Spring Training Game #4: White Sox @ D'backs -- Gavin Floyd vs. Dan Haren

by The Wizard on Mar 1, 2008 1:53 PM CST in Game Threads

Time: 2:05 p.m. CT, Radio: MLB.radio (Live Boxscore; MLB Gameday)

Sox: Owens, CF; Ozuna, 2B; Swisher, 1B; Konerko, DH; Dye, RF; Crede, 3B; Ramirez, SS; Anderson, LF; Lucy, C

D'backs: Bonifacio, LF; Burke, 3B; Drew, SS; Snyder, C; Nixon, DH; Upton, RF; Salazar, CF; Hammock, 1B; Ojeda, 2B

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Top 1st

3 hits
3 Ks

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions

Top 2nd

Alexei almost takes off Haren's head, then gets picked off 2nd when Lucy misses a bunt on a fastball down the middle

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions

This Ramirez kid (?)

just might be something. And wait until he gets a full month's worth of regular meals.

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by winningugly on Mar 1, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions

Floyd

Not sharp today. Working behind in the count to almost all batters. Sounds like he was working on alternating his spot to the opposite side of the plate with each pitch.

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions

Crede is healthy

Hits what by the announcers reactions seems to be a mammoth shot out of the park 2-2

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions

Sherzer is a horse too.

That's not your typical AA pitcher up there, just 3 HR given up in his MiLB career (100 innings)

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by The Cheat on Mar 1, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions

Logan giving up some runs

thats not the AZBoone we know about.

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by shaftr on Mar 1, 2008 4:32 PM CST reply actions

1.2 innings for wasserman

stretching him out...

by larry on Mar 1, 2008 4:44 PM CST reply actions

He actually

gave up a HR.

by palehose67 on Mar 1, 2008 5:25 PM CST up reply actions

trade Konerko to the Mets

If Delgado is down for significant time, any chance Konerko goes to the Mets for prospects, Fields moves to first and we keep Crede.

This would improve the defense and make the middle of the line-up less pathetically slow. The Mets would probably overspend for Konerko because they are a New York team. I just don't like the idea of trading Crede when he has practically no value.

by rhombusface on Mar 1, 2008 5:22 PM CST reply actions

Move Dye to 1st,

Fields to left.

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Mar 1, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions

Trading Konerko to keep Crede in the lineup...

is still the dumbest idea that I have seen suggested at all three White Sox message boards -- SSS, SoxTalk, and WSI.

by SSH2005 on Mar 1, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions

The Crede fanclub

Will try any trade theory to keep their boy on the team. I cannot wait till they get desperate enough to try and move Jenks and to have the superfielding god of the bat who also be our closer. The best of all world. His electric Crede arm will strikeout all hitter, and those put into play can be gobbled up by his super range.

by southsideirish71 on Mar 1, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions

what magical Crede fanclub are you

referring to? as far as i can tell (and i only frequent SSS and Sox Machine), there is none.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 1, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions

That wasn't suggested.

But I mean sure, go ahead and, like, say things. Or whatever.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 1, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions

I would call that statement hyperbole

Not dumb at all. In my opinion the reason we sucked in '07 was our aging, plodding, homerun-or-nothing middle of the line-up. I'd like to see it broken up.

Tell me how it makes sense to give Crede away for next to nothing? It doesn't strike me as a Williams move.

by rhombusface on Mar 2, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions

Um

Konerko's a .350/.500 player, numbers Joe Crede couldn't touch in his best season. And he's not going to fix the plodding problem, he'll just increase the OBP problem.

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by The Cheat on Mar 2, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions

the Mets farm is significantly depleted

they've got Martinez and...not much else.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 1, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions

And they've got basically no

position player talent, outside of a few very recent Latino signings.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 1, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions

What world

are you living in? If anything we let Swisher move to the more favorable position for him at 1B. Crede: HE GONE

by oldComiskey91 on Mar 2, 2008 12:01 AM CST up reply actions

I know of the ZERO correlation

between spring training performance, but:

Last year there was about 99.999993% correlation for the Sox (granted unscientifically).
I like that they're 3 - 1 against the same teams that BEAT THEIR BRAINS IN during ST last year. All of ST last year they were 10 - 22.
Individually, they're playing much better. As a team they are batting .390, OBP .464. Not sure last year, but it was UGLY.

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Mar 1, 2008 5:47 PM CST reply actions

It wasn't ugly

The White Sox batted .296/.360/.454 last spring, so, their hot start in 2008 is nice to see but it's not a strong indicator like you mentioned. The Red Sox didn't even crack a .700 team OPS last spring

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions

The pitching was horrible

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by Tdogg on Mar 1, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

Oh yeah

Worst team pitching overall. But bally implied the team batting was ugly too.

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions

Grapefruit vs. Cactus

As I recall (without actually) looking it up, all but one Grapefruit league team would have ranked at the top of the Cactus league in ERA/pitching marks. While all but one Cactus league team (the White Sox?) outpaced the grapefruit league team batting leaders.

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by The Cheat on Mar 1, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

Not quite true, but the disparity is obvious

Three Grapefruit teams had a higher team OPS than the lowest Cactus team OPS. The Sox had the 8th highest team OPS in either league.

by 3E8 on Mar 1, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions

crede scouted on today's game

[MG]:

The Joe Crede watch officially started Saturday.

The San Francisco Giants had Ted Uhlaender, one of their top evaluators, in attendance to watch the White Sox's third baseman launch a home run off Arizona's Max Scherzer in the fourth inning of a 12-8 win.

Uhlaender was one of nearly a dozen scouts who watched Crede, and the Giants could use a seasoned third baseman like Crede.

by The Wizard on Mar 1, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions