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Revisiting Saturday's strike zone for Scott Carroll

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FanGraphs post shows Gary Cederstrom gave the White Sox the worst strike zone of the year, but Adrian Nieto played a part

David Banks

Back before the White Sox bullpen filled up our bad-memory DVRs and forced us to delete previously saved programming, you might remember Scott Carroll getting squeezed against the Twins in the first couple innings of his start on Saturday, and Hawk Harrelson's related complaints.

Harrelson did have reason to gripe, because Gary Cederstrom's zone was indeed awful.

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But as most us know, there is a factor in between Carroll's release point and Cederstrom's call.

I forgot to revisit that idea thanks to the subsequent trauma, but Mike Petriello at FanGraphs filled that gap with a great post highlighting everything that worked against Carroll. He does place blame on Cederstrom, who set the single-game high for percentage of strikes missed this year on Saturday.

But Petriello also provides GIFs highlighting Nieto's noisy mitt...

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... and his occasional drop.

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Read the whole post, because it's worth your time, and it provides a refresher for why Tyler Flowers plays as much as possible despite his midseason offensive cratering, and why Nieto needs development time in the minors next season.

If you're curious, here are the pitch-framing stats for both catchers to date from Baseball Prospectus:

Framing
Chances
Extra
Strikes
Framing
Runs
Framing
Runs/7000
Flowers 19569 180 13.7 4.9
Nieto 1994 -17 -3.4 -11.8