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Game 140: White Sox (59-80) @ Tigers (74-65) -- Buehrle vs. Durbin

Mark Buehrle (L, 9-9, 3.47, 27, 27, 181.2, 105, 39, 1.21) vs. Chad Durbin (R, 8-6, 4.76, 33, 17, 119.0, 65, 47, 1.42)  [Throws, W-L, ERA, G, GS, IP, K, BB, WHIP]

Time: 12:05 p.m. CT, TV: WGN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2006 MLB Gameday; 2007 MLB Gameday)

GO SOX!

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Lineups
Good Guys:
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. J Owens, CF          .244    1       11      23
2. J Fields, LF         .238    18      54      1
3. A Pierzynski, C      .264    13      43      0
4. P Konerko, 1B        .262    27      73      0
5. D Erstad, RF         .260    3       28      7
6. S Podsednik, DH      .259    2       10      10
7. J Uribe, SS          .219    15      53      1
8. A Cintron, 2B        .224    1       16      1
9. A Gonzalez, 3B       .209    2       11      1
Bad Guys:
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. C Granderson, CF     .298    19      67      19
2. P Polanco, 2B        .339    8       57      7
3. G Sheffield, DH      .279    24      71      20
4. M Ordonez, RF        .353    26      120     4
5. C Guillen, SS        .300    19      92      11
6. R Raburn, LF         .313    3       20      3
7. M Rabelo, C          .262    0       13      0
8. M Hessman, 1B        .171    2       7       0
9. B Inge, 3B           .237    12      60      8
GO SOX!

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

gross
Outside of Konerko & Fields...that is one awful lineup.

3, 4, 5 of AJ / Konerko & Erstad.  Thats some protection for Konerko.  I also see that Podsednik is the DH...ugh.  Well, it's good to see that Ozzie is a fan of getting Pedro Alvarez.

Go Badgers!

by shaftr on Sep 6, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

What a commentary.
Scott Podsednik, Designated Hitter.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Wait, so...
...Richar has half the Sox's hits yesterday, and he's not in the lineup?

by Sox Machine on Sep 6, 2007 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

gotta get alex his ABs
otherwise he'll lose his power...

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

dees keed, he bunt like sheet
This is Ozzie's way of punishing him for not getting a bunt down last night.  Ozzie is very predictable, if you can lay down a good bunt then you're one of his guys.
"I thought we were just playing bad, but, no, we're horseshit." - Oswaldo Guillen, Sr.

by ChicagoPete on Sep 6, 2007 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pete, you made the cover of SI
Well, A.S. actually was the lead, but all PR is good PR.
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJ's back full time
so that's good (by comparison) but what a sorry excuse for a major league team.  

Slightly off topic - I was at a work function (they call it a Leadership event in the Land of 1MM Dreams) and sat on a shuttle with a Sports and Rec guy with a Braves golf shirt on.  Turns out he used to play baseball at the minor league level.  We talked about the Sox and he assumed correctly that this is one agonizing year for me and all Sox fans.

The bit of perspective he brought (the reason for this meandering of mine) was when he said "You've got basically the same team this year as in 2005, don't you?"  Well, yeah.  "It just goes to show how much luck and timing are involved."

I stuffed his copy of "The Black Swan" up his arse and left the shuttle.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol. You read that?
Guy has some interesting ideas, but damnit if he's not a terrible terrible writer.  
CHOO!! CHOO!!

by colintj on Sep 6, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is Cintron playing?
Richar has had 2 hits in 3 of his last 5 games, he's starting to show some consistency. He had a day off Monday. He's 24 fucking years old. Baseball is not exactly exhausting for a 24 year old.

If you must, Ozzie, let Cintron play 3rd in place of Gonzalez. Oh that's right, he'd need a relay to get it from 3rd to 1st.

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Why let the hot rookie play?
He didn't let BA play consistently when he was hot last year.

by jeeves on Sep 6, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which players keep you interested?
For me:  Richar, Fields, Buehrle
Go Badgers!

by shaftr on Sep 6, 2007 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Javy, Jenks, Contreras (for the hell of it/trade),
Paulie, Dye, and Thomer because they are commensurate professionals.  AJ because you never know..

Otherwise, aim high and shoot low.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at the heart of this lineup.
  1. A Pierzynski, C    .264    13    43    0
  2. P Konerko, 1B    .262    27    73    0
  3. D Erstad, RF     .260    3    28    7
.264, .262, .260.

Laugh, cry or what?

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

mostly cry
with a few giggles
Steve Stone for President

by Gus on Sep 6, 2007 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's fast.
But not quite fast enough.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

why was hawk mad about computers?
all I heard was something about on/off switches

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone watch Polanco hit.
He chokes up 25% of the bat. He's batting .335. Why can't our scrubs (where do I start) Owens, Erstad, Cintron, Gonzalez, etc., etc., etc. learn this approach?
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

2, 3, 5, 10 extra hits a year. Maybe.
Oh, so what. They're not HOMERS. 1 RUN HOMERS. That's what we like
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you must have someone who chokes up
you'll love Eckstein.
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe polanco
should just, i don't know, get a shorter bat. that's what normal players do.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not quite...
the same thing.  The balance is different if you choke up, as the weight of the bat is distributed differently than if you hold it at the knob.  

It seems to work well for Polanco.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah
i was kidding.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

For my next joke that has to be explained...
I think we have a bunch of Germans on this site.

I vill be here all of ze veek.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was actually surprised...
that Jerry Owens came up from the minors with such a long, looping swing, flying open as he does.  He doesn't generate any power at all with it, and it just prevents him from making consistent contact.

I maintain that, by the time a player makes it to the majors, it's usually too late to change their hitting style, but I would have thought that somewhere along the line in the minors someone would have worked hard with Owens to generate a quicker, more compact swing.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last chance to score. NADA.
Enjoy it Mark.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you see where the left fielder was playing?
About 50 feet behind the SS. WAFJ.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh God...
I just realized there was a day game today.

The horror...the horror.

Hey...the best-hitting guy in the line-up is A.J. with a whopping .267 average. Go team!

"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

That's AFTER a 2-2 day.
What pitchers DON'T want to face us?
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Sox are on the cutting edge of
September call-ups, by bringing in their most mediocre minor league pitchers and lulling the competition into thinking they can beat us in 2008.

Hah! Take that!

"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or "Go Fish"
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That, my friends
is how you quickly erase a leadoff error.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 6, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm 'watching' on Gameday...
did Konerko slam his bat down when he hit into that DP?  Because it's nice to know that he cares.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG
Pods is DHING!!!

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Sep 6, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Shows what you know. He doubled in 1st AB!
Then he got thrown out trying to steal 3rd.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since this game is such a barn burner...
I offer a White Sox HAIKU I call "Defeat."

Autumn upon us
Bat swings fall upon deaf ears
Drink beer to ease pain

"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

You are the William S. Burroughs
of your generation, 'gater.

Or Kahil Ghibran.  Take your pick.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He might've heard of Burroghs
But Gibran?  You may as well have said Rod McKuen.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Sep 6, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

His name was Khalil, not Kahil
But what do I know?
"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously more than me
Take that, Chi!
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Google is a wonderful thing...
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Sep 6, 2007 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's nice of Buehrle...
to give up that one run and save his teammates the aggravation of extra innings.  Now we know why Danny Richar got benched today - the team just wants to get out of here.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Look, our pitchers still suck
because you'll never lose if you don't give up any runs!  Yesterday, 2 runs.  Today, one.  I rest my case.

The ball sits squarely in their court.  Whether or not they choose to accept their challenge, nay, their JOB, is not for me to say.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.
If the pitchers had just done their jobs and never allowed any runs, the team wouldn't be in this mess.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Without a homer,
I'm pretty sure this lineup could play forever and not score.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Non HR runs
Anyone know what the ML record is for most innings without a non-HR run scored?

This sounds like a job for The Cheat...

"It's not what you achieve, it's what you overcome. That's what defines your career." - Carlton Fisk

by madopal on Sep 6, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whee!
Guillen shakes things up with the sac. bunt.

After Fields strikes out and Pierzynski grounds weakly to second, we'll be back for the bottom of the eighth.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay...
I was one off.

Now Konerko will pop out, and the fans will be treated to him angrily slamming the bat down.  I love it when he does that.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bukvich in...
apparently Guillen really doesn't want to win today's game.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

might as well see
if bukvich can correct his shitty mechanics from the night before. coop had a stern talking to with him about it.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The phrase...
"you can't polish a turd" springs to mind w/r/t Bukvich.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup
but why would we send out guys we already know will be on the team next year? sort of pointless.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not stern enough.
Gotta have Mike North handle those "talking tos."
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't bobby pitch 2 innings?
it's not like he's getting many save opportunities these days.  

by longdrive on Sep 6, 2007 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Bukvich
last 14 pitches, 3 strikes.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, by the way,
3 batters, 3 walks.
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing...
the Tigers brought in the lefty to face the unstoppable force that is DH Scott Podsednik.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya know...
if Uribe really breaks out, he could get that .220 average up to .230 by season's end. So, there's hope.
"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

he can serve
as exhibit A for how relief pitchers are very fungible and their performance fluctuates from year to year.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not comfortable with the word
"fungible".  It's not a real word.   Like "gesture". "Gesture"'s a real word.  With "gesture" you know where you stand.  But "fungible"?  I don't know.  Maybe I'm wrong.
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

TIMO!
"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Timo=Sox killer
I leave the site for 1/2 hour and we are ahead, playing small ball, pinch running/hitting, and defensive replacements.  THIS IS OUR WORLD SERIES!
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Richar and Cintron
suggest we draft middle infielders with our first two picks next season.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 6, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Wasn't the throng calling for Danny Boy
to start today?  Perhaps at DH.
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pinch runner for Timo?
Has he lost a step? Injured?
"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

maybin
this keed. he real fast.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha ha ha
Cue circus music.
"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

they're leaving it late, folks
but this team has just enough quit in it to get the job done.
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

What are they going out to tell Jenks?
Granderson comes into the game 0-8 with 7 K's against Jenks.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 6, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep it up, kid!
Just let Bobby be Bobby.  And Curtis be Curtis.
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's a guess
"he's 0-8 with 7 Ks against you. you got him out with a mix of x and y"
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

HBP...great
Here comes a hit to win it for the Tigers.
"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

YES!
Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

Although the Tigers should be depressed that the game was this close, not celebrating that they won.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 6, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

the pedro alvarez express rolls on!
Seats still available on the Pedro Alvarez Express. Hop on!

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice new sig line...
Too true.
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Sep 6, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whew!
No extra innings...thank God.

Cue circus music (again).

Thanks Bobby!

"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Richar and Cintron
deserve most of the credit...

Polanco's seeing eye single -- does he hit any other kind? -- was the hardest hit ball of the inning, and the first to leave the infield.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 6, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

A clutch performance
I was worried for a while, but what a finish!

by asinwreck on Sep 6, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember last year when Jenks
ripped our hearts out for 2-3 weeks in a row by ralphing up a few key games?  Well, we can root for a return engagement this year, except we can cheer!

I now know what it feels like to inhabit the hell that is a Chicago Cubs fan.  Through the looking glass!  Up is down!

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Sox play .500 the rest of the year,
they'll lose 91 games
You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

71-91
That early season projection of the Sox winning 72 games was SO far off.
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

PRE-Season
I think it was late March when that computer thingy predicted 72-90.
Too lazy to confirm that, but some things I still remember...
It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Sep 6, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, I include pre-season
in the season.  Post-season, too.  Anything that includes "season".
Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sox streak officially over
Today was loss #81 of the 2007 season.  The Sox had five consecutive winning records until this season.  They were a .500 team in 2002, and it has been eight years since they finished with a losing record (75-86 in 1999).

I figure 17 more losses should get us the #1 pick.  Seems realistic.

by asinwreck on Sep 6, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

We're trying
to pass the Devil Rays but may be hurt by the Marlins. The Marlins have crept up on us because we are not paying attention to the battle for top draft.

by Florida Jim on Sep 6, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

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