Spring Training Game #8: White Sox vs. Angels -- Jose Contreras vs. Ervin Santana

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 1:27 PM CST in Game Threads Comment 135 comments

Time: 2:05 p.m. CT, Radio: MLB.radio (Live Boxscore; MLB Gameday)

Sox: Owens, CF; Cabrera, SS; Thome, DH; Konerko, 1B; Swisher, LF; Pierzynski, C; Crede, 3B; Uribe, 2B; Anderson, RF

Angels: Willits, CF; Aybar, E, SS; Kotchman, 1B; Kendrick, 2B; Rivera, RF; Morales, DH; Napoli, C; Wood, 3B; Haynes, LF

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Steve Stone has joined the White Sox as the team's full-time radio color analyst, joining play-by-play man Ed Farmer in the booth, as announced by the White Sox and flagship station WSCR Radio (670 AM) on Tuesday. The deal was hammered out Monday night, with Stone fulfilling Chris Singleton's one-year deal for 2008. Singleton came to the team and requested out of his contract on Friday, when a television opportunity came his way. A source close to the situation told MLB.com that Singleton will be joining ESPN's "Baseball Tonight." ... The first broadcast for the new Farmer-Stone team will be Friday's Spring Training game against Arizona at Tucson Electric Park.

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Awesome

Steve Stone is as good as they come. This is great news.

by SalParadise on Mar 4, 2008 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's a shame Rooney isn't still with us

Rooney and Stoney would be amazing. Damn you cheap ass 670.

by griz on Mar 4, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

seems the MLB.radio feed of today's game is open

I don't know if it will stay open for the game (link on the 1st line of the gamethread post)

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 1:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

''and we're live from tucson''

who's at the mike?

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

angels broadcasting guys

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

so far, so good

they seem ok

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Singleton on Baseball Tonight

I thought ESPN only liked unknown former players if they were particularly smooth broadcasters or opinionated loudmouths. Since Singleton is neither, what in the world do they want with him? Just someone that won't sexually harass his coworkers?

by Ryno on Mar 4, 2008 1:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

it doesn't say in what capacity

maybe he'll be filing 3 reports a year from chicago...

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh sweet Arsenal - AC Milan

Not really sure if this is legit HD or just a non-FSN feed. Also, I kinda want to spring for a long sleeve away top.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 4, 2008 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bleh

this is as bad as I've seen Adebayor play with the ball at his feet. Still making good use of his size though. And another poor pass, crikey.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 4, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

they may want to consider scoring

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

cesc finally came around on the idea

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 4, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, great shot by Cesc

This one is over, unfortunately

-Jeeves Life in the Cell

by jeeves on Mar 4, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ah yes. the invaluable away goal

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

didn't think the arsenal had it in them

well done.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm surprised too

but they really played very well. Great game to watch.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 4, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Konerko

Angels broadcast team confirm that rumors of Konerko to LA were all false.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

3 month ago rumor, confirmed false.

Check.

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I know but it has still

floated from time to time as recently as last month.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

AJ ground rule double

With bases loaded.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

AJ loves anaheim!

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I heard the Angels are interested

in AJ instead of Konerko.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What is the deal with Crede?

That is the third ball he has airmailed.

by Tony82087 on Mar 4, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Throwing accurately is hard to

do when you haven't done it in a while.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 4, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

K

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

HR...

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BA with a single

Bring Back BA

by marco054 on Mar 4, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Gameday has Uribe with the single

and BA with a K.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 4, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Its wrong

BA singled. And was thrown out stealing on a Owens K.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Gameday

says Uribe single

then

BA a K and Uribe caught stealing.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It just updated

and it was way off.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 4, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No it doesn't.

Uribe with a ground out, BA with a single and caught stealing on an Owens K.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It changed.

Honest. Respect your elders.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Is it set to "pitch by pitch"?

Play by play showed Uribe with "in play no outs recorded", but p-b-p had it right.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Steve Stone

Sounds like he's full time radio now, I'm guessing that means he's not going to be doing that weekend subbing for DJ on TV anymore. Pretty harsh for us TV viewers.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

One step at a time

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 4, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

at the end of DJ's contract, the sox plan to replace him with a stone clone. the technology should be up to snuff by then. and, even if it isn't, it's not hard to replace DJ.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You can say that again...

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was trying to figure out

why the Trib article said Farmer and Singleton would team to call 150 games... What about the other 12?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 4, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not on the radio?

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

bah

Farmer and stone... I knew what I was saying, but my fingers didn't cooperate.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 4, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

stone in sox tv booth, presumably

still got a contract to do that folks. we'll see what they do about that.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So there still going through with the TV too?

That's cool, so one way or another he's doing 162 games. Who'd a thunk it, Steve Stone as the new voice of the CWS?

Just in time too. Hawk and DJ are bad enough when we're winning, but they were unbearable last year. If we're gonna have bad teams, give us some good announcers at least.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The downside

is he really likes Nick Masset

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 4, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well, that remains to be seen

this looks like it's a pretty sudden move. if i were stone, though, i'd want to make sure i was doing some tv. and the sox should also consider auditioning some other broadcasters in case stone decides one year is all he wants to do. so we'll see how it all gets resolved.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If they're having trouble selling the radio

then I imagine they're not doing so great selling their TV ads either. After last year corporate Chicago probably has probably tuned out the spin, and instead has their beancounters looking at the projections. Those ratings took a huge dump last year.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i dunno

it's early march. advertisers have been reallocating/reducing their dollars and reevaluating their strategies in the face of the present economic downturn. i don't doubt that team performance and ratings are playing into this but there's a bit more than that going on. i'd be holding off on my commitments, too.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's what we suggested before

you got married.
Right WU?

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure larry solicited our

opinions, Chi. I recall he sprang (sprung?) Prague on us but don't recall any telegraph.

Besides, you can't save a man from himself if he is hell-bent on destruction. (I can relate.)

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm a conspiracist

That Swisher trade came out of nowhere, and it really didn't make a lot of sense given the age of the team and their chances of winning in this division. I wouldn't be surprised if KW was forced into doing something drastic by the finance people in the front office because of bad ticket and ad sales.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe

but the sox ain't exactly hurting for cash.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not at the moment

But Sox fans are notoriously fickle. If they're not selling their ad time and attendance takes a big drop, I don't think they can support this kind of payroll. Should make for an interesting trade deadline if they come out of the gates slow this year.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Trades...

Seems like most of the large contracts are not wanted by other teams, or now seem to have some type of NTC

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 4, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's called being stuck

between a rock and a dried plum.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oh, they can certainly support this payroll

and support the contracts they're on the hook for. the question is more whether they'd be able to support increased spending above their present payroll and, if so, by how much.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be interested to know

what's the minimum attendance needed to support the current payroll. I know they have fixed revenues from mlb and skybox contracts etal, but they've got to have at least 2,000,000 tickets sold to breakeven don't they? They can't be completely insulated from what happens at the turnstiles.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

lower than 2 million

probably 1.5-1.7m. the calculus has changed some with the increased revenue from mlb stuff and online. attendance has become more like gravy (it always was after a certain point, but that point is lower now) than a necessity. and that certain point is getting pretty close to a slam dunk point even for the teams with low attendance.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, if that's the case

then I'm right back to square one and completely befuddled by all these maneuvers. If they can breakeven at 1.5mm what's the point of shipping out every single prospect in our minor leagues this winter? If there were a mandate to get competitive NOW to salvage 2008 financial issues, then it makes sense. But if that's not the motivation...

Unless...KW was so disenchanted with the state of our minor league player development that he decided to clean out the stables and start over from scratch. Seeing how ill-prepared our minor leaguers are for mlb, that would explain a lot of things.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you need to keep in mind

what the ownership group cares about. they aren't particularly concerned about making a large profit. they are concerned about incurring a large loss. they are also extremely reticent to take on debt and don't do that. they also like to watch competitive teams. i'd imagine, if anything, the latter is what primarily animated teh sox this offseason.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If that's the main motivation

why didn't they just buck up and pay whatever it took to sign Hunter or Rowand? Then they could've gotten more competitive without blowing out their minor leagues. If they're worried about being competitive, then they should really be worried about the next few years.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i didn't say that was their main motivation

i said that's what primarily motivated this offseason's moves. they would still be acting with consideration to the prior interests. saddling the team with aaron rowand's contract probably was a bad idea for the longer-term health of the balance sheets.

and, yes, i think they should be worried, too. but remember that a lot of these guys are 75+. ;)

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

to clarify

their main motivation is not "compete." it's "compete while also adhering to fiscal sanity, as they define it." this isn't george steinbrenner we're talking about. that's my point.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Burdensome contracts

So they're worried about a Rowand deal, but they sign Linebrink to a 4yr with a NTC, extend JD with a NTC, extend MB with a NTC, extend AJ, see PK get vested with a NTC.

I see your point, but the front office logic escapes me. These are the kinds of financial decisions my 75yr old father makes, I've got to watch him like a hawk too.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well

none of those contracts is particularly burdensome in a fiscal sense. like i said, they can pay for what they are committed to. more, or how much more, who knows. if you're talking about fielding a competitive team in 2010, i understand your point. but lots of those contracts are gone by then, too. the sox don't sign many real long-term deals. who is under contract for more than 3 years, MB and linebrink? and for a comparative pittiance? these guys aren't dumb businessmen. may not be the best baseball businessmen, in terms of maximizing both revenue and wins, but they don't lose money. not by a long shot.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

forgot ramirez

so add a real pittance on top of that comparative pittance.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Time will tell

Before they won the WS they were always quick to toss their cards when it looked like they had a bad hand, being patient about seeing the next deal. Now they're holding onto bad cards and hoping for a miracle on the flop. They've gotten very sentimental since winning the WS. They're missing that grind, that edge.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

they're old

doesn't your dad like to talk about the past and enjoys seeing people from his past?

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

how to get it back...

what would it take to pry a real ballplayer like darin erstad from the astros?

"They say that blood is thicker than water. What we have is thicker than blood."

by Toonderstrook on Mar 4, 2008 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Or Pods from the Rangers?

Or El Duque from the Mets? I think he was the pitching embodiment of "grinding". And I say that with all the respect in the world.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

timo?

hello? veteran presence?

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Always with the trump card, larry

Game over. Can't do better than Timo. I see his big #7 every time I turn on my computer when I get home as our guys frolic on the Enron Park mound.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We need Erstad,

we will embrace him. I'd love to have him on the team just so we can use him as a punching bag again when things go down the shitter. There's too many nice guys on this roster.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll say you are

You must believe that the front office can pull a trade out of their respective hineys at a moment's notice. The trade seems fairly even (after the initial sturm and drang most opinions were fairly even), so they certainly didn't get fleeced. A "forced" trade usually has a pretty clear winner and loser, don't you agree?

Plus, the one of the initial risks was that they'd pissed off the fandom by castrating the farm (animals) - I do believe many folks were initially PO'ed and talking about cashing in tickets. Is Swish a draw, to the extent he now is the difference in whether or not you buy a ticket? Maybe later, after he assumes the Rowand mantle, but now?

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Checked the sked, all games on WSCR

so forget my question.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 4, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Contreras

A good outing. Sounded like only 1 hard hit ball off him (the HR) and no bbs.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jose. Check.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Owens

I really hope Im right and you guys are wrong when it comes to the time it takes for the Sox to come to their senses on him. I couldnt help but laugh when every swing by the Angel announcers was referred to "slapped" at.

You get the impression the OFers are picking flowers when he's up.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 3:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but do they know he's fast?

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Are the pitch counts for gameday accurate?

If so, the Sox have been throwing alot of strikes the past couple days.

by striker on Mar 4, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

no

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 4, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So what was up with the...

Bunt by Owens and Anderson caught going home - only have sound... did Cox send BA?

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 4, 2008 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

going home? he was "stealing" second

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope it was home.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

wild pitch

Anderson attempted to go home on a wild pitch by Thompson, it sounded like.

Owens may have been stealing second at the time.

by coffeepac on Mar 4, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Foxxy in mid-season form, eh?

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thx

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 4, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Konerko doubles in a run

On fire in ST. Lol.

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 3:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This "bullpen"

looks remarkably similar to last years.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

except this "bullpen"

is slated for AAA, not MLB.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm afraid

that by watching the ending of these games, the problem will rub off on the 7 who come to Chicago.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

watching?

everybody else is on the golf course.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That was before

Owens REALLY worked on his bunting.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oops, not here.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Silver lining -

they're not walking many - only one today.

Just workin' out the kinks, bally. Stay positive. Like on SLV and GLD.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Only one negative about the metals.

I heard that Cramer (CNBC Cramer) said gold was going to $1600.

Kiss of death.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Steve Stone

on MLB radio NOW. Already touting Owens in center and leading off. "They are a better team with Owens........" ;(

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like a HOMER already.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

already?

this guy is a true believer. wasn't on anyone's payroll last year and was all over him. we all have our foibles.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That was before

Owens REALLY worked on his bunting.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Now I get it

Location, location, location. Just like comedy - it's all in the timing.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess he was assigned

Singleton's contract which requires him to drink the Kool-Aid.

by palehose67 on Mar 4, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Really

All I remember about Stone in the booth last year was him having a stroke when Jerry refused to bunt for a hit when he led off an inning 3 times in a close game.

"We're actually doing some different things at the top of the lineup, but our key is Jerry Owens being our center fielder and our leadoff guy" - JD

by ChicagoPete on Mar 4, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

In a terrible summer I remember

we were going gaga over his short stint in the booth, hoping he'd hook on this year.

Fairy tales will come true - it'll happen to you -when you're young at heart.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oh no

that was fast...

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

For those of you keeping tabs,

Jerry Owens has 15 PAs in ST with 2 balls hit out past the infield.

The NEXT 10 lbs. of muscle will do the trick.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

SOX WI. SOX WIN.

On Swisher 2 run double in bottom of 9th.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Swish!

welcome

"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America."

by Tdogg on Mar 4, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

SOX WIN. SOX WIN.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 5:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Legend, Part Deux?

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Mr. Broadway

I wasn't able to catch the game and judging from the boxscore, I can't get a good grasp on how he pitched. 3 ks and the other 3 outs he recorded were groundouts, which is usually a good sign. Did he get hit hard or were they bleeders?

by wildsb4 on Mar 4, 2008 5:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

javy left for puerto rico

[SR]:

Congratulations

To Javier Vazquez and his wife on the birth today of a little girl (name TBD).

Vazquez left camp to join his growing family in Puerto Rico.

"I hope Javy doesn't have the same doctors Uribe had," said Guillen. "When Uribe's wife had a kid, he was gone so long the kid was two years old before he got back."

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ozzie really is a funny guy

OT - My Boilerfakers locked in a tight one with OSU.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 4, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

CHOKE!!!

i cant believe they blew that game.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Mar 5, 2008 7:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As a Boiler for 30+ years

I can.

I wrote this song after I killed a drifter to get an erection.

by winningugly on Mar 5, 2008 8:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

noah lowry hurt

well, one would hope so after that peformance. odd injury, though: tendinitis in his hand between thumb and wrist. supposedly back quickly.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080304&content_id=2404741&vkey=spt2008news&fex t=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Although PECOTA kinda likes him...

I sure as heck don't. Stay the heck away, Kenny!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 4, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Question.

Brian Anderson has 24 ABs so far this spring. This is 70% more than any Sox player I had heard of before spring training, next is Jermaine Dye with 14 ABs. (Eldred & Negron are sandwiched between BA & Dye).

Why so many ABs for young Brian?

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 4, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

showcase

get him while he's hot. no reasonable offer refused.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

larry

any truth to the rumor that you were the defendant's lawyer in this case?

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 8:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

btw, did you work the case pro bono?

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re

Video showing Serena trying to squeeze through a hole in the door as well as other parts of the story can be viewed below: link

by The Wizard on Mar 4, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

is anyone a subscriber to bill james online?

the tour of the site is pretty sparse so i have no idea what i'd be buying. any info?

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I have the book...

Got it from Barnes and Nobles.

Can't say anything bout the site.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 4, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

highly illuminating. thanks.

by larry on Mar 4, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I try :)

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 4, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Random Question... Stat Heads Reply:

Do the balls thrown in an Intentional Walk count towards a hitter's Pitcher per Plate Appearance?

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 4, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Thoughts...

Crede needs to show some more with the bat. And stop committing errors, dammit.
Anderson is once again showing he can play in Arizona. Perhaps we can trade him to the D-Backs for Miguel Montero or Wes Roemer and Max Scherzer. Wishful thinking, maybe.
Konerko is swinging the bat really well. Hopefully he can keep it up all year long, or at least until the AS break, when he can get flipped if the Sox aren't contending.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 4, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Point 3

By then PKs NTC kicks in - Sox would have to get his ok.

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 4, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Check this out before voting re: Jerry Owens OBP

If we want to compete with CLE, DET, BOS, et cetera, JO's got to post at least a .350 OBP (among other miracles)

Did you know a walk to the lead man is 4x more valuable than a walk to the sixth place hitter?

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/story/2006/2/12/133645/296

by Dinger on Mar 4, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

the dreaded leadoff walk

by larry on Mar 5, 2008 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So, the brain trust at ESPN

got a hold of Singleton's broadcast tapes and decided, "Yes! This is the guy! We simply must have him!"

No wonder Chris Berman is still employed.

Boo ya!

Share the passion, show the swagger

by tailgater on Mar 4, 2008 10:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK...

What a fat loser Berman is.

I can't believe Singleton somehow got a promotion but I'm glad he's gone. Man, he sucked...

"And there's a ground ball... Uribe has it... and the runner is out at first base."

by SSH2005 on Mar 5, 2008 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Look for them to take a receiver on the first day, second round would be my guess.

I'll hang up and listen to your answer.

by Hazymania on Mar 5, 2008 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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