"Chalk it up as a bad year."

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 3:07 PM CDT in Quotes

Jermaine Dye believes a little too deep of analysis might be in play for what really has just been a miserable season for the White Sox:

"Chalk it up as a bad year. A lot of things went wrong as far as injuries. With us winning the World Series two years ago and having a year like we did this year, it makes it bigger than it really is. It's a learning process for everyone, and if we feel like we are getting into a rut, we have to find a way to climb out faster than this year."

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In other news,

Ozzie said Andy Gonzalez will get upcoming back-to-back starts at shortstop before the season ends.
Next week's rotation, according to Coop: Floyd on Monday, Danks on Tuesday and Javy on Wednesday. Buehrle will be skipped in order to keep his innings down. Coop is aboard the Pedro Alvarez express too.
The new Sox ad-agency: Chicago-based Energy BBDO.
Erstad to Detroit next year? The missing piece.
Kenny to deal Masset, Aardsma, or Sisco?
Winter Ball: OF Ryan Swenney is going to the AFL (Phoenix Desert Dogs), while CF Brian Anderson and LHP Andrew Sisco will play for Águilas de Mexicali (Baja California) of the Mexican Pacific League.

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wow

the tigers really are like us, just one year behind. eerie...

All that matters is the L.

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions

Jermaine

is taking "cannabis therapy" treatment for his leg injury.

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions

Interlude!

Creed: That's Northern Lights, cannabis indica.

Dwight: (exasperated) No. That's marijuana.

CHOO!! CHOO!!

by colintj on Sep 6, 2007 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Also from now on

Jermaine will now be included with PK when Williams solicits player opinions on the capabilities of the roster.

"No, Kenny, we don't need any additions or subtractions. We can win with THIS team."

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Owens' goal was a 1:1 BB/K ratio

He has 21 BB's, FORTY EIGHT K's.

I think he's slightly below plan.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 6, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

Dye's comments

Gee, I had a bad year and got fired my family should chalk it off as a bad year. I told them I would bounce back next year they said next rut you are history. I say the same thing to the $10,000,000 man next rut you are out of here.

by Florida Jim on Sep 6, 2007 3:51 PM CDT reply actions

Quick question:

What happens if we tie for worst record?
I hope, after this POS season, it doesn't come down to a coin toss.

It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Sep 6, 2007 4:00 PM CDT reply actions

If it did - I bet we could lose that too

Last place - Save me from going to these games .

by Brush Back on Sep 6, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Keep Erstad on the payroll,

but make him play for Detroit.

Reminds me of a story re. Bob Pulford. Tfter his retirement as a player walked into the Maple Leafs front office. He said "You know I bleed Maple Leaf blue. I'll do ANYTHING to help the Leafs." The Toronto brass thought about it for a few days and told him "you can help the Maple Leafs THE MOST by being the General Manager..................... of the Chicago Blackhawks."

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions

Valuable perspective

I have seen much heartbreak in my years of fandom, but even at the worst of times I am consoled by the fact that the Wirtz family does not own the Sox.

by asinwreck on Sep 6, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Rut?

How about "Black Hole," and that's being nice.

Enjoy the golf course in October, JD.

"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 4:10 PM CDT reply actions

is this the same Andy

That Ozzie said would be playing SS about a month and a half ago. Or do we have a new Andy - I ask because the other must not have been any good since he was never played there.

Last place - Save me from going to these games .

by Brush Back on Sep 6, 2007 5:49 PM CDT reply actions

Winter Ball

Winter Ball: OF Ryan Swenney is going to the AFL (Phoenix Desert Dogs), while CF Brian Anderson and LHP Andrew Sisco will play for Mexicali of the Mexican Pacific League.

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 6:45 PM CDT reply actions

Poor BA

hope he gets traded anywhere and can have a good career.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 6, 2007 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Ditto that...

tho I wish they had a team in Cancun. I can see him with the honeys at Senor Frog's every night.
And I bet he wouldn't be drinking water...

It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Sep 6, 2007 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Poor BA?

Why should we feel sorry for him, again? Instead of him being traded, I'm hoping he learns how to play baseball and remains healthy. Whether that means playing in Mexico or Baghdad.

by TheKMan1 on Sep 7, 2007 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions

You mean he should learn to be faster?

Because that is the only place that he isnt better than Jerry Owens. BA has also shown that he can do very well in the Bigs unlike Jesse. Lets face it Brian wont be playing for the Sox unless Ozzie is gone. We just have to pray to God that we can get a capable CF in the off season, if Jesse starts in Center next year Im hanging myself.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 7, 2007 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions

Off the ledge, OG

PS Are you BA's brother? You have a serious case of puppy love for BA. I mean, he's got great hair, but so does Jessica Alba, and I wouldn't want to see her in CF.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 7, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah I know, lol

I just think that if the Sox were willing to gamble with him they should have stuck by their decision. Trading away the Legend and Chris Young and not willing to at least give Brian a chance after a bad rookie season is 7 different kinds of retarded.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 7, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions

And there was proof that could have figured it out

his two great months last year and his good numbers in spring training should have merited at least a month to show he could do it this year. But of course Ozzie wasnt going to allow that.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 7, 2007 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

I'll take Alba over Owens

by southsider80 on Sep 7, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Same here

at least she give us something to look at. And Jesse throws like a girl anyway so no difference there.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 7, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

What's the difference

between AFL and the Mexican Pacific League in terms of level or strength?

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions

AFL is better

All that matters is the L.

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions

HMMmmm

Mexico is considered AAA, but it's really less than that. More like 2.5A... It's got lots of hangers on (think Jose Lima) and losers... For some reason, I often hear it referred to as a breaking ball league. I guess there aren't a lot of hard throwers. The only current major leaguer I can think of who player there last season was Joakim Soria. I suppose if it's a breaking ball league, it's a good place for Anderson to be.

The AFL is like a who's who of prospects. Well, not quite, but it's generally loaded with up and comers. Last years graduates (players who've established themselves at the majors) include Yunel Escobar, Tulowitski, and Ryan Braun. It's considered a hitters league because teams often hold back their top pitching prospects while sending some of their best hitters, plus it's in Arizona. There are still a ton of pitching prospects though... here are some names you should recognize from last season Dustin McGowan, troy Patton, Humber and Pelfrey, Kevin slowey, Jeff Niemann, Jordan Tata and Virgil Vazquez, Luke Hochevar... I could continue..

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 6, 2007 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions

jonny gomes was there last year

but, yeah, it's a pretty poor league. mexican players sometimes play there. but, to give you an idea, i think fernando valenzuela was pitching in it when he was 45.

All that matters is the L.

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions

And?!?!?!

Problem with the Tijuana...guy?

by southsider80 on Sep 6, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions

i'm confused

All that matters is the L.

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Aren't we all?

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 6, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions

"hangers on and losers"

Perfect for BA.

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Hes hanging on all right

despite Ozzies attempt to knock him off.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 6, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions

larry was right

"The Águilas de Mexicali (Mexicali Eagles) is a Mexican baseball team playing for the Liga Mexicana del Pacífico (Mexican Pacific League) in Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico"

baja!

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 6:59 PM CDT reply actions

he's a california boy

he'll enjoy baja california.

All that matters is the L.

by larry on Sep 6, 2007 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Mexicali?

That's a god forsaken place in the middle of the Sonoran desert, WTF is he doing there -hunting scorpions? Makes Venezuela look like the south of France in comparison.

"I thought we were just playing bad, but, no, we're horseshit." - Oswaldo Guillen, Sr.

by ChicagoPete on Sep 6, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Who picked this place for BA, Ozzie or KW?

I wasn't kidding about the desert, this is from wiki:

Mexicali is well known for its extreme weather. In order to avoid floods from the Colorado River, the city was built in the middle of the desert. The highest temperature recorded in Mexicali was 52°C (about 125°F) in July 1995. Average July highs hover around 42°C (107°F). On the other hand, winter normals are quite low, with average January lows of 5°C (41°F) and a record low of -8°C (18°F) recorded in January 1949. The city was covered in snow only once, on December 1932. Being used to this weather is a source of pride for some Mexicali residents. It is well known as a shithole in the middle of the ratlands, a place of exile for cocky CF prospects who strut to the plate like assholes.

A regular Garden of Eden this Mexicali.

"I thought we were just playing bad, but, no, we're horseshit." - Oswaldo Guillen, Sr.

by ChicagoPete on Sep 6, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions

sounds like tuco's kind of town...

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions

If you save your breath Blondie,

I feel a man like you can manage it.

"I thought we were just playing bad, but, no, we're horseshit." - Oswaldo Guillen, Sr.

by ChicagoPete on Sep 6, 2007 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions

More obscure than even I can manage

Thank the Lord for Google, otherwise I'd be asking "Que?".

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 7, 2007 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Come on old man

Even I(a 20yr old) can figure out a Clint Eastwood movie quote right away. The "man with no name" trilogy was great.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 7, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, but I haven't watched them

20 times each, like Animal House/Reservoir Dogs/Patton/etc. I congratulate you on your grasp of useless trivia. I've been proud of my "Slouching toward Gomorrah" and you should be, too.

Your '08 White Sox management: A bunch of jag bags

by winningugly on Sep 7, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I am the master of useless trivia

Im surprised I have anything other than tv/movie knowledge in my brain. Animal House and Reservoir Dogs are both great, Ive only seen 5 minutes of Patton though.

Jumping on the Pedro Alvarez Express!!

by omnipotent grab on Sep 7, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Ozzie speaks (from todays Trib game recap)

"If we're going to put a team out there and we know we're not going to win, we're better off telling the fans," Guillen said. "I will say it, and I might get in trouble. ... I'm not going to be the same position now I was in the summer. I'm not going to put myself in the position to lie to the fans."

There you have it. They'll tell us BEFORE THE START of next season if we'll be competitive or not.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-070906soxgamer,1,1329049.story

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions

State of the interest.

A ticket broker from Vegas just emailed me offering 50+ good upper deck seats (between 1st and 3rd, Rows 7, 8, 9) for each game of the Indians series, this coming Mon - Wed.

Price $2 each.

Are you reading this, Jerry, Kenny or Brooks?

You reap what you sow.

by ballyb on Sep 6, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions

Please - don't remind me

Can't even get half price for the extra tickets I have

Last place - Save me from going to these games .

by Brush Back on Sep 6, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

baltimore and pittsburgh lost too

pedro alvarez sweepstakes

Tampa Bay       58      82      .414
Chicago         59      81      .421
Florida         60      80      .429
Baltimore       60      79      .432
Pittsburgh      61      79      .436

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 9:59 PM CDT reply actions

wow

That's one helluva contest, looks like AL 1967. Let's make sure we keep Jesse, Cintron & AGonz out there every day, we need our best horses for this race.

"I thought we were just playing bad, but, no, we're horseshit." - Oswaldo Guillen, Sr.

by ChicagoPete on Sep 6, 2007 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions

AFL rosters packed

AFL rosters packed with talent again in '07
Maybin, McCutchen, Savery, Scherzer, Longoria among many top prospects

by The Wizard on Sep 6, 2007 10:20 PM CDT reply actions

BA in Mexico

Doesn't he get "tengo chorro" when he heads south of the border? How can he romance the "Baseball Marias" when he's cramped up and running to the can every 5 minutes?

Muy mal!

"I give Ozzie an 'A'... This team has never packed it in and I give Ozzie the credit." - Jerry Reinsdorf

by tailgater on Sep 6, 2007 11:23 PM CDT reply actions

Looks like babblefish failed you, tailgater!

I believe you meant to quote BA as "tengo churra", as in I have diahrrea, as opposed to "tengo chorro", which means, literally, I have a flow of water. Tengo chorro would only be used when a female is describing a heavy menstrual discharge.

In summary, tailgater, from the context of your sentence, I believe you would like to have written:

"Doesn't he get 'churra' when he heads south of the...romance the "Beisbol Marias" when..."

Enough of this Spanish lesson, next time I'm charging ;)

GO SOX!

by rhythm on Sep 8, 2007 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions