May 30, 2007 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh my God...
I can't take these Twins' announcers.

Complaining about how the AJ/Morneau situation was blown out of proportion...

They were responsible for blowing it out of proportion!

Sheesh

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Was that supposed to be a bunt
for a base hit?

Why would you bunt a guy over down by 5 in the third?  Good to see the other team doing something stupid.

by chrome on May 30, 2007 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh noes!
Not the Canuck! IBB him!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Oops. He's on deck.
It's more than important that Cuddyer gets out here
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

6, 7 & 8 hitters
6-6 4R, 3RBI is this correct?

by Son of a Milkman on May 30, 2007 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

It's amazing
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being positive,
There must be some strategy I'm missing  to walking Punto for Cuddyer.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Dammit AJ
Go talk to your man
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

RIGHT NOW !
every memeber of the Sox lineup is hitting atleast .200 ! That must be the first time this year.

Things are looking up.

by White Sox Randy on May 30, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh. My. God.
I'd strongly consider walking Morneau here.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

And why not?
He's walking everyone else.

by the wolf on May 30, 2007 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

staying positive
no hits allowed so far this inning!

by Ryno on May 30, 2007 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

open mouth, insert foot
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

d'oh!
i'll take responsibility for that one.

by Ryno on May 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously...
6 runs is not enough.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

3 runs
on 1 hit

(Thanks Farmio)

President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

If Garland can't go 6 innings
we may be doomed. Masset went the distance yesterday. Who can go today?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

you're kidding, right?
we've got a 7 man bullpen.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the bullpen has been ravaged
Day, Logan, Masset have all been worked hard. Only pitchers that haven't are Thornton, Jenks, and Aardsma (?), ...

Who am I forgetting?

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know who you're forgetting
seems like it would be pretty easy to get 4 or five innings out of those guys. masset is probably unavailable, don't know if day pitched on sunday so maybe he's out, too, but the rest are all available and jenks, thornton, and mac are quite rested.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

"He that will not be named"
Doesn't count. Don't be silly.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

But....
Only Jenks and maybe Thornton are reliable. Well, actually, I guess everyone else has been relaibly bad lately. Anyway unless Garland goes 7 and keeps the lead, the Twins have a very good chance of winning this game. The Sox have a 2 man bullpen....

by hitlesswonder on May 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

eh
they can't be all bad all the time.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It only takes one of them
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez
plays 2nd, some left and long relief.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're kidding, right?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um...
  1. No injuries
  2. Minnesota didn't score (bit of a stretch since they were on defense)
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a crafty LHP
GAME OVER.

by Son of a Milkman on May 30, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Glass half full
Ya know, if they really tank, at least I won't have to fight those crowds at The Cell. Getting in and out of parking will be a breeze.
President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

And you won't miss an inning and a half
going to the bathroom.  Although that may not be a good thing...

by chrome on May 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Was that really Jonny
pitching a 1-2-3 groundball inning?

Positive!!!  Gnarly!!!  Rad!!!  Awesome!!!

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Holy Crap
Dye was out by 3 steps if that's caught
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone know?
Is the Almighty "Rocket" scheduled to pitch at The Cell on Monday? I may consider going to watch him get shelled.
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I've heard
that A-Rod's got a redhead lined up for his Chicago road trip

Scadalous!

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 30, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Toby Hall needs a BB or hit otherwise
we lose our all-.200+ lineup.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Guerrier in for the Twins
Guerre in French means war. So is Guerrier a warrior?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

We are gonna start calling
you Mr. French - like the guy in "Family Affair" (WAY before your time).

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must be before my time
Ya old fart.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I worry about this inning...
with Morneau and Hunter leading off.  Here's Jon's "money" inning.

by CWSKeith on May 30, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Worse
than Chris Singleton?
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't tell ya
I only barely remember how bad he was.  I haven't listened to the Sox radio in forever.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are godawful
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we can play him 60 million over next 4
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fortunately
that's one thing I doubt Kenny will do.

But some dumbass will.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn these filthy Piranha!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Leadoff walk and hit,
proper sacrifice, groundout scores one.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  What is so hard about this game?

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

In order of difficulty
Hitting
walking
grounding out
Lathering
Repeating
Rinsing
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 30, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's right Ozzie.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Like a proctoscope test?
Or he "turn your head and cough" test?

Either way, I'll pass.

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 runs on 5 hits?!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Usually they wait until the 8th
to blow.
President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Staying positive....
It was so long ago that we scored the 1st 6 runs, I bet the boys are ready to get it up again!

We will NOT be swept by the fishies!

It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh. now he will call the bullpen
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Embarrassing
Sox up five and blow it.  Anyone have confidence they'll score against the strong part of the Twinkie pen which has barely been used this series?

by CWSKeith on May 30, 2007 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Not so much
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can anyone recall
the Sox successfully getting out of a 2-out jam?
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man
I love watching Thome work.  No one wants a piece of him.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Positivity
The Sox are on the verge of becoming entertainingly bad.

by hitlesswonder on May 30, 2007 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

and people say this isn't exciting?
anything can happen!
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't help feeling a little bad...
After blowing a 6-1 lead and working now against the Twinkie's bullpen
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

at least you're feeling something?
excitement! intrigue! implosions!
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thornton
and give Jenks two innings today?

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

You assume...
That the Sox will score another and win.

Silly Colin.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD should not be so late on these fastballs
He definitely should be gone by the all star break.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Balls.
Neshek and Nathan means were going to the 10th at best, and that's assuming we can hold it.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Hold it?
We're in the "last 3 inning swoon" mode.

The Twins will take a 2-3 run lead here and that's all she wrote.

President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

"assuming"
doesn't imply any degree of confidence.  or at least it doesn't here.  because it's this effing team.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Sox pitchers
continue to fear the Punto.
It takes two to lie; one to lie and one to listen.

by Toonderstrook on May 30, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Erstad, Jr.
re: grindiness.  More like the Eckstein.  Little Nicky Punto - Bat-girl lives, and I'm sure is proud.

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 walks
to Nick F. Punto.

Just put me out of my misery.

by Ryno on May 30, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Fun Fact
Punto is Italian for "point."
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

This
is a mental thing...we are absolutely pathetic mentally since 2000 with this team. We are WEAK.

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was our record in 2005
against Stinkies?  I think we rocked their world.

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

gENERALLY
speaking, I don't think you can dispute we have been mentally/emotionally deficient with this team.

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listen,
there are exceptions to every rule...I hate to admit it, but there is NO QUESTION we wilt to any hint of pressure with this team....generally, I believe the mental thing is overblown and excuse-making, but, in this case, I don't believe so.

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, there are incontrovertable
rules (thermodynamics, for example) but if you are going to make blanket statements about how badly we've sucked mentally for 7 years running perhaps you might acknowledge the ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN BASEBALL THIS CITY HAS SEEN IN 87 YEARS as the exception.

You know, for old time's sake.  And to be positive.

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree
with you there.  There was a year in there somewhere, where we had the mental fortitude of great warriors.

by chrome on May 30, 2007 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn the P's!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dye's slugging
is not much higher than Pods when he left

(.488 compared to .455)

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amazing that Thornton got out of it...
after facing Cuddyer, Morneau, and Hunter.  But why the FUCK have we walked awful Little Nicky Punto 3 times today?

by SSH2005 on May 30, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Hall
0-4...book it.
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by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

9 pitches, 3 outs.
Efficient.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Positive!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Torri this series
Has probably contribued to 12 runs on offense, while taking away another 8 from us on defense.

That's a 20 run differential, by my calculations, meaning Torii Hunter has single-handedly beaten the White Sox this series.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

So what are the odds of ...
A Twinkee run and Joe Nathan comes in and makes this a miserable day. I hate being negative, but damn it this team is maddening to watch.
All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

There it is again!
the pink and purple back pack... probably belongs to Neshek.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Hall, Erstad, Gooch
Another 1-2-3
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Right Size... Wrong Shape
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, Thornton's done his job.
I say bring in Big Boy, tied or not to pitch the 9th and 10th (if needed).
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Why Not.
We need to win this game. Pitch him and let it ride. Hopefully we can hold serve and get past Nathan and steal it.
All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?
Sticky... Puppy is greater than Piranhas?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhh.
Had me confused there for a second.

I kinda liked the sticky puppy

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going for 4 pitches, 3 outs?
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

5 and 3.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

How close was that to out?
Game day indicated it was on or near the wall.

by Son of a Milkman on May 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Inches
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

macdougal?
game.

prove me wrong.

Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's it. No Mas. I'm out
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.
This is like the train wreck you just can't help looking at.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well he will be fresh
for another inning.

Great.

All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Reapeat after me.
We do not have to pitch to Cuddyer or Morneau in this inning.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

MacDougal in.
Game over.

I hope that this series was a wake-up call for anyone who still thinks this team is a contender.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Best Case Scenario:
Mac gives up at least 2 runs, pushes his ERA up to 8 or 9, and is shipped to minors
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've posted this multiple times
but I'm SURE that MacDougal is out of options. He's here to stay. Get over it.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 30, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah
he's been out of options for a while. the guy is like 30 and has been in the majors for 7 or 8 seasons.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad, but true
He'll never be shipped to the minors, barring an injury.

He's not likely to be released, too much salary invested...

Hrm.... that leaves a trade and an injury.

I've got a tire wrench.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure...
MacDougal is out of options.  He'd have to clear waivers (I don't know if he would or not, to be frank), and then would probably refuse the assignment and become a Free Agent.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

6.88 ERA
This is quite the opportunity for confidence-building for Mac.

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Will the end come with
a single swing or successive doubles?
President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

A double
and three walks.
All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd trade MacDougal
for a pitching machine right now.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Unfortunate he walked Tyner.
Now we're going to need to IBB Punto to get to Cuddyer.

by chrome on May 30, 2007 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

photoshop will keep me sane
and white sox love will tear me apart

again.

by colintj on May 30, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

So it begins
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Never compete with an Italian
with DEATH on the line!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!  

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

The Piranhas are unstoppable
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

boone logan
next best thing.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will you all exucuse me...
I need to step out into traffic.
All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah.
I love using MacDougal and Logan in the 9th.

Bobby will be well rested for mop-up duty in Toronto!

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on May 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

What retarded manager brings in MacDougal...
over Jenks in this situation.  The Twins bring in their closer and we bring in our worst reliever.  Ozzie is a dipshit.

by SSH2005 on May 30, 2007 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

bringing in Mac in any situation is retarded
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they can get out of this
I am leaving work...

by Son of a Milkman on May 30, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

If they get out of this
there's always the 10th.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Logan owns Morneau
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Logan and Morneau are nemesis's
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hunter
HARDLY EVER misses a chance to beat us...here it comes.....

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where's El Duque
when we need him?
President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

JRE
Still think Boone can't cut it as a LOOGY?

Still no Bobby?  This is awful managing.

by CWSKeith on May 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

It's still early.
I maintain the league will figure him out in a year or two.  Shingo Takatsu was a great reliever for a while, as well.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

boone logan, el duque's heir
that's what we get for doubting ozzie. ha.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Jenks hasnt pitched since last Friday
Now we trot Aarsdma out there.  Guillen must stop drinking and using that Santeria crap.  Does he consult a witch throwing bones and beheading chickens to get the bullpen matchups for the day.  

by southsideirish71 on May 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

They're buying time
so Aardsma can get ready.

BAW HAW HAW HAW!

Game over.

President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

AA? OHNO.
We don't need no stinkin' closer!
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait... I'm having flashbacks...
to two nights ago, when Logan got out Morneau, was pulled for Aardsma, who gave up a 2-3 run double to Hunter
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Jenks hurt, or hung over?
It takes two to lie; one to lie and one to listen.

by Toonderstrook on May 30, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

was thinking the same
unless bobby is hurt - don't see how that's possible - there is no reason for him to have not come in.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or to start the inning.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on May 30, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not a smart man,
but seriously Ozzie. What are you playing at? I love you Ozzie, but you are hurting my skull.
All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

HA HA
he's going to walk him in!
President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

How fitting.
It takes two to lie; one to lie and one to listen.

by Toonderstrook on May 30, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

lol
hilarious. this team just keeps coming up with new ways to make me laugh.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not in this fashion... not this way...
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Put down the tequila Ozzie...dumb ass.

Bobby's nice and rested now...good job.

President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

It's a shame Mac's ERA couldn't go up any higher
Would've liked to see a Torii Grand Slam more than a walk
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...
that was entertaining.

Does anyone still maintain that the Sox need to hold out hope for this season?  Not only has the pitching utterly collapsed, but the hitters can only score against AAAA pitchers.  This team is a complete disaster.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

How about that for a
belt sander to the nuts.

What a brillant way to blow a 6-1 lead and get swept.

All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!

by Boski93 on May 30, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

In the interest of staying positive,
IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE THAN THIS.

Bring on the Blue Jays.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

they suck
This team is god aweful.  The only thing im looking foward to is the fire sale.  Trade all of them. They blow

by rspata on May 30, 2007 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Look at the bright side
The Sox had all but one hitter with a BA over 200 in the lineup today...
Unfortunately its less of a fire sale and more of a garage sale now

by Brush Back on May 30, 2007 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

well, my friends.....
up 6-0, bullpen blows it and the final straw is a walk-off walk. we have more question marks than outfielders, with the worst offense in baseball.

we are through the looking glass, people. welcome to cubdom.

by thatshortkid on May 30, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

HR Hitting Contest Anyone?
Do the Sox players study the other team's relievers?  It seems to me that every Sox hitter swing for the fences as soon as the other team's relievers come in.  There is no plan of attack or taking of pitches.  69 pitches in 6 innings for the Twins relievers.

by squeegeeman on May 30, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

on that subject....
when the offense started its currently-going skid, we started calling for greg walker's head on a pike. now that the bullpen has proven itself mostly bunk, when do we get to call for st. coop's?

by thatshortkid on May 30, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

not quite sure it's the same
coop has a track record of success; walker does not. the hitting slump began last year; the current "pitching slump" began about three weeks ago. other than mac and jenks (maybe even thornton), we've got a bullpen full of rookies.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

They SUCK!!!
Up 4-0 and 6-1.

At what point does the team do a nutsack check and challenge themselves to close out a fucking game?

Way to obliterate your fan base Kenny & Ozzie...

No way to sugarcoat this bullshit loss...

by thekever on May 30, 2007 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

And another thing...
The TWINS went on a rampage at about this time last season.  Remember how that turned out, Sox fans?

Way to jump start their recovery, Ozzie!

by thekever on May 30, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

There
is an unmistakable deficiency mentally and emotionally with this team vs. the Twins...that ineptitude...and, yes, it IS a skill...permeates this team , spreading and growing like a fungus...someone has to make a stand, prefferably someone like Konerko, Crede or Thome...of course, there is a WHOLE LOT more wrong with this team, but that particular phenomenon has NOT been acknowledged....and so it is never addressed or fixed....know how you handle this sort of thing? You acknowlege it, immediately relieving pressure in the hope of enhancing performance...I mean A PUBLIC acknowledgement from someone that matters (not, Kenny, but someone in uniform...even Ozzie...this sort of thing can be tended to much easier than tyring to fix their well-documented personnel problems.

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck
the praise of the Twins....though IT IS deserved, it doesn't acknowledge our deficiency....we need to OWN the problem....I know, this sounds like a lot of psychobabble, but, I believe it deserves attention...quit laughing it off and stand up to this shit.

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I picture Grinstad near his locker
with a single grindy tear running down his cheek.
President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus H.
0-fer the Metrodome.  Positives:
  1.  10 hits?  (Who cares?)
  2.  Robert Jenks will be well rested for our 2nd half salary drive.
  3.  Um - Logan's our LOOGY!
  4.  Um - Mack homers!
  5.  Um - JD steals!
  6.  Um - aw, hell, it IS as bad as we thought.
Can a brother get a white flag?

by winningugly on May 30, 2007 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

It's hard to top that series in terms
of absolutely pathetic showings.  Get blown out twice, then blow a 5 run lead and lose by walking in a runner in the bottom of the ninth.

That performance should embarrass every single member of this team.  Garland for blowing a lead the offense gave him, the bullpen for continuing to breathe when they clearly should have lost that priviledge a long time ago, the offense for mailing it in for 6 innings against the MN bullpen, and Ozzie for being the typical dumbshit that he is.

by chrome on May 30, 2007 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Right on, Chrome...
The last three days of White Sox baseball were pathetic.

Can't wait to hear the lame ass, bullshit excuses about how tough it is to win in the Humpdome.

by thekever on May 30, 2007 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the day...
I've officially given up on the season.  I may still watch if I have nothing better to do.  I may still go out to the park a few times (hey, tickets will be cheap again).  I may even check the standings every once in a while.  But I have zero hope of this team doing anything this season.

All I ask is to be in contention until late in the season but this team cannot and will not be in the chase again until next April.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on May 30, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Royals smell blood
Just got done talking to some Royals fans.  They say they are coming for us and their stadium is going to be rocking on the 29th when they pass us for 4th place in the division.

by LVSoxFan on May 30, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Royals Fans...
can at least watch DeJesus, Buck, Teahen, etc. and have some hope for the future.  

We get to watch Jim Thome play out the end of his career.  Which is nice, I guess.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The all-important loss column (Hehe.)
What happened to the "we're only 5 back in the loss column" crowd?
It takes two to lie; one to lie and one to listen.

by Toonderstrook on May 30, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I never said that, exactly..
but I was positive about us having a chance to turn it around...until today.  I'm finished with this team.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on May 30, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the strength of schedule supporters
i guess that, so long as we fail to win more than 1 game per series, we'll help maintain our opponent's good records.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The
White Sox need to face up to what happens to them psychologically against the Twins. I don't believe they have the personnel currently to be a contender, but I've been wrong about that sort of thing before. What I do know is that you MIGHT change some dynamic from here forward that positively impacts this team.

by dantesox on May 30, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait til the day's over,
we might end up the day only 4 back in the loss column ; )

In case you didn't notice:

  1. Tampa Bay has one of its aces going against Detroit's weakest.
  2. The Indians are playing the toughest team in baseball.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

tampa has more than one ace?
news to me.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to this board's posts
prior the the 5/25 game, James Shields is one hot shit pitcher.

by ballyb on May 30, 2007 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shields and Kazmir
they both could be aces on a team with some offense.

by chrome on May 30, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

i guess ace gets thrown around a lot more than
it used to. in the past, it was something you earned.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe...
you guys are scoreboard-watching.  Only fans of contending teams need to watch the scoreboard.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know
it's probably more apt to call it "being a baseball fan." you know, when you like baseball, you watch it and follow it. therefore, you know who is playing and what their records are. interesting concept, huh.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by larry on May 30, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be disingenuous.
The OP was insinuating that it mattered whether or not Detroit and Cleveland won, not that they were generally interested in watching baseball games.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on May 30, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't give up
After the Sox DESTOYED them last year, the Cardinals looked like crap.  Yet they won the WS.  Granted, they were in a bad division.  Now lets hope the Indians', Tigers' and Twins' 3rd and 4th hitters go down - like Mags and Frank a few years ago, and also hope that the Sox plays 2 games over .500 the rest of the way.  They may still make the playoffs.

by squeegeeman on May 30, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

"Don't stop, believin'...
...hold on to that feelin'"

- sung badly at the White Sox WS Celebration, a long long long time ago

President - Johnny Dickshot Fan Club

by tailgater on May 30, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was my bad
Still comes out from time to time
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only in the vocal box
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on May 30, 2007 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

After the Sox destroyed them they went to Detroit
and got swept as well....so yes there is clearly precedent for picking oneself up and turning things around - it's just that there seem to be three better teams above us in the standings.

by randy77 on May 30, 2007 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

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