What velocity drop Ned? He's fine. He hit 94 on Sunday.
Tony Jackson of the LA Daily News says the Dodgers have shifted their focus away from acquiring a bat to a pitcher. One of the pitchers they're looking at is KC's Octavio Dotel:
A source close to the White Sox said the club might want Dodgers shortstop prospect Chin-lung Hu, the Most Valuable Player of Sunday's All-Star Futures Game. But Hu is another player the Dodgers aren't likely to deal.
In other things, Jim has some timely videos: Ehren Wassermann, Carlos Vasquez and Paulino Reynoso. And Jeeves tries to pick Kenny's mind.
Update: It's Wassermann:
As SSH2005 mentioned, Phil Rogers says that Arizona was showcasing Conor Jackson at LF for the Sox on Monday. They're also shopping Carlos Quentin. And with the emergence of Justin Upton they may consider moving Chris Young.
And a little plug. The other day I downloaded the latest release of SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey is the continuation of the Mozilla Web Browser. One of the new features I find most useful is the real time spellchecker (it wasn't build in previous releases). It spellchecks every form you fill, like the message boxes here and in every other message board. If you type something that's misspelled, it underlines it with a red line, so you can fix it before hitting post. Very useful.
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SeaMonkey is a web browser
I mentioned it because I find the real time spellchecker
maybe firefox has it too
I don't know because I haven't tried firefox any time lately
I did once (I think a couple years ago), didn't like it and kept kept mozilla/seamonkey
Also, Hu pretty much fits the bill
I can't help it -
- Ringmaster Ned on Bozo's Circus.
- Ned Beatty in "Deliverance".
So I can't take this seriously.
What about ned
Wasserman #62 - Official
Excuse me if this was already posted
Sorry - correct link
RotoWorld mini-article
I think they want Garland...
Garland, Dye, and a pitching prospect for Jackson and Quentin?
Garland
But to give up Garland I would want another prospect (Callaspo?). Wouldn't mind throwing JD in there to clear room for quentin/jackson, but definitely no pitching prospect (unless you consider heath phillips a prospect!)
I honestly don't think that...
Quentin has been mediocre in the majors but Jackson was good last season and is having a good season this year (albeit, with little power). They are both still young as well and are making nothing. I think that is a bit much to ask for a season and a half of Garland.
We'll have to agree to disagree and....
Remember Ted Lilly got 10 million a year for 4 years. In some ways a 1.5-2 year contract for a pitcher is a good thing. Long enough to get value form him, but short enough to avoid sig. injury risk.
The Garcia trade was panned on the Sox end...
I could see Garland and Dye possibly netting Jackson and Quentin (I still think we would need to throw in a prospect) but I don't see Garland alone being worth Jackson, Quentin, plus a prospect like Callapso. That seems ridiculous to me -- we would be getting three starting position players from Arizona for a year and a half of Garland.
I might check your history
Yep, that's what I meant...
And honestly, with the way Sweeney...
What an effin' merry-go-round
I'm getting the bends. And yet Pablito and Pods are rooted like effin' oaks.
What use would we have for either
Who the F
draft position and bud/reinsdorf
And a number of their draft picks are struggling (Jackson, Quentin) which is why they're available. And of course We DID draft one of their developing young players. Oh and although they have a number of position prospects they have almost no pitching prospects. They would kill to have Danks, Gio and Fautino. Of course I still rank their system well ahead of ours (if only because of Upton), just pointing out their system does have holes.
All told I don't think evaluation of talent has played a huge role in the difference's between our farm systems.
Now Minnesota? You might have a point there.
They may not lack young pitching for long
by hitlesswonder on Jul 17, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
no way
Well, I wouldn't do it...
I would consider dealing Danks for MLB players at hard to fill positions. Danks for Salty and Escobar...that would be a deal I'd consider.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 17, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly...
I keep hearing that he'll develop power, but until he does, he's not a very valuable player.
I'd gladly give up Contreras for him. One of the younger guys, not so much.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 17, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Then you may as well trash the trade rumor...
Arizona has their choice of Contreras or Garland.
how does that make any sense?
Mike Rizzo until last August
Mike Rizzo used to be a White Sox scout.
He must not be grindy enough
Perhaps he can earn the honor
red herring
1908
Sure, it was 99 years ago, but what the hell.
he did throw a spitball
Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale were
See, I think the line o' demarcation was when pitchers didn't have to bat any more. So the NL pitchers are definitely grindier than the AL pitchers.
We can jest now
As we all know, those guys didn't get paid much, they actually loved the game and they didn't like to be f***ed with.
Steve Dahl
When I think of fecal greaseballs
Ha!
He's had 372 at bats over two seasons and has hit an "Anderson-esque" .239/.287/.425 for a .712 OPS in a hitters park in the weaker league. he's a worse option that Terrero at this point.
Looks like another Jeremy Reed, folks. Does Kenny know when to deal 'em, or what?
Actually, Kenny could probably reacquire Jeremy Reed for a "C" prospect like Lucas Harrell or a bum like Masset. What would it take to get Young? McCulloch or Broadway might do it, and Tadahito certainly would.
Also, look at how far Carlos Quentin has fallen: .210/.299/.350 in 200 ABs. What would it take to get the both of them and hope for a bounceback?
i haven't watch much d-backs this year
Did you load up on QCOM,
You've got to be kidding...
Iguchi would certainly be enough for Chris Young?
Especially when Arizona has both...
Because I don't follow the Braves
Escobar would make a lot of sense for us...
Anyone
Wow, Richar with a 2-run homer...
I've also noticed
On the plus side, he's really increased his walk rate lately, and showed a better-than-expected batting eye in his brief call-up this year. I think he'll continue to walk more in the future.
I'd expect a .265/.310/.350 line if he played in the bigs next year, maybe .285/.345/.385 in his second season before finally starting to put together something like .290/.370/.450 around age 25 or so..
I was actually hoping that meant
Kelly Johnson
Man, look at Kelly Johnson's line on the season...
They are definitely showcasing Yunel Escobar.
Agreed - I watch him on TBS
We don't need Kelly Johnson...
Define "tearing it up"
Are all of these teams showcasing for us?
The Rockies probably just wanted a long man for the next couple of days after Taylor Buchholz's poor outing Monday. Jimenez, who had a 5.85 ERA in 19 starts in the minors, could return to Triple-A when Brian Fuentes is activated.
If the Sox are dealing Vazquez or Garland...
by hitlesswonder on Jul 17, 2007 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one getting ancy?
Agreed, I can't wait to see some...
But I don't see Kenny trading either Thornton or MacDougal. Both are locked up to cheap deals, have good stuff, and could easily have good bounceback 2008 seasons. Remember, MacDougal was dealing with a minor injury (although that could be a good reason for trading him). But I don't think that I would trade them either. Why sell low on them when they have a lot more potential than what they have shown this season? It's not like they are expensive.
Kenny should look to trade Dye, Contreras, Mackowiak, Iguchi, and possibly Garland. And if Kenny thinks that he can extend Garland, he should probably look to deal Vazquez instead.
1 of Garland or Vazquez must go
by omnipotent grab on Jul 17, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope he doesnt let good deals pass
by omnipotent grab on Jul 17, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Re. tonight's game.
Byrd is 6-2 with a 4.61 ERA in 10 career starts against Chicago.
vs.
Jon Garland (7-6, 3.85 ERA).
Garland is 7-10 lifetime when facing Cleveland, and 4-5 with a 6.03 ERA at Jacobs Field.
Conor Jackson
I like this kid, hes 24, and is starting to figure it out. Hes only got 26 Ks in 244 ABs on the year. Him and Quentin would absolutely be worth Garland. The D-Backs have tons of guys Id take with Jackson for Garland.
by Gus on Jul 17, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
Garland for Conor Jackson and Carlos Quentin...
LF Conor Jackson
CF Ryan Sweeney / Luis Terrero platoon
RF Carlos Quentin
Me likey.
No shit.
I think I would make that deal as well...
Arizona does not need a starter
- B. Webb
- R. Johnson-out till end of July, Yusmeiro Petit filling in
- L. Hernandez
- D. Davis
- M. Owings
that
Well
Yusmeiro Petit a projected #1 starter in the big leagues is handling himself very well in place of Randy. He still only 23. I can easily put two and two together and gather that this showcasing does not involve one of our starters. Arizona's offence has been absolutely dismal of late that need a experienced run producer to plug in the line up. Again when I put two and two together the trade seems pretty obvious to me
In what world...
I'm sort of weary about some of those Arizona prospects. The environment they play in in the minors (PCL, Texas League, Cal League) can really distort the numbers of those guy. I thought I read at BTF that the average hitter playing in the conditions that the Arizona prospects play in is a .300 hitter.
Before he got traded to Arizona
I mean the Mets
From the blogs Favoriite site
Much of the talk surrounding Yusmeiro Petit is about his flaws. He's not very tall and could stand to work out more, doesn't throw particularly hard and lives on the edge as an extreme fly-ball pitcher. While all of that may indeed keep him from becoming a true ace, his performance has been consistently extraordinary. In 346 career innings Petit has a 2.76 ERA with a 429-to-75 strikeout-to-walk ratio and has allowed just 250 hits. Last season at Double-A he went 9-3 with a 2.91 ERA and 130-to-18 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 117.2 innings, holding opponents to a .209 batting average. And unlike some iffy prospects who pad their stats against less experienced competition, Petit doesn't turn 22 years old until November.
Petit succeeds because he has an expansive repertoire of pitches that he can throw for strikes, has a good approach to pitching, and hides the ball very well with his delivery. Those things aren't going to go away just because he's facing better competition, and while a few of the long fly-ball outs he gets now will turn into homers in the majors, I'm confident he can become a solid second starter. Typically when a prospect becomes a "stathead favorite" he is a little too old or is lacking in something significant like defensive ability. Petit is lacking only in fastball velocity, but he's far from a soft-tosser, is only 21 years old, and ... well, his stats are really good.
Petit
He has had a decent season this year, especially in the environment he's throwing in, but he's still not striking out anybody and his K/BB ratio isn't even two. He's a decent prospect, especially because of how young he is, but he's nowhere near a "future number one starter".
He's definitely not a #1 or 2 now
Gavin Floyd was once thought to be a number #1 or #2 starter and look what happened.
FWIW
by hitlesswonder on Jul 17, 2007 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
Owings
I hope the trade does not involves one of our established major league starter for a player who is questionable offensively. If it does then I will have to question Kenny Williams mental capacity.
If you think we can get more for...
Granted, Jackson is having a down year (.761 OPS) but he put up an .809 OPS in his first full season last year. He is still young and has room to improve, based on his .953 OPS in the minors. He has exactly what our team needs -- a high OBP and youth.
You have to factor in Contreras' old ass age, declining stuff, contract, and crappy numbers this season before expecting a large return for him in a trade.
But we will see if you are correct when you say that we "can get can much more for Contreras." If you really believe that, I have a feeling that you are going to be very disappointed come July 31st.
Again
As in straight as an arrow
Have you seen Kemp's numbers so far?
The Dodgers aren't giving him up for awful, old, and expensive Contreras.
Contreras for Milledge might be possible though. Although, I don't see how Milledge is any better than Jackson.
no one is asking
Apropos of nothing...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jul 17, 2007 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions

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