BP's Goldstein Taking Draft Questions
[editor's note, by The Cheat] This is now your draft thread.
The chat is here and thus far he hasn't taken any White Sox questions, so I've posted a few with the hopes of getting his thoughts. His mock draft has us taking th prep RHP Tim Alderson despite the fact that Rick Porcello (caveat: Boras client) and U-FLA star Matt Laporta, whom I've latched onto as a potential impact bat who could move quickly through the organization. We haven't taken a position player in the first round in forever, so, despite Laporta's 1B/DH future, I hope that's who we roll.
Edit: I got my answer...
"Colin (Chicago): Another college pitcher for the Sox when their cupboard is totally bare when it comes to hitters? Everyone who can contribute as a hitter is at AAA and has seen action in the big leagues (with Fields just having been called up) with the exception of High-A Aaron Cunningham and Low-A Chris Carter. None of the above project to be stars. How can the Sox pass up a college masher like Laporta?Kevin Goldstein: The mandate is a power arm. That's Alderson (who is high school). Matt LaPorta is a 1b/dh type, and the White Sox have plenty of those."
We have plenty of really really old ones, but none whom I'd actually peg as all star contributors 3 years from now, which is what Laporta very well could be. But then, what do I know. Still I'm somewhat unsatisfied with his answer.Update [2007-6-7 12:58:18 by The Cheat]: The draft starts in an hour, televised on ESPN2 for the first time. In the past, picks took only 20-30 seconds, and they ended up getting through about 19 rounds on the first day. With the extra time (teams are now alloted 5 minutes), it's expected that they won't get past the 5th or 6th round today. This will have the effect of having some real talent who has slipped for whatever reason on the board at the end of Day 1. Teams will now be scrambling to work out some deals with guys who have slipped for above slot in those first two rounds on Day 2.
I expect the Sox to have no trouble signing their picks this year, as they only have 2 of the top 100. They should be able to toss some extra money at guys who have fallen. Callis has the Sox taking Justin Jackson (video), a HS SS and a bit of a reach (BA ranks him around the 50th best prospect), with their pick in the first round.
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It's a fair answer
I like the sounds of an Alderson. He sounds like a guy the Twins would draft (thought they like College pitchers) good fastball, great control, good/developing secondary pitches. (Video)
by The Cheat on Jun 6, 2007 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
On that clip what exactly are the two numbers in the blue box? Speed at release and speed at the plate or something?
by jeeves on Jun 6, 2007 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryan Smith's mock
has us taking Russell, who is a a reach because of strike zone issue, but has incredible power.
by The Cheat on Jun 6, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Callis's take
Projected Pick: Justin Jackson, ss, Roberson HS, Asheville, N.C.
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone post a scouting report on Jackson?
by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 7, 2007 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
here
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't view it from work
by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 7, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My initial thought as well
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mlb drafttracker
btw, here's justin jackson's video's mms link
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The top 100 prospects
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shaffer
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck You ESPN!
Put it on TV fine, but 5 FUCKING minutes, is forever when there's no chance of a trade and maybe one of these guys will be on a major league team next year.
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cubbies are up
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs will take Vitters
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all i've heard
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parker won't be around at 25
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i was shocked
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame KC
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expect only 6-10 rounds today
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
let's see
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
will the sox
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nevermind about laporta
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I bumped the draft thread
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its been college heavy
sox are sure to have a shot at a high upside sr.
say that 5 times fast.
by Gus on Jun 7, 2007 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Parker to D-backs
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard the Sox were going to take...
*pretends to have a clue
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least we got our Georgh Muresan moment
Well, no.
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cheat, where do you see porcello going?
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the top HS arm in the draft
The Sox want a player like him, but they're not going to spend that much to sign him, though I do think they'll go above slot if necessary. They're just not going to go that much over the recomemded bonuses because of JR's relationship with Bud.
In other words, he'll go to the first big market team willing to pay and who doesn't mind feeling the heat of Bud. I'd guess the Rangers, Angels (I don't think they have a 1st rounder), Yankees, Red Sox are the likely destination.
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judging by pick 17
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pay the fuckin money!
The dude is fuckin' amazing.
by Option27 on Jun 7, 2007 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't happen.
(2) Won't take "slot" money. Reinsdorf won't go against Selig on this issue.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes Withrow
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
With it down to Jays, Giants, Padres, Rangers before the Sox pick, I'm feeling more confident that Porcello will be there. If the Sox really have changed their draft philosophy, he'd be there pick. I don't expect that to happen, however.
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but shaffer said
by larry on Jun 7, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Alderson for us
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alderson to SF
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting nervous
by bhoov on Jun 7, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, are we up yet or what?
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuckin Main
by Option27 on Jun 7, 2007 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Frickin commercials
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the central is an arms race
by beautox on Jun 7, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Porcello has 4 pitches
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BA says
School: San Francisco. Class: Jr.
B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-6. Wt.: 240. Birthdate: 10/1/86.
Scouting Report: Poreda wasn't on the radar screen in high school; he focused more on football as a defensive end/tight end. He did pitch a bit, even tossing a no-hitter, but was awkward and had suspect arm action. In three seasons at San Francisco working with pitching coach Greg Moore, however, he has developed into a first-round candidate and one of the nation's hardest-throwing lefthanders. Poreda works off the fastball almost as much as UC Riverside's James Simmons (No. 47), and like Simmons, it's his only above-average pitch. While his fastball was flat and 89-90 mph in his 2007 opener, he has been consistently in the low 90s since then, touching 96-97 and regularly hitting 94. He throws plenty of strikes (though he lacks true command), and with his 6-foot-6, 240-pound frame, he should prove durable. He doesn't pitch as downhill as he should at his size, in part because of his low three-quarters arm slot. Poreda's arm action and lower slot make his breaking ball a fringe-average pitch at best, though it has improved. He has the makings of a changeup but hasn't thrown it much, sticking to his fastball. He had experimented with a higher slot to aid his breaking ball, but the move cost his fastball some of its late life and was back to his old slot.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 6 2.89 14 0 100 93 18 66
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, great...
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap
A guy with one pitch who didn't come close to striking out a batter per inning in College? That sure does sound like a change from the guys we've selected previously who recorded strikeouts in college, but didn't have stuff.
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your cable out too?
Just got it back.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we picked gavin floyd?
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
milb.com's
Fastball: Poreda's only true pitch, but it's plus-plus. He gained 6-7 mph on it this season and was throwing it comfortably at 95-96 mph.
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poreda is a lhp
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't take long for the sniping to begin
by Big Daddy Kool on Jun 7, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha.
by defensive indifference on Jun 7, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God Forbid
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more draft for me.. 2 1/2 hours is enough
by marco054 on Jun 7, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree -
by Brush Back on Jun 7, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Manuel's comment
Posted Jun. 7, 2007 3:30 pm by John Manuel
Filed under: Draft Day: June 7
After two years of taking pitchers better known for strike-throwing rather than stuff, the White Sox took San Francisco lefty Aaron Poreda, who instantly becomes one of if not the hardest thrower in the organization. He's topped out at 97 mph and has a big, physical frame, and fits in with the organization's appreciation of lefthanders.
Imagine a future White Sox rotation with lefties John Danks, Mark Buehrle, Gio Gonzalez and Poreda in it . . . that's not bad.
The A's probably are fuming that Poreda's off the board because he fills up the strike zone with power stuff, and would have been a nice find at 26. The A's have taken high school players high the last couple of years, and Georgia lefty Josh Smoker-whose stock fell in late May-is the highest-ranked non-Boras client on the board.
by indianguy30 on Jun 7, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poreda
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
by The Cheat on Jun 7, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuckin Tigers
by Option27 on Jun 7, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Criminy
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers...
I honestly don't know enough about these guys to make a judgment about the pick.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, none of us do.
by palehose67 on Jun 7, 2007 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
They never said that signability wasn't an issue.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instead
I really cant see whats wrong with a high school kid with 4 pitches and a very high ceiling.
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 7, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a high school kid with 4 pitches?
by larry on Jun 7, 2007 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 good pitches
Weaknesses: Command of his breaking pitchers hasn't always been there in the past, though it was not an issue in this outing. Pitching in the Northeast, he doesn't get to pitch during the season as much as his colleagues in southern California or Florida.
from the milb website
thats better than what poreda had, check out his page on milb.
by omnipotent grab on Jun 7, 2007 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course it's better
by larry on Jun 7, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Sox are poor?
Tellin' me they couldn't afford this kid?
Sheeeeeeeit.
I'm kinda upset. I wanted this kid.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a Boras client
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been hearing
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox 2nd round pick
45. Nevin Griffith, rhp
School: Middleton HS, Tampa. Class: Sr.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 180. Birthdate: 3/23/89.
Scouting Report: The quintessential projectable high school pitcher, Griffith showed all the ingredients of a premium prospect as an underclassman and put it all together this spring. He solidified his status as a high-round pick by dominating in two showdowns with crosstown rival Michael Burgess and Hillsborough High, the first of which was the buzz of amateur baseball for weeks. Griffith is long, lean and athletic with a whippy arm action. He has improved his balance over the rubber and better incorporated his lower half in his delivery, and his velocity spiked, touching 96 mph and humming along at 90-92 with sink on most nights. His 80-84 mph slider is a plus pitch at times, and he throws a more traditional curveball as well. He has feel for a changeup that he can keep down in the zone. Outside of inconsistency and fatigue, there isn't much to knock on Griffith, who profiles as a middle-of-the-rotation starter and should be drafted in the supplemental round.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 2 0.92 11 1 68 36 18 119
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
John Sickels loves him
by asinwreck on Jun 7, 2007 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sickels picked him first in his twins sim draft
by The Wizard on Jun 7, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not taking much...
by CWSKeith on Jun 7, 2007 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's in HS
by larry on Jun 7, 2007 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox 3rd Round pick
From Homewood-Flossmoor. My alma mater.
76. John Ely, rhp
School: Miami (Ohio). Class: Jr.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-1. Wt.: 190. Birthdate: 5/13/86.
Scouting Report: Ely can't fill out a uniform or light up a radar gun as well as his Miami teammate Connor Graham can, but he has outperformed Graham in college and in the Cape Cod League and has a better chance to be a major league starter. Ely is just 6-foot-1 and 190 pounds, and he has a head jerk in his maximum-effort delivery. His stuff is hard to argue with, however. His 89-94 mph fastball and his vastly improved changeup both qualify as plus pitches, and his curve is an average offering. Though he lacks smooth mechanics, he throws strikes and has a resilient arm that never has given him problems. His delivery also gives him deception that makes him harder to hit. Ely also is an intense competitor who helped his cause by pitching a complete-game seven-hitter at Texas in March. Though Graham scores better in what the NFL would call "measurables," Ely should get drafted slightly ahead of him, probably in the second round.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 3 2.94 12 0 89 83 21 81
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
according to reifert
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/inside_the_white_sox/2007/06/inside_the_draf.html
by larry on Jun 7, 2007 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can has opinyun!
by colintj on Jun 7, 2007 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox 4th round pick
167. Leroy Hunt, rhp
School: Sacramento CC. Class: So.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-6. Wt.: 220. Birthdate: 11/28/87.
Scouting Report: The Reds drafted Hunt in 2005 as an outfielder out of high school and followed him to Sacramento City College. He had enormous raw power as a hitter but never seemed to get comfortable at the plate against good velocity, so Sac City moved him to the mound to take advantage of his arm strength. While he remains raw, Hunt has one of the best fastballs in the state. It has heavy sink and boring armside run, and Hunt throws it in the 90-94 mph range, touching 95 at times. His secondary stuff (slider, changeup) is almost nonexistent, but that didn't stop him from a 40-inning scoreless streak this spring, including a pair of outings against better-regarded Matt Thompson of Santa Rosa (Calif.) Junior College. Hunt needs to develop either his slider or changeup to have a second pitch, a concern because he hasn't shown much aptitude so far. He's committed to Oral Roberts, but should be an easy sign. With his intimidating size (6-foot-6, 220 pounds) and fastball, he profiles as a power reliever.
W L ERA G SV IP H BB SO
7 3 1.87 15 1 72 50 22 76
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to link his video
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freal
by colintj on Jun 7, 2007 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bull Pain...
by CWSKeith on Jun 7, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right on cue
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
by asinwreck on Jun 7, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers
by asinwreck on Jun 7, 2007 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox 5th round pick
Nathan Jones, rhp, Northern Kentucky
Not in BA top 200 and ranked 9th among KY prospects, but he's the 3rd to get drafted.
http://www.nku.edu/~athletics/MBaseball/2007/Players/njones.html
era w-l app-gs cg sho sv ip h r er bb so
2.88 4-5 16-7 2 0/1 2 56.1 37 26 18 38 60
by Bull Pain on Jun 7, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is too easy
Oh, come on now, nobody's heard of the Supremes?
by winningugly on Jun 7, 2007 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New drinking game tonight (proposed)
by winningugly on Jun 7, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dammit!
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 7, 2007 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leroy Hunt
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No hitters so far
Plus Micah Schnurstein is really progressing.
Although Ryan Sweeney is all hype. I was was drinking the kool-aid, but not anymore. He's the next Sean Burroughs, Wally Joyner
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wally Joyner
by shaftr on Jun 7, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
White sox fans are still watch televised games?
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wally Joyner
Sweeney is supposed to replace Dye in right field for 08. I don't like that premise. He's a 20 hr a year RF without speed. YUCK
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wally wasn't that good
HIS STATS
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=1716
Plus he is a admitted steroid user.
http://pearly-gates.blogspot.com/2005/11/wally-joyner-admits-steroid-use.html
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm confused about what you're talking about
by larry on Jun 7, 2007 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry larry
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like our draft alot better than our rival Detroi
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham's is gonna be good but.....
I don't know who's bat is slower his or Joe Borchard's
by chisox on Jun 7, 2007 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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