BP's Goldstein Taking Draft Questions
[editor's note, by The Cheat] This is now your draft thread.
The chat is here and thus far he hasn't taken any White Sox questions, so I've posted a few with the hopes of getting his thoughts. His mock draft has us taking th prep RHP Tim Alderson despite the fact that Rick Porcello (caveat: Boras client) and U-FLA star Matt Laporta, whom I've latched onto as a potential impact bat who could move quickly through the organization. We haven't taken a position player in the first round in forever, so, despite Laporta's 1B/DH future, I hope that's who we roll.
Edit: I got my answer...
"Colin (Chicago): Another college pitcher for the Sox when their cupboard is totally bare when it comes to hitters? Everyone who can contribute as a hitter is at AAA and has seen action in the big leagues (with Fields just having been called up) with the exception of High-A Aaron Cunningham and Low-A Chris Carter. None of the above project to be stars. How can the Sox pass up a college masher like Laporta?Kevin Goldstein: The mandate is a power arm. That's Alderson (who is high school). Matt LaPorta is a 1b/dh type, and the White Sox have plenty of those."
We have plenty of really really old ones, but none whom I'd actually peg as all star contributors 3 years from now, which is what Laporta very well could be. But then, what do I know. Still I'm somewhat unsatisfied with his answer.Update [2007-6-7 12:58:18 by The Cheat]: The draft starts in an hour, televised on ESPN2 for the first time. In the past, picks took only 20-30 seconds, and they ended up getting through about 19 rounds on the first day. With the extra time (teams are now alloted 5 minutes), it's expected that they won't get past the 5th or 6th round today. This will have the effect of having some real talent who has slipped for whatever reason on the board at the end of Day 1. Teams will now be scrambling to work out some deals with guys who have slipped for above slot in those first two rounds on Day 2.
I expect the Sox to have no trouble signing their picks this year, as they only have 2 of the top 100. They should be able to toss some extra money at guys who have fallen. Callis has the Sox taking Justin Jackson (video), a HS SS and a bit of a reach (BA ranks him around the 50th best prospect), with their pick in the first round.
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It's a fair answer
I like the sounds of an Alderson. He sounds like a guy the Twins would draft (thought they like College pitchers) good fastball, great control, good/developing secondary pitches. (Video)
Is it just me
On that clip what exactly are the two numbers in the blue box? Speed at release and speed at the plate or something?
Bryan Smith's mock
has us taking Russell, who is a a reach because of strike zone issue, but has incredible power.
Callis's take
Projected Pick: Justin Jackson, ss, Roberson HS, Asheville, N.C.
I can't view it from work
by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 7, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
My initial thought as well
The top 100 prospects
shaffer
Fuck You ESPN!
Put it on TV fine, but 5 FUCKING minutes, is forever when there's no chance of a trade and maybe one of these guys will be on a major league team next year.
Cubs will take Vitters
all i've heard
yea i was shocked
Blame KC
Expect only 6-10 rounds today
let's see
will the sox
Wow
Wow
its been college heavy
sox are sure to have a shot at a high upside sr.
say that 5 times fast.
by Gus on Jun 7, 2007 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
I heard the Sox were going to take...
*pretends to have a clue
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions
He's the top HS arm in the draft
The Sox want a player like him, but they're not going to spend that much to sign him, though I do think they'll go above slot if necessary. They're just not going to go that much over the recomemded bonuses because of JR's relationship with Bud.
In other words, he'll go to the first big market team willing to pay and who doesn't mind feeling the heat of Bud. I'd guess the Rangers, Angels (I don't think they have a 1st rounder), Yankees, Red Sox are the likely destination.
Texas
Judging by pick 17
pay the fuckin money!
The dude is fuckin' amazing.
by Option27 @ South Side Sox on Jun 7, 2007 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Won't happen.
(2) Won't take "slot" money. Reinsdorf won't go against Selig on this issue.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
With it down to Jays, Giants, Padres, Rangers before the Sox pick, I'm feeling more confident that Porcello will be there. If the Sox really have changed their draft philosophy, he'd be there pick. I don't expect that to happen, however.
but shaffer said
Porcello!!!
by Option27 @ South Side Sox on Jun 7, 2007 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
Alderson to SF
I'm getting nervous
Alright, are we up yet or what?
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
Good
Fuckin Main
by Option27 @ South Side Sox on Jun 7, 2007 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
Porcello
by Option27 @ South Side Sox on Jun 7, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Porcello has 4 pitches
BA says
School: San Francisco. Class: Jr.
B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-6. Wt.: 240. Birthdate: 10/1/86.
Scouting Report: Poreda wasn't on the radar screen in high school; he focused more on football as a defensive end/tight end. He did pitch a bit, even tossing a no-hitter, but was awkward and had suspect arm action. In three seasons at San Francisco working with pitching coach Greg Moore, however, he has developed into a first-round candidate and one of the nation's hardest-throwing lefthanders. Poreda works off the fastball almost as much as UC Riverside's James Simmons (No. 47), and like Simmons, it's his only above-average pitch. While his fastball was flat and 89-90 mph in his 2007 opener, he has been consistently in the low 90s since then, touching 96-97 and regularly hitting 94. He throws plenty of strikes (though he lacks true command), and with his 6-foot-6, 240-pound frame, he should prove durable. He doesn't pitch as downhill as he should at his size, in part because of his low three-quarters arm slot. Poreda's arm action and lower slot make his breaking ball a fringe-average pitch at best, though it has improved. He has the makings of a changeup but hasn't thrown it much, sticking to his fastball. He had experimented with a higher slot to aid his breaking ball, but the move cost his fastball some of its late life and was back to his old slot.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 6 2.89 14 0 100 93 18 66
Oh, great...
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
A guy with one pitch who didn't come close to striking out a batter per inning in College? That sure does sound like a change from the guys we've selected previously who recorded strikeouts in college, but didn't have stuff.
Your cable out too?
Just got it back.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
milb.com's
Fastball: Poreda's only true pitch, but it's plus-plus. He gained 6-7 mph on it this season and was throwing it comfortably at 95-96 mph.
Didn't take long for the sniping to begin
by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 7, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahahahaha.
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
God Forbid
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree -
John Manuel's comment
Posted Jun. 7, 2007 3:30 pm by John Manuel
Filed under: Draft Day: June 7
After two years of taking pitchers better known for strike-throwing rather than stuff, the White Sox took San Francisco lefty Aaron Poreda, who instantly becomes one of if not the hardest thrower in the organization. He's topped out at 97 mph and has a big, physical frame, and fits in with the organization's appreciation of lefthanders.
Imagine a future White Sox rotation with lefties John Danks, Mark Buehrle, Gio Gonzalez and Poreda in it . . . that's not bad.
The A's probably are fuming that Poreda's off the board because he fills up the strike zone with power stuff, and would have been a nice find at 26. The A's have taken high school players high the last couple of years, and Georgia lefty Josh Smoker-whose stock fell in late May-is the highest-ranked non-Boras client on the board.
Fuckin Tigers
by Option27 @ South Side Sox on Jun 7, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
Criminy
The Tigers...
I honestly don't know enough about these guys to make a judgment about the pick.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, none of us do.
Ugh.
To be fair...
They never said that signability wasn't an issue.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Instead
I really cant see whats wrong with a high school kid with 4 pitches and a very high ceiling.
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Who would...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
a high school kid with 4 pitches?
3 good pitches
Weaknesses: Command of his breaking pitchers hasn't always been there in the past, though it was not an issue in this outing. Pitching in the Northeast, he doesn't get to pitch during the season as much as his colleagues in southern California or Florida.
from the milb website
thats better than what poreda had, check out his page on milb.
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Sox are poor?
Tellin' me they couldn't afford this kid?
Sheeeeeeeit.
I'm kinda upset. I wanted this kid.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been hearing
Sox 2nd round pick
45. Nevin Griffith, rhp
School: Middleton HS, Tampa. Class: Sr.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 180. Birthdate: 3/23/89.
Scouting Report: The quintessential projectable high school pitcher, Griffith showed all the ingredients of a premium prospect as an underclassman and put it all together this spring. He solidified his status as a high-round pick by dominating in two showdowns with crosstown rival Michael Burgess and Hillsborough High, the first of which was the buzz of amateur baseball for weeks. Griffith is long, lean and athletic with a whippy arm action. He has improved his balance over the rubber and better incorporated his lower half in his delivery, and his velocity spiked, touching 96 mph and humming along at 90-92 with sink on most nights. His 80-84 mph slider is a plus pitch at times, and he throws a more traditional curveball as well. He has feel for a changeup that he can keep down in the zone. Outside of inconsistency and fatigue, there isn't much to knock on Griffith, who profiles as a middle-of-the-rotation starter and should be drafted in the supplemental round.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 2 0.92 11 1 68 36 18 119
I'm not taking much...
Sox 3rd Round pick
From Homewood-Flossmoor. My alma mater.
76. John Ely, rhp
School: Miami (Ohio). Class: Jr.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-1. Wt.: 190. Birthdate: 5/13/86.
Scouting Report: Ely can't fill out a uniform or light up a radar gun as well as his Miami teammate Connor Graham can, but he has outperformed Graham in college and in the Cape Cod League and has a better chance to be a major league starter. Ely is just 6-foot-1 and 190 pounds, and he has a head jerk in his maximum-effort delivery. His stuff is hard to argue with, however. His 89-94 mph fastball and his vastly improved changeup both qualify as plus pitches, and his curve is an average offering. Though he lacks smooth mechanics, he throws strikes and has a resilient arm that never has given him problems. His delivery also gives him deception that makes him harder to hit. Ely also is an intense competitor who helped his cause by pitching a complete-game seven-hitter at Texas in March. Though Graham scores better in what the NFL would call "measurables," Ely should get drafted slightly ahead of him, probably in the second round.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 3 2.94 12 0 89 83 21 81
Hunh.
But I consider my alma mater to be my college. High school blows goats.
by logansquaresox on Jun 7, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
according to reifert
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/inside_the_white_sox/2007/06/inside_the_draf.html
I can has opinyun!
Sox 4th round pick
167. Leroy Hunt, rhp
School: Sacramento CC. Class: So.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-6. Wt.: 220. Birthdate: 11/28/87.
Scouting Report: The Reds drafted Hunt in 2005 as an outfielder out of high school and followed him to Sacramento City College. He had enormous raw power as a hitter but never seemed to get comfortable at the plate against good velocity, so Sac City moved him to the mound to take advantage of his arm strength. While he remains raw, Hunt has one of the best fastballs in the state. It has heavy sink and boring armside run, and Hunt throws it in the 90-94 mph range, touching 95 at times. His secondary stuff (slider, changeup) is almost nonexistent, but that didn't stop him from a 40-inning scoreless streak this spring, including a pair of outings against better-regarded Matt Thompson of Santa Rosa (Calif.) Junior College. Hunt needs to develop either his slider or changeup to have a second pitch, a concern because he hasn't shown much aptitude so far. He's committed to Oral Roberts, but should be an easy sign. With his intimidating size (6-foot-6, 220 pounds) and fastball, he profiles as a power reliever.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 3 1.87 15 1 72 50 22 76
I don't know how to link his video
Freal
Bull Pain...
Right on cue
I wonder...
The Tigers
Sox 5th round pick
Nathan Jones, rhp, Northern Kentucky
Not in BA top 200 and ranked 9th among KY prospects, but he's the 3rd to get drafted.
http://www.nku.edu/~athletics/MBaseball/2007/Players/njones.html
era w-l app-gs cg sho sv ip h r er bb so
2.88 4-5 16-7 2 0/1 2 56.1 37 26 18 38 60
This is too easy
Oh, come on now, nobody's heard of the Supremes?
New drinking game tonight (proposed)
dammit!
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No hitters so far
Plus Micah Schnurstein is really progressing.
Although Ryan Sweeney is all hype. I was was drinking the kool-aid, but not anymore. He's the next Sean Burroughs, Wally Joyner
White sox fans are still watch televised games?
Wally Joyner
Sweeney is supposed to replace Dye in right field for 08. I don't like that premise. He's a 20 hr a year RF without speed. YUCK
Wally wasn't that good
HIS STATS
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=1716
Plus he is a admitted steroid user.
http://pearly-gates.blogspot.com/2005/11/wally-joyner-admits-steroid-use.html
i'm confused about what you're talking about
Cunningham's is gonna be good but.....
I don't know who's bat is slower his or Joe Borchard's

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